The Plastic Garbage Now Equals the World’s Population in terms of Tons

51 Comments on "The Plastic Garbage Now Equals the World’s Population in terms of Tons"

onlooker on Sun, 20th Aug 2017 8:48 pm 



Another grim indicator of how utterly harmful to the planet and unsustainable our population numbers and impact has become

Makati1 on Sun, 20th Aug 2017 9:23 pm 



Hmm… Again. Who is the most guilty of waste? Give up? AMERICA! The sooner it collapse’ into the 3rd world, and is unable to waste or terrorize the rest of the world, the better. Tomorrow?

https://sites.google.com/site/iilyear4/top-10-countries-that-produce-the-most-waste 2008 (US is Number One!)

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2015/08/which-countries-produce-the-most-waste/ 2012 (US is still Number One in total trash)

The US should be called “Trashland” It certainly has plenty of two legged trash. The 1%.

onlooker on Sun, 20th Aug 2017 9:40 pm 



https://www.pri.org/stories/2016-01-13/5-countries-dump-more-plastic-oceans-rest-world-combined–
In a recent report, Ocean Conservancy claims that China, Indonesia, the Philippines, Thailand and Vietnam are spewing out as much as 60 percent of the plastic waste that enters the world’s seas.

Shortend on Sun, 20th Aug 2017 10:07 pm 



Cool, my (our) forever legacy we humans are leaving in solid form, Greenhouse gas in atmosphere, and radioactive spent fuel rods in liquid. Homo Consumptionians and proud of it!

Makati1 on Sun, 20th Aug 2017 11:14 pm 



Hmmm. “That enters the world’s seas”? Not TOTAL trash production? And who funds “Ocean Conservancy”? Interesting that the countries mentioned are all on the US ‘enemies’ list today.

Address will give a clue as to its purpose: 1300 19th Street, NW, 8th Floor, Washington, DC 20036

“contributors”: Johnson & Johnson, Schering Plough, Burger King, Capital One, Mazda, Unilever, Whirlpool, etc. A long list of multinational corporations who also generate much/most of the trash in the world. Hypocrisy at its best. As usual, for an American organization.

It is funny that I see the rivers leading onto the sea here, from Manila, and I see little trash floating. Maybe it is all of those wealthy Filipinos in their yachts that are trashing the oceans? (Sarcasm of course.)

BTW: I got a ‘404 Page not found’ when I tried to access the ref’ed article. Maybe they “trashed” the article? LOL

MASTERMIND on Sun, 20th Aug 2017 11:45 pm 



Makati1

If you really want to talk about trash.You post articles all the time from zerohedge and the burning platform. Do you really believe those are sites that civilized intellectuals spend their time reading? You are so deluded you are like a serial arsonists who accuses others of starting fires.Your ignorance is amazing. And I got news for you fish eyes. Your moral crusade against America is simply self serving. It makes you feel like you are a good person. But I guess that is what decades of involuntary celibacy has done to you.

5 of th on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 12:08 am 



Hmm. and those articles originate from many sites. Muddymind. Or didn’t you happen to notice that fact? Nor do I read all of the articles there or even here. I check out the source of new writers or sites before I assign a truth value to them. Then I read what they have to say and compare that to my own experience and education before making a judgement. Do you?

As for my view point and comments on the world and especially the Fascist Police States of Amerika, I have come to them thru living in this world for 70+ years, 60 odd of them in the FSA. Can you clam the same? Or are you some snowflake trying to pay off his huge school/drinking binge debt? Or living in Mom’s basement?

Might I add that your arrogance is amazing, but typical for a stupid, brainwashed American. BY the way, you are a newbie here or you would know that I am the father of four, the grandfather of 12, and was married for 28 years. What can you claim in that area? Or are you not of legal age yet?

If you do not like my comments, ignore them. I don’t care. Obviously they hit a nerve and you cannot help yourself. Must be terrible to be trapped in a dying country and seeing your future turning into chaos and ruin. I left there almost 10 years ago and now live a totally free life here in the Ps. Totally free. Something an American can never be in the tax land called America.

