What can you do to prepare when you can’t?

“A split vortex sending waves of cold into North America, Europe and Russia is what a warmer ocean does.”

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“And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.” — Revelation 16:10

Suppose for a moment that you lived in, say, Syria in 2001, and through some special gift of clairvoyance, you knew what lay ahead in the coming decades.

Most of those around you seem utterly clueless. Your country has been ruled by Hafez al-Assad, who declared himself President following a bloodless coup d’etat in 1971. Over most of your life, Assad had led what was called the Corrective Movement. Assad’s program was economic socialism, strengthening the private sector’s role in the economy, drawing a sharp line between church and state, and encouraging multiculturalism. While

Hafez al-Assad

Assad was minority Alawite, he had reached out to bring ethnic Sunnis into senior positions in his government, the military, and the Ba’ath party. He attended Sunni Mosque to show his ecumenical spirit. By 2000, the gradual progress of Syrian economic and social development was plain to see. And now, after the old man’s death in November, his son Bashar al-Assad is popularly elected President. Bashar’s wife Asma is Sunni Muslim, born and educated in Great Britain. This is a progressive, up-and-coming country.

You would have to be extraordinarily gifted to see what your world will look like 20 years later. Perhaps you are. You may, for instance, grasp the significance the attack of 911 holds for your nation because within the Sunni branch of Islam, Saudi Arabia is strenuously ultraconservative Wahhabi. They are so fanatical they might even imagine being able to attack the Great Satan and get away with it.

Asma and Bashar

Or you might know that having a foreign policy calling for the dissolution of Israel and the return of Palestine might be bad for your own relations with the Great Satan. It will not escape your notice when the Ba’ath party is banned in neighboring Iraq in 2003 by the Coalition Provisional Authority.

Alawites, such as the Assad family, are a separate ethnoreligious group from Sunni Muslim. In Syria, they are mostly a coastal population, about 11% at the inception of the Corrective Movement and about 17% today. The Qur’an is only one of their holy books and texts, and their interpretation has very little in common with the Sunni interpretation and goes much farther back. Genetic studies trace the Alawites to the Arameans, Canaanites, Hittites, and Mardaites. They were massacred by the Crusaders but later became allies when they realized the Crusaders were not a rival Islamic faction and shared many Alawite beliefs and practices. Alawites drink wine in communion (Ali’s transubstantiated essence) and allow alcohol socially, in moderation. They believe in a divine triad, comprising three aspects of the one God. To Alawites, these aspects, or emanations, appear cyclically in human form throughout history. Alawites also believe in reincarnation.

These beliefs and practices, along with separation of church and state, made the Assad regime one of the most Western-oriented in the Middle East but raised animosity among other branches of Islam. Bashar’s succession of power from his father and push towards free market trade brought about more income inequality, high youth unemployment, and also coincided with the most intense drought ever recorded in the Middle East, the driest 15-year period of the last 900 years, and resulted in widespread crop failure, an increase in food prices and a mass migration of farming families to urban centers. An influx of some 1.5 million refugees from the Iraq War and occupied territories in Israel didn’t help, either.

As part of the wider wave of the Arab Spring protests, discontent with Bashar Assad escalated to armed conflict in 2011. Many long-simmering scores vied to get settled. Salafi jihadist groups (including al-Nusra Front), and the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) smelled opportunity and perhaps a shot at a Caliphate. A loose alliance among opposition rebel groups, including the CIA-backed Free Syrian Army, White Helmets and Kurdish Syrian Democratic Forces, came together ostensibly to root out ISIL and that worried Turkey, who was not all that keen on arming the Kurds. Kurdish separatism extended well across the Turkish border.

Struck on three sides and losing ground, Ba’athist Syria and the Syrian Armed Forces, back peddling, sought help from Iran and Russia. Russia, after initial hesitance, decided Syria would be a good laboratory to try out some of its newest battlefield tech in terrain somewhat less challenging than Afghanistan. In short order, it managed to eradicate most of the opposition forces who did not have US cover and, by staying in contact with forward US command could avoid accidental overkill while surgically removing ISIL, which may or may not have been a US objective. By 2016, Syrian Armed Forces began to retake the country formerly held by jihadists.

