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Our Cataclysmic Planet
How mass extinctions inform our understanding of human-caused climate change
But let’s say, somehow, you could have watched this madness unfold—without succumbing to the monstrous cloud of carbon dioxide belched up from the volcanoes of the Siberian Traps, without being incinerated by an ocean of lava, without starving in the ruins of the global acid rain that destroyed the ecosystems on land, and without being burned alive in the wildfires that scorched the earth.
If you could have lived through all of this, which, by the way, you wouldn’t have, you would have been among the few creatures to survive what paleontologists now refer to as the Great Dying. It’s a good name for what happened.
There have only been five mass extinction events, that we know of, on Earth. The mass extinction that killed the dinosaurs was the most recent—but it wasn’t the most devastating. The Great Dying, which preceded the demise of the dinosaurs by about 180 million years, was by far the worst: The planet warmed rapidly— roughly 50 degrees Fahrenheit over a 60,000-year period. Some 90 percent of all living creatures went kaput. It then took 10 million years for life on Earth to bounce back, which was a curiously long recovery period, even for an extinction of that magnitude.
“What interested us was how long it took life to recover afterward,” said William Foster, a professor of geosciences at the University of Texas at Austin and the lead author of a new study about the Great Dying, published in the journal PLOS ONE on Wednesday. “Because not only was this the worst mass-extinction event, but recovery took millions of years.”
Foster wanted to know: Did the recovery of life on Earth take so long after the Great Dying because the extinction event itself was so cataclysmic? Or was something else going on?
To find out, he and his colleagues traveled to the Dolomites, a mountain range in northeastern Italy that’s known for its long geologic record of the Triassic, the period that came just after the Permian, which was capped by the Great Dying. The team examined marine invertebrate fossils, and from that work produced the most continuous dataset ever collected from the region.
The volcanic eruptions that marked the start of the Great Dying were absolutely monstrous. The entire area of what is now China was covered in some 40 feet of lava. Those same volcanoes released a huge amount of gas, which set off the atmospheric deoxygenation that led to dramatic climate change. For context, it’s borderline ridiculous to compare the magnitude of this event to the 1883 eruption of Krakatoa, one of the deadliest and most violent volcanic eruptions in recorded history. “Krakatoa is very, very, very small compared to what happened at the Siberian Traps,” Foster said. Krakatoa killed some 36,000 people.
The magnitude of the volcanic eruptions 252 million years ago may be difficult to comprehend today, but what’s happening to the atmosphere is familiar.
“This is what makes it so interesting,” Foster told me, “Because you have this huge volcanic eruption that releases all these gases, and then you look at what’s happening today [with climate change] and they’re all the same gases. They’re causing the same effects. So we can say, ‘This is what it did in the past and this is what we might be looking at for the future.’”
The natural next question is: Where’s the threshold, in terms of planetary warming, for setting off a mass extinction like the Great Dying? “For most animals we don’t know the threshold,” Foster said. “It’s really, really hard to reconstruct values that far back in the past, but it’s what we’re trying to develop: What are our thresholds? What sorts of temperatures are we talking about?”
Looking at the human activity that is spiking global temperatures today, we’re still nowhere near the deoxygenation that took place 252 million years ago. “We don’t think we will reach the threshold we reached in the Great Dying,” Foster told me. “Or, we hope we won’t, anyway.”
According to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, average global temperatures are likely to increase by at least 3 degrees within the next 80 years. In some places, they might increase by nearly 9 degrees—still substantially below the 50-degree increase that began after the eruptions of the Siberian Traps. (Even a difference of one or two degrees, however, can yield extraordinarily different outcomes for the planet.) There’s clear scientific consensus that human activity is driving climate change today. What happens to our species as a result is less certain.
The Earth has reinvented itself at least five times before. In each mass extinction, planetary life was very nearly wiped clean. Microscopic organisms, insects, furry beasts, and reptilian land monsters have all been destroyed at one point or another.
There are survivors, of course. Even the Great Dying spared some clams, sea snails, urchins, brittle stars, and seed shrimp. These creatures didn’t just survive, they also became the most abundant animals in our oceans, a reminder that the story of life on our planet isn’t the story of a single species at the top of the food chain, but ultimately a tale of relentless adaptability.
