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Re: "Petrodollar Warfare" William R. Clark

Postby Petrodollar » Wed 12 Oct 2005, 16:25:04

rkerver,
Regarding the article, "Foreign policy realism," I think it is a little too early to claim that the executive branch is returning to a "realist" tradition that runs contrary to neoconservative doctrine.

However, I do hope this article is correct. I suspect the abject failure of the Bush administration to internationalize the Iraq situation is a driver of any such transition on foreign policy outlook. The former head of the National Security Agency under Regan, Retired Lt. General William Odom, recently stated the painfully obvious truth of the matter, "The invasion of Iraq, I believe, will turn out to be the greatest strategic disaster in U.S. history." I try to make the same point in my book, but not nearly so candidly.

So, it may well be this administration has seen the error in their ways, but the true test, IMO, is the Iranian situation. If over the next 6-12 months the Bush administration refrains from acting overtly or covertly against Tehran, then and only then will I be satisfied that "realism" has returned to US foreign policy during Bush's 2nd term.

Although speculative, I think it is possible that some other world leaders could have told this administration that support for the dollar will stop if they try anymore "restructuring" in the Middle East. Such a message could have come from China and/or Russia, but again, that is speculation, as nothing public has been reported.

We have also developed some serious tensions with Latin America...Most notably, Chavez appears fearful of being overthrown (again, by the CIA) or worse (according to nutty Pat Robertson), and I think that China et al will not tolerate any more US organized shennanigans with regard to Venezuela.

Indeed, this administration has backed itself into a corner with both energy and monetary issues, and as Colin Powell tried to warn Bush in 2002: "It's nice to say you can do it unilaterally, except you can't..." Let's hope that article is right, and that Rice got the message, has some say, and that Cheney and Rumsfeld can be "kept in the box" so to speak... :cry:


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As noted in my poist, the figures I used re China and Japanese holdings of T-Bills and other dollar assets were from early 2005 when I finished writing my book. You are correct that China has recently nudged out Japan as the largest holder of dollar denominated assets. Thanks for the articles.


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Thank you for the very kind words regarding my book. :) I am glad you found my recommendations for a "more sane" world hopeful, even if somewhat fleeting...
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Re: "Petrodollar Warfare" William R. Clark

Postby MrBill » Thu 13 Oct 2005, 06:33:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')owever, I do hope this article is correct. I suspect the abject failure of the Bush administration to internationalize the Iraq situation is a driver of any such transition on foreign policy outlook. The former head of the National Security Agency under Regan, Retired Lt. General William Odom, recently stated the painfully obvious truth of the matter, "The invasion of Iraq, I believe, will turn out to be the greatest strategic disaster in U.S. history." I try to make the same point in my book, but not nearly so candidly.


I think you are quite right about Iraq & Iran. I certainly hope the current administration has learnt its lesson about unilateralism and returns to a more balanced, saner foreign policy. However, I would like to explain my ideas on why things went down the way they did.

First the UN does not work. Too many competing national interests, especially amoung the security council members. So in the end, institutional paralysis.

What are the options?

1. Unilateralism or a coalition of the willing as tried in Afgahnistan & Iraq. Mixed results. But, more importantly no exit strategy. As you said, maybe the worst strategical error in US history.

2. Rely on your 'allies' to negotiate a solution as tried between the EU & Iran over their nuclear ambitions. Again, this softly, softly diplomacy approach has not worked. The EU looks weaker and less credible than before and they did not achieve their intended results. Okay, at least you do not have a commitment of troops & money as in Iraq. But, also no foreign policy success that say we should negotiate a settlement.

3. Multiparty talks as is ongoing between China, S. Korea, Japan, Russia and the USA with N. Korea. Again, no success. N. Korea plays its usual brinkmanship and the intended result is not achieved. To a certain extent they are contained, but they are still a threat to themselves and others. Nevermind the costs in terms of human suffering.

So, the UN does not work as it is currently organized. Unilateralism carries specific threats and costs, can achieve some goals, but often has unintended consequences. So, are the EU option has not worked, so they refer it to the UN, which will be unsuccessful because both China and Russia oppose sanctions, which didn't work against Iraq in the first place. Thirdly, you try to get all interested parties to talk and put pressure on N. Korea, but like all game theory, unless there is a credible threat for punitive actions then the carrots are not going to entice them to give up their nuclear ambitions just stall and backtrack once the spotlight is off them.