But then President Trump made the mistake of sending ground troops and, following the downing of a Russian Su-25 warplane by a US-made SAM, Russia may have rescinded its promise to keep US soldiers and airmen safe. For the US, the war has now reverted to drones and airstrikes, while Russia continues to lend air support and training to the Syrian Armed Forces. According to the Washington Post on January 14, 2019:

Government forces backed by Russia and Iran are pummeling the few remaining rebel-held areas. Turkey has reinforced troops on its border to battle both Kurdish fighters and remaining jihadists, who are trying to defend the shrinking territory they hold.

Both Assad and the Syrian Kurds plan to resume negotiations over autonomy arrangements for Kurdish-majority areas, which displeases the US, who wants Assad out and an alliance with the Kurds, and NATO-ally Turkey, who wants the Kurds out and an alliance with Assad. Just to keep it interesting, since the conflict began Israel has frequently attacked targets there — “thousands” of them, according to IDF General Gadi Eisenkot. Were Saudi Arabia not busy in Yemen they would probably be there too. It is everyone’s free fire zone. US airstrikes alone increased 50% in 2018 and civilian casualties by 215%. Over the past 8 years, hundreds of thousands of Syrian noncombatants have been bombed, starved, or assassinated for their beliefs or ethnicity.

Meanwhile, the US elected an insane, kleptocratic gang to the White House and Senate, is exploding its national debt, and for the first time since WWI, has seen its life expectancy decline for the third year in a row. More USAnians will die in 2019 from opioids than died from the entire Vietnam war. This is what the terminal phase of empire looks like, and it would not be untoward for the US to defund its puppets and proxies and start pulling back from the 70 countries its 800 military bases occupy, while it still can. Alternatively, it could stand back and nuke the planet from space.

So you are a young Syrian in 2001. Do you see all this coming? Probably not. But suppose you did. What would you do?

The smart move could be to get out of Dodge. Take your whole family. Quick as you can, like the cleverest Jews and Gypsies in Germany in the 1930s, you should scrape up enough to leave. Don’t wait around longer than you have to.

Now consider what we all can see happening around us in 20 years. We don’t need much imagination, because the best scientists in the world have already told us what will happen with a fine degree of precision.

We are now at 1 degree Celsius above 1900. The Greenland ice sheet is shrinking. Antarctica is calving large sheets of ice into the Southern Ocean. It is not cooling the ocean as much as the ocean is heating from a futile attempt to keep the atmosphere in equilibrium. Sea level rise is accelerating, more from the thermal expansion of water than from added meltwater. On April 17, 2016 residents of Waller County Texas were walloped by 16.8 inches of rain before noon. That is what a warmer ocean does. Hurricane Harvey dropped 51 inches on the Houston region in 3 days in August 2017.

People walk down a flooded street as they evacuate their homes after the area was inundated with flooding from Hurricane Harvey on August 28, 2017 in Houston, Texas.

To see a headline like Polar Vortex Splits In Three (January 16, 2019) might have been shocking once but is now accepted. A split vortex sending waves of cold into North America, Europe and Russia is what a warmer ocean does.

According to the National Research Council, each degree C of global temperature increase can be expected to produce:

5-10% changes in precipitation across many regions
3-10% increases in the amount of rain falling during the heaviest precipitation events
5-10% changes in streamflow across many river basins
15% decreases in the annually averaged extent of sea ice across the Arctic Ocean, with 25% decreases in the yearly minimum extent in September
5-15% reductions in the yields of crops as currently grown
200-400% increases in the area burned by wildfire in parts of the western United States

But that is one degree. We are past that now. On current trendline, we will be somewhere between 3 and 5 degrees warmer by the end of the century. That assumes the trend holds, which is by no means certain because many countries are still building more coal electric plants, and the Saudis have a lot more oil.

At two degrees, the NRC says, millions of more people living on coasts will be flooded out. Corals reefs will be gone and toxic plankton blooms will spread, ending much of the commercial seafood industry. Nine out of 10 summer seasons will be as hot as the hottest summer between 1980 and 2000. Crop production will decline drastically. Water shortages will be endemic as stream flows are reduced by 20 to 30%. Nuclear plants will be unable to cool themselves from rivers or coastal water and will close.