“Big cool things like dinosaurs are pretty rare to find compared with clams,” says Peter Brannen, the author of The Ends of the World. And from one mass extinction to the next, there’s remarkably constancy on one hand—same magmatic systems on the same planet orbiting the same ole star. Yet there’s staggering newness, too.
“The world looks totally different before and after a mass extinction,” Brannen told me. “Sixty-seven million years ago, you had mosasaurs and big non-bird dinosaurs, and 15 million years later you have whales and giant land-mammals.”
“In one way it’s scary that we’re even in the same conversation as major mass extinction events,” Brannen added, referring to climate change. “But the Earth has seen way worse than we could ever dish out and it still recovers. The Earth, in the long run? The Earth will be fine.”
Humans, maybe not so much.
79 Comments on "Our Cataclysmic Planet"
DerHundistlos on Wed, 5th Apr 2017 2:32 pm
What distinguishes the present anthropomorphic generated mass extinction emergency is for the first time in the history of the planet, a single species is responsible for extinguishing life. There is no precedent.
What does this say about the fundamental nature of mankind? We are a failed species. Unless the destroyer of worlds is eliminated and soon, all life on Earth will suffer extinction. For this reason, we are in the process of being replaced by a new human- a hybrid form.
Davy on Wed, 5th Apr 2017 3:20 pm
Der hund, it is thought per the snowball Earth theory Cyanobacteria may have been responsible for another of the mass extinctions. So we are not as exceptional as we think which does not distract from you profound point.
makati1 on Wed, 5th Apr 2017 6:29 pm
Humans are the ONLY species to bring about life extinction in a matter of centuries, not millions of years. We are Number One! Problem is, anyone born or alive today may get to watch the end in their lifetime. We seem to have hit the hockey stick point on the climate change graph. If it continues at the current pace, I might even live long enough to hear the fat lady sing.
Of course the nuke rattling in the insanity center of the world, Washington DC, could guarantee the end comes soon. Nuclear winter anyone?
Apneaman on Wed, 5th Apr 2017 7:58 pm
Most, including Peter science reporter, still don’t seem to get that what the humans are “dishing out” triggers more than we ever could actually dish out. Positive self reinforcing feedbacks. This has been what the warnings have always been about – slow down or you will trigger them. And now the humans have pulled the trigger.
New Study: What’s Scarier than the Permian Extinction? Burn All the Fossil Fuels to Find Out.
“If we burn all the fossil fuels “not only will the resultant climate change be faster than anything Earth has seen for millions of years, the climate that will exist is likely to have no natural counterpart, as far as we can tell, in at least the last 420 million years.” — Gavin Foster, Professor of Isotope Geochemistry at the University of Southampton”
https://robertscribbler.com/2017/04/05/new-study-whats-scarier-than-the-permian-extinction-burn-all-the-fossil-fuels-to-find-out/
________________________________________ on Wed, 5th Apr 2017 8:13 pm
Your neurons are extinct. An asteroid will cause a mass-extinction in a few hours. Most species die out even if everything is peachy.
cottager on Thu, 6th Apr 2017 7:40 am
mak, good idea, at least we have good weapon against global warming – nuclear winter. Let’s see who’s the winner.
makati1 on Thu, 6th Apr 2017 7:46 am
2018 Economic Outlook by country… How does YOUR country fare?
http://world-economic-outlook.findthedata.com/
U$:
GDP – $21,100,000,00,000.
Government debt – 107%
Ps:
GDP – $451,000,000,000.
Government debt – 32%
China;
GDP – $14,900,000,000,000.
Government debt – 12%
Russia:
GDP – $3,200,000,000,000.
Government debt – 13%
Hmmm. Now how will the rest of the world suffer when the U$ goes down? Seems that only the Western world and it’s wannabees are in line for the big hurt.
Cloggie on Thu, 6th Apr 2017 8:12 am
@Makati – 100% debt GDP is not that bad. In general only entities with a productive economy can acquire that amount of debt in the first place.
