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Despite tariffs that President Trump imposed on imported panels, the U.S. installed more solar energy than any other source of electricity in the first quarter.
Developers installed 2.5 gigawatts of solar in the first quarter, up 13 percent from a year earlier, according to a report Tuesday from the Solar Energy Industries Association and GTM Research. That accounted for 55 percent of all new generation, with solar panels beating new wind and natural gas turbines for a second straight quarter.
U.S. installations are expected to be flat in 2018 as tariffs and tax reform drive up costs
Source: Solar Energy Industries Association and GTM Research
Note: 2018 figures are forecast
The growth came even as tariffs on imported panels threatened to increase costs for developers. Giant fields of solar panels led the growth as community solar projects owned by homeowners and businesses took off. Total installations this year are expected to be 10.8 gigawatts, or about the same as last year, according to GTM. By 2023, annual installations should reach more than 14 gigawatts.
“Solar has become a common-sense option for much of the U.S., and is too strong to be set back for long, even in light of the tariffs,” SEIA Chief Executive Officer Abigail Ross Hopper said in a statement.
139 Comments on "Solar Overtakes Gas, Wind as Source of New US Power"
Davy on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 10:03 am
What did you do grehggie juan, shuffle paperwork and call it finance? Working in finance related fields and understanding global finance are two different things. A bank teller works in finance but many don’t understand finance. You retired because of the Vancouver housing casino and a doctor wife not anything you did special. You need a job.
Davy on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 10:05 am
“The status quo is destroying the planet Davy, and is unsustainable.”
Well yes, who do you want to die to alleviate this predicament? I know part of the answer and it is 360MIL number.
Davy on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 10:07 am
“If the U.S. does not refrain from using nuclear weapons the rest of humanity will not be fine and there will be no multipolar world. That is a fact.“
Lol, how did you figure that out?
GregT on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 10:10 am
“That is your opinion and one of your biggest delusions grehggie juan, but not fact.”
Calling JuanP grehggie juan is delusional Davy.
GregT on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 10:17 am
“Well yes, who do you want to die to alleviate this predicament? I know part of the answer and it is 360MIL number.”
I don’t want anybody to die Davy, but unfortunately overshoot is going to eventually lead to a die off. And by 360MIL, I can only assume that you are referring to the U.S. population? Which BTW, is 326MIL, not 360. And no I don’t wish for the U.S. population to die off either.
More paranoid delusions on your part. Everyone is out to get the big bad US of A. LOL.
GregT on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 10:22 am
“You retired because of the Vancouver housing casino and a doctor wife not anything you did special. You need a job.”
I retired at 53 Davy, because I managed my finances well. As mentioned to you numerous times before, my wife does not need to work, and why would I want, or need another ‘job’? I’m comfortably retired, and enjoy not having to answer to anybody other than myself.
More delusions on your part.
GregT on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 10:24 am
“Lol, how did you figure that out?”
So now you agree with JuanP? Make up your mind Davy.
Davy on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 10:31 am
I am calling you grehggie juan. You two are the dynamic anti-American duo.
Davy on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 10:36 am
Then quit whining grehggie juan and pointing finger for something that will happen naturally. You are just saying the obvious and acting like there are alternatives and you l, almighty grehggie juan, have been given this devine revelations. The real reason you make any of these comments is just to stalk and prick an American. This is why many of your comments are stupidly obvious.
Davy on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 10:38 am
Why brag about yourself grehggie juan? This is the Internet. Who knows the real story. I imagine your therapist recommended a job for therapy.
GregT on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 10:41 am
“I am calling you grehggie juan. You two are the dynamic anti-American.”
I am not anti-American Davy. We’ve been through this hundreds of times before.
Davy on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 10:41 am
Greggie juan, you embellished that reference to your buddy Juan’s comment. Stick with the subject of your comment.
Davy on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 10:42 am
You sound like an alcoholic.
MASTERMIND on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 10:45 am
Would you guys please stop..Neither of you know for sure who you are even arguing with..Enough with the dick measuring contest..Do you guys really want to waste your last few precious years arguing with people you don’t know and will never meet?
GregT on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 10:46 am
“The real reason you make any of these comments is just to stalk and prick an American. This is why many of your comments are stupidly obvious.”
Man are you ever thick Davy. Let’s try this one more time shall we? I couldn’t care less what tax farm you were born into. I’ve had enough of your 5 year long insane tirade of name calling, childish rhetoric, and delusional accusations.
GregT on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 10:49 am
“Why brag about yourself grehggie juan? This is the Internet. Who knows the real story. I imagine your therapist recommended a job for therapy.”
I was defending myself Davy, from yet another one of your delusional personal attacks.