Half a degree over 2? More severe winter freezes. More heat waves, more crop losses, more water shortages, more inundated coastal cities, more disease and conflict, millions more suffering. At 3 to 5 degrees, all else being equal, sea levels will rise about 4 to 7.5 meters (13-24 feet). Deglaciation of the West Antarctic ice sheet could raise the ocean 5 meters more. These changes will unfold slowly and even halting emissions after 2020 won’t prevent what is already in the pipeline. The climate will continue to warm for several more centuries until it reaches its new equilibrium temperature based upon the changed chemistry. That could be at 7 degrees, 9 degrees, 12 degrees, we really don’t know. We just know it is a lot hotter than mammals like homo can tolerate. Bees gone, butterflies gone, birds gone, whales and dolphins gone, and then we’re gone too.

So here you are now, young Syrian. You can see what lies ahead. Where do you go to hide? What do you do to prepare?

We are all Syrians now.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

— Dylan Thomas, 1947

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132 Comments on "What can you do to prepare when you can’t?"

makati1 on Sun, 20th Jan 2019 5:34 pm

We cannot see the future clearly, but we certainly can see the direction and likely events to come. That is why I relocated to the Philippines over 10 years ago. I saw the path the Us was on and decided I did not want to go that way. A huge change in my life at 64 but the best one I have made in my life. No regrets.

I can see the world more clearly from this vantage point than I ever could inside the United Police States of America where nothing is real and everything is about greed, corruption and money. Not the US I grew up in. Not even close.

Advice to intelligent Americans: Get out of Dodge while you can. You cannot escape climate change, but you can make you life safer and happier elsewhere.

Davy on Sun, 20th Jan 2019 6:22 pm

Makattoo, I am happy I stayed. I am here with my family and friends. That is what matters not some cowardly notion of selfish self-preservation. IOW, you ditched everybody that mattered for a cheap thrill.

makati1 on Sun, 20th Jan 2019 6:43 pm

Davypoo, IF you make it to 75, you will understand that eventually family goes their own way and friends die. But you have a while to learn that. I left no one, they died or moved on in their own life. My kids are scattered all over the East Coast. My friends are fewer every year as they pass on or relocate like I did.

But then, you don’t want to admit I am in a better, safer place than you are. You have no options as you are tied down by those same friends and family just as I was. Life changes and you have to move on. Nothing lasts forever, even family and friends. Change keeps you alive.

Enjoying the winter there? Summer here all year round. LOL

Davy on Sun, 20th Jan 2019 7:10 pm

“Davypoo, IF you make it to 75, you will understand that eventually family goes their own way and friends die.”
Sure thang makattoo, sounds like excuses of a lonely old man to me.

“But then, you don’t want to admit I am in a better, safer place than you are.”
You are not any safer than me makattoo, you just think you are and besides why the obsession with safety. Are you scared of living? I know you go on and on about how long you are going to live. I think you are terrified of dying and it is just right around the corner for you.

‘You have no options as you are tied down by those same friends and family just as I was.”
I am happy to be here with my friends and family, makattoo. I love my farm. Options in your case are you have nothing so yea lots of options but no substance.

“Enjoying the winter there? Summer here all year round. LOL”
As a matter of fact yes, I am loving winter this year. We are finally getting snow and cold. Nice to have a real winter. I was worried climate change might turn our winters into something like what they have in the south east. You can have the boring summer year around shit. lol

Anonymouse on Sun, 20th Jan 2019 7:37 pm

Davytard is well over 75 mak. His IQ? considerably lower. His only purpose in life, is trolling, his little po.com sock-puppet brigade, and wondering how he has until the authorities finally come for him and lock him up in whatever passes for the local nuthouse, or, prison if the the nuthouse has been shut down due to budget cuts.

No need to worry about the exceptionaltard thinks of your situation, or any one else. If there one quasi-organic lump of immobile corn-syrup derivatives here that doesn’t matter, he is it.

makati1 on Sun, 20th Jan 2019 7:39 pm

Davy, you keep making up lies about my life of which you know absolutely zero. Whereas, you appear to have no life. Pathetic!

I live my life to the fullest. You are only existing, barely. You live in a dying country that is evolving into a 3rd world Gestapo Police State run by a dictator. You have nowhere to run. And, BTW, Italy is NOT a better place. Not even close.

