[RepublicanfromEngland]

Hi there,

I wanted to get some views, does anyone think that a non conformist head of state could ever be elected? And I don't mean independent of political party.

I'm mean as in ascetics. Could there ever be a subculture group candidate like more alternative?

Or just a casually dressed individual. The thought of somebody like Terry Jones who once wore that leather jacket, could anybody imagine that?

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RepublicanfromEngland', 'H')i there,

I wanted to get some views, does anyone think that a non conformist head of state could ever be elected? And I don't mean independent of political party.

I'm mean as in ascetics. Could there ever be a subculture group candidate like more alternative?

Or just a casually dressed individual. The thought of somebody like Terry Jones who once wore that leather jacket, could anybody imagine that?

[Newfie]

http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/ ... ectability

An interesting article on why we vote for this one or that.

My Wife and I both believe that HRC uses a lot of Botox for the debates. This research could explain why.

One wonders if you could not "design" the perfect electable candidate? Get all the correct facial features, plus the right kind of vocal pitch, and you have someone who will win.

Bill Clinton probably came pretty close.

All this is to say who we vote for is less about issues than we think. It's about primal emotional responses. THATA why HRC isn't 50 points ahead, something about her turns people off. But they can also be turned on.

[Subjectivist]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'h')ttp://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/on-the-face-of-it-the-psychology-of-electability

An interesting article on why we vote for this one or that.

My Wife and I both believe that HRC uses a lot of Botox for the debates. This research could explain why.

One wonders if you could not "design" the perfect electable candidate? Get all the correct facial features, plus the right kind of vocal pitch, and you have someone who will win.

Bill Clinton probably came pretty close.

All this is to say who we vote for is less about issues than we think. It's about primal emotional responses. THATA why HRC isn't 50 points ahead, something about her turns people off. But they can also be turned on.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RepublicanfromEngland', 'I') wanted to get some views, does anyone think that a non conformist head of state could ever be elected? And I don't mean independent of political party.

I'm mean as in ascetics. Could there ever be a subculture group candidate like more alternative?

Or just a casually dressed individual. The thought of somebody like Terry Jones who once wore that leather jacket, could anybody imagine that?

[Subjectivist]

We get it six, you live to be on the band wagon. We don't need to read it in every thread on Peakoil.

[sparky]

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In this day and age , the "perfect "candidate would be someone from the entertainment industry .
either a chat show host for handling the cameras or an established star of sufficient yumminess

can you seriously imagine anyone standing against , let's say , George Clooney ?

the US doesn't have a democracy , it has a media circus where the people are taken out on a leash every four years
to cheer the clowns and the acrobats

this is what a non conformist president might looks like ,
Jose Mujica , guerilla leader , emprisonned for thirteen years in harsh conditions , escaped twice
became a pragmatic politician ,
gave his salary to unwed mothers and live in a very modest lifestyle , read his quotes , it's well worth it
http://all-that-is-interesting.com/jose ... -quotes#27

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GX6a2WEA1Q

[RepublicanfromEngland]

I do know of the leader from South America, but that is in a country that doesn't matter.

I'm referring to western nations since that is where the action is, the economies.

When I also mean non conformist, yes there is that Independent position. But generally the world of politics is usually formal. For example the Irish president, is an old man, and he's never a plain looking guy. He's been in politics all his life. The President doesn't have power, so it isn't a political role like in the States.

Years ago, people may of queried the idea of a subculture candidate such as goth? I don't know if any western nation would ever vote in a goth, with the look too.

[Subjectivist]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RepublicanfromEngland', 'I') do know of the leader from South America, but that is in a country that doesn't matter.

I'm referring to western nations since that is where the action is, the economies.

When I also mean non conformist, yes there is that Independent position. But generally the world of politics is usually formal. For example the Irish president, is an old man, and he's never a plain looking guy. He's been in politics all his life. The President doesn't have power, so it isn't a political role like in the States.

Years ago, people may of queried the idea of a subculture candidate such as goth? I don't know if any western nation would ever vote in a goth, with the look too.

[RepublicanfromEngland]

Perhaps in local government, even a leadership position?

Can America ever elect a goth president? Sort of LOL. The land of the free...

[sparky]

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There was teddy Roosevelt , a very colorful guy ,the teddy bear was invented for him by his opponents
made from rag and sawdust for a few cents , the tag was " I'm Teddy and I'm not worth much "

Was a cow boy ,police commissioner of New York , Got a Nobel prize , started a couple of wars , busted Standard Oil , started the Panama canal and send the US Navy fleet on a world tour just to upset the British
the reception in Australia was so enthusiastic a ferry overturned with the passengers rushing on the same side to cheer the "great white fleet " dozens drowned .

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sparky', '.')
There was teddy Roosevelt , a very colorful guy ,the teddy bear was invented for him by his opponents
made from rag and sawdust for a few cents , the tag was " I'm Teddy and I'm not worth much "

Was a cow boy ,police commissioner of New York , Got a Nobel prize , started a couple of wars , busted Standard Oil , started the Panama canal and send the US Navy fleet on a world tour just to upset the British
the reception in Australia was so enthusiastic a ferry overturned with the passengers rushing on the same side to cheer the "great white fleet " dozens drowned .

[sparky]

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Tanada , you are right of course but I like to paint a picture in the abstract style and with a broad brush