My username is not grehggie juan, and I have never seen a therapist.
More of your delusions.
GregT on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 10:53 am
“Greggie juan, you embellished that reference to your buddy Juan’s comment.”
Juan is not my buddy Davy, I’ve never even met him, and he lives a thousand miles away from me. I didn’t embellish his comment, I only made it easier for someone of your intellectual capacity to understand, which apparently you did.
GregT on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 11:02 am
“You sound like an alcoholic”
It is obvious that most things sound to you differently than reality Davy. That would be the reason why many people here refer to you as being delusional.
Davy on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 11:51 am
“Man are you ever thick Davy. Let’s try this one more time shall we? I couldn’t care less what tax farm you were born into. I’ve had enough of your 5 year long insane tirade of name calling, childish rhetoric, and delusional accusations.”
What’s your excuse for “5 year long insane tirade of name calling, childish rhetoric, and delusional accusations.” I am tired of 5 long years of you stalking and pricking me. I have offered multiple times to ignore you if you ignore me but no, gehggie juan can’t stand it. He has to be the board knight in shining armor. You also like organizing your groupie gang to engage in you focused suppression and anti-American agenda. You enjoy this shit and promote it. It gives you pleasure to whine and prick. If what you say is true then ignore me and I will ignore you.
Davy on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 11:55 am
“ I was defending myself Davy, from yet another one of your delusional personal attacks.”
Ah, if you would really like to defend yourself do not offend people. Quit your stalking and pricking. It isn’t hard to be a normal person and leave people alone. You screw with me and I will make sure you get every bit of it back. So quit your stupid whining.
Davy on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 11:59 am
“Juan is not my buddy Davy, I’ve never even met him, and he lives a thousand miles away from me. I didn’t embellish his comment, I only made it easier for someone of your intellectual capacity to understand, which apparently you did.”
LIAR
Cloggie on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 12:00 pm
Would you guys please stop..Neither of you know for sure who you are even arguing with..Enough with the dick measuring contest..Do you guys really want to waste your last few precious years arguing with people you don’t know and will never meet?
For the first and probably last time I agree with millimind. Can we stop filling thread after thread with nothing but personal insults. It’s getting old.
Davy on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 12:01 pm
“It is obvious that most things sound to you differently than reality Davy. That would be the reason why many people here refer to you as being delusional.”
By many I think you are referring to the groupie gang? WTF, kind of answer is that stupid.
Davy on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 12:04 pm
“Would you guys please stop..Neither of you know for sure who you are even arguing with..Enough with the dick measuring contest..Do you guys really want to waste your last few precious years arguing with people you don’t know and will never meet? For the first and probably last time I agree with millimind. Can we stop filling thread after thread with nothing but personal insults. It’s getting old.”
Both of you dumbasses shut up because you do it all the time. If you will read my comment I offered to ignore asswipe grehggie and asswipe juan. I said it and they have no interest. The last thing I care to hear is the nedernazi and the millimind whine about board comments that annoy them. You dumbasses have this board in the gutter. Bite yourself if you are having trouble with your feelings.
GregT on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 12:25 pm
I have already told you multiple times Davy, as long as you continue to attack others here I will continue to call you out.
Juan told you the same 3 days ago, but you just don’t know when to shut your yappy little trap.
GregT on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 12:40 pm
“By many I think you are referring to the groupie gang? WTF, kind of answer is that stupid.”
There is no ‘groupie gang’ Davy. Just a bunch of completely separate individuals who have all had enough of your constant bullshit.
Davy on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 2:01 pm
Like I said greggie you mess with me I will give you it back 150%. Quit stalking and pricking your extremism. I will ignore it if you leave me alone otherwise enjoy your beating. I believe you do and that is why I think you are sick.
Davy on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 2:02 pm
Well folks you got your selfish answer from grehggie juan.
Davy on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 2:04 pm
Grehggie, your groupie gang attacks people in groups so go bite yourself. Bite hard so you realize you are awake not dreaming. What a joke.
Boney Joe on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 2:11 pm
To “Exceptionalisturd”:
Turd, your thoughts reflect AND project perfectly like a mirror; the subconscious perceptions that are held about the Self. What you fail to comprehend is your frequent bullying and incessant assaults are a perfect reflection of your state of mind and how you feel about yourself on the inside. Your resentment and anger toward others reveals anger and contempt of yourself, rooted in jealously, fear, and a sense of failure with who you are, questioning your ability to aptly compete with others.
Turd, use this knowledge to become more self-aware and introspective. By doing so, you can diffuse inner conflict and confusion and become a pacifist of the mind rather then a bellicose, xenophobic, and hateful Trumptard of the mind.