You can lie, deny, putdown, and act like the arrogant spoiled nine year old you are, but it affects my life not at all. I laugh at your pathetic attempts to upset me. You and MOB are a miserable pair or you would not be on here 24/7/365. You have no life. If you did, there would be better things to do. Your need to bully is a mental problem, Davy. You need help.

I’m retired. I have all the time in the world, but I am only on here for a few hours to catch up on world events and make a few commencements/posts here, like this one.

I don’t like ice and snow and you won’t either as you age. That’s why people move to Florida when they retire. But you don’t understand. Never will. You have a mental block on reasoning/understanding reality. The world does not revolve around Davy. It doesn’t even know Davy exists.

makati1 on Sun, 20th Jan 2019 7:44 pm

BTW Davy, it is not YOUR farm, it is a farm that your thieving elders stole money to buy and then they stashed the family embarrassment there to keep him out of trouble. Did my description of you hit the nail on the head? I think so. IF you really live on a farm and have a family. Not a given.

More likely you squat on someone else’ land and live like a backwoods hillbilly with a used smart phone. Welfare check being held up by the shutdown? Need those food stamps? Neighbors coming over for possum fritters? LMAO

Darrell Cloud on Sun, 20th Jan 2019 8:47 pm

Fate has a way of following people. Wilmer McLean had the misfortune of having the Civil War’s first major battle fought in his front yard and have that same war end in his parlor.

I’m going to ride this one out with my friends and family.

I AM THE MOB on Sun, 20th Jan 2019 9:04 pm

Native Americans remove statue of Christopher Columbus in Downtown Los Angeles

https://v.redd.it/5msmsoq8olb21

The new proliferate has started!

This is a kick in the nuts to the white race!

I AM THE MOB on Sun, 20th Jan 2019 9:08 pm

Gaddafi’s last words as he begged for mercy: ‘What did I do to you?’

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/oct/23/gaddafi-last-words-begged-mercy

This is the fate of Putin! I hope he is sodomized with a knife as well!

LMFAO!

Cloggie on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 12:31 am

This is the fate of Putin! I hope he is sodomized with a knife as well!

Of course you hope that, you little Marxist satan.

You however should worry you will not end up like this at the hands of US deplorables:

https://tinyurl.com/yc2at94v

And that’s far more likely than Putin “getting sodomized”, as your brethren at Bloomberg have already given up on both Putin and Xi:

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2017-09-27/america-s-new-world-order-is-officially-dead

Oops, that is already 1/7 of the Night of the Broken Glasses:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/27/us/active-shooter-pittsburgh-synagogue-shooting.html

It’s coming!

#110

Cloggie on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 12:53 am

Native Americans remove statue of Christopher Columbus in Downtown Los Angeles

https://v.redd.it/5msmsoq8olb21

The new proliferate has started!

This is a kick in the nuts to the white race!

It absolutely is! LA and California are Mexican!! Make Mexico Great Again!

And we, the 2 billion of Eurasia say: bring it on! Come on darkie & kikie: humiliate whitey as much as possible as to force him to defend himself, bringing America effectively to an end, not a minute too early.

Only when whitey picks up arms, we in Eurasia can come to his aid and use him as a tool to get ZOG destroyed, by first striking a Zimmermann-esque backroom deal with the Mexican government (“you can have the entire SW and restore 1820 borders, with our Eurasian backing”), if they allow us PBM to pump war material in huge quantities via Mexico into the hands of the deplorables, but with the implicit instruction to remain within the Mississippi basin and do not cross the Appalachians and stay out of the Rockies (that’s for Mexico).

At the same time, China will use the occasion of imploding US power and have a good time in South-East Asia and strip the place of Anglos: Taiwan, Philippines, South-Korea, Australia, New Zeeland, one domino after another. All with the quiet backroom backing of PBM.

