[paimei01]

The Pawnee:

"They were a well-disciplined people, maintaining public order under many trying circumstances. And yet they had none of the power mechanisms that we consider essential to a well-ordered life. No orders were ever issued...Time after time I tried to find a case of orders given and there were none. Gradually I began to realize that democracy is a very personal thing which like charity, begins at home. Basically it means not being coerced and having no need to coerce anyone else. The Pawnee learned this way of living in the earliest beginning of his life. In the detailed events of every day as a child, he began his development as a disciplined and free man or as a women who felt her dignity and her independence to be inviolate"

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"The Creeks are just honest, liberal and hospitable to strangers; considerate, loving and affectionate to their wives and relations; fond of their children; industrious, frugal, temperate and persevering; charitable and forbearing. I have been weeks and months among them and in their towns, and never observed the least sign of contention or wrangling: never saw an instance of and Indian beating his wife, or even reproving her in anger. In this case they stand as examples of reproof to the most civilized nations . . . for indeed their wives merit their esteem and the most gentle treatment, they being industrious, frugal, loving and affectionate . . .Their internal police and family economy. . .incontrovertibly place those people in an illustrious point of view: their liberality, intimacy and friendly intercourse with one another, without any restraint of ceremonious formality; as if they were even insensible of the use of necessity of associating the passions of affections of avarice, ambition or covetousness. . . How are we to account for their excellent policy in civil government; it cannot derive its influence from coercive laws, for they have no such artificial system."

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[medicvet]

Thank you for posting that. I am part Chickasaw and Choctaw Freedman myself.

[DomusAlbion]

Aboriginals could always live in a more free and democratic style. The tribes were small and autonomous, more like a large family. But does that mean we want or could even live as they did? I think not. This is all romantic nonsense.
The remaining native population of the US and Canada is almost non-existent and those that remain live mostly like their European conquerors, even taking European names and adopting their religion. The native people are a curiosity of the past.

BTW: I’m part Blackfoot and my wife is 1/4 Cherokee.

[JJ]

I'm sure this spills over to every culture. My wife is Cebuano and Illocano.

[paimei01]

The tribes were different - but those two quotes are the same for all the tribes in the world. No - we don't need to live in a cave to be in a tribe. See what I'v written in the blog.
From Paplillon :
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '&')quot;Those who haven't been exposed to the hypocrisies of a "civilized" education react to things naturally, as they happen. It is in the here and now that they are either happy or unhappy, joyful or sad, interested or indifferent. The superiority of pure Indians like these Guajiros was striking. They could outdo us in everything: when they adopted someone, everything they had belonged to him; and when anyone showed them the least attention, they were profoundly moved"

"I was getting used to this life and beginning to realize that if I stayed too much longer I might lose all desire to leave."

[JJ]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('paimei01', 'T')he tribes were different - but those two quotes are the same for all the tribes in the world. No - we don't need to live in a cave to be in a tribe. See what I'v written in the blog.
From Paplillon :
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '&')quot;Those who haven't been exposed to the hypocrisies of a "civilized" education react to things naturally, as they happen. It is in the here and now that they are either happy or unhappy, joyful or sad, interested or indifferent. The superiority of pure Indians like these Guajiros was striking. They could outdo us in everything: when they adopted someone, everything they had belonged to him; and when anyone showed them the least attention, they were profoundly moved"

"I was getting used to this life and beginning to realize that if I stayed too much longer I might lose all desire to leave."

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DomusAlbion', 'T')he remaining native population of the US and Canada is almost non-existent and those that remain live mostly like their European conquerors, even taking European names and adopting their religion.