I mean seriously, in a perfect world, the UN would function, multiparty talks would work, your allies would help you, and unilateralism & force would be a last resort. However, I don't see any of these approaches working at this time? End result, any nation can acquire nuclear weapons and conduct ethnic cleansing on a grand scale, so long as it is too dangerous to confront them head-on. I dunno, not a very ideal world is it, so although you may not agree with America, at least you have to understand from where their policy options start from. :!:
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Re: "Petrodollar Warfare" William R. Clark

Postby MrBill » Thu 13 Oct 2005, 08:43:29

These are the type of conflicts that America gets dragged into because of a lack of a functioning, credible UN. Of course, they should not have to, but then these countries slip deeper into the abyss and they become breeding grounds for poverty, war, ethnic cleansing & terrorism.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Bottom Line

As Khartoum seeks to break out of international isolation, it faces the legacy of northern domination of Sudan's south and west. Northern interests remain dominant in the country, but they have been challenged by previously suppressed regional groups.

Unwillingness of the northern political class to share power more generously promises to lead to eventual secession by the south and continued warfare in the west. The latter will constrain Washington to keep Khartoum on its list of terrorism sponsors. Hosting the counter-terrorism conference did nothing to change Khartoum's precarious position and enhance its international legitimacy.

Drained by civil war in the west and persisting tensions with the south, Khartoum will be hard pressed to achieve its development goals.

Having chosen to stay out of Somalia, at odds with Eritrea and equivocal towards Sudan, Washington risks being drawn into regional conflicts on one or another side rather than achieving its aim of regional integration. If Washington takes sides, it risks exacerbating instability; if it refrains from doing so, its effectiveness will be, at best, modest.

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Re: "Petrodollar Warfare" William R. Clark

Postby rkerver » Thu 13 Oct 2005, 09:12:06

MrBill:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')color=darkblue]Rely on your 'allies' to negotiate a solution as tried between the EU & Iran over their nuclear ambitions.[/color]

We have a bit of a dilemma worldwide with respect to the nuclear question. In the face of the inevitable decline of world oil and NG, nuclear energy remains a viable option, in the opinion of many, despite the objections. A new definition of a nuclear power is a country that has used their fossil legacy to leverage themselves into having nuclear power plants and all the necessary expertise to build and operate them, like France.

A multilateral coalition, open policy, a commitment to peace and frequent inspections are the only means to insuring that nuclear capability is not further leveraged into the making of bombs. That approach did succeed in Iraq, according to UN Monitoring and Verification Commission Chairman Blix and IAEA director-General ElBaradei. They already reporting each month to the Security Council that they could find no indication that Saddam Hussein had made any attempt to reconstruct his WMD programs in Iraq.

The Slow Enmeshing of Iran By Linda S. Heard, Al-Jazeerah, October 5, 2005, Article Here
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')color=darkblue]Under Article IV of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), of which Iran is a signatory, Iran not only has the right to develop nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, nuclear powers have an obligation to assist it in furthering this aim. Here's the applicable text: "Nothing in this Treaty shall be interpreted as affecting the inalienable right of all the Parties to the Treaty to develop, research, produce and use nuclear energy for peaceful purposes without discrimination …" [/color]

I support Iran's hopes for the peaceful use of nuclear energy and becoming a part of the multilateral coalition. It was the PNAC spawned neoconservative elite that labeled Iran an "axis of evil," in order to push their global hegemony everywhere in the mideast. If you were Iran and understood the limits of oil, you'd also have nuclear ambitions.
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Re: "Petrodollar Warfare" William R. Clark

Postby Petrodollar » Thu 13 Oct 2005, 09:19:03

MrBill,
I agree that the current UN is not working very well. However, it worked well enough from 1948-2000. As one U.S. congress member once stated a few decades ago (paraphrasing) "The purpose of the UN is not to get you into Heaven, but to keep you out of Hell." In otherwords, it is a vehicle originally designed to prevent the outbreak of global warfare. It served this purpose well enough during the Cold War standoff. Thank God.

However, for the past 5 years, the United Nations has not worked well because the sole superpower has been acting unilaterally in an attempt to maintain its declining economic status, while also attempting to strategically control the world's largest remaining hydrocarbon energy supply - this strategy be default requires that the UN be purposely undermined. Need more evidence? just review comments of John Bolton regarding the UN. :cry:

These recent developments may ultimately become the real tragedy of this new century, which began with the unilateral war against Iraq. Why could this become the tragedy of the 21st century? Its becoming obvious, what the world needs desperately is the UN to step-up and engage in multilateral negotiations with the G-8 (plus China and India) regarding the global energy challenges: mainly the pursuit of both demand side strategies and cooperateion regarding alternative/renewable energy implementation. Monetrary reform is also required, but energy is first.