Makati1 on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 12:10 am 



I keep hitting the name line in the sign-in block. Gotta watch that.

Makati1 on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 12:13 am 



BTW: Muddymind, your drop to name calling puts you in the kindergarten class with a few others here who have no honest rebuttals, just putdowns and name calling. Real sign of intelligence. NOT!

Makati1 on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 12:20 am 



Seems then Amerikan Navy captains cannot stay sober long enough to avoid hitting those huge oil tankers.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-20/uss-john-mccain-collides-merchant-ship-near-straits-malacca

To bad it didn’t sink. Also too bad, McCain wasn’t one of the dead. Oh well, better luck next time. LOL

MASTERMIND on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 12:48 am 



Makati1

I am glad you left America and you can take your twin brother the Asian carp back home with you. LOL

GregT on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 1:00 am 



“Seems then Amerikan Navy captains cannot stay sober long enough to avoid hitting those huge oil tankers.”

Hmmm, I thought those tankers had radar?

Makati1 on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 1:25 am 



Muddymind, I’m glad I left America too. You cannot imagine how glad. I am among the millions who are doing so because they see the future America and don’t want to be there. There are hundreds of thousands of Americans living in the Ps, building a new life and, in some cases, businesses and families. There is still freedom here. Taxes are low. The people are friendly, educated and ambitious. The climate is good and the prices are low. What more can you want? LOL

Makati1 on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 1:30 am 



GregT, would you give right-of-way to a 16 wheeler if he was crossing your path? I would. The Navy ship was in the wrong by maritime rules and should have avoided the tanker no matter if it had radar or not. Do you know the turning time of a tanker VS a navy ship? The big boy might need 10 minutes to turn away VS the navy ship a minute or less. It’s called physics.

The navy captain should be hung from the yardarm. Or just pushed over board in shark waters. The results of the investigation will never make the news.

deadlykillerbeaz on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 4:05 am 



Want to reduce plastic trash?

Stop making plastic for food packaging.

Just way too much packaging plastic in the chain. Packaging water in small plastic containers by the millions to throw them away is obscene. Please recycle.

Besides, the solar eclipse will receive all of the attention today. It is all going on up in Space today.

There will be plenty of trash generated at the places where the observation areas are.

Plenty of trash is good for business. Who cares if it destroys the earth?

Go Speed Racer on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 5:19 am 



If every American would have a weekly garbage fire
in their backyard, there wouldn’t be
any plastic waste going into the ocean,
and no plastic into landfills either.

Davy on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 5:51 am 



Makat, I know you hypocritically live in the financial district with the rich westerners as you talk like you are out with the real Filipinos. You bash the rich and the west like a modern day robin hood but you are one. You are never at the fantasy farm which would be the real 3rd world deal. I suggest you put your glasses on because this is the trash floating around your squalid country. Not all the country is squalid but the many slums spread throughout the country are squalid so quit lying to us or is it lying to yourself.

http://tinyurl.com/ycabugez

Davy on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 6:00 am 



“BTW: Muddymind, your drop to name calling puts you in the kindergarten class with a few others here who have no honest rebuttals, just putdowns and name calling. Real sign of intelligence. NOT!”

Hypocritical words from a stupid old man. You reap what you sow dumbass. You deserve every bit of it, makat. Since I have been on here you have been the primary instigator of hate and discontent. Your personal vendetta for the US and your bragging about your insignificant new county has been a constant blemish on this board. A board that should be discussing survival risk and personal solutions. You keep talking like the construction on the farm is almost done and you are moving. WTF, are you building a mansion. You are always talking how hard working your Filipino people are but this fantasy farmstead is talking years to complete. I thought it was just a simple construction. Please get it done and be gone.

Davy on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 6:29 am 



“Historic Eclipse Will Test America’s Grid as Solar Waxes, Wanes”
http://tinyurl.com/yaz9rzuv

“In a few hours, the first total eclipse of its kind in 99 years will plunge broad swaths of the U.S. into darkness, sending solar supplies sliding and testing the resilience of the power grid for the first time since the rapid rise of renewable energy. Grid operators, utilities and electricity generators are bracing for more than 12,000 megawatts of solar power to start falling offline as the moon blocks out the sun across a 70-mile-wide (113-kilometer) corridor stretching from Oregon to South Carolina.”

