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Re: Americans are too lazy to walk

Postby taizee » Wed 25 Jun 2008, 11:51:09

I grew up in suburban Dublin, Ireland and was lucky to have a safe place to play and could walk all over the neighborhood. My parents restricted TV - it was sh**ty anyway. My schools had very good exercise programs, too, and I think that has added to lifelong fitness. My sister, on the other hand, 11 years younger was spoiled more in what she could eat, by then my parents were more worried about her being outside the house, the school she went to didn't have sports fields (development had come along and built over my old school) She now has weight problems.

I think high activity in our early years is so important for lifelong health. How a town/city is built makes a difference. Walking to the local shops, to school, to a friends house. This should be normal.

Abnormal is the modern suburbs, that are even now in Europe. The grids of American cities are totally geared towards the motorized vehicle. Some of the bikeways are really nice, but you still have to take a car to get to them. I bike here in Boise, but have constantly to look over my shoulder to make sure that I can safely manouver.

I don't blame Americans for being lazy, well not all of them, they are living in a system of development that is out of control - the rest of the world isn't immune and is catching up.
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Re: Americans are too lazy to walk

Postby Wren » Wed 25 Jun 2008, 13:03:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hope_full', 'H')aving visited New York, Boston and Chicago (with good mass transit systems), I've observed that their poplace is much leaner. Getting out and walking - just a few blocks every day - is apparently an easy way to NOT GET OBESE.

The Midwest is awash in overweight people, partly because the area is so boring and the weather is so crummy and there's no place to go and nothing to do. Many little towns have no culture and folks just sit around and wait for the latest movie with chain saws and snakes to hit the local video rental store.



I just have to say... Chicago is in the midwest. And I used to live in the midwest (in a city) and now I live on the NW coast in a small town and the weather here REALLY SUCKS. It rains almost every dang day. And it's still cold enough out in June that we have to wear sweatshirts. In KC, MO we had music, art, culture, gooood restaraunts. And seasons. There is nothing to do here and there are a LOT of fat and RUDE people. At least the fatty's in the midwest are friendly.
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Re: Americans are too lazy to walk

Postby Kingcoal » Wed 25 Jun 2008, 13:26:12

When I used to work in Philly, I would walk a mile to the train station, get off at 8th and Market and walk another mile to work. On the way home, the reverse. At lunch, we would often walk over to Chinatown. In all, I was walking a good 4 to 5 miles per day. In my present job I walk around a lot in construction sites. A project manager I worked with on one site put a mileage counter on his belt and came up with about 7 miles everyday. I've had jobs that I drove to and sat in a cube all day. I got fat, gaining about 25 lbs. One of the main reasons I could never go back to being an office worker is the impact on my health. It's not natural to sit in front of a computer all day. It's tedious and wears you out mentally, which makes you tired and not wanting to work out.

Humans were designed from the ground up to walk. Our legs take up most of our bodies because we are designed to do a hell of a lot of walking. That's what we are; walkers. Having a person sit all day is like taking a fish out of the ocean and putting them in a tiny pot with water. They want to swim, that's what they do, it's what they are designed to do.
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Re: Americans are too lazy to walk

Postby sittinguy » Wed 25 Jun 2008, 13:33:36

Our nieghborhood bitched for a sidewalk for years. Finally a lady that was one of the first to live in our hood got hit and killed.

Soon after we saw some surveyers for side walks.

Almost 10 YEARS later they built the sidewalk, its been a year now and they still aren't done :(
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Re: Americans are too lazy to walk

Postby heroineworshipper » Wed 25 Jun 2008, 13:33:49

Most towns aren't designed for walking. There are few sidewalks & no easy street access from the apartments.
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Re: Americans are too lazy to walk

Postby Heineken » Wed 25 Jun 2008, 13:37:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Olaf', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joelcolorado', 'I') hear it all the time. I CANT ...well you can START. It is one step at a time. I KNOW. I hate to excercise. BORING and HARD. and WHINING>

I do not know why we are so opposed to excercise. But we are. We have escalators to go up one flight of stairs, elevators for more, drive to the fast food place, drive thru so we dont have to walk in, ride, ride, ride. Sad really.

I am a product of that generation dont get me wrong. One in 4 ppl with diabetes in America now. GOOD LORD> Most due to lifestyle choices. Cant keep our mouths shut.

I sit down in the evenings after supper and want a snack. WHATS with that? Cant be hungry. I live on a shady curvy street and ppl walk here a lot. Good to see and at least they are trying.

Join a gym, get a trainer and get started. TURN off the television, plant a garden or walk in the evenings. MOVE YOUR ASS ppl.


Just thought I'd point out this study which shows 1 in 12 with diabetes in U.S., not 1 in 4.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/DiabetesNe ... id=5235214

1 in 12 is alarming enough either way.

Olaf


Olaf, the report I heard on the network TV news last night (NBC or ABC, I don't rememeber which) said that 1 in 4 Americans have either diabetes or a pre-diabetic condition that puts them at very high risk of getting the actual disease.

Joel, I understand and share some of your frustrations and amazements concerning our fellow fat ugly slob Americans. But there are so many many many exceptions. Also, I wouldn't idolize the Europeans too much. I lived there for five years. Europeans can be vain, arrogant, selfish, and pretty disgusting themselves.