Upshot:

– 2 Anglo centuries coming to and end.
– 2 new super powers: PBM and China
– Britain can have Anglo-Canada
– France will get Quebec
– China gets Vancouver
– Commonwealth PBM + Heartland
– Jews get Upstate New York, Palestine given back to Muslims, orthodox Sefardic Jews are allowed to stay, rest goes to New York
– Unrestricted historic revisionism (WW1, WW2, holohoax) when Russia opens its archives
– Davy will begin to learn Dutch

End good, all good (except for the Soros bunch, but you can’t always please everybody.lol)

http://tinyurl.com/y8ydx6a9

makati1 on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 1:16 am

Bloomberg has a paywall, but you can read their article here for free.

https://journal-neo.org/2018/07/22/bloomberg-americas-new-world-order-is-officially-dead/

makati1 on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 1:20 am

Cloggie: “China will use the occasion of imploding US power and have a good time in South-East Asia and strip the place of Anglos:”

Obviously that is a wet dream of your wildest fantasies. China is not going to do anything with Anglos. Tell me why they would? There is zero reason for them to do anything in S.E. Asia that they are not already doing. Dream on! LOL

makati1 on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 1:31 am

BTW Cloggie: Eurasia has a population of 5 billion plus, not 2 billion and Europe is less than 750 million or about 15% of the Eurasian population.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasia
https://en.wikiphttp://www.worldometers.info/world-population/europe-population/
http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/europe-population/

You are a minority and will NOT be making the rules. LOL

Cloggie on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 1:36 am

What do great powers want? More power!

https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2015/01/02/america-australias-dangerous-ally/

https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/sink-two-aircraft-carriers-chinese-admirals-chilling-recipie-to-dominate-the-south-china-sea/news-story/aaa8c33d57da62e7d5e28e791aa26e0f

Cloggie on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 1:38 am

“BTW Cloggie: Eurasia has a population of 5 billion plus, not 2 billion and Europe is less than 750 million or about 15% of the Eurasian population.”

Only Europe, Russia and China matter, geopolitically. You Americans are all so egalitarian!

lars idon andersson on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 3:39 am

Se Georgia Guide stones

I AM THE MOB on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 4:25 am

China says its economy grew 6.6 percent in 2018. That’s the lowest official pace in 28 years

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/21/china-2018-gdp-china-reports-economic-growth-for-fourth-quarter-year.html

The great debt wall is collapsing!

I AM THE MOB on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 4:34 am

World’s 26 richest people own as much as poorest 50%, says Oxfam

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jan/21/world-26-richest-people-own-as-much-as-poorest-50-per-cent-oxfam-report

This is the real problem with the world..Too bad morons like clogg blame all of their problems on immigrants..Thanks to the billionaire owned propaganda that misdirects them..

I AM THE MOB on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 4:39 am

Der Spiegel details how its beloved, award winning reporter fabricated stories for years

http://m.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/claas-relotius-reporter-forgery-scandal-a-1244755.html

And clogg ate up the fake stories like mothers milk..Elderly conservatives don’t have the ability to tell fact from fiction

Cloggie on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 5:09 am

“China says its economy grew 6.6 percent in 2018. That’s the lowest official pace in 28 years
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/21/china-2018-gdp-china-reports-economic-growth-for-fourth-quarter-year.html
The great debt wall is collapsing!”

Third world USA can only dream of 6.6% growth, you f moron. They are about to kick your ass from geopolitical pole position.lol

https://youtu.be/vaiH547MU6I

Cloggie on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 5:12 am

“Der Spiegel details how its beloved, award winning reporter fabricated stories for years
http://m.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/claas-relotius-reporter-forgery-scandal-a-1244755.html
And clogg ate up the fake stories like mothers milk..Elderly conservatives don’t have the ability to tell fact from fiction”

Der Spiegel, like all western media, are CIA rags and as such are the Enemy.I never take them at face value, only to identify weaknesses and fears of the system.

Cloggie on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 5:22 am

“World’s 26 richest people own as much as poorest 50%, says Oxfam
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jan/21/world-26-richest-people-own-as-much-as-poorest-50-per-cent-oxfam-report
This is the real problem with the world..Too bad morons like clogg blame all of their problems on immigrants..Thanks to the billionaire owned propaganda that misdirects them..”

Oxfam, you mean those do-gooders who use money from simpletons to sexually exploit colored minors?

I have zero sympathies for billionaires. The difference is that you only target white billionaires. When jewish billionairs are in focus, mobster all of a sudden gloats that these are so invulnerable, so all-powerful, that one shouldn’t even aspire to topple them.

