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The title for this series of posts started out as “Preparing for collapse”, but in my last post I immediately went into a rant about how I see a hard, fast, world-crippling collapse as pretty improbable. What I’m observing instead is a slow collapse that has already been happening for several decades and will continue for several more, albeit with much the same end result as a fast collapse. KMO, one of my favourite podcasters and a follower of this blog, suggested a better title would be Responding to Collapse, and that’s what I’ll be using from now on. Thanks, KMO.
Of course, I expect that the degree of collapse will become more intense as time passes, and it is that which we should try to prepare for (or respond to). Times will become gradually harder and occasionally bad things will happen that make things quite a bit worse all at once. But things will be much worse in some areas than others and if you are clever you can arrange to be where you’ll miss the worst of it. Though if you think you can arrange to miss all of it, you’re kidding yourself.
Over the next few posts I’ll be offering some rules of thumb for surviving collapse. But always remember not to follow any rule off a cliff. Look at your own current circumstances and adjust my ideas fit.
All of what I am suggesting here only works if the great majority of people ignore my advice or, more likely, never hear it in the first place. One of our biggest problems, now and for quite a while yet, is that there are too many people living on this planet. If a great many people where to head in the direction I am pointing, the advantage of being there would immediately go away.
This is already starting to play out in some parts of the world where things are getting bad enough politically, economically and/or climate-wise that many are leaving in desperation. I am talking about places like the Middle East, North Africa, Venezuela and to some extent even Puerto Rico, where people are leaving for the mainland U.S. in droves. As the numbers of refugees mount the welcome they receive gets less enthusiastic. But bear in mind that the only real choice you will have in this situation is to be part of the influx of refugees or to be among of those who are welcoming it. I would say that the latter role is very much preferable. A timely move, before things get serious, can put you on the right side of things.
And those of you who applaud their government for clamping down on immigrants and immigration, consider this: if your government is so ready to mistreat “those people”, how long will they hesitate to treat you similarly when it becomes convenient? Better to take part in the political process (vote, as a minimum) and work towards a government with more humane and progressive policies.
Some of those bad things that might make you want to move will be caused by climate change and today I’d like to focus on the negative effects of climate change, specifically higher temperatures and changing rainfall patterns.
I should say in advance that if you are in denial about climate change, please go somewhere else where you’ll be more welcome. I simply don’t have the energy or inclination to engage with you. As far as I am concerned it’s happening, we’re causing it by adding CO2 and other greenhouse gases to the atmosphere, and it’s going to get worse for quite a while yet. Especially since it doesn’t seem like we are going to do anything about reducing green house gas emissions until collapse forces us to drastically reduce our use of fossil fuels and our level of consumption in general. At the same time, I give very little credence to those who talk about near term extinction of the human race. That’s way too much of an easy way out, and little more than an excuse for inaction.
Much of how we have come to live over the last few thousand years was determined by the climate, which has been fairly stable and accommodating to the way we practice agriculture. Based on this, we have been a very successful species, at least if you judge by how we have spread over the planet and how our population has grown. During the last couple of centuries energy from fossil fuels has enabled us to become even more “successful”. We have overcome some challenges that had previously been insurmountable and managed to feed an ever growing population.
The Green Revolution involved some “improved” plant varieties that give startlingly better yields in response to optimized irrigation, fertilization and pest control, all of which have been facilitated by the ready availability of cheap energy. Unfortunately, this has involved the use of non-renewable resources such as fossil fuels, the water in fossil aquifers, and deposits of potash and phosphorous.
We’ve managed to live and even farm in areas that were previously deserts. and we’ve been able to ship food from all over the world to areas where the population couldn’t even remotely be supported by local agriculture. But the days of cheap fossil fuels, fertilizers and pesticides, abundant fossil water, and low cost worldwide shipping (with refrigeration as needed) are coming to an end at the same time as the climate is going crazy. We’re are going to have to adapt as best we can.
So, let’s have a closer a look at the consequences of climate change.
There is no doubt that the climate is warming worldwide and will continue to do so. That warming is much more intense in the high latitudes, leading to melting of major ice shields in Greenland and Antarctica. Mountain glaciers are also melting and disappearing at an alarming rate. To make matters worse, the water and land exposed by melting ice is much less reflective that the ice was and retains more of the heat from the sun rather than reflecting it back into space, leading to even more warming.
Ice is only about 89.5% as dense as sea water. This is why about 10% of the mass of an iceberg sticks out of the water, and why when ice floating in sea water melts, it does not change the level of the water. So the ice covering the Arctic Ocean will have no effect on sea level as it melts. But ice sitting on land does increase sea level when it melts and runs into the sea. This is true of the ice in Greenland and in mountain glaciers, and of much of the ice in Antarctica.