To compare, when I started my career I got a mortgage three times (300%) the amount of gross salary of my first job, which was standard at the time. 15 years later the mortgage was paid off and I had a reasonable life in between.
100% debt is no reason to anticipate immanent collapse.
P.S. the internet is full of Cassandra’s telling you that the end is near. Not all of them should be taken seriously. 😉
Davy on Thu, 6th Apr 2017 8:29 am
Financial illiterate cherry picking economic data for a failed agenda is so amusing. They guy did not even finish college. BTW, we can give a shit about the P’s Makati. Makati, do you realize China’s debt is closing in on on a systematic failure zone of 300%? Nope, because that kind of news does not fit your fantasy world. Lol
Sissyfuss on Thu, 6th Apr 2017 10:53 am
With our ever increasing knowledge of how the Earth achieves balance to sustain life it is stultifying to realize how in opposition we, the apex predator are to its needs and teachings. If we continue on as children playing in the sandbox with our growing amount of destructive toys, Gaia will shut down the school permanently.
Apneaman on Thu, 6th Apr 2017 12:23 pm
Rain Bombs Away
New Zealand towns hit by ‘once in 500-year flood’ as storm system sweeps in
State of emergency declared in parts of North Island after rivers burst banks amid extreme winds brought by tail-end of ex-cyclone Debbie
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/06/new-zealand-storm-ex-cyclone-debbie-towns-hit-once-in-500-year-flood
Half a year’s worth of rain in a single month
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/91248636/half-a-years-worth-of-rain-in-a-single-month
Ex Tropical Cyclone Debbie hits Auckland with month of rain in 24 hours
“Whangaparaoa has recorded 167.8mm over the last 24 hours, while Auckland Airport has recorded 82.4mm.
Auckland usually gets 91mm of rain for all of April.”
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11832467
Apneaman on Thu, 6th Apr 2017 1:05 pm
I doubt a pandemic could wipe out the entire human species, but it sure can (and probably will) get a lot of them.
Flu pandemic likelihood increasing as new strains emerge, UNSW researchers warn
“”Some of the reasons involve things like climate change and its impact on pathogens, changes like urbanisation, but none of these things have increased at the rate the virus is increasing so there’s something else going on.”
The Spanish flu, which killed 50 million people in 1918-19, was followed by a 40-year hiatus during which no new flu strains emerged, and then a 10-year gap from the one after that to the next.
But the emergence of strains has gathered pace in the past 15 years.”
http://www.smh.com.au/national/health/flu-pandemic-likelihood-increasing-as-new-strains-emerge-unsw-researchers-warn-20170404-gvdk72.html
The next flu pandemic – not if, but when
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/scienceshow/the-next-flu-pandemic—not-if,-but-when/7673206
makati1 on Thu, 6th Apr 2017 6:02 pm
Ap, with millions flying around the world everyday at 500+ mph, 24 hours can see a flu virus spread to hundreds of cities across the world. I can see billions dying in the first month. True, some would be immune, but most would not. There is no way to avoid exposure in the 1st world where everyone is chained to a job and/or school. As I have been saying, Mother Nature has yet to unleash her most deadly weapons. The ones you cannot see.
onlooker on Thu, 6th Apr 2017 7:03 pm
Scientists have said not a question of if but when the next world wide Pandemic will hit. We are the prey or incubators of these microscopic critters after all. Remember its not only Mother Nature but some deadly viruses being store which may be intentionally or unintentionally let out
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/13/health/are-we-ready-for-global-outbreak/
Apneaman on Thu, 6th Apr 2017 9:08 pm
So much for all the retarded explanation about how much of a warmonger Hillary was and Cheeto wasn’t.
“Yep I dun voted fer Trump cause I knew 100% neocon Hillary would start WW3 and Trump would keep us out of unnecessary MIC racketeering conflicts”
Not even 3 months in and every “reason” the Trump voters gave for voting for it have been blown out of the water and made y’all look real fucking stupid.