Makati1 on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 6:45 am 



Davy, you “know’ shit. I could live in the US for all you ‘know’. You only ‘know’ what I have posted here as, maybe, fact. You ASSUME too much. And so what if I do live there. It amazes me that you waste so much time on here when you have a family and a farm to run. Time to research the people you despise because they tell you things you don’t want to hear. I don’t believe you have either family or farm. And that is a ‘fact’.

I don’t hate anyone who is struggling to survive in America. I hate what America has become. I hate those who support that fascist government. And, yes, I hate the 1% who are bleeding it dry. And, I will continue to point out its failures as long as there is an internet.

As for the farm, perhaps you didn’t realize that the Ps has internet most everywhere, including at the farm? Also TV, cell phones, etc. I will be on here as long as the internet lasts. Not much longer, I think. My family is independent so there is no time requirements there. I don’t have crops that require daily care or animals that need more than feeding and some grooming. I’m not farming to make money, just enough to be independent. Something you will never be. You are a slave to TPTB.

Slums? What do you call the many new “Hoovervilles” (Trumptowns?) popping up all over the US? Do you want me to list them? How about the 45+ MILLION Americans on Food Stamps? The many MILLIONS getting welfare? The MILLIONS of medicaid recipients? When those government bennies disappear, and they will, the US will look like Bangladesh with riots. Just because you do not see them in your neighborhood, yet, does not mean they do not exist.

Look in the mirror, Davy. Your denial of the coming fall of the US is only hurting you. Americans pointing a dirty, bloody finger at others is pure hypocrisy.

Davy on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 7:29 am 



“I could live in the US for all you ‘know”
I am honest makat. I tell it like it is. You on the other hand have just indicated you might be story telling. This is out of your own mouth so don’t accuse me of anything.

“waste so much time on here when you have a family and a farm to run”
I am here doing mental exercise. I am learning and giving what I know. I am not here proselytizing a hate vendetta. The difference between me and you and other heavy contributors is I have an IPHONE. I work all day and it is enjoying to take a break. When I do I find enjoyment in the daily conversations. In the morning I have my coffee. I get my news and contribute. After dinner I sit down on the laptop and check in. I watch very little TV. You and others on the other hand are stuck inside on your devices. WTF, are you guys doing, nothing but siting on your asses. I work and I proved it but you and others here don’t and you proved it. I know who has said they don’t use IPHONES or does not have cell reception. LOL. I work every day I can and all day long. I make my own hours. I love what I do. Permaculture farming and creating a doomstead is my passion. I have a wonderful family and family life. That is how it is not like you say “I could live in the US for all you ‘know”

“Look in the mirror, Davy. Your denial of the coming fall of the US is only hurting you.”
makat, please reference where I have denial of “the coming fall of the US”. You won’t because you can’t. I am a doomer and prepper so why would I not talk about it dumbass. I am building a doomstead for a reason stupid. Maybe you are grasping for shit but it keep blowing back in your face.

Cloggie on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 7:45 am 



Historic Eclipse Will Test America’s Grid as Solar Waxes, Wanes

I experienced a total eclipse some 20 years ago in Munich. It was of a different, spooky quality than twilight. I imagined that this was like being on Mars for several minutes, or some other planet, further away from the sun than earth.

Anonymouse on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 7:50 am 



Look, on the bright side, only 91% of that plastic is still around. 9% of it, was thoughtfully and responsibly recycled into long-lived, vital and necessary plastic products for the good of all mankind.

Naw, Im just screwing with ya’ll. It was turned into plastic salad shooters and new single-use plastic shopping bags. You know, to help haul all the new plastic shit people buy on a daily basis home….

Davy on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 8:04 am 



“I experienced a total eclipse some 20 years ago in Munich.”

It is happening here at 1:17! I am excited

Makati1 on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 9:31 am 



No Davy, you are totally brainwashed and don’t seem to realize it. You only see the world the way you want it to be, not as it actually is. Too bad. Delusions usually lead to suffering and early death.