Specifically, the UN needs to advocate something like the Upsalla Protocol, otherwise known as the Oil Depletion Protocol. Failure of the UN to get nations to adopt to such a multilateral treaty may lead to what Heinberg calls the "Last One Standing" strategy. That outcome will indeed lead us into Hell on Earth...global resource warfare :?

BTW, to address your comments about North Korea, pages 184-185 of Petrodollar Warfare:

Korea
Resolving the Korean peninsular dispute requires at the very minimum the reinvigoration of the Sunshine Policy rapprochement and ending this administration’s rather irrational antagonism of North Korea. A German-style reunification should become the ultimate target of US foreign policy, with UN involvement for the reassimilation of North Korea’s disastrous economy. Furthermore, the $13 billion South Korean military budget alone is larger than North Korea’s entire $9 billion governmental budget. Negotiations should entail blanket amnesty for Kim Jong Il as well as all North Korean officialdom, a concrete US military withdrawal timeline (as a concurrent de-escalation), and an economic revitalization development plan could easily include $8 billion of the current South Korean annual military expenditure bolstered with $2 billion of US assistance ($100 billion/10 years).

To gain amnesty, the North Korean government would be required to forfeit all 8,000 spent uranium fuel rods, transferable technology, and related nuclear material to the UN or International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). Additionally, in exchange for massive economic, food supplies, and agricultural development, the North Korean government should agree to cease all exports of advanced missile technology. For this, the US and world community should fulfill the earlier pledge to build two light-water nuclear power plants for North Korea’s energy needs. In effect, the proposed reassimilation of North and South Korea, along with general amnesty for the current North Korean regime, should remove the impetus for such weaponry.

....Now, to answer your larger question: What are the options? Well, below are exerts from the final chapter in my book. Numerous recommendations are found throughout the book, but this should give you some perspective on the macro challanges that are involved from my perspective...

(Petrodollar Warfare, pages 212-216)

In order to save the American experiment and stop the slide toward an authoritarian state, Americans must elect an enlightened administration in 2008 and create revolutionary changes in the current political establishment. Both of the major political parties have failed the American people, as the main constituencies of the current governing body are simply different factions of the richest two-percent of the population (the elites who run the military–industrial–petroleum–banking complex). This is a function of our structurally flawed campaign finance system that renders both Congress and the president incapable of voicing the concerns and interests of the other 98 percent of Americans.

There is no easy way out, and I do not envy the arduous journey that awaits the 44th president, who will likely face a combined economic and energy crisis. Global monetary reform and a compromise with the EU ultimately means the US will have to forfeit its hyperpower status and revert to being a realistic nation as one among equals. Many Americans do want to hear this message, but the US’extraordinary economic imbalances will ultimately unwind. Americans believe the myth that the other G–7 nations’ living standards would somehow be unfulfilling if we lived “their way.”

In reality their living standards are all excellent relative to the global community, and each of the citizens in those privileged nations should be thankful. Perhaps many of us will have to give up our irrational attraction to gas-guzzling SUVs, but do we really want these excesses to define our “values?” Regardless, we may not have the luxury of choice for much longer, as the dictates of the global economy and physics will soon come to the forefront.

The only solution is international cooperation, real leadership, global monetary reform, and sacrifices by the American citizenry to reduce energy consumption. US politicians are not interested in being truthful with the people, as both parties are more or less in the pockets of the military–energy conglomerates. The US media conglomerates are not serving the public’s interest. Consequently, real campaign finance reform and the comprehensive rejection of corporate personhood may be the only way for the US to possibly enact the required energy reforms with the onset of global Peak Oil.

In order to save the American experiment from the shared destiny of all empires — military overextension and subsequent economic decline — I recommend the following suggestions. While these proposals are bold, imperfect, and contentious, it is obvious that adjustments will be required to begin rebalancing the global economy and preparing the world community for the challenges presented by global Peak Oil.

Disavow the Preventative War Doctrine
The unrealistic neoconservative goal of global domination must be quickly discarded by any new US administration if it seeks to reduce current and future geopolitical tensions. The concept of the US openly violating international law with unilateral “preventative wars” in the oil-rich regions of the world will simply not be tolerated by most industrialized nations. Hopefully one of the first official acts of the 44th president will be to officially disavow the “Bush doctrine” and state a desire for a multilateral approach to international terrorism. Such a gesture would allow the world community to breathe a collective sign of relief and extend to the new administration much needed political capital. Multilateral cooperation will be needed for the following issues/reforms.