The loss of mountain glaciers also effects the way in which precipitation is stored and flows into rivers and we’ll get to that in a moment, but for now, let’s concentrate on sea level rise.
Interestingly, sea level isn’t the same everywhere. When we speak of altitudes “above sea level” we are talking about “Mean Sea Level”, which is an average level of the surface of one or more of Earth’s oceans. But what we are concerned about here is the actual sea level at any particular location, and this can differ quite a bit from one location to another, and from one time to another, as the sea is in constant motion, affected by the tides, wind, atmospheric pressure, local gravitational differences, temperature, salinity and so forth. In addition to melting ice, sea level has been increasing during at least the last century as the oceans have heated up due to climate change. Further, many human settlements are built on river deltas, where subsidence of land contributes to a substantially increased effective sea level rise. This is caused by both unsustainable extraction of groundwater (in some places also by extraction of oil and gas), and by levees and other flood management practices that prevent accumulation of sediments from compensating for the natural settling of deltaic soils.
Here is an interactive map that illustrates what areas will be flooded as sea level rises. You can select the amount of rise and scroll around and zoom in to see the effect on the parts of the world that interest you most.
When I initially looking at that map, even with the sea level rise set to the highest level, it didn’t seem all that bad—there will be lots of dry land left. But, zooming in and giving it a little further thought, I realized that the missing piece of information is what currently occupies the relatively small areas that would be flooded—a whole lot of people, many of whom are living in the world’s largest and most economically important cities.
It’s hard to nail down how many people will get their feet wet for any particular increase in sea level, but I did find one article that discusses this in some detail.
The writer says,
“Current estimates for the absolute maximum sea level rise, if the glaciers at both poles melted, range from 225 to 365 feet, with the latter being more likely accurate. If sea levels rose that much, coastal lands would be depressed several meters and transgressive erosion would also occur. So, for instance, even though Long Island has many points that are above 300 feet or so, none of it would survive the transgressive erosion because it is all glacial till. It is hard to extrapolate from the numbers above to a 100+ meter rise, and improper to do so, but consider that if the human population is concentrated near the seas, and 10% live below the 10 meter line, then it is probably true that well more than half live below the 100 meter line, and many more within the area that would be claimed by the sea through erosion and depression.”
But while all that ice may well melt eventually, most sources predict that sea level will only go up a few feet during this century. That would be less destructive, but even moderate increases in sea level combined with more severe and more frequent storms, and with tides (if the timing of those storms is bad), will result in previously unheard of damage to seaside settlements. We’ve already seen some of this with Katrina, Sandy and several storms (Harvey, Irma, Maria) in the fall 2017, that hit the Gulf Coast, Puerto Rico and Florida. As I write this, Hurricane Florence is heading for the Carolinas. It promises to last longer and bring with it a lot of rain due to the unusually high temperatures associated with it
Clearly, you’ll want to be away from the seashore. But you don’t want to jump from the pan directly into the fire, so we need t look at what other climate change related problems you might face farther inland. In an attempt to increase the content value of this post, I found some more maps which illustrate the effect climate change is going to have over the coming decades.
- Projections of Future Changes in Climate, by The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
- Regional Maps on Migration, Environment and Climate Change, Environmental Migration Portal
- Visualizing a Warmer World: 10 Maps of Climate Vulnerability, by Stefanie Tye, Emily Nilson and Lauretta Burke, World Resources Institute
- Climate—How is climate changing? Partnership for Resilience and Preparedness
Climate change is a global problem, but in my search it became obvious that quite a lot more information is available for the U.S. and Canada, and since many of my readers are from North America, I’m including some of that information here.
- Nine maps that show how climate change is already affecting the US, by Brad Plumer, Vox
- Future Climate, National Climate Assessment, U.S. Global Change Research Program
- New maps highlight changes coming to Canada’s climate, Prairie Climate Centre
- Monthly Temperature and Precipitation Delta Maps, Prairie Climate Centre
Looking at those maps and a lot of other study led me to the following conclusions:
Tropical storms can do quite a bit of damage fairly far inland—look at what Maria did to Puerto Rico—even the mountainous inland parts of the island. This is something to take into consideration if you currently live in the Caribbean, near the gulf coast of the U.S. or near the eastern board of the U.S. Tropical storms in the Pacific and Indian Oceans are not something we hear much about in the mass media in North America, but they do happen and have lots of potential for damage to human settlements. If you live where this happens you’re probably well aware of it and can take it into account in your plans.
People are often proud of the way they have managed to rebuild after storms, and this is fine if you’re talking about storms that only happen once a century or so. But as storms become more frequent the financial resources to rebuild every few years will dwindle away. The best time to move is when things have recovered nicely from the most recent storm, but well before the next one. Of course, if it looks like recovery isn’t going to happen, then it’s time to get out, regardless of the cost.