You do NOT work everyday, all day long. You are on here for hours writing your long bloviating essays that are meaningless. Spend that time with your kids. You will someday wish you had. I spent my extra time with mine and it is one of the best things I ever did.

You are nothing more than a 1%er pretending to be normal. Pretending. As long as you are part of your family, you are a 1%er by birth, education and attitude, no matter what you profess. It is obvious.

Good luck with that doomstead in the land of the dollar. Your government will take it if they want it, and probably will eventually. They can already, by law, take your crops and animals when they want them. They can control you in so many ways it would take a book to cover them all. Some 600,000+ ways/laws last time I checked. You need a license to do anything. You pay fees for everything. You are required to give insurance companies and banks whatever they want. You are compelled to buy health insurance at whatever price the companies demand or you die. Yep! You are “free” … to die.

bobinget on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 9:52 am 



President Donald Trump’s administration has dissolved a federal panel of scientists and other experts tasked with helping create and implement new policy based on the latest climate change research findings.

That decision, members of the 15-person committee told HuffPost on Sunday, does not bode well for the future of climate change preparation and prevention during Trump’s time in office.

A spokeswoman for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, which established the panel in 2015, confirmed Sunday that the Department of Commerce would not renew the charter for the Sustained National Climate Assessment’s Federal Advisory Committee.

“Per the terms of the charter, the [committee] expired on August 20, 2017,” the emailed statement read. ”The Department of Commerce and NOAA appreciate the efforts of the Committee and offer sincere thanks to each of the Committee members for their service.”

This is incredibly unfortunate for our country, and particularly the most vulnerable populations across the U.S.
Maxine Burkett, University of Hawaii law professor
The National Climate Assessment (NCA), which has been published three times since the passage of a 1990 law mandating its publication, includes findings gathered by scientists from multiple federal agencies and has shown the devastating impact of human activity on rising global temperatures and related natural disasters in the U.S.

NOAA did not return inquiries into the possibility of the charter’s renewal but said the disbandment would “not impact the completion of the Fourth National Climate Assessment, which remains a key priority.” It’s scheduled for release next year.

The committee ― a panel of scientists, local government employees, corporate representatives and experts in related fields ― was tasked with decoding the findings from the climate assessment and developing guidelines for climate change-related endeavors, such as risk management and assessment efforts, economic policies, technology development and communication practices.

Members of the committee denounced the decision not to renew the committee’s charter and its wider implications.

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Marchers listen to speakers in Pershing Square during the March for Science in Los Angeles, California April 22, 2017.
“This is incredibly unfortunate for our country, and particularly the most vulnerable populations across the U.S.,” Maxine Burkett, a law professor at the University of Hawaii serving on the committee, wrote.

“Allowing our charter to lapse ends the process of providing recommendations on how to better support and strengthen our communities,” she said. The NAACP’s Environmental and Climate Justice Program, she pointed to as an example, had been sharing the committee’s information with “those at the crosshairs of sea-level rise, flooding, and extreme heat” ― all disasters linked to rising global temperatures.

“The work of our committee would have brought us closer to smart climate decisions on the ground and, with an equity lens, supported our communities to remain resilient together,” Burkett said.

Jessica Whitehead, the coastal communities hazards adaptation specialist for the North Carolina Sea Grant and another member of the committee, said she received confirmation of the committee’s expiration on Friday. The panel, she lamented, wasn’t given enough time time to carry out the work with which it had been tasked.

″[G]iven that our first meeting was in September 2016 and we received our charge to craft these recommendations from NOAA just in March 2017, we needed a renewed charter to give us enough time to really refine those concepts into actionable steps for NOAA and [the U.S. Global Change Research Program] to improve the NCA process,” she said.

The shutting down of the Sustained National Assessment Federal Advisory Committee will lessen our ability to manage climate risk, with the big losers being the American people.
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Letting charters expire is a kind of “action by inaction,” committee member Jerry Melillo, a scientist and director emeritus at the Marine Biological Laboratory’s Ecosystems Center, said. And he’s worried that may be a pattern emerging in the Trump administration. Earlier this summer, he noted, the Department of the Interior let the charter for a similar Obama-era panel, the Advisory Committee on Climate Change and Natural Resource Science, expire.

