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Total Planetary Collapse: The truth is that we are literally running out of everything
The clock is ticking for humanity, and it is not just because our financial system is heading for the biggest implosion that any of us have ever seen. The truth is that we are literally running out of everything. We will not have enough oil to meet our energy needs long before we get to the end of this century. The lack of fresh water is already a major crisis in many parts of the world. Our air and our soil are more polluted than they have ever been before. And at this point we can barely feed the entire planet, but global demand for food is expected to escalate dramatically in the years ahead. If we continue doing things the way that we have been doing them, a future filled with famine, civil unrest, environmental chaos and war appears to be inevitable. We are literally on the verge of total planetary collapse, but because this is happening in slow-motion most people don’t feel an urgency to do anything about it.
And to a certain extent, the damage has already been done. This week, the WWF released a report which found that the vertebrate population of the world has fallen by an average of 60 percent since 1970. the following comes from NBC News…
The population of the planet’s vertebrates has dropped an average of 60 percent since 1970, according to a report by the WWF conservation organization.
The most striking decline in vertebrate population was in the tropics in South and Central America, with an 89 percent loss compared to 1970. Freshwater species have also significantly fallen — down 83 percent in that period.
You may be thinking that you are not a big fan of the WWF, and I certainly am not either.
But even if their numbers are off by half, we are still talking about a planetary disaster of unprecedented magnitude.
Vertebrates include all mammals, fish, birds, amphibians and reptiles. Species after species is being wiped out, and enormous holes are forming in the global food chain.
I don’t know if I even have the words to describe what we are facing. The chief executive of the WWF says that what we are experiencing is “death by a thousand cuts”…
The animals that remain will fight against warming oceans choked with plastic, toppled rain forests may zero out fragile species, and refuges such as coral reefs may nearly die off.
That will transform life as humanity knows it, said Carter Roberts, the chief executive of the WWF in the United States, if societies do not reverse course to protect the food, water and shelter needed for survival.
“The numbers are astonishingly bad,” Roberts told The Washington Post. “It’s death by a thousand cuts.”
There are a couple of other numbers from the report that I wanted to highlight.
First of all, the report states that nearly 6 billion tons of fish and invertebrates have been taken out of our oceans since 1950. Today, over 4 billion people get at least some of their protein from eating fish, and if we do not start doing a better job of taking care of our oceans we are going to be facing a horrific planetary famine very soon.
Secondly, the report also claims that 90 percent of all seabirds in the world now have plastic in their stomachs.
Back in 1960, that number was sitting at just 5 percent.
We are literally filling up our oceans with our plastic waste, and in the process we are destroying our future. For much, much more on this, please see my recent article entitled “There Are Trillions Of Pieces Of Floating Plastic In Our Oceans, And If We Don’t Stop All Marine Life Will Eventually Be Dead”.
The time to act is now, but it is extremely difficult to get the entire world to act in unison on anything, and most of the “environmental solutions” that are being proposed today are complete rubbish.
But “doing nothing” is certainly not an option either. Without our natural environment, modern societies would cease to exist, and this is a point that the report made very clearly…
The report urged quick action to avoid irreversible change to the planet, including a shift to green energy and environmentally friendly food production.
“What is clear is that without a dramatic move beyond ‘business as usual’ the current severe decline of the natural systems that support modern societies will continue,” the report said.
And Tanya Steele was even more direct when she spoke with CNN…
Tanya Steele, the WWF’s chief executive in Britain, put it more bluntly to CNN: “We are the first generation to know we are destroying our planet and the last one that can do anything about it.”
Years ago, I remember watching a DVD entitled “Collapse” by Michael Ruppert. I know that many of you probably watched it as well, because at the time it was very popular. In that video, Ruppert made some excellent points about our limited natural resources. But things have gotten so much worse than when he originally put that DVD out, and if he was alive today he would be absolutely horrified at how rapidly things have fallen apart.
Infinite growth is not possible on a planet with limited natural resources, and at this point we are literally running out of everything.
Will we be the generation that will be remembered for turning things around, or will we be the generation that will be remembered for destroying the Earth?
I would certainly like for it to be the former, but I have a feeling that it will turn out to be the latter.
About the author: Michael Snyder is a nationally syndicated writer, media personality and political activist. He is publisher of The Most Important News and the author of four books including The Beginning Of The End and Living A Life That Really Matters.
