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Re: A 35 hour Workweek would create Millions of Jobs

Unread postby AgentR11 » Thu 06 Oct 2011, 10:19:51

I wonder if Pj's willing to hop in a truck in Mogadishu and drive to the interior without a permission slip from one of the anointed Emperors in East Africa...
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Re: A 35 hour Workweek would create Millions of Jobs

Unread postby prajeshbhat » Thu 06 Oct 2011, 10:27:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'A')s for immigration, please name me one civilized or even a third-world country that will let you in because you are young.

Young, desperate, poor and will work cheap. That's is the standard description of most Mexican immigrants in USA. They are let in very easily. So easily that the Americans are now scared of losing their jobs(and country) to them.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', 'I')'d also like some examples of these 70 yr old Emperors with at least a dozen genetic children. I suspect your typical cosmetically pleasing sperm donor has a vastly higher propagation rate, no? In fact, I'd suggest that the modern trend is to minimize child count while maximizing the coitus count.

Yeah that's right. Those who work their way to the top are so old by the time they get there, there is little hope for them to procreate anyway. Doesn't mean they stop trying. Look at Silvio Berlusconi.
Those who are born into wealth, they do get laid a lot. Probably have illegitimate offspring too. But there are many ways of contraception these days. Thank god for that...
The cosmetically pleasing sperm donors have short shelf lives. After a certain age it is hard to take them seriously unless they have social status.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'T')hing is, when the game changes, different folks often have 'the edge'. A reshuffle of power deck is already well underway.

The question is will there be enough resources left for the rank and file to survive on them?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'I')f you don't mind me asking, why don't YOU do it?

I try to do my part. I am a donor for Unicef. I just don't think my salary will feed 500 million people. But there are a lot of people who restrict themselves to a bare minimum in order to serve the destitute( I am not one of them, but there are a lot of altruists out there). Why? It just gives them a sense of satisfaction I guess. Part of being human.
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Re: A 35 hour Workweek would create Millions of Jobs

Unread postby Pretorian » Thu 06 Oct 2011, 10:30:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', '
')I'd also like some examples of these 70 yr old Emperors with at least a dozen genetic children. I suspect your typical cosmetically pleasing sperm donor has a vastly higher propagation rate, no? In fact, I'd suggest that the modern trend is to minimize child count while maximizing the coitus count. To successfully hand off your empire you need to have very few kids, minimizing sources of estate conflict


Well , and why would they maximize the coitus count then?
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Re: A 35 hour Workweek would create Millions of Jobs

Unread postby prajeshbhat » Thu 06 Oct 2011, 10:41:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'W')ell , and why would they maximize the coitus count then?

Do you really need a logical reason to maximize the coitus count?
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Re: A 35 hour Workweek would create Millions of Jobs

Unread postby Pretorian » Thu 06 Oct 2011, 10:41:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('prajeshbhat', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'A')s for immigration, please name me one civilized or even a third-world country that will let you in because you are young.


Young, desperate, poor and will work cheap. That's is the standard description of most Mexican immigrants in USA. They are let in very easily. So easily that the Americans are now scared of losing their jobs(and country) to them.



Here http://www.maps.google.com please point me to the spot where Mexicans are let in easily. I can guarantee you that for the $ 2000 that any Mexican will pay you for that info you can buy a hell of a lot of wheat for the starving africans. If you will corner the market at $1500 you will probably be able to feed all 500 million for at least a month, or whenever their bananas will be ripe again.
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Re: A 35 hour Workweek would create Millions of Jobs

Unread postby prajeshbhat » Thu 06 Oct 2011, 10:49:59

Then how come there is such a huge immigration debate going on in USA? The conservatives can't stop complaining about the 11-13 million illegal immigrants living in USA right now.
Just find the holes in those ridiculously long and expensive walls the American government has built to stop the immigrants. That's your spot. The immigrants know that already. Nobody is going to pay you for that information.
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Re: A 35 hour Workweek would create Millions of Jobs

Unread postby Pretorian » Thu 06 Oct 2011, 11:43:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('prajeshbhat', '
')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'I')f you don't mind me asking, why don't YOU do it?