One standard for jews, another for everybody else, that’s mobster for you. Not that he wants to stress that too much. There is a reason why Europeans always glued a yellow star of david to jewish chests, as a warning sign: criminal alert. Here you have another liar, deceiver, rapist, sadist, loan shark. Beware!

Cloggie on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 5:29 am

I love it! LA removes Columbus statue:

https://www.euronews.com/2018/11/12/los-angeles-topples-its-christopher-columbus-statue

LA and Frisco, two hellholes where third world trash shits on the pavement.

Won’t be long until whitey and darkie go at each others throat, an excellent Eurasian opportunity to make Anglo trouble makers leaderless.

Sorry mobster, you are overplaying hour hand.ROFL

Davy on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 6:29 am

“You can lie, deny, putdown, and act like the arrogant spoiled nine year old you are, but it affects my life not at all. I laugh at your pathetic attempts to upset me. You and MOB are a miserable pair or you would not be on here 24/7/365. You have no life. If you did, there would be better things to do. Your need to bully is a mental problem, Davy. You need help.”
Makattoo, you started this shit and continue it. You can’t spit in my face daily and expect me to take it lying down. Keep it up and I will. This has been my message since 2013. GOT IT

“BTW Davy, it is not YOUR farm, it is a farm that your thieving elders stole money to buy and then they stashed the family embarrassment there to keep him out of trouble.”
Makato, you don’t know much about our farm but thanks for the opportunity to tell others. I care take in semi-retirement a family farm my grandfather started in 1948. It is 400 acres. It was a dairy farm for 10 years. It was then more or less just rented out to people to put cattle on along with recreation. The family came here to fish and hunt. 20 years ago I spearheaded an effort to convert parts of the farm to its original condition which was a savannahs with woody draws and clumps of woods. We made a major effort to reestablish native grasses and wildflowers. Today I maintain the natural elements and have made an effort to introduce grazing back into the mosaic of habitats. I have 80 acres in a grazing system of 12 paddocks with waterers which allows rapid rotational grazing. This is the best and most efficient way to manage pasture. It is not the most profitable because of the time involved but it is best for the animals and grasses. Introducing grazing back to the farm has actually increased the wild life. You just can’t have a high stocking rate and must keep the border areas brushy. The fields cannot be grazed down to low. This is exactly what goats like and why I purchased goats. I also have cattle because they manage grass very well and the goats brush and weeds. I have my own 100 acres with a house and barn near the family farm. I am part owner of the family farm.

“Did my description of you hit the nail on the head? I think so. IF you really live on a farm and have a family. Not a given.”
Makato, missed that description by a mile.

Davy on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 6:30 am

“Darrell Cloud on Sun, 20th Jan 2019 8:47 pm I’m going to ride this one out with my friends and family.”
Exactly, Darrell, this is what real men do not cowards who run away then talk about death to the country where their family lives.

Davy on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 6:34 am

“Third world USA can only dream of 6.6% growth, you f moron. They are about to kick your ass from geopolitical pole position.lol”

Most intelligent people know the 6% number is bogus. It is likely half that figure when rationalized with what goes on in China. All nations lie about their circumstances, China lies the most.

Davy on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 6:36 am

“I love it! LA removes Columbus statue:”

Considering what whites did to the beautiful Americas I think it is a worthy gesture to the Natives that were rapped and pillaged by us whites.

Cloggie on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 7:20 am

Davy offers himself and his fellow whites for some major spanking out of pure sense of guilt.

Actually count Davy out, he will be off to Italy when tshtf. Davy loves to virtue signal, except when payday arrives.

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Davy on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 8:01 am

“Davy offers himself and his fellow whites for some major spanking out of pure sense of guilt.”
Clogged, real men own their sins. Whites raped this hemisphere it is as simple as that. I have great respect for what Northern Europe is doing today with renewables. Keep things in perspective clogged. It is not all good what our people have done to the world.

“Actually count Davy out, he will be off to Italy when tshtf. Davy loves to virtue signal, except when payday arrives.”
If I go to Italy it will not be because SHTF. It will be because I am too old to farm and choose to live in the beautiful location my wife is from. I tend to think I will stay here at the farm. This farming life keeps me fit and vigorous as opposed to your keyboard life with no activities.