US Fiscal Discipline
We must restore some semblance of fiscal responsibility in this country if we want to save the dollar. The Iraq conflict had cost approximately $300 billion by the end of 2004, and estimates of current military expenditures are approximately $1 billion per week. US taxpayers (and their children and grandchildren) will pay for the 2003 Iraq War, unlike the 1991 Gulf War. The credit worthiness of a currency is based upon the ability of the government to collect tax revenue from its citizens. The devaluation of the dollar in 2002–2004 reflected the world community’s lack of faith in US economic policies.

International Energy Projects
Washington should propose to the UN that it form an international consortium of energy scientists and researchers to develop alternative fuels for transportation. IHS Energy has stated that least 85 percent of the world’s total oil deposits are already in production. The most recent findings of worldwide oil “mega projects” going online from 2004 to 2010 suggest an “unbridgeable supply-demand gap [for oil] opening up after 2007.” If alternative fuels for transportation cannot be developed and implemented over the next decade, disastrous consequences will beset the global community. Ideally, the US and UN would immediately advocate investments totally hundreds of billions to be spent annually on simultaneous, international Manhattan Project/Apollo-type energy programs pursuant to global energy reconfiguration.

• Ultra-fuel-efficient gasoline and diesel engines (as a “bridge technology”)
• Clean coal technology with mitigation of carbon dioxide emissions
• Geothermal power (retrofitting commercial and residential buildings)
• Hydrogen/Ammonia Fuel cells for mass transit (land, sea, and air)
• Small-scale solar retrofitting of residential and commercial buildings
• Large-scale solar power plants (e.g., 200-megawatt solar “Power Tower”)
• OTEC (e.g., fleet of 100-megawatt floating plantships producing liquefied ammonia/hydrogen fuel and potable water)
• Biomass and biodiesel for localized, agriculture-based farm production
• Wind power (rapid deployments in both small and large-scale settings)
• Thermal deployermization (new technology that warrants more R&D)
• Nuclear fusion (still unproven technology but warrants more R&D)

Advanced Manufacturing to Reduce US Trade Deficit
Alan Greenspan, the chairman of the Federal Reserve, has given Americans the peculiar impression that is does not matter where American products are made, just so long as people can continue to buy them. This is simply not true. The demise of over 2.8 million US manufacturing jobs since 2000 has led to decreased income, growing levels of personal debt, and new records of personal bankruptcies.

A superpower that loses its manufacturing base will not be a superpower for long. One of the most outspoken observers of this truism is Eamonn Fingleton, whose 1999 book In Praise of Hard Industries: Why Manufacturing, Not the Information Economy, Is the Key to Future Prosperity was somewhat derided during the “New Economy” frenzy. Following the dot-com/technology bubble, it appeared that he was right: there is no “New Economy paradigm,” and real wealth creation requires manufacturing and production.

The US must substantially reinvest in sustainable energy technology, advanced manufacturing, and various other export sectors in order to gradually but earnestly move the economy from a trade account deficit position back into a trade account surplus position. This will take decades, but on a positive note, the imperative for large-scale “energy reconfiguration” and development of alternative energy technologies provides the US workforce with an opportunity to makes gains in its advanced manufacturing base, while also enhancing long-term security.

Energy Allocation Accords
The UN should form an international group of scientists and engineers to study energy depletion stemming from global Peak Oil. Under UN supervision, the global community should devise a methodology and formal agreements regarding the distribution of hydrocarbons based on the global depletion rate (i.e., Upsalla Accord). Successful implementation of such a worldwide treaty would undoubtedly be a modern miracle. The incentive to abide by such an accord is the inescapable fact that the alternatives are either oil depletion warfare in the Persian Gulf and/or economic warfare in the international foreign exchange markets. These adverse events can be avoided, but only if the international community can agree to an energy treaty that reflects oil depletion, while also transforming the current economic/monetary system and implementing strict measures to control population growth.

It is essential that the US uses less energy and immediately improves its infrastructure before the full effects of Peak Oil make any energy reforms excessively painful and expensive. Given that Americans consume 25 percent of all hydrocarbons, we have the most to both gain and lose if energy reforms are not implemented during this decade while we still have the capability to pursue a gradual Powerdown scenario.

