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But why isn't anyone doing anything about it?
by ararboin » Thu 28 Apr 2005, 09:33:58
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'w')hen TSHTF people will have to get their act together pretty quick, in one fell swoop.
More likely, when TSHTF, peoples' reactions will be manifested in one huge, collective swell poop.
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by Doly » Thu 28 Apr 2005, 09:45:08
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')I imagine another reason could be about trying to avoid mass panic. If PO becomes widely known about, and the media blasts it into the faces of the masses, what could be the possible results? A likely result is the SHTF scenario. Making the mass public aware and frightened about PO could start the crisis earlier then would happen by adopting a business as usual façade. At least that could be what the worlds leaders believe.
')I imagine another reason could be about trying to avoid mass panic. If PO becomes widely known about, and the media blasts it into the faces of the masses, what could be the possible results? A likely result is the SHTF scenario. Making the mass public aware and frightened about PO could start the crisis earlier then would happen by adopting a business as usual façade. At least that could be what the worlds leaders believe.
I think what the world leaders believe is a variant of this scenario: if they told the public, they wouldn't last long in their position. Which is probably correct. But perhaps keeping our current leaders in their position isn't the best thing for us.
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by PhilBiker » Thu 28 Apr 2005, 10:16:32
What a great thread.
Monte's first paragraph really rings with me. I would use the term "cultural inertia" to describe the phenomenon. People don't see what we're doing as comparable to the orgies and debauchery at the end of the Roman Empire. This is just the way we live. With SUVs and hot tubs in the back of our interest-only financed McMansion. Drive everywhere, it's just the way we operate. A powerdown scenario is simply incomrehensible.
I like this:$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')e who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool--shun him.
He who knows not, and knows that he knows not, is a child--teach him.
He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep--wake him.
He who knows, and knows that he knows, is a wise man--follow him.
I like Jay Hanson's similar summary at www.dieoff.com with the text of the peak oil chapter form Catton's "Overshoot". The problem with waking me up (I see myself as number 3 with the snooze on for the third time.) is that I also agree with this:$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')othing is being done because nothing can realistically be done to deal with peak oil without a massive population decline. There are no answers to peak oil, except an eventual mass die-off.Monte's first paragraph really rings with me. I would use the term "cultural inertia" to describe the phenomenon. People don't see what we're doing as comparable to the orgies and debauchery at the end of the Roman Empire. This is just the way we live. With SUVs and hot tubs in the back of our interest-only financed McMansion. Drive everywhere, it's just the way we operate. A powerdown scenario is simply incomrehensible.
I like this:$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')e who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool--shun him.
He who knows not, and knows that he knows not, is a child--teach him.
He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep--wake him.
He who knows, and knows that he knows, is a wise man--follow him.
I think the difference between me and most on this site is that most of us here think we can do something about the situation. At least get off grid and start a farm in order to care for our own. I don't have any hope for the future at all whatsoever.
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