Cloggie on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 8:16 am

Davy, it is perfectly ok to respect and treat indigenious Americans well. But you are indulging in your “down with us” sentiment and romanticizing the ancient Indian way of life. Indians have huge reserves, but live western lives. Nobody except libtards in all earnest wants to live in a f* wigwam, not even Indians.

Western (read: European) civilization has beaten them all in attractiveness. They owe us, not the other way around.

And now please one minute of silence tor the great European Columbus.

Davy on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 8:25 am

“Davy, it is perfectly ok to respect and treat indigenious Americans well. But you are indulging in your “down with us” sentiment and romanticizing the ancient Indian way of life. Indians have huge reserves, but live western lives. Nobody except libtards in all earnest wants to live in a f* wigwam, not even Indians.”
Clogged, The Native Americans have a respect for nature. Many whites do also but we have much to learn from their way of life pre-Columbus. Many Native Americans are too poor to care but some maintain the connection and are a valuable asset to people like me that preach “REAL” green living as opposed to your “FAKE” green living. That said I am in great admiration for Northern Europe and its efforts at going renewable. These are my people too, clogged. My ancestry is German and Dutch.

“And now please one minute of silence tor the great European Columbus.”
Columbus was a rapist plain and simple. Let’s not revere rapist.

I AM THE MOB on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 8:30 am

CLogg

I am not a fucking jew..And its the left who oppose Israel..Your fucking side worships them ie Ben Shapiro.>Trump has bent over backwards for Bibi..And Bibi just went to Brazil to welcome their new populist president..Bibi is the defacto leader of the populist movement..

You fake ass..

Antius on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 9:22 am

“Most intelligent people know the 6% number is bogus. It is likely half that figure when rationalized with what goes on in China. All nations lie about their circumstances, China lies the most.”

Economic growth rate is set as a target for local Chinese officials. They are likely to be removed from office if they fail to achieve it. This goes some way towards explaining why China borrows some 25-30% of their GDP each year. This money is poured into infrastructure projects and state enterprises to generate the ‘growth’. Not a sustainable situation, but exactly when the house of cards will finally come down is difficult to predict.

In theory, any country could achieve 6% growth rate by borrowing 30% of the GDP each year and pouring into infrastructure projects. But who else would be insane enough?

I AM THE MOB on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 9:56 am

Antius

You are the epitome of white privilege..

The Truth Shall Set You Free on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 10:06 am

Clogged:

If I were you, I would call it a day after getting your ass beat.

Cloggie on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 10:50 am

“I am not a fucking jew.”

I know, because you never get laid, mommy issues and such.

For the rest you pass every kosher duck test imaginable.

I AM THE MOB on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 11:02 am

Clogg

You are just a paranoid loon..Who is jealous of jews so you see jews everywhere..Like I said..Trump is the lover of Jews and bibi is the leader of your populist movement..its the left who oppose Israel and support Palestine..

50 shades of Orange
https://i.redd.it/yllf9bd41jb21.jpg

LMFAO!

Cloggie on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 11:24 am

The rise of the alt-left.

The reasonable, non-demonizing, non-snowflake anti-war left.

Now here is a Democrat, who gets a lot of approval from the right, including me. Steven Bannon is one of her admirers and I can perfectly understand why:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/tulsi-gabbard-2020-president-election-democrat-candidate-assad-syria-foreign-policy-a8738041.html

She pragmatically visits Assad, doesn’t demonize Putin, doesn’t like Jihadists too much, not even as a tool of US foreign policy.

She is an America Firster and isolationalist. LGBT-ism is not a hobby of her. A breath of fresh air in a party of loons.

deadly on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 12:01 pm

People in the Middle East have been fighting and killing each other for thousands of years and no amount of intervention is going to stop what they do. The fuzzing and the fighting was going on long before Islam appeared on the scene. Blame that idiot Abraham, started there.

Middle Easterners are always complaining about something, lamenting incessantly about all that is wrong, never mind they themselves are to blame for it all.

The Yemenis are battling the Saudis. It is what they do, war is good bidness and bidness is good. It has been going on for centuries and nobody is going to be able to stop it, not ever, peace will never exist, peace ain’t it for them.

If they are content at killing each other day in and day out, let them have at it. If they want to stone somebody to death for adultery or lop of their head for murder, more power to them.

Let Mecca and Medina burn.