It always astonishes me the way people are willing, perhaps even eager, to build or move into accommodation on the floodplains of rivers. The story is always that the river floods only very rarely and hasn’t flooded in a long time. Now that sounds to me like a promise that flooding can be expected shortly even without climate change. But as climate change brings more violent storms even outside the tropics and changes in the pattern of precipitation and spring melting of the winter snow pack, more frequent floods are a certainty. So don’t be fooled when moving into a new area—stay away from floodplains and areas likely to be undercut by erosion.
Heat waves are becoming more common everywhere, but particularly in the tropics. Many areas will eventually get to the point where they will be uninhabitable for large parts of the year if you don’t have air conditioning or housing designed to cope. As always, the poor will be hardest hit.
The lack of water can be just as much of a problem as too much.
Already deserts are expanding and they will continue to do so, consuming the semi desert areas surrounding the desert where people have been living and are now forced to leave. This is already happening in North Africa and the Middle East and is the root cause of a lot of political unrest.
Droughts are becoming more common and are striking areas that traditionally have not suffered droughts. The Pacific Northwest, including California and British Columbia, is one such example. Even areas such as the one where I live, which is getting slightly more precipitation overall, are suffering from changes in when the precipitation happens. In the case of southern Ontario, we’re getting more precipitation in fall, winter and spring but less in the summer. This is a problem for agriculture hereabouts, which has traditionally relied on getting a sufficient rain in the summer.
There are areas in the southwest of the U.S. that have traditionally been seen as deserts, but during the twentieth century were made to bloom, using water from pump from fossil aquifers and rivers dammed and diverted. Unfortunately the aquifers are just about depleted and all the water in the rivers is being used while demand still grows. As precipitation decreases and temperatures increase even at higher altitudes, there is less accumulation of snow and glaciers melt away, meaning that rivers fed by melting snow and ice run dry earlier in the summer, if they run at all.
There is a great deal to be said about areas outside of North America, but this would require a lot more research on my part and delay the publication of this post even more. But I was reading recently that Spain and Portugal are experiencing a severe drought, and it is expected to get worse.
People have difficultly responding rationally to these sorts of problems. Slowly increasing temperatures, slowly rising sea levels and slowly spreading desertification are the kind of thing that we tend to let future generations worry about, thinking it’s not going to happen here, not just yet anyway. Then one day it does happen and many are caught unprepared.
Catastrophes that happen irregularly and unpredictably, like storms, heat waves, droughts and forest fires, are the kind of thing we live through and convince ourselves won’t be happening again anytime soon. But as climate change progresses, they will become ever more frequent and more difficult to recover from.
Don’t be caught in denial—where ever you are, you’ll be experiencing some negative effects from climate change. But in some places, those effects will be overwhelming and the only viable response is to move away. Better to be well ahead of the rush. If you own property, better to get it sold while there are still buyers who haven’t caught on to what’s happening.
So, you’re looking for a place that is, and will continue to be:
- well above sea level
- not at the top of a bluff overlooking the sea that is being gradually eroded away
- not situated so as to take the full brunt of tropical storms
- not in the floodplain of a river
- not in a desert or semi-desert that relies on water from fossil aquifers that are being depleted faster than they are replenished or rivers fed by glacial melt water
- not subject to hot season temperatures or heat waves that are not survivable if the power goes out or you can’t afford air conditioning
- receiving enough rain to allow for agriculture
- with a growing season and soil that will support agriculture
In addition to the problems caused by climate change, the other two main concerns of this blog (resource depletion and economic contraction) are going to see most of us becoming quite a bit poorer, and not relying on anything that uses much energy, including shipping things in from far away. Most of our own food will have to be grown locally and the smaller amount of “stuff” we consume will be made locally.
In a future post (coming soon) I’ll be talking about coping with the challenge of finding and fitting into a community that can survive under these conditions. For now I’ll just say don’t assume that collapse will relieve you of the necessity of earning a living in the growth based capitalist economy. It’s going to take a long time to switch over to a low energy, low consumption, non-growth economy and in the meantime, most of us will have to keep a foot in both worlds, and initially mainly in the currently existing world.
So any plan for a move will have to take into account the necessity of earning a living where ever you go. You may well find that the pressure of earning a living pushes you in the opposite direction from what collapse related planning would indicate is best.
Next time I’ll look at the socio-economic side of things—the problems caused when we are surrounded by too many people and by too few, often at the same time.
Darrell Cloud on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 9:54 am
The author presents us with two competing narratives. On the one hand he states that: “One of our biggest problems, now and for quite a while yet, is that there are too many people living on this planet. If a great many people where to head in the direction I am pointing, the advantage of being there would immediately go away.”