U.S. attacks Syrian air base with dozens of missiles in response to chemical attack
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-us-syria-airstrikes-20170406-story.html
US airstrike proposal in Syria could result in Russian deaths: report
http://thehill.com/policy/defense/327714-us-airstrike-proposal-in-syria-could-result-in-russian-deaths-report
It’s Time To Pay Attention — In The Last 24 Hours, Trump Admin. Has Pushed US To The Brink of WW3
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/war-trump-syria-24-hours/
Y’all would have been better off being honest (like me) by just saying there is no way I want a woman, any woman, for POTUS and least of all not Hillary, instead of all the lame assed rationalisations for Trump. As far as I’m concerned anyone who voted must still hold some hope, which means they don’t get it.
Hillary is as corrupt as they come and undoubtedly things would only get worse with her, but it almost looks like Cheeto is trying his hardest to make a already bad situation for America and Americans even worse as fast as he possibly can. Many have predicted that more military misadventures would be the final straw for the US. I guess we will see.
GregT on Thu, 6th Apr 2017 11:12 pm
US envoy to the UN, Nikki Haley speaks at UN Security Council 7015th meeting April 5 2017. Pay attention to her carefully scripted words beginning around the 1 hour and 45 minute mark:
“The truth is, that Assad, Russia, and Iran, have no interest in peace.”
http://webtv.un.org/meetings-events/security-council/watch/the-situation-in-the-middle-east-syria-security-council-7915th-meeting/5386184129001
Nikki Haley gets booed, heckled at summit hours after taking on Russia at the United Nations
“Hours after she slammed Russia for its response to a suspected chemical attack in Syria, U.S. Ambassador Nikki Haley faced a hostile crowd Wednesday night that booed and shouted for her to leave the Women in the World Summit.”
http://www.postandcourier.com/politics/nikki-haley-gets-booed-heckled-at-summit-hours-after-taking/article_f0c89160-1ad8-11e7-9639-dfb3d7b5aa93.html
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss, on steroids. The Donald™.
GregT on Thu, 6th Apr 2017 11:26 pm
Sorry, 7915th meeting.
makati1 on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 12:12 am
I now move my odds of WW3 up to 20:1.
Where will it begin? Syria? North Korea? An accident involving American and Chinese or Russian military jets? All of those at one time? And how long until the nukes come out? We shall see.
Interesting times, and a hot summer not caused by global warming.
joe on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 1:13 am
Authorising a strike like this will excite and embolden ISIS, Zionists, and Saudi Arabia, Turkey will be regretting it ever hosted extremism now as Syria (the only part of this sorry tale NOT murdering Christians) is forced into partition.
Trumps entire election platform stands in ruin and Trump has abandoned those who voted against EXACTLY this reaction. China must be so happy its BAU.
joe on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 1:17 am
Toppling Assad will destroy Israel with 100% certainty, because if I was Assad, I would send my people to Israel, not Europe. Everything changed now. Sending a couple of missiles is easy, fighting and winning wars is another concept, so far Americas record is bad, go ask the Taliban.
GregT on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 1:21 am
Everyone knows the story about the bully in the playground. He always gets his ass kicked in the end.
The bigger the attitude, the more poetic the ass-kicking.
GregT on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 1:44 am
“Toppling Assad will destroy Israel with 100% certainty, because if I was Assad, I would send my people to Israel, not Europe.”
When both Assad and Syria have been “toppled”, they won’t be sending people anywhere. They’ll be far too busy fighting and dying amongst themselves. Exactly what ‘Israel’ wants.
Next stop Iran. All still going in accordance to the plans.
Cloggie on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 3:16 am
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss, on steroids. The Donald™.
That’s not true Greg. The vitriol spewed against Trump over the last three months prove that Trump was not political BAU. It looks like the Swamp has drained Trump instead of the other way around.
My American political right-wing buddies judge likewise:
Richard Spencer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAbWhErsY_A
Alex Jones:
https://www.infowars.com/trump-to-attack-syria-within-hours-will-russia-respond/
Assad is the only guarantor for relative stability in Syria. What will come after Assad will be worse, even for the US. But the criminals from the swamp have determined that Assad needs to go and that en passant this is the perfect way to get a major conflict with Russia as a bonus. The removal of Assad would mean handing over Syria to the Jihadists. ISIS can’t believe their luck.