Clean-up your act, now.
Boney Joe on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 2:13 pm
Exceptionalisturd = Davy
onlooker on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 2:25 pm
I agree with MM, surely we can ALL find something to talk about even argue about without filling this board with incessant back and forth insults. You ALL are too smart for that. Time is getting short let’s not waste it.
Davy on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 2:26 pm
Hi bony Juan. You love playing with puppets. Not hard to tell who is who here. Bite yourself and taste your blood.
MASTERMIND on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 2:47 pm
JuanP has gone silent..I think maybe he smuggled in a mobile phone into the psych ward..And maybe they found it..
Cloggie on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 2:52 pm
“JuanP has gone silent..I think maybe he smuggled in a mobile phone into the psych ward..And maybe they found it..”
He just saw Russia beating Egypt. Russia in 8th-final.
MASTERMIND on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 3:05 pm
Clogg
Keep sucking the cock of the worlds richest elite Putin..You brainwashed simpleton..
GregT on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 3:19 pm
“Hi bony Juan. You love playing with puppets. Not hard to tell who is who here. Bite yourself and taste your blood.”
Definitely not JuanP, but whoever it was has an excellent grasp of basic psychology and nailed you to a T Davy.
You’ve got so many issues buddy, they could write an entire encyclopedia analyzing you.
JuanP on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 3:24 pm
I had shit to do and then I watched Russia’s game. Russia beat Egypt 3-1. From RT “the only way Russia could fail to get to the knock-outs would be if Saudi Arabia were to score two big wins in its remaining games, and if Uruguay were to inflict a massive defeat upon the team in their remaining game.” With 6 points, 8 goals in its favor, and a +7 goal difference Russia is essentially the first team to qualify for the second round. The deal will be, technically, sealed if Uruguay defeats Saudi Arabia tomorrow as expected, making Russia and Uruguay the first two teams to officially qualify for the Russia 2018 World Cup second round. Go Russia! Go Uruguay!
JuanP on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 3:35 pm
Delusional Davy “Hi bony Juan. You love playing with puppets. Not hard to tell”
Can’t stop thinking about me, Davy? I already told you I am not Joe. They say a liar won’t believe in anyone else. So true about you, exceptionalist! LOL! I really enjoy yhe fact that you are tortured by my existence even when I am somewhere else. Keep writing stupid insults and proving what a moron you are.
JuanP on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 3:43 pm
Boney Joe “To “Exceptionalisturd”:
Turd, your thoughts reflect AND project perfectly like a mirror; the subconscious perceptions that are held about the Self. What you fail to comprehend is your frequent bullying and incessant assaults are a perfect reflection of your state of mind and how you feel about yourself on the inside. Your resentment and anger toward others reveals anger and contempt of yourself, rooted in jealously, fear, and a sense of failure with who you are, questioning your ability to aptly compete with others.
Turd, use this knowledge to become more self-aware and introspective. By doing so, you can diffuse inner conflict and confusion and become a pacifist of the mind rather then a bellicose, xenophobic, and hateful Trumptard of the mind.
Clean-up your act, now.”
I had to go back to see what fired up the exceptionalist. That was pretty good, Joe! I have to admit, though, that I agree with Davy on one thing; my intuition tells me that Joe is a sock puppet. I got no idea who he is. I suspect it could be one of the regulars using a different sign in to confront Davy about his bullying and insane behavior.
Cloggie on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 3:45 pm
Keep sucking the cock of the worlds richest elite Putin..You brainwashed simpleton..
Yes the grapes must be sour, eh?
https://goo.gl/images/e9Dfdy
https://goo.gl/images/CCgYja
You guys are making too many mistakes and suffer too many defeats. That will have grave consequences.
https://goo.gl/images/ax2uij
MASTERMIND on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 3:51 pm
Cloggnative dissonance
Europe’s depression is never going to end..That is what Larry Summers said at the IMF convention back in 2014..it doesn’t matter who is the political leaders..You can’t vote in prosperity..You are being played by the elites..
Antius on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 4:04 pm
Cloggie, At the risk of being a sarcastic git, I can’t help but notice that I keep having to go through the same stuff over and over again. It’s a bit like Groundhog day, without Bill Murray 🙂
Jancovici’s study was based upon what would be required for a 100% renewable electricity system for France, based exclusively on either wind or solar and assuming present day power consumption. The high costs come from the grid extensions and huge amounts of storage that are needed to cover temporal variations in the abundance of electricity, which is far more pronounced for solar power. The apparently modest cost of primary renewable converters is largely squandered due to transmission and storage losses. Storage and grid extension adds huge capital costs. His study no doubt lacks lateral thinking; there are a variety of storage and demand management technologies that can be combined to do the job more cheaply than his simple scenarios. But he is wrong only in the magnitude of his calculations. His basic conclusion, that a renewable electricity system will be much more expensive than a like for like replacement with pressurised water reactors is not in doubt.