A dozen thousand pound bombs at the base of the Burj Dubai would do some serious damage.

911-II, what goes around comes around.

Bomb the minarets at the Hagia Sophia, invade Turkey and extirpate the Muslims there. Gotta have a place for displaced Europeans that can no longer live in Europe because of rampant immigration. Might as well do a crusade all over again and get even, take back Istanbul and make it Constantinople, raze Istanbul and start from scratch. Controlled demolitions make less of a mess.

Everybody knows the US is to blame for all of it.

Back in the 13th century, the Mongols invaded Baghdad, allied the Christians with the Shiites to gang up on the Sunnis. The Sunnis weren’t cooperating at all with the invaders, so you have to do something. The Shiites took the opportunity to slaughter the Sunnis after years of oppression. What goes around comes around.

The Mongols ruled Baghdad back then much like the US does now. That big embassy means one thing: Anschluss of Iraq, an oil colony.

You need armed forces if you have an embassy that is in the business of dictating how the oil is going to flow.

The collateral costs will always be there, no matter when, historically, that is the way it is.

The US might as well control the flow of oil, it appears to be the most efficient means at the moment.

Flip flop, it never stops.

Antius on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 12:33 pm

“You are the epitome of white privilege..”

Let me tell you a story for you amusement Mob.

When I was 18, I applied to Imperial college in London for a Civil Engineering degree. I had AAB at A Level. I didn’t get in. But the black student with 3 B’s who was sitting next to me in the waiting room did. The university needed to fill a quota of ethnic minority students to demonstrate how inclusive it was.

When I started working, I gradually progressed up the ranks, as my accomplishments accumulated. Those people were more interested in what I could actually do.

I have never experienced White Privilege at any point in my life. I have never been given anything; I have had to work hard for everything. I wouldn’t have expected it any other way.

Where are these supposed strongholds of white privilege? Have you ever experienced it? I certainly never have. I have watched various ethnic minorities receive an artificial leg up and many of them failed all the same, because they weren’t prepared, or able, to get ahead. No body discriminated against them; indeed, they were often given a head start.

The Truth Shall Set You Free on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 1:10 pm

“Trump is the lover of Jews and bibi is the leader of your populist movement..its the left who oppose Israel and support Palestine..”

Clogged never has a reply to his blind support for Israel.

Cloggie on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 1:37 pm

“Clogmeister never has a reply to his blind support for Israel.”

Actually I regularly did.

Israel is not the issue. The issue is The Lobby in the US. Trump is attacking their interests around the clock. He attacks their media, he wants to halt immigration, he gives up in Syria, he wants Europe to increase defense spending, destroys relations with Turkey.

He basically demolishes the empire. I am not aware of any prominent jew that doesn’t hate him. In other words, Trump is doing excellent work. Who gives a shit where the US embassy is exactly located.

Cloggie on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 1:48 pm

“You are the epitome of white privilege..”

It is completely pointless to verbally defend yourself against these kind of dialectical attacks. Whatever you do, the planetary vermin will hurl these attack words against you, regardless.

It is far more effective to carefully study the 109 times they were defeated and expelled and prepare for #110

They want to destroy us, using their third world proletariat against us. Let’s destroy them back a little, just for fun. We have them almost locked in CW2.

tahoe1780 on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 2:49 pm

The truth about Libya:

https://www.globalresearch.ca/libya-ten-things-about-gaddafi-they-dont-want-you-to-know/5414289

Please consider a source other than MSM propaganda.

The Truth Shall Set You Free on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 4:19 pm

“Israel is not the issue. The issue is The Lobby in the US. Trump is attacking their interests around the clock.”

Clogged, you are as slippery as they come.

The religious Jewish zealots adore Trump for his carte blanche support for Israel. He maintains this position to appease his Christian fundamentalist supporters.

I AM THE MOB on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 4:59 pm

Antius

Its okay you were a failure in life and now you take it out on the little guy..And I doubt any college would want someone who is stupid enough to share stories from zerohedge..Remember when you were sure the cons would take the house because zerohedge told you so?

I AM THE MOB on Mon, 21st Jan 2019 5:09 pm

Truth

Clogg may not have moves,

He may not have style,

But everything he lacks,

He makes up in denial..

What can you do to prepare when you can’t?

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