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Re: $2 Daydreams

Unread postby Pops » Fri 08 Jan 2016, 11:00:01

woo-whoo vt!

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It surprises me how scared some people are of stuff, I'd have never considered hiring security, LOL. I sorta like where we are but I'd certainly not be staying here. The point of winning for me wouldn't be to just pay my bills (I don't have any) or buy more stuff (I've already had most anything I really wanted) or be a fat cat where I already am, but to try out things and places I wouldn't get the chance to try otherwise.

I was thinking yesterday it might be fun to travel a little, just to see some completely different country; rainforest, really big desert, tiny isle. But I really dislike the touristy bit so that would get old.

I'm really a stay at home guy, so maybe I'd buy 5 or 6, here and there; Tipperary, Timbuktu, Tokyo. Buy a place, not in a touristy, resort kind of place, but just a regular working class place and live like the natives do. Stay a year or two just for the experience then go live somewhere else. Try someplace very remote, someplace very metropolitan, someplace very old, someplace very new.


I have had the recurring co-op fantasy for a long while, tho. Running off and starting a commune has been a recurring theme here and other cyber places I've hung out at but usually with folks who really haven't the wherewithal to actually buy in. Not really like the hippy communes, more like a house with a homeowners association that provides fiber to the front door and a big farm rather than a clubhouse and community pool. Ag is secondary (for now) and "telecommuting" is the main export. Butchering chickens and milking cows is an amenity, lol

But hey, suspension of disbelief is key to any fantasy!
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Re: $2 Daydreams

Unread postby AgentR11 » Fri 08 Jan 2016, 11:10:18

I've never bought a lottery ticket, and likely never will. However, a certain relative of mine is certainly a gambler, and once bought some lottery tickets as gift. I didn't really approve, but I took them in, scratched em off and claimed my $4 prize. I put it on the gasoline bill, and that was that.

If I'd won millions? Easy nuff.
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Re: $2 Daydreams

Unread postby Tanada » Fri 08 Jan 2016, 11:26:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', 'D')oubled my dreams by buying a $4.00 ticket. Guy in front of me in line spent $50.
I've always called the lottery the "Stupidity tax" as the stupider you are the more you pay. I try to keep payments low but for $400 million take home a little bit comes due.
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I always find that amusing, your odds of winning with 1 ticket is in the Billions, your odds of winning with 10 tickets is still Billions to one, your odds of winning with 1000 tickets is something like 75,000,000 to 1. IOW you have to have 1 ticket to win, but each additional ticket is only a tiny incremental increase in your odds of winning. To substantially increase your chance of winning you would have to spend hundreds of millions, and the average pot is a lot smaller than that.
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Re: $2 Daydreams

Unread postby Pops » Fri 08 Jan 2016, 11:59:42

I think it is about 300mil to one, otherwise the prize would be in the billions every time.

But yeah, instead of 1 chance in 300mil, 2 tickets gets you down to 2 chances in 300 million.
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Re: $2 Daydreams

Unread postby Cog » Fri 08 Jan 2016, 13:12:34

Even this capitalist pig, who knows the horrible odds. bought a ticket today. I'm pretty sure there are some conservative charities that could use my help.
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Re: $2 Daydreams

Unread postby Newfie » Fri 08 Jan 2016, 19:28:58

IN that case I can become VERY conservative and very needy!
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Re: $2 Daydreams

Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Fri 08 Jan 2016, 21:17:41

Maybe a conservative charity that gives guns to the poor or puts pin pricks in condoms destined for the 3rd world ?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/03/31/gr ... -poor.html
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Re: $2 Daydreams

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Fri 08 Jan 2016, 21:23:47

I went through the actual math back in my school days so I am aware of how bad the odds are from one ticket or thousands. But as Pops said in the first post it is a daydream for $2.00 and being a big dreamer I bought two of them.
Now go away while I dream about the nubile pretty Tahitian that wants to chat with me on the beach.
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Re: $2 Daydreams