On the other he states that: “And those of you who applaud their government for clamping down on immigrants and immigration, consider this: if your government is so ready to mistreat “those people”, how long will they with more humane and hesitate to treat you similarly when it becomes convenient? Better to take part in the political process (vote, as a minimum) and work towards a government progressive policies.”
Clearly the author understands that immigrants can soon overwhelm the carrying capacity of a given location, but he does not want the local government to protect its own citizens by attempting to impede a massive influx of immigrants.
The logic of this escapes me.
Here we go again on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 9:59 am
Unfortunately, doesn’t really matter as far the main need..food….when a worldwide crop(s) failure occurs..the SHTF regardless of peak oil….no food on the shelves at the local Food Super Mart will really hit the people across the head and wake them up real good…Well, perhaps not?
Outcast_Searcher on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 10:41 am
Here we go: And why, pray tell, would a “worldwide crop failure” occur, all at once?
Short of something like a giant meteor hitting the earth (and if that happens we have far bigger problems world wide within days), that’s not a realistic scenario.
Crops gradually becoming harder to grow due to drought (i.e. desertification), changing climate generally, more storms, too much heat, etc. — sure, but the key word there is GRADUALLY.
Now, whether people overall are smart enough to change when (if) food becomes clearly an issue for most or all, which would be strongly signaled by higher prices — is a good question. If they responded by having far less kids, for one example, that could be a good thing, over time.
But the usual doomer trope about pretending that there will be some massive sudden “collapse” of critical resource X, without giving any meaningful reason, just lacks any worthwhile credibility.
Chrome Mags on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 1:06 pm
My opinion is it doesn’t suddenly collapse, but for many it may get harder, i.e. a slow collapse on the periphery. For those making lots of dough the world remains their oyster and will continue to do so, for one basic reason; whatever resources are available will be used by those that have the means to use them.
Some may say that at a certain point of slow collapse people will rebel and the whole shebang will collapse, but I disagree, because people accept their new reality as it degrades like they accept new reality as the images are changing in a sleeping dream. Even if life gets extremely harsh, people tend to take their lumps. Sure, some will act out as a final expression of frustration but that doesn’t bring down the whole system.
That’s why any kind of slow collapse is so harsh, because so many will struggle to try and keep up only to fall behind over an over again until they are eating a can of cold food in a vehicle that can no longer move, with the last of their belongings in the back seat, as they watch Tesla’s drive by with people in them dressed up going to a posh restaurant.
Davy on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 1:24 pm
“sure, but the key word there is GRADUALLY.”
Sure but what is the definition of gradually and how severe. Ultimately it comes down to degree and duration of shocks that define a bottleneck occurrence. Climate has been known to abruptly change within a decade or two. I tend to think this is going to be a gradual process of difficult changes over decades but interspersed with extremes. Remember the law of the minimum and how vulnerable our whole food system can be from monocultures and economies of scale.
Davy on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 1:29 pm
“Some may say that at a certain point of slow collapse people will rebel and the whole shebang will collapse, but I disagree, because people accept their new reality as it degrades like they accept new reality as the images are changing in a sleeping dream.”
I agree to some extent but I see you point as very much location based influenced by degree/duration factors. Some places will not be fit to live in because of climate, social fabric, and or economics.
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 1:48 pm
Simple really….when the World Economy Collapses everything shuts down…the end… We’re talking about grids down all over the world and 7.5B people dropping like f*** flies in short order. The collapse will be absolutely horrible..There is no collapse or horror movie ever produced that has even come close to imagining what the collapse of BAU might look like. I’m talking about every corporation and every social program going bankrupt at once. I’m talking about people eating people. I’m talking about the Worst Catastrophe to ever happen in the history of mankind. Nothing has ever, or will ever come close…(Meadows, 1972) (Motesharrei, 2014) (Turchin, 2010) (Ehrlich, 2013) (Turner, 2014) (Korowicz, 2012)
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/apocalypse-soon-has-civilization-passed-the-environmental-point-of-no-return/
https://www.nature.com/articles/463608a
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921800914000615
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3574335/
https://www.scribd.com/document/379418787/Is-Global-Collapse-Imminent-An-Updated-Comparison-of-The-Limits-to-Growth-with-Historical-Data-Turner-2014
http://www.feasta.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Trade-Off1.pdf
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 1:53 pm
self-imposed white genocide
https://i.redd.it/ec1a8g9or5w11.jpg
energy investor on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 4:13 pm
Well Irvine,
You seem able to ignore the fact that it is population pressure that is causing both the polar bear and human migrations.
You seem to ignore the fact that it is the places where population growth is highest that people are having to leave from. What was there about Rev Dr Thomas Malthus’ “Essays on Population” of 1798 did you not understand? Europeans could at least migrate migrate then. Now the global human population has gone from less than 1 billion to now 7.7 billion.