If was what the great French writer Voltaire once said about the… um… “neocons”:
”They are, all of them, born with raging fanaticism in their hearts, just as the Bretons and the Germans are born with blond hair. I would not be in the least bit surprised if these people would not some day become deadly to the human race..
That moment is now.
Russia says that US-Russians relations have been significantly damaged after the US strike yesterday:
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/us-angriff-in-syrien-russland-sieht-schaden-fuer-us-beziehungen-a-1142267.html
There were 400,000 people killed already in Syria in a war instigated by the West. Now they are going to use an incident concerning a few dozens (almost certainly a false flag) as a pretext to really finish Syria off… on “humanitarian grounds”.
The real motive is starting WW3 in an attempt to prove that a nuclear armed world needs a global government.
I wonder how the consultations with Xi will proceed.
makati1 on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 3:21 am
GregT, I think the next stop may be North Korea. I hope the wars stay in the ME. The U$ cannot win either place but the fireworks are better kept at a long distance. 4,000 miles VS 2,000.
Cloggie on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 4:25 am
The US media all of a sudden are full of praise for Trump. All he had to do is start a war. Wasn’t too difficult, now was it Donald.
In the second video the MSNBC criminal is gushing about “the beauty of our weapons”:
http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/2017/04/goedemorgen_en_welkom_in_wereldoorlog_drie.html#comments
Being killed by gas is a no-no.
Being killed by US weapons is “beautiful”.
All they needed was a pretext, they probably engineered themselves and their Jihadist useful idiot buddies.
And it is of course a diplomatic affront of the first order to carry out this strike while the Chinese president is visiting the US. I’m surprised Xi hasn’t walked out yet.
Cloggie on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 4:39 am
The new pecking order in the hierarchy:
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/850168864805724160
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/roger-stone-claims-kushner-is-leaking-info-about-bannon-to-msnbc/article/2619325
One is reminded of the conversation between Richard Nixon and Billy Graham, that was published decades later.
Trump has been neutered or so it seems. Neocon-right replaces (closet) alt-right.
Cloggie on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 4:48 am
Four year old “Stay out of Syria” tweets, hurled at Obama by Donald the real estate “isolationist”:
https://www.rt.com/usa/383834-trump-syria-strike-old-tweets/
Russia has cancelled cooperation with ISIS Airforce, formerly known as USAF, about coordinating moves in Syrian airspace, to avoid confrontation/accidents:
https://www.rt.com/news/383837-russia-syria-flight-safety/
This lowers the threshold of an “accident”. Hillary Trump, what have you done.
Davy on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 7:22 am
Pretty obvious Trump has been likely coopted by the deep state swamp. Although I would not put it past a gamer like Trump to be coopting the swamp. Yet, Trump was likely given a choice by the swamp to join the club or eventually be ruined. I imagine those who make the decision in the swamp decided Trump was not going to be rid of easily. He beat them only to be absorbed by them. It is for now a stalemate.
It appears on the intellectual side with Bannon being moved aside and the liberal and democratic leaning Kushner and his globalist ways are now swaying Trump. The neo-liberals and neocons have won the day but not without also showing their weakness. The status quo is alive and well as it races to an end. I am not sure what is in the future for Trump. I imagine this will strengthen some of his positions because this appears to have been a compromise. The US government is about compromise and more recently paralysis. It has no future in a collapsing world. Dictatorships are more effective in our new world. This is why a Mafia Don like Putin will never be beaten until natural mortality takes him.
Geopolitically it is about the status quo of a dying empire maintaining its declining power. The cruise missile strike was a joke. It was little more than a show with very little real military signficance. The damage was to a budding Putin and Trump détente. That is the real message. Assad is nothing anymore. He has a balkanized country that has been destroyed by years of civil war. This was a strike against Iran and Putin. It is a warning to North Korea. Militarily it was insignificant. Politically it is dramatic.
joe on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 8:06 am
GregT are you really that stupid? After Iraq, no wmd lies, Obama promised to close gitmo but somehow dosent quite manage to do it, bombing syrian soldiers on the eve of a historic deal to cooperate with Russia, gulf of Tonkin, bay of Pigs…..