Unread postby Oneaboveall » Fri 08 Jan 2016, 21:40:43

Got 3 numbers and the Powerball, so I got $100.
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Re: $2 Daydreams

Unread postby ralfy » Fri 08 Jan 2016, 22:29:24

Related:

"How a USM professor became an Internet meme"

http://usmfreepress.org/2012/01/22/how- ... rnet-meme/
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Re: $2 Daydreams

Unread postby sparky » Fri 08 Jan 2016, 22:31:48

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Pops , I do buy dream time too .
since there is only two outcomes , winning or not , the mind play the trick of thinking it's a 50% outcome
get one ticket and don't check for weeks if I won or not
it keep the spending dream going for longer ,

it's fine as long as you realize that there is a "bummer" moment when the dream evaporate
That's the price to pay for dreaming , waking up to reality
but as long as you know it and don't check , it's like Schrodinger cat , it is both alive and dead

don't bother buying two , it's pointless , one is good enough to dream on
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Re: $2 Daydreams

Unread postby Cog » Fri 08 Jan 2016, 23:29:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shaved Monkey', 'M')aybe a conservative charity that gives guns to the poor or puts pin pricks in condoms destined for the 3rd world ?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/03/31/gr ... -poor.html


This is perfect. :-D
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Re: $2 Daydreams

Unread postby Rod_Cloutier » Sat 09 Jan 2016, 11:16:26

My wife has a serious gambling problem. I've tried for years to stop her from wasting money and chasing fantasy, but nothing worked. Explaining that the odds of winning to her is useless- She'd reply that people win sometimes, and the classic Gamblers fallacy- 'it will be my TURN soon'.

Winning small prizes actually reinforce the mania to gamble. Bingo is the one game that it actually makes sense to play. At most you spend about $30.00, half of the money is taken for a local charity, the other half of the money is pooled for prizes. You have to be present to win, and you can determine your odds of winning by determining how many people are in the bingo hall with you. They play each game until someone wins. I've won large prizes on bingo myself, on one occasion the heat for my house was about to be cut-off in winter but I won a prize large enough to pay the entire bill. Where would I have been without this, I thought? (I was out with my wife at her request for a night out together)

I'm reigned in my wife to stay away from the 1 in 500 billion chance lottery tickets, and to keep her away from the one arm bandit VLT machines, by letting her go to bingo once or twice a week. On average she wins back what she spends, no net gain, so it is a neutral activity. (A complete and boring waste of time, I have better things to do, my spare time is so much more precious to me than wasting it trying to get a few bucks more)

I think public gambling actually serves a more sinister purpose. If people everywhere weren't EXPECTING to win the lottery, people would take an actual interest in changing the status quo; so the powers that be would quickly become the powers that were. Letting the masses believe that they will one day have it all, preserves the class structure and it keeps the poor and middles classes from rising up to even the playing field. The $2 lottery gamble is of critical social importance to those already at the top of the pyramid.
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Re: $2 Daydreams

Unread postby Pops » Sat 09 Jan 2016, 12:09:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sparky', 'g')et one ticket and don't check for weeks if I won or not
it keep the spending dream going for longer ,

LoL me too!
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Re: $2 Daydreams

Unread postby careinke » Sun 10 Jan 2016, 05:35:40

Now up to 1.3 Billion. Think KJ would sell me a seat on his colony spaceship for 1.3 billion?
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Re: $2 Daydreams

Unread postby Cog » Sun 10 Jan 2016, 06:03:28

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Re: $2 Daydreams

Unread postby Pops » Mon 11 Jan 2016, 15:09:43

Yeah, $800mil cash, close to half a billion after tax.
Man, this is starting to look like work!

A Real Peaker knows that to put money in the bank is foolish, investing in BAU is even worse!
So converting bank money or even FRNs into real value is the Prime Objective!

I'm ready for someone to win, I've bought 3 tickets now! Blowin my entire entertainment budget for the whole year.
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Re: $2 Daydreams

Unread postby Tanada » Mon 11 Jan 2016, 15:32:34

It might be enough to build a real live functional Arcology, if you believe in that sort of future.

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