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Are you seriously considering defaulting on your debts...

Discussions about the economic and financial ramifications of PEAK OIL

Default to live longer...or FICO to the end...

Yes - screw paying debts...if its good for wallstreet pigmen it is good for me...
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Rocc - I am thinking about it, but it took me a long time to get a 3,000 FICO...I am holding on to it a little longer...
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Bought everything I need already and still have a 17,980 FICO score...
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Rocc...it is only about the FICO...god=FICO...best take care of it...
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Rocc-this is really "so five minutes ago"...find a politician to yell at and stop wasting band width and go the way of golem...
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Re: Are you seriously considering defaulting on your debts..

Unread postby Roccland » Fri 26 Sep 2008, 09:38:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roccland', 'Y')ou will be sad in the future Ludi.
Oh sure, I know that. But I don't think defaulting on my debts would make me happier. I can see it backfiring very badly.

You will not have a choice. Do you really think you are going to be afforded THIRY YEARS to pay back your mortgage?
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Re: Are you seriously considering defaulting on your debts..

Unread postby Cashmere » Fri 26 Sep 2008, 10:11:20

Would anybody else pay 20 bucks to see how horrible Roc's credit score is?

I mean, the kind of venom toward FICO and 30 year mortgages we see in his posts is a special kind of venom.

Like a serial killer's venom toward short brunettes because his mother was a short brunette who walked out when he was 8, leaving him with his abusive step father.

I mean Roc doesn't hate FICO, Roc loathes FICO more than Durshawitz loathes Nazi paraphernalia. Roc day dreams about taking FICO out back and blasting it with a 12 gauge shotgun, repeatedly. Roc wants FICO gone like Michael Moore wants Bush gone.

So what was it?

Can you imagine the interview at the bank?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loan Officer', 'L')oan Officer: And so, Mr. . . . Mr. "Roccland", is it? So you say you want this loan to, em, uh hem, um, build a "bunker", is that correct? And the bunker is to protect you from . . . Mr. Roccland . . . what's that? OK, if you insist. Um, "Roc", um, so this bunker is to protect you from, um, "Zombie Hordes" Mr. Ro. . . , um Roc? Is that right? Mr. um, Roc, you know, we typically prefer FICO scores over 600 for, you know, for securing construction costs on Bunkers.


You've gotta hand it to Roc and his new found disciple - they went all-in with their prediction that the system was going to lock up entirely.

I'll be back next week to post on this thread to see how Roc and co's prediction of systemic lock up has panned out.

How long before we see images on the boob tube of some guy somewhere locked inside his bunker with his kidnapped children and ex-wife warning the SWAT team to stay back or he'll blow the FICO out of them?
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Re: Are you seriously considering defaulting on your debts..

Unread postby Roccland » Fri 26 Sep 2008, 10:14:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', 'W')ould anybody else pay 20 bucks to see how horrible Roc's credit score is?

the SWAT team to stay back or he'll blow the FICO out of them?


Funny...

Actually I make well over 6 figs (in the energy field)...and have a very high FICO.

I speak for the people cash...really bro...you should try it sometime.
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Re: Are you seriously considering defaulting on your debts..

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Fri 26 Sep 2008, 10:17:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'I') would be astounded if anyone could use a Credit Card tomorrow to buy stuff. That would be a real lag time in the system. Debit Cards maybe work a couple of days here on the ATMs. If your Credit Card DOES work tomorrow, MAX IT OUT. Its all funny money anyhow.

Wow. You're really freaking out. I'm not really seeing that much excitement in the world this morning. I freaked out last week when they banned short selling, but I'm not really feeling much today. Maybe my brain is a little steamed from all the canning this week.
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Re: Are you seriously considering defaulting on your debts..

Unread postby Cashmere » Fri 26 Sep 2008, 10:28:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roccland', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', 'W')ould anybody else pay 20 bucks to see how horrible Roc's credit score is?

the SWAT team to stay back or he'll blow the FICO out of them?