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152 Comments on "Total Planetary Collapse: The truth is that we are literally running out of everything"
Chrome Mags on Wed, 31st Oct 2018 1:52 pm
Any call to action will be muted by big money interests. Our species at this point has a trajectory that ignores the plight of life on the planet, human or otherwise. We’ve made monetary profit the prime driving force and that won’t change no matter how degraded it becomes. We will fight over what’s left until it becomes a dust bowl devoid of life.
Ok, that’s a bit cynical, but is there any other course conceivably likely? Not just if it can be dreamed up, but does it have a likely chance of happening and why?
Cloggie on Wed, 31st Oct 2018 3:15 pm
News wrap up:
Optimistic sounds from Brussels, Brexit deal within three weeks:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6338449/Dominic-Raab-says-expects-Brexit-deal-THREE-WEEKS.html
In my view most likely candidate to followup Merkel: Friedrich Merz:
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/friedrich-merz-ueber-kandidatur-fuer-cdu-vorsitz-wir-brauchen-keinen-umsturz-a-1236108.html
The right-wing ghosts that Trump awakened:
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/midterm-wahlen-neonazis-nationalisten-holocaust-leugner-unter-republikanern-a-1235796.html
“Neonazis, holocaust-deniers, anti-semites, they all come out of the woodwork all of a sudden in the runup to the November elections… they are all loud and aggressive… genral hatred against the press”
It looks like a critical mass and momentum has been achieved, the white geni is out of the bottle and is picking up speed like a hurricane.
Here we go again on Wed, 31st Oct 2018 3:16 pm
Remember the Dustin Hoffman movie “The Graduate” and an old man’s advice on what field to go into..”Plastics”….seems he was dead on right!
onlooker on Wed, 31st Oct 2018 3:21 pm
Short of a immense intentional genocide of humans and/or rich world people acquiescing to live much more primitive lifestyles, nothing much else we can do to alleviate the burden our species has on the planet. Given that will not happen, the planet will no longer be able to support more than a fraction of our current population
DerHundistLos on Wed, 31st Oct 2018 3:52 pm
‘Beware the beast Man. Alone among God’s primates, he kills for sport, and lust, and greed. Shun him: If he is permitted to breed in great numbers, he will make a desert of his home and yours. For he is, the Great Destroyer.’ ~~29th Scroll, 6th Verse~~
Revelation 11:18: The Lord commanded the destroyers of His creation shall be cast down into the pit of hell.
DerHundistLos on Wed, 31st Oct 2018 3:59 pm
The tortures of hell is just a phrase. The reality is much, much, worse.
Davy on Wed, 31st Oct 2018 5:52 pm
“You’ll Need 286 Pounds of Coal to Fuel That Electric Road Trip”
https://tinyurl.com/yb8da5cx
(graph) https://tinyurl.com/y7zcnp6x
“New Yorkers looking to escape the winter chill by driving to Daytona Beach, Florida, would use about 40 gallons of gasoline to traverse the 1,000 miles in a Chevrolet Impala. Switch that gas guzzler out for an electron-eating EV and the equation changes. A Tesla Model S traveling the same distance would need power generated by about 2,500 cubic feet of natural gas, 286 pounds of coal or 33 minutes of blades spinning on a giant offshore wind turbine to make the same journey.”
makati1 on Wed, 31st Oct 2018 6:23 pm
War Amerika? You are pushing for the big one.
“Whatever Russia does is being portrayed by Western officials and media as a demonstration of hostile intent. Should Russia sit idly by, watching all these preparations going on in full view? If those are not considered provocative behavior, then what is? Any nation would be concerned if an infrastructure were being built that was designed for offensive operations against it.”
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/10/29/military-escalation-europe-is-like-runaway-train-time-slow-down.html
“Add in, as well, the issue of political credibility. No president wants to appear weak and in the United States of the last many decades, pulling back from a war has been the definition of weakness. No one — certainly not Donald Trump — wants to be known as the president who “lost” Afghanistan or Iraq. …Generals, too, have their own fears of defeat, fears that drive them to escalate conflicts (call it the urge to surge) and even to advocate for the use of nuclear weapons, as General William Westmoreland did in 1968 during the Vietnam War….