I try to do my part. I am a donor for Unicef. I just don't think my salary will feed 500 million people. But there are a lot of people who restrict themselves to a bare minimum in order to serve the destitute( I am not one of them, but there are a lot of altruists out there).


Well i am glad to know that you are not an altruist.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('prajeshbhat', 'W')hy? It just gives them a sense of satisfaction I guess. Part of being human.


Would you agree then , that feeding starving africans should be left to those who actually get off from it, and those who don't should not have their wallets raped by these do-gooders?
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Re: A 35 hour Workweek would create Millions of Jobs

Unread postby Pretorian » Thu 06 Oct 2011, 11:49:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('prajeshbhat', 'T')hen how come there is such a huge immigration debate going on in USA? The conservatives can't stop complaining about the 11-13 million illegal immigrants living in USA right now.
Just find the holes in those ridiculously long and expensive walls the American government has built to stop the immigrants. That's your spot. The immigrants know that already. Nobody is going to pay you for that information.



Stop the off-top, will ya? Can you name me a country that allows immigration of young people, or not?
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Re: A 35 hour Workweek would create Millions of Jobs

Unread postby prajeshbhat » Thu 06 Oct 2011, 11:51:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'S')top the off-top, will ya? Can you name me a country that allows immigration of young people, or not?


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When i think about it, every country has some or the other provision for immigration.
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Re: A 35 hour Workweek would create Millions of Jobs

Unread postby Pretorian » Thu 06 Oct 2011, 12:12:59

You are wrong. There is no country in the world that will accept a young man or a woman as an immigrant because they are young.
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Re: A 35 hour Workweek would create Millions of Jobs

Unread postby prajeshbhat » Thu 06 Oct 2011, 12:23:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '
')Would you agree then , that feeding starving africans should be left to those who actually get off from it, and those who don't should not have their wallets raped by these do-gooders?


Oh yeah. The altruists are raping your wallet. [smilie=5squeeze.gif] [smilie=5help.gif]

If that was the case why don't you sue the social workers? That would be truly heroic. May be we should also ban the police and the law enforcement. Why do we need these useless services? Let the people defend their own property.

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Re: A 35 hour Workweek would create Millions of Jobs

Unread postby prajeshbhat » Thu 06 Oct 2011, 12:31:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'Y')ou are wrong. There is no country in the world that will accept a young man or a woman as an immigrant because they are young.


Forget the young part. Most OECD countries do accept immigrants. Mostly as a replacement for the ageing workforce.
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Re: A 35 hour Workweek would create Millions of Jobs

Unread postby Pretorian » Thu 06 Oct 2011, 13:45:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('prajeshbhat', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '
')Would you agree then , that feeding starving africans should be left to those who actually get off from it, and those who don't should not have their wallets raped by these do-gooders?


Oh yeah. The altruists are raping your wallet. [smilie=5squeeze.gif] [smilie=5help.gif]

If that was the case why don't you sue the social workers? That would be truly heroic. May be we should also ban the police and the law enforcement. Why do we need these useless services? Let the people defend their own property.

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Did I say anything about police and law enforcement? You know, if you can't answer the question, don't. And what egoism got to do with anything? Can you fathom the idea that not everybody is getting off by feeding africans or whomever? You do, so you feed them. Just because you will get off twice as hard if you do your thingy at my cost isn't a good enough reason for me.
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Re: A 35 hour Workweek would create Millions of Jobs

Unread postby Newfie » Thu 06 Oct 2011, 21:13:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('prajeshbhat', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'B')ut we are diverging from the central theme about the overall value of sharing the work.


The problem is that work is a not done for the sake of feeding people or for making this world a better place or whatever the masters tell us the purpose of work is. After 100000 years of progress the world is still a dangerous place and most people are hungry.

What we call work is just a means for the masters of the existing dominant system to expand their empires. The objective is to let the men at the top of the hierarchy get laid as frequently as possible. The entire human potential is employed for the sole purpose that a few 70 somethings in the top 0.001% can keep trying to spread their genes around. Which is tragic because their balls are all shriveled up already. And they are not particularly bright either. Most of them were just born into wealth.


