[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', ' ')political paralysis....

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', 'N')onsense. If the Republicans win, the average American will be kicked to the gutter.

[EnergyUnlimited]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', ' ')political paralysis....

[Mesuge]

Ludi, that would be rather unfair, I've got a couple of friends, even relatives with one or both feets stateside. However, the simple fact is that the U.S. public last "pitchfork" moment was right after Nov/22/63 or perhaps five years later, hm and they just rolled over like ultra lama-sheep. Now, several additional chapters of horrors after that, and it's beyond repair, don't kid yourself there are any rights and privilliges left in the current system.
Once the mirage aka wheels of consumerism (paid by the rest of the world) fall off, it will show its true ugly face, a south american style neofeudal dictatorship. Can't wait when the whores like Huffington will have to seek political asyleum from gloves off U.S. nazis in places like Venezuela

[Fishman]

Vts
You assume the Dems in the Senate will hold as strong a line as the Republicans did the last two years. Won't happen. They will see the writing on the wall from this election, vote WITH Republicans in the Senate on several occasions in the next two years, overcoming any Obama veto. This ball is in play.
Poor Cid, the Democrats and especially the progressive movement hitched themselves to the least experienced politician to hold the presidency in over a hundred years. They would have been so much better off with Hilleary. Now they are derailed, the conservative right is politically active as no time in the last 50 years. White guilt has been cured almost enmass, conservative women and african-americans abound. Obama, at least for the Democrats future, is the WORST president possible, enjoy.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Mesuge', ' ')don't kid yourself there are any rights and privilliges left in the current system.:

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fishman', ' ')They will see the writing on the wall from this election, vote WITH Republicans in the Senate on several occasions in the next two years, overcoming any Obama veto.

[Fishman]

Or Ludi, since progressives make up such a small part of the electorate, and disappointment in Obama extends far more than whether he's right, middle, or left, any politician with any sense will leave him high and dry.

"Because they actually don't care to pay attention to what progressives actually say and think" Actually, I think most have paid attention, listened to the progressives, and realized "oh, s**t, these guys are crazy"

[PrestonSturges]

Personally, I'm looking forward to telling each of my neighbors that "repealing Obamacare" will mean that each of them will be called upon to sacrafice the life of a child on the altar of ideological purity, since any of their children that has asthma, autism, dyslexia, allergies, or anything else will never get medical insurance.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'P')ersonally, I'm looking forward to telling each of my neighbors that "repealing Obamacare" will mean that each of them will be called upon to sacrafice the life of a child on the altar of ideological purity, since any of their children that has asthma, autism, dyslexia, allergies, or anything else will never get medical insurance.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fishman', ' ')Actually, I think most have paid attention, listened to the progressives, and realized "oh, s**t, these guys are crazy"

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fishman', 'd')isappointment in Obama extends far more than whether he's right, middle, or left,

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fishman', 'V')ts
You assume the Dems in the Senate will hold as strong a line as the Republicans did the last two years. Won't happen. They will see the writing on the wall from this election, vote WITH Republicans in the Senate on several occasions in the next two years, overcoming any Obama veto. ......White guilt has been cured almost enmass, conservative women and african-americans abound. Obama, at least for the Democrats future, is the WORST president possible, enjoy.

[EnergyUnlimited]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'P')ersonally, I'm looking forward to telling each of my neighbors that "repealing Obamacare" will mean that each of them will be called upon to sacrafice the life of a child on the altar of ideological purity, since any of their children that has asthma, autism, dyslexia, allergies, or anything else will never get medical insurance.

[Mesuge]

Guys, are you for real, do you mean it that Obama is a progressive Democrat?
Since when? His precareer years in "deep" establishment thinktanks and fake community leadership bio? The voting for the wars, toiletpaperization of constitution, or perhaps since extending the Bush wars and sucking up to the junta?

Or did you just hear it on the network-ed TV?

This is getting crazy
I guess this planet is really pregnant for a change, what about try it for next couple of hundred mil years with different primates on the top of the food chain or rather any other species. The humans seem utterly beyond self-repair each day.

[Cid_Yama]

It appears that much of the change in seats had to do with trading out ConservaDems for actual Republicans.

No big loss.

Democrats keep the Senate, so net result is more of the same.

[mattduke]

If they voted for the Iraq war, they should be out, don't you agree?

[Cid_Yama]

That would decimate the Republicans, besides that vote was based on the Bush Administration's lies about WMD.

We at Peak Oil are well aware of why we are really there. That being, to ensure our supply of dwindling reserves.

It's not a nice world out there. And it will get worse in a world of declining resources.

It's no place for the simple minded.

[mattduke]

The Republicans should be out. The Dems were duped by GW? You are in favor of the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan? Let's have some intellectual honesty.

[Cid_Yama]

1. Global Warming is real and the situation far worse than the general population knows.

2. I'm a realist. I know what will be done under the circumstances that prevail.

We all would prefer to live in a different world, but this is the one we have, and to pretend it is anything other than what it is, is detrimental to long term survival.

Like I said, no place for the simple minded.