Lurking behind the incessant warfare of this century is another belief, particularly ascendant in the Trump White House: that big militaries and expensive weaponry represent “investments” in a better future — as if the Pentagon were the Bank of America or Wall Street. Steroidal military spending continues to be sold as a key to creating jobs and maintaining America’s competitive edge, as if war were America’s primary business. (And perhaps it is!)”
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/176487/tomgram%3A_william_astore%2C_the_pentagon_has_won_the_war_that_matters/
Beating the drums of war/profit/and, eventually national suicide. Are YOU prepared?
makati1 on Wed, 31st Oct 2018 6:32 pm
“There’s a lot of advice out there about building bunkers to withstand radiation and hunkering down in the event of a nuclear war. But there aren’t a lot of simple things a beginning prepper can do to prepare for such a devastating event, leaving many feeling unprepared….
The first and likely most effective thing you can start today is learning….Don’t expect the government or anyone else to be of any help to you in the event of a nuclear war….
Some foods can be incredibly beneficial at removing toxins and radiation from the body to reduce the damages potentially done. But another good option to store is potassium iodide. Potassium iodide has many health benefits to the human body, including removing radiation….
Another item you should consider stocking up on is duct tape. You’ll want to seal up your windows after turning off all air conditioning and heating units to prevent outside radiation from leaking into your home.”
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/simple-ways-to-prepare-for-a-nuclear-war_10302018
Start now, if you haven’t already. Time may be running out. You buy life, health and home insurance. Why not survival insurance?
makati1 on Wed, 31st Oct 2018 6:40 pm
Be remembered as the generation that killed the planet? Remembered by whom? There will be no one left by 2100 to remember anything. Does anyone think today? Certainly not all of the hopey/feely people are deluding themselves and their readers. They too are writing for a buck, not education. The human herd is running to the cliff and will not stop until the last one goes over. So be it.
I offline for the rest of the day. Holiday here.
makati1 on Wed, 31st Oct 2018 6:42 pm
LOL I AM offline… No way to correct after “post comment”!
I AM THE MOB on Wed, 31st Oct 2018 7:12 pm
Mak
Did you see any pictures of your family on halloween? Oh yea, they disowned you because you are a nut job..
Nobody loves you..
LMFAO!
Luke on Wed, 31st Oct 2018 7:13 pm
It was too late to do anything for the planet by 1850… maybe sooner.
You can’t “scale down” civilization, you can only build until you can build no more.
The rich don’t get a pass on the infrastructure needed to maintain or properly shut down 400 nuclear power plants no longer being in place… no mammal larger than a rat does.
Prepping will not help, nothing but time will help. The world will look about the same a million years from now as it did a million years ago, and humans only part in it will be the fossil record and a thin layer of what used to be plastic world wide.
GetAVasetomyAndLetTheHumanSpecieDie on Wed, 31st Oct 2018 7:56 pm
Personally I think the human race is a failure.
I am not one of this person who think the human are the best achievement of nature and must be preserved at all cost. I think human are a failure and deserve extinction. Human extinction will allow this earth to come up with something new.
Look at human flaws: Narcissism,stupidity, greed, self-center, liar, power ego. Look around the world who are the people in charge: liar, narcissist and stupid are the people in charge of the world. Some names: Trump,Macron, Trudeau, May, Merkel, Hilliry and Bill Clinton, Soros, Buffet.
People with potential never reach the power structure because they are not liar, narcissist and power hungry. I am so happy that I don’t have any kids. I know that I did the right choice.
Hurray for the extinction of all humans
Darrell Cloud on Wed, 31st Oct 2018 7:57 pm
I am going to focus on the remnant. There is life at Chernobyl. I am going to do everything I can to get my little ones through the bottleneck. Life expectancy may drop to 40 but there will still be life.
Пожалуйста, удалите антиамериканскую собаку, которую я сделал из гранитного форума on Wed, 31st Oct 2018 9:38 pm
i’m a tard and a former paultard, i’m always in the state of indecision so i’m never amounted to anything.
DerHundistLos on Wed, 31st Oct 2018 9:42 pm
What Happens When Humans Are Unleashed Upon South America’s Megabeasts?
Death-Destruction-Extinction of elephant-sized sloths, armadillos, humpless camels, short-faced bear, jaguar, saber-toothed tigers, and many other
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/06/how-climate-change-unleashed-humans-upon-south-americas-megabeasts/487502/
DerHundistLos on Wed, 31st Oct 2018 9:49 pm
<<<<<>>>>>
NORTHERN WHITE RHINO OFFICIALLY DECLARE EXTINCT after last of its kind dies.