The poor old polar bears have only doubled in numbers since 1950. But they are more range dependent.
Do you realise that every time we humans light a fire or drive a car we warm the atmosphere around us? That has nothing to do with CO2 or CH4 changing climate despite the fact they are greenhouse gases.
Do you understand that 80%+ of the atmospheric greenhouse gas is actually water vapor and there is no evidence that CO2 is a major contributor to climate change despite 35 years of efforts to prove it.
Only 0.041 of 1 percent constitutes CO2, yet it is essential for all life on earth.
Do you understand that despite warnings in 1989 that humans had only ten years to fix the CO2 problem or there would be catastrophe, we have just been given another 10 years with the same dire warning – almost 30 years later? The only difference is the tens of billions that have been given to IPCC sponsored organisations to create models that have to date never worked or predicted anything other than reaffirming what is the AGW climate fraud..
You do realise the ice in the Arctic was meant to have melted by 2013, yet this year it grew in extent and thickness. Same with the Greenland ice load.
You obviously don’t realise that today is actually colder than for many years in both Arctic and Antarctic for the same time of year.
You obviously don’t realise that many muti-decadal records for cold and snowfall are being broken in both Northern and Southern hemispheres and yet are being removed from international media circulation by the IPCC – friendly Soros media machine.
You seem to ignore the fact that we are now entering a Grand Solar Minimum and that the growing seasons in higher latitudes are reducing. This affected harvests in 2017 and 2018. Next year we face dire shortages in many places…already Duterte is seizing rice warehouses and Sisi is seizing potato stocks.
You obviously don’t know of the snowfalls in the Sahara, Saudi Arabia, Southern Africa etc earlier this year. You don’t know about the flooding in Namibia or Qatar or Europe.
You obviously don’t know that NASA forecasts a cold future from the thinning and cooling of the outer layer of earth’s atmosphere.
I am glad you consider me a global warming denier, because I doubt any warming or cooling is yet outside of natural variability.
We do know the international socialist alliance that led to the award of a few Nobel Prizes (starting with Barack Obama’s) was orchestrated by the Club of Rome and IPCC. But that has no basis in scientific fact. It is solely due to the globalists’ aspiration to equalise wealth between the countries of the world, for which no government in any OECD country yet has sought or received any mandate from its voters.
I am glad you don’t want to talk to me about climate change, because if the Grand Solar Minimum results in similar cooling to the Maunder Minimum conditions of the 17th century, you will certainly have plenty of human die-back stories to fill your doom-ridden day with.
It is so hard to find someone to have a sensible climate change discussion with because so few people understand what is happening in our world.
You are obviously so ignorant, it would be a waste of time me talking to you.
makati1 on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 6:45 pm
The above comments are bit and pieces of the real problem, Unequal distribution/waste of the remaining resources. Migration will happen when conditions change. Borders are man made artifacts, not barriers. They WILL be breached.
The only way the Us can keep them out will be that big wall both North and South. Isolation. That wall will also keep Americans in. Police State America is solidifying.
The ‘collapse’ will be when the global distribution system goes down or severely contracts. When it is no longer profitable to ship unnecessary shit across oceans. I see that happening in years, not decades.
The so called ‘wealthy’ are living on debt. Paper and digital assets, not real things. The poor are going to hardly notice the change as they only own real things. Necessities. Step down the ladder now and avoid the rush.
makati1 on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 7:05 pm
Mother Nature is changing the world in many ways.
“California Hit By 39 Earthquakes Within 24 Hours As Scientists Warn Of “Movement Along The San Andreas Fault””
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/california-hit-by-39-earthquakes-within-24-hours-as-scientists-warn-of-movement-along-the-san-andreas-fault
“Yellowstone Alert: 200 Earthquakes In 10 Days As Ring Of Fire Awakens”
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-20/yellowstone-alert-200-earthquakes-10-days-ring-fire-awakens
Slip slidin’…
Davy on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 7:21 pm
“Will Future Megacities Be a Marvel or a Mess? Look at New Delhi”
https://tinyurl.com/yc4hmr54
(population graph) https://tinyurl.com/yd25p239
(ground water graph) https://tinyurl.com/y8xef9mn
“The effects of unbridled urbanization are inescapable in India’s capital city. Smog blankets landmarks like India Gate in winter, delaying flights at the airport due to poor visibility. Traffic jams are part of the daily routine and slums abut New Delhi’s luxury hotels and private mansions, testifying to a growing wealth divide and chronic housing shortage. And every day, the problem gets bigger. More than 27 million people live in and around Delhi with about 700,000 more joining them each year, according to research firm Demographia. The United Nations forecasts that by 2028 the population could outstrip Tokyo’s to make Delhi the world’s biggest megacity.”