Global Monetary Reform
The main problem with the current global economy is that excess levels of credit creation (i.e. a credit/derivative bubble) have facilitated the building of supply capacity that is well beyond the requirements of global aggregate demand. As a general rule a period of deflationary contraction would permit a decline of supply capacity until such time that growth in demand initiates a new expansionary cycle.

Economists, such as Richard Duncan (author of The Dollar Crisis), have argued that excessive growth of global credit and subsequent structural problems of the US dollar may unleash a deflationary contraction of the global economy. A depression could occur with a significant devaluation of the dollar, and the downturn will be very long-lasting unless global aggregate demand increases, particularly in the EU and East Asian economies.

Therefore it seems imperative that the US government begins discussions with the G–8 nations (plus China) to reform the global monetary system, ideally, to allow for a controlled expansion of markets in Europe and East Asia. The global economy will be more balanced and better off with three engines of global growth: the US, the EU, and Asia. The great challenge will be to implement a gradual, controlled decrease in the US money supply, while attempting to minimize dislocations in the US and global economy. The first reform should be the euro as the second International Reserve Currency, at parity with the dollar, thereby allowing a dual-OPEC oil transaction currency standard. This should join the US with the EU as two equal “co-hegemons.”

While this rebalancing is necessary to create sustainable long-term growth, any broad transition from a dollar to a euro standard or euro/dollar standard with subsequent enormous capital market reorientation will be forcefully opposed by the American elite of the political and business establishment.

Regardless, the ascendance of the euro and ultimately the yuan has likely been fortified given the structural debt, trade, and fiscal imbalances in the US economy. The US consumer cannot go into indefinite debt as the single engine for global growth, nor can the Federal Reserve continue to reinflate bubbles indefinitely.

Both the EU and East Asia will have to recognize that the party is over and they cannot ride the American consumer in perpetuity. Whether or not they wish to confront the challenges of this transition, they will find these imposed by brutal economic realities.

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Re: "Petrodollar Warfare" William R. Clark

Postby rkerver » Thu 13 Oct 2005, 09:32:57

Amen.
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Re: "Petrodollar Warfare" William R. Clark

Postby MrBill » Thu 13 Oct 2005, 11:48:12

It sounds like quite an ambitious agenda given that none of those goals has so far even been given a fair hearing.

I am not sure for example that Kim Sun is willing to give up power in N.Korea for a broad based amnesty and two civilian reactors? My guess given his past actions is no.

The European Union has so far not been able to negotiate, peacefully with Iran to give up their nuclear ambitions. Clearly we are not talking civilian reactors here, but the pursuit of nuclear weapons á la Pakistan, India and N. Korea. If that is their goal they should withdraw from the NPT and get on with it.

I agree the world cannot rely on China and the USA as the consumers of last resort and only pillars of economic growth as per my comments in the Survey of the World Economy forum. No argument here.

The UN must be reformed and I do not think you can just blame this on an obstructionist USA. France, China and Russia must especially share the blame for a disfunctional UN as well as all countries that follow strictly nationalist policies at the expense of broad concensus.

I am not familar with the protocol you reccommend every nation sign? Is this a guarantee of oil supplies? What about corruption? It is fine to allocate oil for emergency services in each country for example, but who polices that the oil is not stolen and sold on the black market to enrich corrupt politicans and their cronies such as in Zimbabwe?

Although I share your desire to unwind global fiscal imbalances and think that America must urgently address this issue, your proposal is one that I cannot agree with for the simple reason that I do not share your admiration for the strength and stability of the euro because although there is a stabillity charter governing debts & deficits many countries like Italy, Greece, Spain and Portugal lied about the state of their finances to join the euro, benefitted from substantially lower interest rates in the euro, but now are finding that they cannot control their debts & deficits anymore either. Simply not enough economic convergence before they joined the euro. And this has also meant that even countries like France & Germany have also had problems keeping their debts & deficits under control. Even if you do not agree with me on any other topic, you have to address the economic problems in the eurozone and admit that their external imbalances are on the whole no worse than the US'?

But, even if I were to accept your premise that America's imbalances are unsustainable and Europe's are an admirable goal of debt & deficit control not withstanding their structural weaknesses, I am wondering how you envision holding dollars to euros at par in a basket given their different business cycles, growth rates, tax rates, interest rates and other differences in the two economies? If the ERM did not work within Europe, I do not see a basket working between the eurozone and the USA? I think a currency union would be disasterous. Who wouldn't want to borrow at European levels and invest in a faster growing US economy? Afterall, is that not what is happening in Europe today? Spain, Ireland, Portugal and other countries using Germany, Holland & Belgium's stability to borrow more cheaply and then invest in faster growing areas? You would have to clarify this for me please?