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/03/sudan-northern-white-rhino-death/556058/
THE RICH OF VIETNAM-CHINA-ASIA RESPONSIBLE FOR WAVE OF RHINO EXTINCTIONS (I knew we should have bombed the bastards back to the stone age).
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/06/rich-men-rhino-horns/529455/
Пожалуйста, удалите антиамериканскую собаку, которую я сделал из гранитного форума on Wed, 31st Oct 2018 9:52 pm
der you know about dropbox right? u can upload picture of probing there and we’ll talk.
saying “FBI investigate” is not proof ok buddy.
Пожалуйста, ударьте антиамериканскую собаку, которую я сделал из гранита on Wed, 31st Oct 2018 10:06 pm
der vietnam like phils have almost zero supertards so they don’t have public health straightened out and everyone is sick. that’s why they have to use alt-tard medicines and the rhinos pay the price.
our supertards give us safe electricity and indoors plumbing with running water. exept for zica and west nile here and there we don’t have an issue with insect borne illeness.
in phils they have suicide showers and their electric is 220v. they have no choice to to carry higher voltage to the house because their infrasturcre is so bad. they don’t care about their lives at all.
it takes virtually no current to kill so the consideration is lopsided on the voltage. our supertards give us 110v and 220v for special equipments only. in phis they go for the tard extreme of 220v
DerHundistLos on Wed, 31st Oct 2018 10:19 pm
Hell
The Netherworld
The Infernal Region
The Place of Torment
Pandemonium
Naraka
Abaddon
Tophet
Gehenna
The Abode of the Eternal Damned
DerHundistLos on Wed, 31st Oct 2018 10:21 pm
“……. the agony of my soul found vent in one loud, long, and final scream of despair.”
–E.A. Poe
DerHundistLos on Wed, 31st Oct 2018 10:28 pm
“I’m going to do everything I can to get the little one through the bottleneck.”
Sounds nice. If only it were so easy. Replace “bottleneck” with environmental apocalypse. It’s not like the Walking Dead.
MANKIND (we) BUTCHERED ALL LIFE PAST THE POINT OF REDEMPTION.
DerHundistLos on Wed, 31st Oct 2018 10:44 pm
“exept for zica and west nile here and there we don’t have an issue with insect borne illeness.”
Huh? AGW has moved numerous vector borne diseases into the US including, but not limited to:
Chagas
Dengue Fever
chikungunya
Lyme disease
Plague
tularemia
typhus fever
Q fever
ehrlichiosis
Rickettsial disease
Malaria
Yellow fever
etc.
makati1 on Thu, 1st Nov 2018 12:21 am
Пож, does insanity run in your family? You obviously inherited a lot of it from somewhere, or are you just a typical ignorant American? Never been out of your local neighborhood so your think the rest of the world is a shithole? Or want to pretend it is so your shithole neighborhood and life is not so bad?
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/62-percent-of-all-u-s-jobs-do-not-pay-enough-to-support-a-middle-class-life
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2018/10/30/is-the-western-world-too-insane-to-be-worth-saving/#more-186016
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-31/cuban-crisis-20-russia-assessing-military-base-cuba-after-us-inf-pullout
I hope you ARE an arrogant, delusional American and will enjoy your slide the rest of the way into the 3rd world … or lower. It is just a matter of time. LOL
Ohm's Law on Thu, 1st Nov 2018 12:22 am
“in phils they have suicide showers and their electric is 220v. they have no choice to to carry higher voltage to the house because their infrasturcre is so bad. they don’t care about their lives at all.”
Homes in the US are supplied with 240 volts. The US system is antiquated compared with much of the rest of the world, and it would be far too expensive for the US to upgrade the infrastructure now.
makati1 on Thu, 1st Nov 2018 1:16 am
Ohm’s Law, you are correct. The US has an antiquated electrical system that is slowly breaking down. Maybe he should do some research?
“Home electrical fires account for an estimated 51,000 fires each year, nearly than 500 deaths, more than 1,400 injuries, and $1.3 billion in property damage.
Electrical distribution systems are the third leading cause of home structure fires.
Each year in the United States, arcing faults are responsible for starting more than 28,000 home fires, killing and injuring hundreds of people, and causing over $700 million in property damage.