“It’s totally haphazard, mad growth of population with no regard” for the effects on the environment and health, said Arvind Kumar, a surgeon at New Delhi’s Sir Ganga Ram Hospital, who has seen a surge of lung-cancer cases among non-smokers due to pollution in recent years. “There was just massive growth, growth, growth.”
Sissyfuss on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 7:21 pm
Invester the moron is back with his usual anti-science claptrap. And he’s right, it is a waste of time talking to him so don’t bother.
makati1 on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 7:37 pm
“As Overdose Deaths Soar To Record Highs, FDA Approves New Painkiller That’s 1,000X More Powerful Than Morphine”
“… official data showed 2017 was the deadliest year for overdose deaths in US history, with more than 70,000 recorded drug-related fatalities, many of which were caused by powerful synthetic opioids like the main ingredient in Dsuvia, the brand name under which the new painkiller will be sold…The company anticipates $1.1 billion in annual sales.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-03/fda-approves-new-painkiller-thats-1000x-more-powerful-morphine
Slip slidin’ BIG time! LMAO
makati1 on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 7:40 pm
BTW America, how is that “War on Drugs ” doing? 70,000+ deaths in one year and you complain about the Philippine’s War on Drugs killing less than 5,000 over several years. Hypocrites! LMAO
JuanP on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 8:33 pm
Floods and droughts are very important, particularly droughts. Having multiple water sources and/or storage is a priority.
boney joe on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 8:46 pm
Mak-
Now you be sure and sign a medical directive to decline all palliative care when you are facing death and your body begins to spasm in pain and distress, which can last for weeks. With each passing day you’re one step closer to confronting this scenario so get to work now. Make damn sure you are capable of feeling each and every pain and discomfort and spasm and seizure associated with the end of life. I assume you don;t want to be a hypocrite.
Then, where is the evidence to support your claim that “many drug related fatalities were caused by powerful synthetic opioids.”? Sorry, quoting ZeroHedge as a source does not qualify for the most obvious fo reasons. Consequently, you are asserting that street drugs like heroin play a minor role in drug related fatalities, correct? I just want to get you on the record before going forward.
Regarding the phills, the 5.000 deaths figure you cite refers to the extra-judicial killings carried out by state sanctioned paramilitary death squads. FYI, the number in the US is 0.
In terms of the 70,000 fatalities quoted by ZeroHedge, I always consider the information presented as false until I independently confirm, but assuming its correct, so what? The US population is three times larger and the numbers used by the Phills govt. are notoriously inaccurate due to their messaging for political purposes. Oh, and by the way, alcohol related deaths are quite a bit larger, but I never hear you rail against the evils of the drink- nary a peep. Hysteria-sensationalism is why.
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 9:21 pm
Another White Conservative terrorist shot and killed two woman in Tampa yesterday..
White men are the greatest terrorist threat to America.
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 10:07 pm
members of the swedish nationalist group det fria sverige
https://i.redd.it/6orctffta7w11.png
Pure white trash!
makati1 on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 10:27 pm
And the ones dying in the Ps are pushers, not users. HUGE difference, boney. The US has over 100,000 ‘pushers’.
“U.S. Leads the World in Illegal Drug Use”
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-leads-the-world-in-illegal-drug-use/
“Trump pushes death penalty for drug dealers: ‘It’s not about being nice anymore'”
“Over the past several weeks, Trump has talked approvingly of regimes in China, the Philippines and Singapore that execute drug dealers — in some cases without due process.
“I won’t mention names, but you know the countries l’m taking about,” he said Monday. “Take a look at some of these countries where they don’t play games. They don’t have a drug problem.””
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/03/19/trump-pushes-death-penalty-drug-dealers-new-hampshire-opioid-speech/438975002/
https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/data/statedeaths.html
https://www.drugabuse.gov/related-topics/trends-statistics/overdose-death-rates
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/opioids-drug-overdose-killed-more-americans-last-year-than-the-vietnam-war/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/16/us-drug-overdose-deaths-opioids-fentanyl-cdc
America is a sick, dying country.
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 10:41 pm
Mak
When are you going to get over your hateful obsession with America? You remind me of a guy who was duped by a girl he loved and can’t move on with his life..
deadly on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 11:57 pm
Wooly Mammoths were alive six thousand years ago.
4000 BCE, when the pyramids along the Nile were being built, wooly mammoths walked the earth.
Irvine, wherever is one word.
The Yangtze River in China flooded in 1931, torrential rains did the damage. In the end, 3.7 million Chinese died.
makati1 on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 12:05 am
MOB, the day AFTER it collapses into ruin. It is so well deserved and the world will rejoice when it can not longer plunder and kill anywhere it chooses. The Us has been the cause of most of the world’s problems for the last 100+ years.
When the new world rebuilds, the US will be a 3rd world country on the level of Bangladesh. It is fast approaching that level right now. It is only the ‘frogs in the pot’ that do not feel the heat. Now you know when I will stop prosecuting* America.