Well, I have to dash. It's been nice. Sure, I'll buy your book. I'll be interested to know how you answer these questions? Cheers.
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Re: "Petrodollar Warfare" William R. Clark

Postby Petrodollar » Thu 13 Oct 2005, 12:35:49

MrBill,
You stated:

"I'll buy your book. I'll be interested to know how you answer these questions?"

Thanks, you were a "hard sell." :lol: but I think many of the answers to your questions are in Chapter 1 and 7.

Briefly, I think the imbalances in the US are far worse than the EU (trade balance, systemic budget deficits and overall foreign debt in the US is incomparable to other industrialized economies). Most frustrating is that the EU uses far less energy than the US - while it still maintains a high quality manufactuirng base (& positive trade balance), and is moving foward rapidly and earnestly with renewable energy implementations. We have neither of these structural advantages, and that will make the 21st century far different than the 20th century.

Secondly, I completely reject the premise that the US enjoys a faster "growing" economy than the EU. The main thing "growing" in the US is not the real economy, but rather, debt financing. I think the average US worker is now $350,000 in debt (aggregated debt levels). I agree with Fingleton that the service sector/IT economy is not the future, as real wealth creation is found in manufacturing and production...and both the EU and China have done a better job of preserving the real means for real economic growth.

Furthermore, the methodology used by the US gov't to calculate unemployment is also fundamentally flawed, and our umemployment is actually similar to Germany. I read somewhere that using the current unemployment rate methodolgy would have cut the reported unemployment rate back 1933 in half. Why? Because after 12 months the unemployed dissappear from the states. Other statisitics such as GDP are flawed too, but again, this is all outlined in chapter 1.

I am not alone in my comparison of the US vs. EU eoconomies, as OPEC, the BIS and IMF, all agree that the US is structually imbalanced, while the EU, depsite its numersous problems, is still "more balanced" than the US (quote from an OPEC exec). However, to me the larger question is: Who uses less hydrocarbon energy - yet still produces viable goods and services - and who can weather the iminent energy crisis better?

BTW, if you are still in Cyprus, I'll be on Greek Public TV next month (They interviewed me on Sept 26th. Send me a PM if interested, as perhaps you have access to that TV station)
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Re: "Petrodollar Warfare" William R. Clark

Postby MrBill » Fri 14 Oct 2005, 05:30:59

I am not sure about Greek TV in Cyprus. I think this is my pennance on earth for my sins? :) I only get a few channels, and they are all of poor quality, so I am forced to watch CNN, Euronews & CCTV most of the time. Not a very varied diet considering CNN & Euronews often report the same stories and they repeat every hour on the hour. CCTV gives an interesting slant of events. Much like reading news at http://english.aljazeera.net you just get a non-US centric perspective of current events.

In any case, I have posted a full reply to your posting under a Survey of the Global Economy as it is quite long and may not belong here under books & media reviews. However, you can find it at




A Survey of the Global Economy

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Re: "Petrodollar Warfare" William R. Clark

Postby Revi » Tue 18 Oct 2005, 13:05:34

I just read Petrodollar Warfare, and was just as scared as when I first read The Party's Over. The economic implications of Peak Oil are about twice as scary. I got the feeling that the US was like the kid who's father owned the car dealership. While it was good times the kid always had a new car. Now dad's selling the dealership. The good times are over. The reason we could use oil and gas with such wild abandon was that we were the dealers. Now there is a bit of competition coming for the dealership. I am worried about the economy now, and not just the impending oil crisis. The cost of everything is rising too fast. Is it the dollar tanking? Maybe the rest of the world will take us out of the equation just to preserve the oil that's left. Especially if we take on Iran over the oil bourse. Great...
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Re: "Petrodollar Warfare" William R. Clark

Postby Petrodollar_gst1 » Wed 19 Oct 2005, 11:50:21

Revi,
Thanks for the kind words about my book. I feel it is vitally important that people understand the underyling reasons for current geopolitical tensions, and with your knowledge, you will be far more immune to the "shows and feights" of political leaders as they attempt to whip the citizenry into a frenzy for more oil depletion or oil currency related warfare. If things should begin to unwind into a more sustainable enviroment, you will be amoung the "early adoptors" that recognize the necessay changes.