The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) reports that electrical receptacles are involved in 5,300 fires every year, causing forty deaths and more than 100 consumer injuries.
Sixty-five percent of home fire deaths result from fires in homes with no working smoke detectors.”
https://www.esfi.org/resource/home-electrical-fires-184
Davy on Thu, 1st Nov 2018 2:07 am
“Ohm’s Law, you are correct. The US has an antiquated electrical system that is slowly breaking down. Maybe he should do some research?”
Stupid old man review this site referenced bellow. This is a site you cherry pick routinely so tell me why your stupid P’s is not on here. Tell me why the US is. Also the US ranks with Germany. What a typical cherry picking dumbass.
“Ranking of the countries with the highest quality of electricity supply in 2017/18”
https://tinyurl.com/z7jf7px
Davy on Thu, 1st Nov 2018 2:08 am
“Ohm’s Law on Thu, 1st Nov 2018 12:22 am”
another stupid sock puppet
Outcast_Searcher on Thu, 1st Nov 2018 3:11 am
I see the collapse site this was posted on is selling all manner of things that will sell better if people believe in collapse.
Funny how that works.
Meanwhile, such sites have had horrendous records re their predictions. But never mind – they’re peddling what the Cassandras want to hear.
To bad they don’t try to help fix some small part of what they endlessly moan about.
Davy on Thu, 1st Nov 2018 4:22 am
“Chinese Yuan Tumbles To New Cycle Low Amid Signs Of Capital Outflows”
https://tinyurl.com/y87ft5wr
“As Chinese markets began to wake, yuan just broke below 6.98/USD for the first time in this downswing, despite PBOC liquidity withdrawals sending money market rates spiking (to squeeze yuan shorts).”
“Trump and Xi are supposed to meet at the G20 in Buenos Aires at end month. Will they talk trade? They need to cos Trump has already threatened to subject the other of 50% of imports from China to punitive tariffs. This is how he prepares the ground, telling Fox News: “I think that we will make a great deal with China and it has to be great, because they’ve drained our country,”. Designed to turn XJP frostier, be even less inclined to bring something to the table, and more anxious not to be seen to be succumbing to foreign pressure. So I think, barring something going on in the background, these talks are set up to fail, assuming they happen. The 10% tariff rate is due to go to 25% on 200bn $ of goods on 1 Jan anyway, and we shd probably expect WHY to go for the remaining 250bn $ of imports in new year… 2019 big year for China. centenary of founding of CCP. and rivals Soviet CP’s 72 years in power. Xi’s Chinese Dream of Rejuvenation of Chinese Ppl isn’t just a slogan. Being seen to succumb to Trump’s WH is just not on. Expect both sides to dig in further Begs question as what China will do next. Xant tit for tat any more, as they have run out of room. @davidjlynch in @washingtonpost reminds us that tourism cd be a target. Targeting US firms also could be cranked up. Yuan depreciation also poss tho v risky at home too … Much longer discussion and background written up in Red Flags, just out in the US this month….the details change with the news and announcements, but the substance is sadly all too clear.”
“For now, 7.00 looms heavy on the horizon… and everyone knows the target is there to test PBOC. 6.9895 is the historical low for offshore yuan (Jan 2017)…”
(graph) https://tinyurl.com/ybacaarb
Davy on Thu, 1st Nov 2018 4:23 am
Probably the biggest factor that will influence the onset of recession in 2019 and the depth of that recession is US/Chinese relations. This will make all other economic issues worse or better relatively speaking. Nothing looks good for 2019. One bright note for Trump haters a bad 2019 will likely slip into 2020 and they will not bode well for reelection.
Davy on Thu, 1st Nov 2018 4:51 am
“Climate change: Oceans ‘soaking up more heat than estimated”
https://tinyurl.com/y9qgszxq
“The world has seriously underestimated the amount of heat soaked up by our oceans over the past 25 years, researchers say. Their study suggests that the seas have absorbed 60% more than previously thought. They say it means the Earth is more sensitive to fossil fuel emissions than estimated. This could make it much more difficult to to keep global warming within safe levels this century.”
“What does it mean for the oceans? As well as potentially making it more difficult to keep warming below 1.5 or even 2C this century, all that extra heat going into the oceans will prompt some significant changes in the waters. “A warmer ocean will hold less oxygen, and that has implications for marine ecosystems,” said Dr Resplandy. “There is also sea level, if you warm the ocean more you will have more thermal expansion and therefore more sea level rise.”