Plan is simple, but not what you think. People with attitudes like yours proves why humanity is doomed. Do you think America has a right to act on its own? Do you think anyone has rights to act as they have done? Have YOU seen PROOF Assad ordered this chemical attack? Trump has crossed allot of lines today, I hope there are no consequences for Americans after this. Next stop Iran? You havent even completed Iraq yet, and the Taliban still remains unbeaten 16 years after Bush 2 declared his war on them! America is being goaded into unwinnable wars, exactly as UBl wanted by the Saudis and Islamists. Oil will topple the US sooner than you might think. The quest for oil region domination is a quest for money, driven by greed, the Saudis will be happy to let you have it all in exchange for an Islamic future where Europe is flooded by war refugees. Americas current goals are wasteful, do you really believe there wont be an Iran or Persia or Russia long after American power vanishes? Syria will still be Syria long after the walls being built today have crumbled, there might not be a United States though. Trump promised jobs, jobs, jobs. So far can only be judged a total failure in all areas, except now the media has gotten what it wanted, a satanic blood orgy in the desert.
onlooker on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 8:44 am
Joe, cannot speak for Greg but I think you’re misinterpreting what he is saying. Greg has not said America has the right to act as it pleases and that Assad ordered chemical attack. In fact he is alluding to the fact that the US is hell bent on toppling Assad even if that means assigning blame to him for chemical attacks. That is a way to get the world community on the side of the US to oust this “horrible” man. And yes, US has been and continues to be focused on Iran, just see the the axis of Evil purported by Mrs. Haley ““The truth is, that Assad, Russia, and Iran, have no interest in peace.”. Get the picture. Also, nobody is going to Israel unless everyone wants to see a large mushroom cloud. You obviously did not see what happened in Iraq and the sectarian violence and the wholesale chaos. Dying and internal displacement and if lucky some Syrians will be taken in by generous countries. Taliban and Isis are puppets of the US and anyway not really a factor without funding. KSA and US funding. Goaded in war US? Really. haha. US has been planning this for years and commenced execution with the 811 attacks. You really think we would just let all that oil fall into the hands of others. That is seen as OUR oil by the US. As for who will own the future, nobody. Saudi Arabia will long ceased to function stably before all the Muslims evacuate the Middle East. Nobody is going to win in the long run, but in the short the US needs that oil Oil will not topple US but lack of it.
onlooker on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 8:46 am
oops 911 attacks.
Ghung on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 8:55 am
Afghanistan => 16+ years =>>>>>
Iraq => 15+ years =>>>>>>>>>>>
Syria => ? =>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hello on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 9:05 am
Is it true, what I hear?
Trump is now officially a fuck on par with all other fucks? Too bad. I was hoping the wind of change would pick up speed.
Cloggie on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 9:19 am
Syria is just the pretext. The real aim of the US Zionist-run deep state is to push the West in a conflict with Russia and topple strong man Putin and drag Russia into the Western alliance on terms dictated by Washington. Once they have Russia, they have the world. The ultimate aim is to create a single global power structure, run by the Soros types and ideologically based on “anti-racism”, holocaust-religion and the Jews as the natural leaders of the world. In that world, national borders will no longer exist and it means the end of European/white civilization. That government body could very well be the UN. The way to get there is a limited nuclear war, with several cities destroyed, to drive home the point that to avoid that the “human race” wipes itself out, global government is unavoidable.
That’s the game plan. For that purpose they need a war/conflict/brinkmanship with Russia.
Counter strategy: large European countries (France and/or Germany) defecting from the West towards Russia-China and accept the US-challenge and prepare for the end game on North-American soil and deal with the problem once and for all. And tell the US right-wingers that they can have their old America back (albeit in reduced size) if they cooperate with Eurasia, just like the American insurgents did in 1776.
Davy is correct that not everything is lost and that we more likely have a stalemate situation. These missiles against Syria are militarily insignificant. I don’t see Trump ordering a war against Russia.
