[smallpoxgirl]

Many of you may be aware of Peabody Coal's Black Mesa strip mine and the absolute ecological and cultural devastation that has been wrought in that isolated part of the desert by the mine.

Peabody is currently has applied to the Office of Surface Mining for permission to expand the mine using even more of the precious desert aquifers in a wasteful and capricous way, digging an even bigger, uglier wound in the ground, displacing even more Navaho traditionals off their lands, and pumping even more CO2 into the atmosphere at the Mohave generating station in Nevada.

The public comment period with the Office of Surface Mining for this proposal ends on 2/6/07. More info about the issue can be found here: http://www.stoppeabody.org/

[ClubOfRomeII]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '
')Peabody is currently has applied to the Office of Surface Mining for permission to expand the mine using even more of the precious desert aquifers in a wasteful and capricous way, digging an even bigger, uglier wound in the ground, displacing even more Navaho traditionals off their lands, and pumping even more CO2 into the atmosphere at the Mohave generating station in Nevada.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ClubOfRomeII', ' ')Seems like it makes more sense than going after an honest business just supplying a wanted commodity.

[gampy]

I saw the title of this thread, and thought..."cool, a Half-life video game thread!"

Sorry, I'll leave now.

[50mpgVWTDI]

I guess I am one of your "ignorant" people.

We live in the area and are familiar with Peabody. Well liked by all.

Care to share with me why we are all ignorant?

Best,

[ClubOfRomeII]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ClubOfRomeII', ' ')Seems like it makes more sense than going after an honest business just supplying a wanted commodity.

[ClubOfRomeII]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('50mpgVWTDI', 'I') guess I am one of your "ignorant" people.

We live in the area and are familiar with Peabody. Well liked by all.

Care to share with me why we are all ignorant?

Best,

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'P')eabody is currently has applied to the Office of Surface Mining for permission to expand the mine using even more of the precious desert aquifers in a wasteful and capricous way, digging an even bigger, uglier wound in the ground, displacing even more Navaho traditionals off their lands, and pumping even more CO2 into the atmosphere at the Mohave generating station in Nevada.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('50mpgVWTDI', 'I') guess I am one of your "ignorant" people.

We live in the area and are familiar with Peabody. Well liked by all.

Care to share with me why we are all ignorant?

Best,

[Cobra_Strike]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gampy', 'I') saw the title of this thread, and thought..."cool, a Half-life video game thread!"

Sorry, I'll leave now.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ClubOfRomeII', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('50mpgVWTDI', 'I') guess I am one of your "ignorant" people.

We live in the area and are familiar with Peabody. Well liked by all.

Care to share with me why we are all ignorant?

Best,

[ClubOfRomeII]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', '
')
It's evident you are one of those adoring workers who haven't so much as sniffed the coffee fumes downwind from a board room lunch time meeting.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ClubOfRomeII', 'S')eems like the original poster couldn't even get the story right, according to Monte's response. Just another "get everyone stirred up for fun and blame whatever company is handy" for it type exercise.

[Elan_Rasa]

Just googled this topic "black mesa peabody water aquifier" and it looks like this issue is live and well in the local community. I would encourage those who are interested to look at this information themselves and decide where you personally stand on this issue.

There is certainly need for continued energy and investors are have a desire for profit, but we all need to decide how we feel about investing in companies that focus on the short term profit in order to sacrifice the future. In this case, it does appear that Peabody is trying to save some money by tapping more and more into the natural aquifer that local communities rely on.

Too long we have focused on material greed at the cost of our own current and future survival. How long will this go on? Given the costs that we are about to face with GW, PO, and the like, how long can we personally afford to ignore these issues and at what cost to our own humanity. I think that before too long we will all have to answer these questions, whether to our children/grandchildren or to ourselves.

Choose to be informed and then take a stance. ER.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ClubOfRomeII', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', '
')
It's evident you are one of those adoring workers who haven't so much as sniffed the coffee fumes downwind from a board room lunch time meeting.

[ClubOfRomeII]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', '
')If you harbour one iota of any illusion as to a company's ultimate objective other than profit (which by definition precludes any deviation from that objective and is accompanied by a syndrome called "denialism") then I am afraid that on the scale of 1-10 arm waving, you are up there within viewing range of the summit and well ahead of your liberal colleague, poxy girl.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ClubOfRomeII', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', '
')If you harbour one iota of any illusion as to a company's ultimate objective other than profit (which by definition precludes any deviation from that objective and is accompanied by a syndrome called "denialism") then I am afraid that on the scale of 1-10 arm waving, you are up there within viewing range of the summit and well ahead of your liberal colleague, poxy girl.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', 'T')he Mohave Generating Station was shut down on December 31, 2005. Final closure came on June 21, 2006.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]No new Federal actions are anticipated for the continued operation of the MGS, including installation of new pollution control devices, thus, the rebuilding of the MGS is not a part of the project being considered in this EIS. However, the impacts of continued operation (or closure) of the MGS will be considered in the EIS, as appropriate. The impacts of the continued operation (or closure) of the MGS are documented in a Preliminary Environmental Assessment For the Mohave Generating Station Continued Operation Potential Project prepared as directed by the California
Public Utilities Commission Administrative Law Judge assigned to Commission proceeding

[frankthetank]

Anyone want to dispute this finding from another site:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') 1 GW coal power plant consumes about 4 million tons of coal per year, releasing about 5.2 tons of Uranium and 12.8 Tons of Thorium into the environment. This is enough fertile material to generate about 5 GW in an IFR or 13 GW in an LFTR. So the coal plant is wasting 18X the energy it generates!

[aahala2]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', 'A')nyone want to dispute this finding from another site:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') 1 GW coal power plant consumes about 4 million tons of coal per year, releasing about 5.2 tons of Uranium and 12.8 Tons of Thorium into the environment. This is enough fertile material to generate about 5 GW in an IFR or 13 GW in an LFTR. So the coal plant is wasting 18X the energy it generates!