Funny...

Actually I make well over 6 figs (in the energy field)...and have a very high FICO.

I speak for the people cash...really bro...you should try it sometime.


Ok, send me your SS number and I'll run the check. :lol:

Stop trying to scare people down into your metaphorical bunker Roc.

We'll check in a week to see if your Big Bang moment has arrived.
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Re: Are you seriously considering defaulting on your debts..

Unread postby Roccland » Fri 26 Sep 2008, 10:29:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roccland', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', 'W')ould anybody else pay 20 bucks to see how horrible Roc's credit score is?

the SWAT team to stay back or he'll blow the FICO out of them?


Funny...

Actually I make well over 6 figs (in the energy field)...and have a very high FICO.

I speak for the people cash...really bro...you should try it sometime.


Ok, send me your SS number and I'll run the check. :lol:

Stop trying to scare people down into your metaphorical bunker Roc.

We'll check in a week to see if your Big Bang moment has arrived.


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Really - type in the corresponding numbers on the telephone...
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Re: Are you seriously considering defaulting on your debts..

Unread postby beamofthewave » Fri 26 Sep 2008, 10:42:45

I am going to continue paying on my credit cards and my mortgage as long as I have a job. That is where I am at, though the way some of these companies operate astound me. I called Qwest to get rid of some service so I could have a lower bill, they told me I could have the same service if I gave a 100 for a fee. I did and after 3 mos they raised my bill again so again I called them and they told me if I cancel I have to pay 200 in penalty. Can they do that? I signed nothing with any penalty notice if I quit early. They told me by paying my bill I agreed to this. Can they do that? They are now agreeing to provide 6 more mos of internet service and phone service at the lower price but the threat of 200 in penalty for early disconnect without me agreeing to that still annoys me.
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Re: Are you seriously considering defaulting on your debts..

Unread postby Ferretlover » Fri 26 Sep 2008, 10:53:48

Yes, they Can do that.
However, you might find it interesting that, sometime around the beginning of this year (I think), Sprint dumped over a thousand customers because they were calling and complaining too much about the service. (We got stuck paying a $147 penalty fee to get away from their horrible service-didn't complain enough!). The dumped customers were not forced to pay any penalty fees.
If you have nothing else to do, you might check and see what would make your company dump you! :lol:

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Re: Are you seriously considering defaulting on your debts..

Unread postby Ludi » Fri 26 Sep 2008, 10:58:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roccland', 'Y')ou will not have a choice. Do you really think you are going to be afforded THIRY YEARS to pay back your mortgage?

I don't have a thirty year mortgage. :)
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Re: Are you seriously considering defaulting on your debts..

Unread postby Ludi » Fri 26 Sep 2008, 11:00:02

Rocc has been giving us this advice for a couple of years now. I would like to know if anyone here has taken Rocc's advice and defaulted on their debts.

Has anyone here defaulted on their debts?
What has been your experience so far?
Do you think it was a good idea?

I just want to know the track record on this advice.
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Re: Are you seriously considering defaulting on your debts..

Unread postby Ludi » Fri 26 Sep 2008, 11:01:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'W')ow. You're really freaking out.

RE has admitted to posting exaggeratedly negative opinions, so don't take him too seriously. :)
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Re: Are you seriously considering defaulting on your debts..

Unread postby Eppo » Fri 26 Sep 2008, 11:04:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('beamofthewave', 'I') am going to continue paying on my credit cards and my mortgage as long as I have a job. That is where I am at, though the way some of these companies operate astound me. I called Qwest to get rid of some service so I could have a lower bill, they told me I could have the same service if I gave a 100 for a fee. I did and after 3 mos they raised my bill again so again I called them and they told me if I cancel I have to pay 200 in penalty. Can they do that? I signed nothing with any penalty notice if I quit early. They told me by paying my bill I agreed to this. Can they do that? They are now agreeing to provide 6 more mos of internet service and phone service at the lower price but the threat of 200 in penalty for early disconnect without me agreeing to that still annoys me.