I also try to make the point in the book that an alternative geopolitical course is still possible, but we as citizens must give the politicians the needed impetus for the sacrifices that are required, especially here in the U.S. Bottom line: We need to once again live within our means from an energy and fiscal perspective, as that is the fundamental message of Petrodollar Warfare. Thanks again for your comments about my book.
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Re: "Petrodollar Warfare" William R. Clark

Postby Petrodollar » Wed 19 Oct 2005, 11:52:47

Opps, I was not logged in previously, but it's just me, Petrodollar... 8)
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Re: "Petrodollar Warfare" William R. Clark

Postby MrBill » Wed 19 Oct 2005, 12:01:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')e need to once again live within our means from an energy and fiscal perspective, as that is the fundamental message of Petrodollar Warfare.


Why didn't you say so in the first place? :)
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Re: "Petrodollar Warfare" William R. Clark

Postby Revi » Wed 19 Oct 2005, 13:39:51

We're certainly living within our means, but it seems like everybody else isn't. We live in a smallish house that's almost paid off, have solar hot water, a woodstove and a woodlot to feed it, and have shrunk our cars. It still seems like the wolf is at the door. Well, he'll just have to wait. I hope we can hold it all together until the mortgage is paid and the kid is off to college. If the dollar doesn't tank too badly we might just make it...
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Re: "Petrodollar Warfare" William R. Clark

Postby wilburke » Wed 02 Nov 2005, 09:09:13

William Clark, I just sent you a PM with an important, off-line question.
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Re: "Petrodollar Warfare" William R. Clark

Postby Euric » Sun 13 Nov 2005, 14:42:19

Questions for William R Clark:

1.) Do you know the name of the German Software Company that wrote the software for the Iranian Oil Bourse to function? Is it SAP? I went to their site and typed Iranian Oil Bourse in their search block and came up with this:

http://www.sap.com/industries/oil-gas/index.epx

Not exactly a match, but they are involved in that industry.

2.) The bourse is suppose to function on 2006-03-20, but will there be any test transactions before that? Won't the software have to be proven before the bourse functions?

3.) How many oil producers beside Iran will use the bourse? I'm sure some will sign on later, but what about at first?

4.) If the Bourse is a success, then what percentage of oil sales will be in euros by the end of March 2006?

5.) Do they have any contracted customers at present?

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Re: "Petrodollar Warfare" William R. Clark

Postby Petrodollar » Mon 14 Nov 2005, 17:28:09

Euric,
Those are good questions. However, I do not know the answers to your specific questions. I doubt that anyone knows those answers except for the entities immediately involved with the bourse.

Only time will tell, but my guess is that many of the European Union will use the bourse (certainly Italy), and depending on their trade relationship and currency reserves with the US vs. the EU, some Asian countries are likely to participate too. The Asia Clearing Unit (ACU) already pays Iran with euros for its oil, even though the price of the trades is dollar-denominated.

According to the CIA World Fact book, these are Iran's main export partners:

Japan 18.4%, China 9.7%, Italy 6%, South Africa 5.8%, South Korea 5.4%, Taiwan 4.6%, Turkey 4.4%, Netherlands 4% (2004)

As for total trade volumes, all I can say is that Iran supposedly has 10% of the world's oil reserves, contributes about 5% of total oil exports (almost 4 mb/ls global), and has the 2nd largest natural gas reserves in the world (after Russia). If Saudi and others begin utilizing the bourse (per earlier articles), and Russia too, then a substantial part of global oil trades could be conducted via the bourse...But like I said, only time will tell, and dynamics are unpredictable.
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Re: "Petrodollar Warfare" William R. Clark

Postby MrBill » Tue 15 Nov 2005, 08:33:42

Iran supplies about 2.4 mbpd to world markets

Non-EU alligned countries & interests

Japan imports 550.000 bpd and have $2 billion invested in the Azadegan oilfield

China imports 300.000 bpd have have indicated a willingness to invest up to $2 bio in the Yadavaran oilfield

India imports 150.000+ bpd from Iran and has $22 bio LPG imports lined-up from Iran over the next 25-years. India is participating in a $7 bio pipeline between India and Iran via Pakistan

Russia currently has no sizeable investments in Iran for the obvious reason that it would jeaopardize its relations with Iraq where it has significant oil & gas interests some of which are in dispute.

Russian oil companies, such as Lukoil, publish their public accounts under international accounting standards in dollars, so any euro sales would introduce foreign exchange risk and if hedged become on balance sheet liabilities and therefore potentially lower their ROE and therefore share price.