Perhaps a little crude but too the point and mostly correct.

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Re: A 35 hour Workweek would create Millions of Jobs

Unread postby prajeshbhat » Thu 06 Oct 2011, 22:34:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'D')id I say anything about police and law enforcement? You know, if you can't answer the question, don't. And what egoism got to do with anything? Can you fathom the idea that not everybody is getting off by feeding africans or whomever? You do, so you feed them. Just because you will get off twice as hard if you do your thingy at my cost isn't a good enough reason for me.


I presume you were referring to the government programs to help the poor paid for by the taxpayer. Correct me if I am wrong.
So I am drawing an analogy. The same government also provides the police and law enforcement. Maybe we should cut them too. Why should tax payer care abut your beloved property. Maybe they should leave you to fend for yourself.
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Re: A 35 hour Workweek would create Millions of Jobs

Unread postby Pretorian » Fri 07 Oct 2011, 01:15:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('prajeshbhat', ' ') $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'D')id I say anything about police and law enforcement? You know, if you can't answer the question, don't. And what egoism got to do with anything? Can you fathom the idea that not everybody is getting off by feeding africans or whomever? You do, so you feed them. Just because you will get off twice as hard if you do your thingy at my cost isn't a good enough reason for me.


I presume you were referring to the government programs to help the poor paid for by the taxpayer. Correct me if I am wrong.

I thought we were talking about "starving africans"? Personally I do not mind feeding the local poor, in order to save money on law enforcement of course. Needless to say, The Food Stamps program is a bit too extravagant, considering that there are so many starving africans out there. It's just improper to handle some bum enough money to buy 10, 15 pounds of chicken a day when there are children dying in Africa. I think food stamps should be replaced with actual food-- cooked rice , corn/wheat gruel, beans on holidays. And the distribution centers should be far, far away from those who are sponsoring these orgies. Far enough for the poor to move close by.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('prajeshbhat', ' ') So I am drawing an analogy. The same government also provides the police and law enforcement. Maybe we should cut them too. Why should tax payer care abut your beloved property. Maybe they should leave you to fend for yourself.


There is no analogy. I benefit from the presence of police and law enforcement. Obviously, sometimes there are too many police officers in one place, and in some other place they are so few that there is no use for them whatsoever. But these are details. And I am to discover yet how I am benefiting from feeding the starving africans. So far the only results of feeding starving africans were MORE starving africans and LESS wildlife around them.
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Re: A 35 hour Workweek would create Millions of Jobs

Unread postby prajeshbhat » Fri 07 Oct 2011, 01:53:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'I') thought we were talking about "starving africans"? Personally I do not mind feeding the local poor,

I thought you are from South Africa.
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Re: A 35 hour Workweek would create Millions of Jobs

Unread postby Pretorian » Fri 07 Oct 2011, 02:29:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('prajeshbhat', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'I') thought we were talking about "starving africans"? Personally I do not mind feeding the local poor,

I thought you are from South Africa.


As a friendo of mine is saying, it was a very long time ago, and not true. Anyway, despite of all efforts of South Africa's government famine isn't anywhere near, and Zimbabwe is fine too, so nobody is starving in South Africa . Your 500 million figure is BS, by the way.
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Re: A 35 hour Workweek would create Millions of Jobs

Unread postby prajeshbhat » Fri 07 Oct 2011, 09:50:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'A')nyway, despite of all efforts of South Africa's government famine isn't anywhere near, and Zimbabwe is fine too


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Re: A 35 hour Workweek would create Millions of Jobs

Unread postby Pretorian » Fri 07 Oct 2011, 10:25:39

And what that photo is supposed to mean? You have a proof that it was made in Zimbabwe, recently? You have a proof that this person is a common Zimbabwean, with no mental or other issues? Zimbabwe will never be a Rhodesia again, that's for sure, nevertheless it does not mean it is about to starve. Miners in Zimbabwe are making $200-250 per month and never cease to complain , so obviously they don't go hungry.

Here is the site for you to keep up with Zimbabwe http://www.zimbabwesituation.com/
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