“Will the heat ever come back out? Yes, say the authors, but over a very long time. “The heat stored in the ocean will eventually come back out if we start cooling the atmosphere by reducing the greenhouse effect,” said Dr Resplandy. “The fact that the ocean holds so much heat that can be transferred back to the atmosphere makes it harder for us to keep the Earth surface temperature below a certain target in the future.”
Davy on Thu, 1st Nov 2018 5:06 am
“7 US States Set To Double Their Wind Capacity”
https://tinyurl.com/yccc7g8o
(graph) https://tinyurl.com/yb2cz3pk
(graph) https://tinyurl.com/y86yk5pq
“The United States wind energy industry installed a total of 612 megawatts (MW) of new capacity in the third quarter, according to the most recent figures from the American Wind Energy Association published Tuesday, paving the way for 7 states to double their capacity in the near-term.”
“The wind is always blowing in the U.S. and the latest wind turbine technology helps affordably and reliably put more of that natural resource to work,” said Tom Kiernan, CEO of AWEA. “With projects underway in over 30 states, wind is rapidly expanding as a major source of American energy, good jobs and clean air”
“The third quarter also saw the first firm orders placed for 4 MW land-based turbines — turbines nearly twice as powerful as the average installed through 2017. Specifically, the average utility-scale wind turbine installed in 2017 had a capacity of 2.32 MW, but as prices continue to decline, larger wind turbines will become more common, delivering greater power to the grid. To put the future in context, the US boasts only two land-based wind farms using turbines rated above 3.5 MW, but with 4 MW coming on to the market that is likely set to change over the near-term. The report also highlighted the evolution of wind turbines in the US sector, with longer blades helping the turbines to capture more of the wind, while new wind farms are also making use of big data and machine learning to improve power output and reduce downtime.”
I AM THE MOB on Thu, 1st Nov 2018 6:01 am
Fun Fact: Barron Trump was born in March 2006 and Melania wasn’t a legal citizen until July 2006..
So under this new executive order Trump’s own son wouldn’t be an American citizen..
LMFAO!
deadly on Thu, 1st Nov 2018 6:02 am
I am seeing Sandhill cranes fly overhead by the thousands, been going on for two weeks now. Plenty of Sandhill cranes out there.
I saw some 20 Whooping cranes the past two weeks or so.
Thousands of geese too. Plenty of ducks.
Mother Nature is not going to let it happen.
What we are running out of is brains.
Not many people have them at all.
I AM THE MOB on Thu, 1st Nov 2018 6:03 am
Davy
I know you are a narrow minded bigot who can only spam this site with scaremongering click bait ie zerohedge..But could you keep it to just two a day please? its getting ridiculous!
Davy on Thu, 1st Nov 2018 6:13 am
MOB, so what who cares what you think. Whine all you like. Bash your head against the wall. Maybe you will feel something. I don’t see you debating what I said. This means I won the argument. You are just a stupid kid that has help ruin this board. I have never seen it this trampled down by noise and junk comments. You are one of the biggest sources of this scum.
I AM THE MOB on Thu, 1st Nov 2018 6:26 am
Davy
I am not going to debate fake news from a click bait farm..Just like I am not going to debate bigfoot with the crazy person who shouts at the bus stop..
You and clogg are the lunatic fringe..Total unsophisticated morons..
Davy on Thu, 1st Nov 2018 6:47 am
MOB, you don’t debate anything because you don’t know how. You are good packing the board with your cherry pickings. You are a FRAUD.
DerHundistLos on Thu, 1st Nov 2018 6:51 am
I saw some frogs yesterday. Must mean all amphibian species are in excellent shape. You know why? Because mother nature isn’t going to let them die.
And you have the audacity to claim other people are stupid.
I AM THE MOB on Thu, 1st Nov 2018 7:25 am
Davy
Get yourself some professional help..If not for yourself, do it for your families sake.
And of course I cherry pick..I post stories that are usually oil related..Do you want me to post stories about football on a peak oil blog?