Cloggie on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 9:23 am
Hoppa, yet another truck driving into the crowd:
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/stockholm-lkw-faehrt-in-kaufhaus-mehrere-verletzte-a-1142396.html
This time Stockholm. People got killed. Developing.
Islam needs to be removed from European soil 1942-style. We in Europe didn’t want communism then, we don’t want the Sharia now either. Multi-ethnic societies don’t work. Period.
onlooker on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 9:31 am
That is not going to happen Clog. Mushroom clouds all over the place
Cloggie on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 10:09 am
The perp:
https://twitter.com/Fashy_Swede/status/850356186167877632/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.geenstijl.nl%2F
Unlikely his name is Knut.
GregT on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 10:15 am
“The real aim of the US Zionist-run deep state is to push the West in a conflict with Russia ”
The end game for sure, but the primary goal is for the survival and expansion of Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates. The “promised land”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebvOYOzTkU
The Zionists also believe that they are God’s chosen people, and that after the coming final world conflict, it will be the Jews who along side of the Messiah, will rule all of humanity for a thousand years. It is not only the Jews who believe this, but many Christians as well. Trump included.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/21/politics/trump-religion-gospel/
Cloggie on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 10:17 am
Europe not (really) following US deep state:
http://presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/07/517103/EU-Mogherini-Syria-strike
Mogherini said the US “launched a strike on Shayrat Airfield in Syria with the understandable intention to prevent and deter the spread and use of deadly chemical weapons.”
Mogherini said Washington informed Brussels that the strike was “limited and focused on preventing and deterring further use of chemical weapons.”
Perhaps the political damage can be limited.
Cloggie on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 10:24 am
The end game for sure, but the primary goal is for the survival and expansion of Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates. The “promised land”.
Why would the “primary goal” be a worthless piece of desert if you (think you) can have the entire world?
But perhaps our local climate Messiah Apneaman can inform us first hand about what exactly the plan is, he should know. And perhaps inform us how we mere goy should behave vis-a-vis our “Godly Betters”… perhaps bow and walk backward three passes before turning and walking away? Pray tell.
GregT on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 10:36 am
“Why would the “primary goal” be a worthless piece of desert if you (think you) can have the entire world?”
To fulfill biblical prophecy. The dome on the rock must be destroyed, and King Solomon’s temple rebuilt for the third time in order to usher in God’s kingdom on Earth, and the chosen people’s rule.
“God’s world is great and holy. The holiest land in the world is the land of Israel. In the land of Israel the holiest city is Jerusalem. In Jerusalem the holiest place was the Temple, and in the Temple the holiest spot was the Holy of Holies…. There are seventy peoples in the world. The holiest among these is the people of Israel.”
“To this day, traditional Jews pray three times a day for the Temple’s restoration.”
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-first-temple-solomon-s-temple
DerHundistlos on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 11:22 am
Davy
At what point do the Dear Leader’s incessant broken campaign promises begin to become relevant for you? Your justification for Trump’s latest military adventurism is he had no choice but to accept “the swamp’s” directive to bomb Syria or else???? What has happened to the proclamations that Trump would keep the US out of messy foreign military entanglements? Or is this the beginning of a policy of diversion and subterfuge to get his toilet level ratings up?
Apneaman on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 11:55 am
Hair clog says – “Islam needs to be removed from European soil 1942-style.”