Here in California the courts ruled against sprint and cell phone companies for charging early disconnects. They said the had to pay back tens of millions of dollars to those they charged and to stop harrasing those they are trying to collect from.

Sprint is currently trying to overturn the court ruling
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Re: Are you seriously considering defaulting on your debts..

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Fri 26 Sep 2008, 11:13:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'H')as anyone here defaulted on their debts?
What has been your experience so far?
Do you think it was a good idea? I just want to know the track record on this advice.

I declared chapter 7 about a year and a half ago. Really not a bad thing at all. You wouldn't want to do it if you have much in the way of assets. Defaulting without declaring bankruptcy isn't an option for most folks. You'd end up with creditors garnishing your wages, taking your car, etc. If you have a lot of debts and not a lot of property, then declaring bankruptcy is the way to go IMHO.
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Re: Are you seriously considering defaulting on your debts..

Unread postby Ludi » Fri 26 Sep 2008, 11:33:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', ' ')You wouldn't want to do it if you have much in the way of assets.


The thing is, Rocc seems to be advocating creating a doomstead and then defaulting. What he hasn't explained is how you manage to keep your doomstead after defaulting on your debts...
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Re: Are you seriously considering defaulting on your debts..

Unread postby Lumpy » Fri 26 Sep 2008, 11:37:07

Wow, it seems like a long time ago ... but I think it was maybe only about 6 months. Anyway, I posted somewhere on these boards that my husband and I were in disagreement about debt.

It was my position to use credit lines to buy everything we could think of that we might need for the long run ... seeds, long-term storage food, etc.

His position was "get out of debt".

Well, in the interim we ended up getting somewhat further into debt in order to get all the materials we needed to finish up the major projects around here -- converting the huge garage to a barn/shop with stalls and a loft, building a corral, etc.

Anyway, more than ever I now think I was and am right ... at least for us. Credit lines available today may be gone in the not too distant future. No, I don't think it's going to be tomorrow or over the weekend ... but within a few months is possible.

I want to use that money while it's still available to us to get us more ready for when it isn't. The point being I expect to stay employed -- and we will use my income to pay back debt, without needing much income to actually live on at that point -- growing our own meat, veggies and fruit as we increasingly are doing.

Anyway, just one way of looking at it.

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Re: Are you seriously considering defaulting on your debts..

Unread postby Ludi » Fri 26 Sep 2008, 11:43:19

But you haven't defaulted on those debts, have you, Lumpy?
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Re: Are you seriously considering defaulting on your debts..

Unread postby Pops » Fri 26 Sep 2008, 12:07:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roccland', 'A')ctually I make well over 6 figs (in the energy field)...and have a very high FICO.

I speak for the people cash...really bro...you should try it sometime.


No you aren't speaking for the people, you are exhorting truly worried and possibly gullible people to do something which could be very detrimental to their well being.
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Re: Are you seriously considering defaulting on your debts..

Unread postby vision-master » Fri 26 Sep 2008, 12:14:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roccland', 'A')ctually I make well over 6 figs (in the energy field)...and have a very high FICO.

I speak for the people cash...really bro...you should try it sometime.


No you aren't speaking for the people, you are exhorting truly worried and possibly gullible people to do something which could be very detrimental to their well being.


Heck, I don't want to end up in a FEMA camp.

GET OUT OF DEBT!
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Re: Are you seriously considering defaulting on your debts..

Unread postby Ludi » Fri 26 Sep 2008, 12:16:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '
')Heck, I don't want to end up in a FEMA camp.


aka debtors' prison.
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Re: Are you seriously considering defaulting on your debts..

Unread postby Ludi » Fri 26 Sep 2008, 12:36:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cbxer55', ' ')I signed my name to the deal, I will complete it to the best of my ability.


You don't think that's playing by some outdated rules?
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