*Prosecute. To follow through; to commence and continue an action or judicial proceeding to its ultimate conclusion.
Slip slidin’…
makati1 on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 2:58 am
Intelligent people may find this useful:
“52 Weeks to Preparedness: An Emergency Preparedness Plan For Surviving Virtually Any Disaster”
http://readynutrition.com/resources/52-weeks-to-preparedness-an-introduction_19072011/
Do we have 52 weeks?
makati1 on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 3:01 am
Perhaps this would be useful?
“How to Barter for Survival (not just a list): 100+ Items to Barter in a Post-Collapse World (2018 Edition)”
https://www.backdoorsurvival.com/41-items-to-barter/
Stock up now. Tomorrow may be too late.
Davy on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 3:35 am
“Mak When are you going to get over your hateful obsession with America? You remind me of a guy who was duped by a girl he loved and can’t move on with his life..”
MOB, billy is almost 80. It is downhill now and change is rarely something old people in their last days are capable of. The ones that get to this point and are good people well this is OK and everyone loves their grandparents like this. It is the ones like billy that everyone would just a soon kick the bucket. No love, no caring and nothing but whining, bitching, and narcissism. DEMENTIA
Cloggie on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 3:43 am
Can metal powder like iron replace fossil fuel?
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2018/11/04/iron-powder-as-a-fuel/
Davy on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 3:43 am
“Do we have 52 weeks?”
YES
“Stock up now. Tomorrow may be too late.”
I HAVE
Nice references billy! Billy, if you could only stick to these kinds of comments and avoid the hate and discontent you would help make this board great again. lol
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 5:13 am
Why Brexit is just a sideshow for an EU beset by problems on all sides
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/04/brexit-sideshow-for-eu-beset-by-problems
Cloggie on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 7:06 am
German electricity production last week:
https://www.energy-charts.de/power.htm?source=all-sources&week=43&year=2018
A lot of wind, biomass, pumped hydro, hydro and some solar.
In other news: global steel production is responsible for 6% of CO2 emissions. The Swedish government wants to see that reduced to 0% –> HYBRIT program. Replace CO2 emission from coal-based iron-reduction to hydrogen-based iron-reduction. Output: harmless water. Hydrogen from renewable sources, eventually.
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2018/11/04/hybrit-fossil-free-steel/
Davy on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 7:19 am
cool chart, neder
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 8:44 am
Davy
You have to suck up to Clogg now because everyone is shitting on you lately..Befriending a Nazi? talk about the last refugee of a scoundrel..Literally..
LMFAO
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 8:46 am
Clogg
German’s renewable energy sector has been a total joke..They have some of the highest energy prices in the world..They even scared away one of their BMW plants..
Germany’s Expensive Gamble on Renewable Energy
https://www.wsj.com/articles/germanys-expensive-gamble-on-renewable-energy-1409106602
Germany Runs Up Against the Limits of Renewables
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/601514/germany-runs-up-against-the-limits-of-renewables/
Davy on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 9:05 am
“You have to suck up to Clogg now because everyone is shitting on you lately”
Who is everybody? Lol. If you mean dumbasses you included then great. Neder makes some good posts. Anyone who makes a good post enemy or not gets my
Acknowledgment.
Cloggie on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 9:21 am
“German’s renewable energy sector has been a total joke..They have some of the highest energy prices in the world.”
A total joke, really? Europe and Germany in particular are far more energy efficient than slow lane dwellers like the US, Russia, China and the rest of the turtles:
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2014/10/04/energy-efficiency-country-ranking/
Europeans simply need far less energy to make a million buck.
In the mean time we begin to control renewable energy markets, just like geopolitical has-been US controlled fossil energy markets over the past century. Oil-based energy may still be a little cheaper than renewable, but that is because the planet-destroying fossil fuel has not been made to pay for its destruction. When our renewable energy industry is strong enough, we can simply forbid the import of oil and gas, or products that were manufactured with them.
We’re in this game to win. But the mobster can make himself a useful idiot, serving European interests, by continue to falsely claim that “renewables are a joke”, putting the US renewable industry (if any) at insurmountable distance.
Cloggie on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 9:29 am
Dominance of Europe in offshore wind, controlling the energy markets of the future:
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2017/04/04/top-10-onshore-wind-turbine-manufacturers-2016-gw/
Duncan Idaho on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 9:32 am
Well, it is raining in Italy:
https://a.disquscdn.com/get?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FShgKryD.gif&key=s-dRK_F-qt4K3WdyXI3S6Q&w=800&h=400
Cloggie on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 9:36 am
“You have to suck up to Clogg now because everyone is shitting on you lately..Befriending a Nazi?”
