[yesplease]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Rabbit', 'T')hat's not the way it works. Oil that can't be moved out from the well is essentially taken off the market. That increases the market forces on other suppliers that actually can deliver to the US.

[WisJim]

Enbridge has been having pipeline problems in Minnesota and Wisconsin all year:
http://www.reuters.com/article/governme ... 8020071129

Info about the proposed expansion of the Murphy refinery in Superior, with a map showing some of the pipeline involved in the Clearbrook fire:
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/09 ... l_seek.php

Another recent Reuters story:
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCr ... SN29397510

[Rabbit]

Yes I understand that, but without the pipeline, one or more wells won't be able to pump oil much longer. All of the major lines moving oil from north to south are at or near capacity. Thus there is no other practical route at this time. They have already been planning additional lines as the current lines are maxed out, even at the higher pressures they have been using lately.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he disruption they are referring to was at an oil pipeline not a well.

[yesplease]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Rabbit', 'Y')es I understand that, but without the pipeline, one or more wells won't be able to pump oil much longer.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dhfenton', 'I')'ve been following the posts on this article, and quite frankly, I can't believe how quickly you guys have tried to play a fairly minor incident into an oil supply disaster. Did any of you really read the article. You had one pipeline damaged, and three still intact. Of the three shut down temporarily, two went back online very quickly, and the third is probably back on line already too. And 1/9 of the US supply was a figure that applied only for a few hours, and you guys are trying to play in as a major disruption. 1/9 annually would be a big deal. 1/9 divided by 365 (one days supply) is about 3/10 of a percent. That's not a major disruption, that's blip on the radar. And, considering that it will be made up as oil is re-routed through the three remaining pipelines, the real annual effect is zero percent for all intents and purposes.

I joined this forum a few years back, and at first I thought the posts where very rational; but lately, I find that the doomers are getting very impatient and tend to jump on any little incident as proof of the end. The more irrational rants about oil supply problems I hear, the less credibility I think this forum has. Maybe its time to reel it in a bit, and really analyze the big picture before we start speaking of the end times. It would certainly lend more credibility to the Peak Oil argument.

[DantesPeak]

[Rabbit]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')nly if there is no way to store the oil on site.

[vision-master]

Do you peeps only believe what you want? It's a non-event, no biggie, a blip on the radar screen, move on..................

[Sys1]

Oh my god, i worked all day long, i'm tired, and just read the whole thread. That's the most ridiculous thing i've ever seen over there. Hopefully, this kind of thread didn't exist when i visited this site for the first time, or i could be now owning a SUV and many debts.

Please be prudent before posting something supposed to prove imminent apocalypse!
Yes, you will have your apocalypse movie on big 3d screen soon staring you in mad max, but not today!
Good night, i got to sleep...

[Micki]

Cut the dommers some slack. They reacted no differently from the traders who for a while drove up oil price $5.
And the news sure sounded bad at first.

[frankthetank]

Is this tar sands oil?

[DantesPeak]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', 'I')s this tar sands oil?

[JohnLudi]

Someone asked earlier in this thread what gas prices where like in Chicago. The gas station across the street from where I catch the bus was $3.39 for regular unleaded.

That is not all that unusual though, for recent prices...we have a relatively large tax on gas in the city.

[shortonoil]

This pipe moves $5.9 million worth of oil per hour. It will get fixed - and real quick!

[green_achers]

When I read the first page of this thread this morning, I was getting ready for a out of town trip. My thought was, this probably isn't the event they're projecting, but why not treat it like a drill?

So I went into town and topped off the truck, and filled a couple of gas cans while I was at it. I have a gas-powered tractor, so it's not that unusual for me, I just thought I would want to be holding as a bit more gas if prices spike in the next few days.

[TheDude]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sys1', 'O')h my god, i worked all day long, i'm tired, and just read the whole thread. That's the most ridiculous thing i've ever seen over there. Hopefully, this kind of thread didn't exist when i visited this site for the first time, or i could be now owning a SUV and many debts.

Please be prudent before posting something supposed to prove imminent apocalypse!
Yes, you will have your apocalypse movie on big 3d screen soon staring you in mad max, but not today!
Good night, i got to sleep...

[steam_cannon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dhfenton', 'I') joined this forum a few years back, and at first I thought the posts where very rational; but lately, I find that the doomers are getting very impatient and tend to jump on any little incident as proof of the end...

[JJ]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('steam_cannon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dhfenton', 'I') joined this forum a few years back, and at first I thought the posts where very rational; but lately, I find that the doomers are getting very impatient and tend to jump on any little incident as proof of the end...

[Revi]

I just found this on the Archdruid Report. I have to agree with Greer. Even if this blown pipeline scare turns out to be nothing, it's time to get ready. It's coming soon. It's lifeboat time:

http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/

[Revi]

I read about the pipeline explosion this morning and started to think about our oil situation. I think some good has come out of this oil scare. I called up our oil dealer and we're going to be put on automatic fill up. We had to call every time the tank was down, but now I think I'd like to keep the tank full, just in case. The price is up. We are going to get around 100 gallons, but it's going to cost a lot more than last year.

So, even if this turns out to be nothing it got me thinking about our oil situation. If we have a full tank we can make it through the winter if we have the woodstove going most nights.