The problem can be talked around, but is essentially very simple. To produce a steady 1 unit of power using a renewable energy source, you need enough converters to produce 1 unit of power on a time average basis, plus enough additional converters to cover storage and transmission losses. Then you need some sort of energy storage system, that must be rated to cover the maximum excess of demand over renewable energy production at any one time. It must also be capable of absorbing energy at high rates, because a lot of the energy absorbed by the store will arrive during limited time periods. In simple terms, you need 2.5 power plants to provide the output of just one dispatchable power plant. One of those power plants will need to be huge, as it includes the energy store. The renewable energy converters do not appear particularly expensive on a per unit power basis, but factor in storage losses and the capital cost of transmission and suddenly they aren’t that cheap anymore.
I am discussing the problem qualitatively and in simplistic terms. But what we are essentially fighting against is the second law of thermodynamics. By powering human society with solar and wind energy, we are attempting to draw high quality thermodynamic work, from a relatively high entropy (diffuse and variable) primary energy source. The higher costs (transmission and storage) stem from attempting to overcome those entropic effects. There are ways of managing those costs and we have discussed some of them before. But the bottom line is, no one ever defeats the second law of thermodynamics.
Davy on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 4:14 pm
Come on Juan, not very convincing. Who cares about your sock’s opinion anyway. He is just another loser personality you are living. I bet you got the handle name idea from one of the gay bars you frequent on the beach.
GregT on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 4:39 pm
” I bet you got the handle name idea from one of the gay bars you frequent on the beach.”
Homophobic as well Davy? I’m sure you know very well what the stats show about homophobes.
Cloggie on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 4:52 pm
Jancovici’s study was based upon what would be required for a 100% renewable electricity system for France, based exclusively on either wind or solar and assuming present day power consumption.
Here it already begins. There is more than solar and wind. Essential is geothermal for space heating with heat pumps. And what about biomass in agricultural France?
The high costs come from the grid extensions and huge amounts of storage that are needed to cover temporal variations in the abundance of electricity, which is far more pronounced for solar power.
What is “huge”? Countries often have strategic oil reserves to the tune of 6 months or more. It doesn’t make a difference if the oil is replaced with renewable produced NH3, methanol, whatever.
But as you admit, we can’t decide the matter in a short post. For me cost is only one aspect, safety, non-proliferation of nuclear weapons, suitability for the lesser technological gods in the third world, everything, in my view, points towards renewables.
Until proven to the contrary, I assume the Fraunhofer institute did its homework, when it developed a model of society, dynamically optimized the model and came to the conclusion that a renewable energy system will be operational at similar cost as our current fossil one.
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2017/09/16/blueprint-100-renewable-energy-base-for-germany/
Europe has decided that it is going to be renewable energy, with some nuclear for French nuclear weapons. I support that view, on principal grounds. Nuclear energy is fundamentally unacceptable, regardless of cost.
Cloggie on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 4:53 pm
…but is seems that the nuclear opportunities in China are endless:
http://english.cctv.com/2017/08/22/ARTIW25t94UIAGZPqPlGeAaI170822.shtml
MASTERMIND on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 4:53 pm
Clogg
What happened to Spain’s solar industry? It went bankrupt! Just like they all do! LMFAO!
And when the oil runs out so will end the renewable s fantasy..you dumb neckbeard loser..
MASTERMIND on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 5:00 pm
Clogg
America’s rising suicide rate
Research suggests that poor, white men may be particularly at risk
https://www.economist.com/democracy-in-america/2018/06/15/americas-rising-suicide-rate
Muh white race!
LMFAO!!
JuanP on Tue, 19th Jun 2018 5:02 pm
Delusional Davy “Come on Juan, not very convincing. Who cares about your sock’s opinion anyway. He is just another loser personality you are living. I bet you got the handle name idea from one of the gay bars you frequent on the beach.”
I’ve always known that Davy is a closet homophobe, and now we have proof. If you think you insult me by saying that I frequent gay bars, Davy, you couldn’t be more stupid or wrong. I don’t go to bars, but, if I did I wouldn’t care whether they were gay or not. I don’t care who other people sleep with, as long as we are talking about consensual sex betwwen adults. I consider anyone who does care who others have sex with a moron. Apparently there is no human flaw you lack, exceptionalist. You are an exceptionally deficient human being; the worst I have ever met.