“The shutting down of the Sustained National Assessment Federal Advisory Committee will lessen our ability to manage climate risk, with the big losers being the American people,” Melillo warned.

The last NCA report, released in 2014, made those implications for U.S. residents clear, and many of the threats it predicted ― more triple-digit temperatures, increased precipitation catastrophes and the failing of dated infrastructure ― have already begun to emerge.

Burkett, for one, hopes the work of committee may continue in an unofficial capacity.

“The decision not to renew the charter seriously jeopardizes the potential for the NCA to serve our communities,” she said. “But committee members are undeterred ― and I suspect there will be more from us in our individual capacities.”

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Davy on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 9:53 am 



Blah, blah, is that true or not makat. You already said we will not know the truth with you. I am doing fine maybe it is you who are suffering from isolation and loneliness from a failed decision to leave your family. It is funny because you complain about my long winded comments but look at your dumbass defensive attacks. They are just mindless copy and paste hollow derisions about how screwed I am. Look in the mirror at your decaying world. My message is we are in this together and yours is you are screwed. Which has more balance and reality in a globalized world, right, mine.

GregT on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 9:59 am 



“Your personal vendetta for the US and your bragging about your insignificant new county has been a constant blemish on this board. A board that should be discussing survival risk and personal solutions.”

Those would be Makati’s solutions Davy, and his take on survival risk. You have no way of knowing whether his take is correct, or not. You have your shit all in a knot because you don’t like to hear what he has to say.

Makati is entitled to his opinions, and those would be informed opinions. Your opinions on his choices are not informed. They are emotional responses.

Davy on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 10:26 am 



Shut up grehg and go prick your boat obsession. I am defending myself against dumbasses like you and makat. Extremist who attack obsessively in gangs is what you all are. You are as bad as him. I just avoid you because you are a prick. You start obsessive cycles of dumbass. You are the board hypocrite and an unfortunate example of the worst of what Canada is. I like Canada until you and your fellow Canadian anti-Americans.

GregT on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 10:30 am 



Try to get your emotions under control Davy. Your constant name calling, and delusional accustaions, are not adding anything of value to the discussions here.

Cloggie on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 10:30 am 



In Holland free plastic bags are prohibited since 1.1.2016:

https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/afval/verbod-op-gratis-plastic-tassen

A price of 25 cents is advised.

The measure is a success, 83% now brings a bag, plastic or otherwise, from home:

https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nederland/verbod-op-gratis-plastic-tas-succes

Davy on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 10:37 am 



Quit pricking grehg. You need prick management therapy. Obsessively attacking people who don’t mess with you is a prick. If you are going to attack me you will get it back. You have one of the worst mouth on this board with boat. Name calling accuser who name calls…lol… hipocritical drivel dumbass. How is that prick?

GregT on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 10:44 am 



Big long deep breaths Davy, before you give yourself a brain aneurism.

Davy on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 10:51 am 



grehg, it is your constant responses that show I have you upset. You started this pricking. I am glad you are uncomfortable. Quit pricking grehg and you will feel better. I am not a boat you can kick around like a toy.

onlooker on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 10:54 am 



I have long since given up trying to gauge why posters chose to post here. I have liked posting here because of the range of topics and the acumen of some posters. My objective is to help myself prepare and others as well. To that end I like to shoot down ideas and solutions which are obviously not going to work or solve anything. Davy is right on the point of the whole world is not only interconnected but everyone is facing a suite of vulnerabilities. I hope that Davy and Makati can steer away from their feud in order for the discussions to make more headway and be more productive. They both are knowledgable and contribute many positive insights. So, beyond my personal curiousity, I am hoping we can altogether contribute useful information to individuals, communities and countries that they may avail themselves of this information to prepare for what is coming. Especially mentally, even if that means preparing for your and your famiilies untimely demise.

GregT on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 10:57 am 



Just stating the blatantly obvious Davy. You really need to learn how to get some semblance of control over your emotions.