Let's hope that America will again become a place we can be proud of someday. The first step is to get rid of Bush, and that is happening. Even McCain would be a feel-good president next to the monster Bush. Also, there is a rising awareness in this country about all sorts of good things---exercise, better diet, kindness to animals, the environment, etc. These are hopeful signs, don't you agree?

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Re: Americans are too lazy to walk

Postby Ludi » Wed 25 Jun 2008, 13:42:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', '
')I am intensely critical of America but I love the place and it's my home.
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Re: Americans are too lazy to walk

Postby emersonbiggins » Wed 25 Jun 2008, 13:45:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', '
')I am intensely critical of America but I love the place and it's my home.


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Re: Americans are too lazy to walk

Postby seldom_seen » Wed 25 Jun 2008, 13:52:07

I walk a simple 25 minutes to and from work. My co-workers think I am some sort of masochistic iron man triathlete.
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Re: Americans are too lazy to walk

Postby seldom_seen » Wed 25 Jun 2008, 13:53:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'I') am intensely critical of America but I love the place and it's my home.

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Re: Americans are too lazy to walk

Postby jlw61 » Wed 25 Jun 2008, 13:56:06

One summer I walked to work nearly every day. Ever walk to work in a suit and tie? Thanks, but I don't have that much money for dry cleaning.

Ever walk to work in 90+ degree weather? If the office doesn't have a locker room then you stink a lot.

Ever walk to work through a high crime area? No thanks, I'd put the miles onto my car instead.

Walking in the city takes up to an hour to go 3 miles (you have to stop for stop lights also). So that's 2 hours out of a person's day. A lot of people don't have those extra hours. Additonally, if you have kids, you can and do need to leave unexpectidly from time to time.

Do I walk? Sure, I put in several miles each week and I also use my bicycle on my time. Sorry, but going to/from work is not the time to be walking. I've lost over a hundred pounds in about a year and have another 50 to go.

My secret? I became PO aware and realized the fertilizer is moving towards the air circulation device. An impending disaster focuses one's energy, so don't worry, because more than likely in less than a decade we'll be a nation of skinny people walking alot once again.
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Re: Americans are too lazy to walk

Postby Peepers » Wed 25 Jun 2008, 14:00:15

Landmass doesn't equal sprawl. See China and Russia. Even Canadian cities are more densely developed than their American counterparts. What did it for America was its early discovery and use of oil in large quantities, its "distrust government at all costs" approach to everything including urban planning, its escaping of virtually all damage during World War II, and the early lobbying power which the automobile, oil and highway interests amassed early on in America.

But I think this says it all more succinctly.....

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Re: Americans are too lazy to walk

Postby Wren » Wed 25 Jun 2008, 15:11:18

Heineken, your entire last post on this thread was right on IMO. Although, I don't think there's much to feel good about John McCain! :)
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Re: Americans are too lazy to walk

Postby heroineworshipper » Wed 25 Jun 2008, 15:11:44

The other reason is jobs in US have to be location based to pay the amount of money it takes for housing. You're basically paid to be in an inaccessible location. Jobs which don't have to be in an inaccessible location are done in Asia.
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Re: Americans are too lazy to walk

Postby Heineken » Wed 25 Jun 2008, 18:24:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Wren', 'H')eineken, your entire last post on this thread was right on IMO. Although, I don't think there's much to feel good about John McCain! :)


I agree that McCain presents serious problems, but next to Bush he's an angel. At least he has an ounce or two of integrity.
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Re: Americans are too lazy to walk

Postby Wren » Wed 25 Jun 2008, 19:03:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Wren', 'H')eineken, your entire last post on this thread was right on IMO. Although, I don't think there's much to feel good about John McCain! :)


I agree that McCain presents serious problems, but next to Bush he's an angel. At least he has an ounce or two of integrity.


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Re: Americans are too lazy to walk

Postby Pretorian » Wed 25 Jun 2008, 21:50:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jlw61', 'D')o I walk? Sure, I put in several miles each week and I also use my bicycle on my time. Sorry, but going to/from work is not the time to be walking. I've lost over a hundred pounds in about a year and have another 50 to go.


You' ve lost 100 pounds? What about loose skin issues?
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Re: Americans are too lazy to walk

Postby Heineken » Wed 25 Jun 2008, 23:55:48

That remark seems unkind, Pretorian, but it's possible you didn't mean it that way.
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Re: Americans are too lazy to walk

Postby alokin » Thu 26 Jun 2008, 03:33:23

Austalia is not better. The problem is mainly not education. Here in Australia i do have a car and cycle only a bit and walk forth and back to school kindi and so on. But in Germany I had no car used the bike for everything, walked and had some kilos less.

It is more a problem of unsuitable urban planning.Redidential roads often ends nowhere and there are only the main roads leading to somewhere. Even if there are sidewalks (and they are very narrow here) it is just no fun riding your bike along major roads. But most often there are motorways or similar big roads were there is simply no sidewalk and it is to dangerous to ride your bike there.
In Europe we have more a grid or a similar system. In my town, which is very hilly, there are many stairs which are shortcuts from one road to the other.

I think in Australia they should buy back strips of bckyards to construct connecting footpathes between the "wormy" formed residential roads. There should be much more crossing for the major roads (but the latter may be less important in the coming years).

Once people get used that going somewhere is driving the result are weird, that people use their cars even for five or ten minutes walk. And the kids are not used to walk at all.
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