Davy on Thu, 1st Nov 2018 7:34 am
MOB, when you talk like that what you are saying is you have lost the argument. The only thing that matters here on this screwed up forum is ideas that hold water. Who gives a shit about what you think? You are a stupid kid that is unemployed with nothing to do but try to piss people off online. I bet you are a little shit in real life and probably afraid to fight. WTF kind of life is that? FAILURE
Antius on Thu, 1st Nov 2018 7:56 am
Interesting analysis of net energy return for wind energy.
https://www.soest.hawaii.edu/GG/FACULTY/ITO/GG410/Wind/Kubiszewski_EROI_Wind_RenEn10.pdf
The long shot: wind turbine EROI increases steady with increasing size. This is due to both increasing economy of scale and increasing hub height, allowing access to higher wind speeds. The implication is that policy should focus on very large wind turbines in windy locations (preferably offshore).
Large offshore turbines also appear to have higher capacity factor, which is very important, as it reduces the need for energy storage.
Electricity storage (i.e. converting electricity to stored energy and converting it back again) trashes the EROI of renewable energy systems. If we assume that half of energy is stored at an efficiency of 50% (i.e. to buffer intermittency) then the effective output of the renewable energy source is only 75% of its baseplate value.
The energy store is a power station that consumes intermittent power and spits out dependable power. If it’s embodied energy is similar to that of the renewable energy converters, then total EROI including losses, will be just 37.5% of the calculated EROI of the renewable energy source, for the combined system. That means that for a wind power plant with EROI of 40, say, the whole system EROI will be reduced to just 15 after storage buffering. The effect on whole system costs can be expected to be similar.
This outlines the importance of minimising the use of energy storage in a future renewable energy system. For such a system to work, it is necessary to choose high EROI renewable energy sources and to adjust demand to match supply, as much as possible.
I AM THE MOB on Thu, 1st Nov 2018 8:07 am
Davy
I have worked since I was 14..I didn’t have rich parents like you who handed me everything via welfare..
And I am not arguing with you for the same reason I don’t argue with a flat earther..
I hope you use an ad blocker with zerohedge..
Now go back to your garden and beating your sister/wifes ass..
Cloggie on Thu, 1st Nov 2018 8:15 am
@Antius – your link is from 2008 or ten years ago, an eternity in technology. Siemens reports eroi 50 or highet for its 3MW turbines. The bigger the turbines, the highet the eroi.
Energy generation is not the problem, not anymore. Storage is the last challenge.
Thanks for the Canadian iron=fuel link. There seems to be a breakthrough every week.
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2017/12/16/siemens-reports-eroi-onshore-wind-of-50-or-larger/
Davy on Thu, 1st Nov 2018 8:16 am
“I have worked since I was 14..I didn’t have rich parents like you who handed me everything via welfare..”
Sure MOB, we can see that from your persona here. LMFAO pussy
“And I am not arguing with you for the same reason I don’t argue with a flat earther..”
You ain’t doing shit but whining. Like I said all that matters here are ideas that hold water and stand up to a fight. I have been called everything in the book. I have had multiple sock puppets attack me and lately my identity is used daily and nightly. You think I give a shit about you and your critique. I respect smart people not assholes. I will tolerate smart assholes. Plain unadulterated stupid assholes like you are worthless to the board.
“I hope you use an ad blocker with zerohedge..”
Dumbass, don’t you turn all that shit off???
“Now go back to your garden and beating your sister/wifes ass..”
LOL, the more extreme the less impact.
Davy on Thu, 1st Nov 2018 8:27 am
“Interesting analysis of net energy return for wind energy.”
One also needs to look at the energy return of a system when adding wind. Surely there is an optimum combination per different energy systems in different regions of renewable additions where the addition of renewables actually makes the whole system EROI better. If you already have the spare fossil fuel capacity or storage then adding wind would yield a bigger return then adding wind to a system past its optimum. In this regards the world should be studied for the best applications for new renewables of all types to existing systems instead of forcing a high renewable components to a particular energy system based on a policy seeking a 100% renewable system. If 100% renewable system is not EROI realistic economically then we should shoot for the best of all energy combinations per all available systems. Let’s incorporate what we can as fast as we can and get the unrealistic policy out of the equation.
Davy on Thu, 1st Nov 2018 10:17 am
Sorry about the above word salad everyone, which is really nothing more than a confused way of stating the obvious, AND for losing my shit again earlier.
Davy on Thu, 1st Nov 2018 10:30 am
“Get yourself some professional help..If not for yourself, do it for your families sake.”
How many times do I have to tell everyone?
I’M NOT CRAZY!!! DUMBASSES!!!