You are beginning to lose control of your flock, millikike. You know as no other that mortal danger for your tribe comes from Europe, not America. Easy meat. But I am here to take your flock away from you and until now you have been losing every battle and worse is to come, that much I can promise you. You are in the crosshairs until you are “horizontalized”, politically.
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 10:28 am
Clogg
You can have the renewable market..Well take lower energy prices and your factories..And you can have a tiny bit of energy at sky high prices and rolling blackouts..
LMFAO!
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 10:30 am
Clog
Energy efficiency increases energy consumption..ie Jevons paradox..
The Curse of Energy Efficiency (Jevon’s Paradox)
https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2018/02/26/Energy-Efficiency-Curse/
You are energy illiterate and peak oil ignorant..
Davy on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 10:40 am
“Europeans simply need far less energy to make a million buck.”
Geeze, you back to saying that again neder??? It is funny how you resurrect junk from your wordpress
Cloggie on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 10:40 am
You can have the renewable market..Well take lower energy prices and your factories..And you can have a tiny bit of energy at sky high prices and rolling blackouts..
LMFAO!
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/plugged-in/data-show-that-germany-s-grid-is-one-of-the-world-s-most-reliable/
“Data show that Germany’s grid is one of the world’s most reliable”
https://www.renewableenergyworld.com/news/2015/04/us-power-grids-2-trillion-upgrade-needs-european-efficiency.html
“US Power Grid’s $2 Trillion Upgrade Needs European Efficiency”
https://www.ey.com/en_gl/news/2018/01/europe-to-reach-off-grid-energy-parity-up-to-20-years-ahead-of-the-us
“Europe to reach off-grid energy parity up to 20 years ahead of the US”
https://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/renewables/lessons-learned-along-europes-road-to-renewables
“As a result, even though renewables now provide 60 percent of Denmark’s electrical generation, its grid is markedly more reliable than that of the United States”
LMFAO!
Check-mate, you bolshi third-world level low-IQ suicidal moron.
Cloggie on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 10:43 am
https://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/renewables/lessons-learned-along-europes-road-to-renewables
“On average, the United States has three times as many outages as Denmark, with each outage lasting 14 times as long.”
(Note that Denmark is far ahead to the US in matters of so-called “unreliable” renewable energy)
Cloggie on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 10:45 am
“It is funny how you resurrect junk from your wordpress”
Try to refute it without resorting to impotent smear words like “racist” or “natzi”.
You can’t. You are simply outclassed by Europe in matters of energy. That’s no reason for shame. Shameful is denying it.
Davy on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 11:00 am
“On average, the United States has three times as many outages as Denmark, with each outage lasting 14 times as long.”
you can’t compare Denmark to the US??? Denmark has the population of a city
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 11:05 am
Clogg
Why don’t you open up the comments on your blog?
You won’t..For the same reason you wont get your WW2 theories verified..
Renewable energy mix played role in SA blackout, third AEMO report confirms
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-12/renewable-energy-mix-played-role-in-sa-blackout/8111184
Solar and Wind produced less than one percent of total world energy in 2016 – IEA WEO 2017
https://www.iea.org/publications/freepublications/publication/KeyWorld2017.pdf
UC Davis Peer Reviewed Study: It Will Take 131 Years to Replace Oil with Alternatives
(Malyshkina, 2010)
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es100730q
University of Chicago Peer Reviewed Study: predicts world economy unlikely to stop relying on fossil fuels (Covert, 2016)
https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/jep.30.1.117
Davy on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 11:05 am
“You can’t. You are simply outclassed by Europe in matters of energy. That’s no reason for shame. Shameful is denying it.”
Neder there is more to making money than energy. You have to compare economies properly and you don’t. You are so friggin sloppy to prove your stupid chauvinistic agenda.
This statement reminds me of your kindergarten map of the world post PBM:
“Europeans simply need far less energy to make a million buck”
A statement like that shows how agenda centric you are and how scientifically illiterate you are because of it.
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 11:07 am
Clogg
Too much air pollution for solar to work effectively..I bet the big tech industry didn’t tell you that one..China thanks you for purchasing their panels though..
LMFAO!
Air Pollution Casts Shadow over Solar Energy Production
http://pratt.duke.edu/about/news/solar-pollution
Davy on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 11:15 am
“Too much air pollution for solar to work effectively.”
I clean my panels monthly. My problem is with dust and pollen buildup. Blue birds like to perch on my panels also and they shit a lot.
Cloggie on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 11:37 am
Too much air pollution for solar to work effectively..I bet the big tech industry didn’t tell you that one
That’s dirty India, not Europe. We have cleaner air and far less dust.
This year my panels gave me more electricity than I need, so good was the Summer.
I have my panels now exactly 3 years. No need to clean them, they are cleaned by the rain, which we have here sufficiently.