Davy on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 11:14 am 



grehg, you are hillarious, you prick people then try to tell them they have issues. How stupid is that?

GregT on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 11:18 am 



Are you incapable of posting a comment without the usual childish rhetoric Davy?

Cloggie on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 11:19 am 



I have long since given up trying to gauge why posters chose to post here.

Out of habit and Ersatz social life. Peak oil came and went; Davy, Greg and Makati and others are here to stay.

Davy on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 11:21 am 



Are you incapable of posting a comment without the usual childish rhetoric grehg?

MASTERMIND on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 11:29 am 



Makati1

Are you aware that free will is a myth? BF Skinner taught us that and so did Pavlov. So why are you blaming Americans because you are just blaming the victims? People are products of their environments. Its as simple as that. So enough with your moral crusade.

GregT on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 11:31 am 



Shall we try again?

“Your personal vendetta for the US and your bragging about your insignificant new county has been a constant blemish on this board. A board that should be discussing survival risk and personal solutions.”

Those would be Makati’s solutions Davy, and his take on survival risk. You have no way of knowing whether his take is correct, or not. You have your shit all in a knot because you don’t like to hear what he has to say.

Makati is entitled to his opinions, and those would be informed opinions. Your opinions on his choices are not informed. They are emotional responses.

Davy on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 11:40 am 



grehg, are you obsessive compulsive?lol. grehg, if his personal solution and opinions attack me then I have a right to express my opinion of his attacks on me. Quit being a shallow dumbass grehg

Apneaman on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 11:48 am 



Total Eclipse of Industrial Civilization

“Each day net human population growth is roughly 200,000 people or almost equivalent to the bottom picture of Chandler, AZ. These people are educated and welcomed into the system which promises to reward them as full fledged members of the cancer with a little house in the suburbs, a car, vacation time and stuff, in return for working in one of the production cells. Commodities flow in and waste flows out along a mostly linear path. Everything in the vicinity and beyond is consumed to build the technological infrastructure and feed and care for the human RNA that work in the cancer cells. As long as conditions permit and fecundity or migration is adequate, it grows and grows and spreads like a human cancer, pursuing maximum accumulation of wealth and reproduction, unaware that it is all the time weakening the host or ecosystem.”

http://megacancer.com/2017/08/21/total-eclipse-of-industrial-civilization/

GregT on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 11:50 am 



He isn’t attacking you Davy. He is expressing his disdain for his country of birth, and over 60 years of life experience. He has made a choice based on his own personal opinions. Whether he is correct, or not, remains to be seen. Only time will tell. Just because you don’t happen to like his opinions, does not make them any less valid. Enough with the personal attacks, delusional accustaions, and childish rhetoric. You’ve been posting this crap every single day now, for over three years.

John Norris on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 12:07 pm 



“Literally 1 ton for each living human being on this planet!”

Not quite. 2015 population = 7.3B.

Davy on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 12:12 pm 



What kind of stupid answer is that grehg. You are just digging a deeper hole. You are pricking grehg. You don’t care about what he is saying. He is attacking me and I take that as an attack. I have that right. Selective use of facts in a routine and consistent presentation of extremism. IMA, one you participate in. You are a dirty person grehg. Playing high and mighty but who’s real intent is character assassination of individuals and a people. You disgust me but I try to ignore you. That is hard to do with a prick. A prick obsessively irritates others for personal pleasure. That is you to a “T”.

Davy on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 12:23 pm 



At the eclipse. Weather great. Using glasses and the sun is slowly being covered. Very special!

GregT on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 12:28 pm 



“who’s real intent is character assassination of individuals and a people.”

A people Davy? North America was ‘invaded’ by numerous different peoples. The indigenous people of the Americas have been marginalized, brutally slaughtered, and now represent a very small minority. And as you well know, the modern industrial experiment is coming to end. The ‘American Dream’ was never sustainable.

GregT on Mon, 21st Aug 2017 12:41 pm 



“You don’t care about what he is saying.”

Correct. I don’t. I have no emotional attachment to a way of life that is leading the entire planet down the path to global mass extinction.