Why are constantly telling US N American white boys your troubles? Do you think any of us give two fucks about Europe and Euro tards? Do you have any idea how fucking selfish we are? Apparently not. More importantly, what have you done about it? Nothing but keyboard. What are you going to do about it? More typing. Maybe you are hoping for the N American old fuck overlords to trick the youth to once again gird up their loins for battle and come over there and die for y’all? You’re in your 70’s and have had a very soft and prosperous life, so why not pay it back to your beloved euro-land and do something? You could die any minute, so why don’t you cut to the chase and go out in style? Put your money where your mouth is and get that race war you so desired started by sacrificing yourself by blowing up some rag heads or sumthin? Do you not have the courage of your convictions hair clog? You keep going on about all this change you want and believe is possible, so why not do something other than bitch to us and help usher the new golden age in? Oh right, you want what you want, but you want somebody else to do all the heavy lifting. Why is that? Because you are a coward and terrified of even the slightest bit of physical pain or discomfort. You effeminate and a coward and internet moaning and bitching is all you will ever do. If you really believe all this change is really possible then you must hate yourself too, knowing how helpless, useless and scared you are – powerless and know it. A disgruntled spectator of the past, present and whatever is left of your future. Do y’all have those irritating Jehovah Witnesses over there? Knocking on my door 4-5 times a year and waving their stupid Watch Tower magazine in my face on the street. I hate em. Like you they are delusional and irritating, but at least they have the balls to get out there and demonstrate the courage of their convictions even if their convictions are fucking retarded. I grudgingly have to give them a little respect. You on the other hand are all talk and always will be and thus get none. Fine, but why don’t your bitching, moaning and war mongering in the Dutch language on a Dutch web site?
Apneaman on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 11:59 am
Arctic Sea Ice Volume Continues to Crater
“This week, measurements from PIOMAS indicate that Arctic sea ice volume for the month of March hit new, all-time record lows during 2017. March 2017 volume, according to the Polar Science Center, dropped about 1,800 cubic kilometers from the previous record low set during the same month in 2011. In total, more than a third of March sea ice volume has been lost since 1979.”
https://robertscribbler.com/2017/04/06/arctic-sea-ice-volume-continues-to-crater/
Apneaman on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 12:02 pm
The Shock of the Anthropocene review – a crisis centuries in the making
Scientific historians Christophe Bonneuil and Jean-Baptiste Fressoz show how our society has been ecologically dangerous for far longer than you might think
“Energy history must free itself first of all from the concept of transition,” they write. We are not now living in a post-coal age, or a post-wood age, even: these fuels are still being used, and everything non-renewable or carbon-based is choking the planet in its own way.”
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/apr/05/the-shock-of-the-anthropocene-review
Apneaman on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 12:10 pm
January-March 2017 Produces the Most Billion-Dollar Weather Disasters On Record for a First Quarter
https://weather.com/news/weather/news/most-billion-dollar-events-record-2017
Davy on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 12:59 pm
“Davy, At what point do the Dear Leader’s incessant broken campaign promises begin to become relevant for you?”
Der Hund, what is so beautiful to me about Trump is exposing the lying liberal fake news left. You should be happy he is tangling with Russia that is what your party wants isn’t it? There you go you and your cousins the neocons got what you wanted and that is bad relations with Putin. Der Hund, unlike you I do not prescribe to a party. I am a doomer and I like anybody that exposes lies and runs through the fake world of ideology and politics like a bull in a china store. Anything to disrupt the corruption. You on the other hand have allegiances with the status quo. You actually believe the fake news and the liberal corruption. Good luck with your fake green ways and your politically incorrect political correct. The fake social justice of privilege and affluence is biting you in the ass and I love it! Me, I am stocking up and getting ready for hard times.
GregT on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 1:02 pm
“Islam needs to be removed from European soil 1942-style. Multi-ethnic societies don’t work. Period.”
Also part of the plan. To create hatred and division. They’re counting on people like you Cloggie.
GregT on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 1:08 pm
Division is also working out quite well in the US, apparently.
Divide and conquer, the oldest strategy in the book.
Cloggie on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 2:33 pm
Also part of the plan. To create hatred and division. They’re counting on people like you Cloggie.
Huh? In the system of the globalists I’m the “Natzi”. They don’t like folks with an identity and willing to defend it. In reality they are counting on folks like you, who will never defend their country against intruders. They love folks who don’t have a country. They want One World (owned by them) and not a compartmentalized world. These invading Muslims have one motivation only and that is conquer the lands they invade for Allah. So they need to be stopped and reversed, like happened on a gigantic scale three times before in European history.
But for you there will be never a reason to pick up arms against your “fellow man”, even if he wants to conquer you. And besides, defending yourself is pointless, since we are all going down anyway, climate change or something, right? Convenient excuse.
http://www.eurocanadian.ca/2017/04/the-coming-civil-war-in-europe.html