Royal Dutch Shell buys about 200.000 bpd of Iranian crude and has $1 bio invested in the Soroush/Nowruz oilfields. RDS hopes to invest in LNG in Iran along with Spain's Repsol.

Korea refines about 100.000 bpd of Iranian crude and has an investment of $1.6 bio in the South Pars gas field. Given America's security guarantees to S. Korea they would not likely jeopardize this arrangement while N. Korea is busy building & test firing warheads.

Turkey consumes 140.000 bpd of Iranian crude, but as a member of NATO and a US partner they are also unlikely to back an Iranian plan despite their EU membership aspirations.

EU alligned interests

Italy's ENI lifts +/- 60.000 bpd of Iranian crude and has $1 bio invested in the Darkhovin oilfield. Italy was a member of the coalition of the willing in Iraq and is closely alligned with the UK and the USA.

Spain's Total imports modest amounts of Iranian crude oil. It hopes to invest in an LNG project with RDS. It is involved in projects in Sirri, Doroud & Balal oilfields as well as the South Pars gas field along with Russia's Gazprom and Malaysia's Petronas.

source: Reuters & Bloomberg

Other OPEC producers such as Saudi Arabia, UAE, Nigeria and Kuwait are unlikely to follow Iran's lead for religious and political reasons. According to a recent article in The Economist ME purchases of US treasury bills are falling and much more oil wealth is being invested locally in Middle Eastern economies as well as invested in non-US stocks & bonds. In particular the Dubai stock exchange has become an attractive alternative for dollar investments outside of the USA for security reasons. Although there seems to be no widespread exodus from US denominated assets (at the present).

source: Recycling the petrodollars
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Re: "Petrodollar Warfare" William R. Clark

Postby MrBill » Wed 16 Nov 2005, 07:28:30

RE Russians continuing to price oil in dollars $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
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The exchange front was active yesterday with ICE announcing its IPO price at $26 per new common share. That is the equivalent of $6.5 per old A share and exceeds the B share price guarantee of $5.895 per share. Nymex announced progress in the search for the holy grail of futures – a successful sour crude contract. They have formed a JV with Russian interests which they hope will lead to the launch of a Russian export blend crude futures contract (REBCO) probably to be traded electronically on Nymex Europe. Although not mentioned, given the failure of their open outcry Brent contract it would seem sensible to relaunch it electronically alongside the REBCO contract and attack ICE Brent head on. The window of opportunity has fallen nicely for the ICE IPO, but there are some big battles to be fought with Nymex in the months ahead on both futures and OTC clearing.


So while no news is no news on the status of the IOB, it looks like the NYMEX is set to go head to head with the ICE for their share of the electronically traded market? I have not traded the Emini on the CME, but other traders tell me they like it? I prefer electronic trading in any case. Faster execution and more price transparency. I have never been happy with my fills on the NYMEX open outcry, although they have been the acknowleged price & volume leader. They obviously are feeling the heat from the ICE which continues to creep up in volumes and is now a serious alternative to the NYMEX. However, if the REBCO, the new Urals blend contract, and the NYMEX Brent are successful the ICE may have to come up with something new? Perhaps a contract in euros? :-D
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Re: "Petrodollar Warfare" William R. Clark

Postby Euric » Fri 18 Nov 2005, 19:19:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', '
')Other OPEC producers such as Saudi Arabia, UAE, Nigeria and Kuwait are unlikely to follow Iran's lead for religious and political reasons. According to a recent article in The Economist ME purchases of US treasury bills are falling and much more oil wealth is being invested locally in Middle Eastern economies as well as invested in non-US stocks & bonds. In particular the Dubai stock exchange has become an attractive alternative for dollar investments outside of the USA for security reasons. Although there seems to be no widespread exodus from US denominated assets (at the present).

source: Recycling the petrodollars


If what you say here is true, then using the petrodollars for anything other then purchasing US debt (treasuries) is just as bad as switching to a different currency for the sale of oil. In essence, the users of petrodollars are in fact cashing in their dollars for goods and services. forcing the US Central Bank to keep raising interest rates to keep the dollar from losing value. The euro has dropped in value in recent weeks because the ECB still has low rates. Now, they are talking of raising them too.

There doesn't have to be a mass selling of dollar assets to bring down the petrodollar. Bringing down a super-power has to be done delicately so as not to bring everyone else down with it.

Is there a website that shows how much of the treasuries are being purchased either daily or monthly?
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