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What Myth Will Replace The American Dream?
There is a thinking in primordial images, in symbols which are older than the historical man, which are inborn in him from the earliest times, eternally living, outlasting all generations, still make up the groundwork of the human psyche. It is only possible to live the fullest life when we are in harmony with these symbols; wisdom is a return to them.
Unfortunately, American modernity with its short memory and determination to distance itself from all things ancient, has misapprehended the importance of myth, all the while living out what was for years a sacrosanct myth called the American Dream. Twenty-first century humans generally define “myth” as something that is not true and use it synonymously with “fantasy” or “delusion.” At its root, however, myth is related to mystery, story, and word. The ancient writers and speakers of myth did not consider myths to be falsehoods, but rather, a series of “lies” or tall tales that speak the truth. That is to say that myths are inherently paradoxical, but intended to convey profound lessons.
Barry Spector, author of Madness At The Gates Of The City: The Myth of American Innocence, defines myth as “… the stories we tell ourselves about ourselves. They organize and justify experience and speak to our unresolved conflicts, needs, and fantasies.… we turn to myth to comprehend the elemental forces that move through our lives, to know who we are, to understand which stories inform our consciousness.”(19) In other words, we use myths on the one hand to make sense of our lives or in many instances, to justify or defend them. The American Dream is a myth we have evolved to explain both our history and our exceptionalism.
We assume that in the modern world, ancient stories such as Greek myths have no relevance to our lives, yet all myths and stories are replete with archetypal themes. Archetypes are merely motifs in the human psyche that under certain circumstances and in the midst of specific experiences become activated or constellated and influence our current reality. For example, the mother archetype is present in the psyche of every woman, but it becomes highly activated when a woman is carrying a child and preparing to give birth—and throughout her life as she fulfills the role of mothering. Even if a woman never has a child, her maternal energy is likely to appear at some point in her life, and when it does, the mother archetype is stirred and will inform how she manages her caretaking.
When we consider the myth of the American dream, for example, a number of archetypes become obvious. Before exploring this notion, let’s look at the essential contents of the American dream. It goes something like this:
The United States is the land of opportunity. Our ancestors came here to flee persecution in Europe, and in doing so discovered that if they worked hard and were willing to make sacrifices, they could not only live freely, but could become successful at anything they undertook. Over the centuries, their hard work produced a society in which people could begin at the very bottom of the economic ladder and rise to the top. Eventually, and particularly after World War II, they created a middle class existence in which they could acquire gainful employment and on the basis of their hard work, receive promotions and all manner of rewards. They could buy a home at a reasonable price, have full health insurance for themselves and their families, build a generous retirement package, put their kids through college, and spend their golden years traveling or pursuing hobbies that they had no time to pursue when they were working hard, carving out their American dream. At the end of life, one will have paid for one’s funeral in advance and left a generous inheritance for one’s descendants.
So let’s notice the archetypal themes in the myth: land of opportunity; ancestors; persecution; triumph over adversity; success; heroism; entitlement; elderhood; prosperity; legacy.
Exploring each in depth would be a fascinating study, but more importantly, let’s also notice what is not part of the story: conquest and genocide of millions of indigenous people which made this kind of astonishing success possible; the privileges afforded to people of Anglo ethnicity; the role of war and resource exploitation in creating a flourishing economy; a basic assumption that health care is a human right; the assumption that young people should have access to a fundamental college education; the assumption that at a certain age, the biology of most humans begins to slow down, and they need to work less and enjoy their leisure time more.
Some of these themes are incredibly dark, and others are assumptions that the middle class adopted in order to achieve a desirable quality of life. Nevertheless, what stories omit is equally as important as what they disclose. The American dream is a mixed story: in part, a story of genocide, racism, classicism, geopolitical and resource imperialism, exceptionalism, and entitlement—as well as humanitarian assumptions about what constitutes a rich quality of life.
Nearly all myths contain mixed themes featuring complicated characters who possess qualities that are both “good” and “bad.”
Perhaps the most important reality excluded from the American Dream is the fate of all heroes. The hero (or heroine) is an archetype. H/She sets out to complete a task which the gods (or an inner voice) have ordered. His/her efforts soon become a journey of struggle with forces opposed to the task, and if the hero becomes a victim of hubris, that is, a prisoner of his/her own ego, forgetting the mission on which they were sent by something greater than themselves, either suddenly or eventually, they are destined to fail. The hero may return home having learned a number of spiritual or philosophical lessons, or the hero may fall into his/her own foibles and learn nothing—or h/she may be consumed with hubris and thereby fall, literally or symbolically. A classic example of the latter would be the Greek myth of Icarus who as Wikipedia states, “attempted to escape from Crete by means of wings that his father constructed from feathers and wax. He ignored instructions not to fly too close to the sun, and the melting wax caused him to fall into the sea where he drowned.”
Sooner or later, the heroic perspective must be tempered by “the gods,” or if you prefer, life. Once the hero chooses to humble him/herself, h/she is no longer a “hero” and becomes quintessentially human. To be human is to acknowledge one’s vulnerability and lack of invincibility, and most importantly, to grasp one’s interdependence on and with forces beyond oneself. If the heroic individual (or culture) refuses to be tempered, humbled, and instructed by life, they will ultimately and inevitably encounter their demise.
The American Dream is nothing if not heroic, and it has never recognized what happens to all heroes who refuse to learn from the lessons of their journey.
So whether you choose to perceive the dissolution of the American Dream as the hero’s journey or as the collapse of industrial civilization—or both, the American Dream was fated to fail each time the collective refused to be instructed by something greater than itself.
The question now at hand is: What myth might replace the American Dream? The question assumes, however, that America as we know it will (or should) endure physically as a contiguous stretch of land between two oceans and also assumes that as its demise accelerates, the dominant culture will prevail alongside a number of subcultures. What I suspect are more accurate assumptions are that: 1) The geography of the continental United States may, at some point, be fragmented severely or perhaps unrecognizably by a variety of earth changes; 2) A rotting infrastructure will eventually result in dramatic estrangement of regions from one another; 3) New myths will be constructed by local populations who form their own autonomous cultures as old stories are told and parsed for those aspects that might be useful to retain and utilize, and those aspects that might be eliminated entirely.
I might have chosen any number of stories to insert here, but this one keeps nagging me to relate. It comes from West Africa’s tribal tradition and conveys some arresting symbolism which is deeply relevant to our time.
One day, a young man and young woman were walking through a field of flowers. It was a lovely summer day. Birds were singing, the sun was sparkling between the leaves of lush, green trees, the air was soft and fragrant with the flowers, and the sky was cloudless. Suddenly, the young man and woman saw ahead of them, off in the distance, a man who appeared to be waving at them. They kept walking toward him, and soon enough, they realized the man was waving at them to come closer, and they also realized that he was their father. Now this greatly surprised them, especially since a few weeks prior, their father had died.
As they came close to their father he said, “Come with me. I have something I want you to see.” They followed him as he walked into the field and then began walking into an opening under the ground. He descended into the earth, and they followed behind him on a small path, and then the path expanded into a regular road. Finally, they came to what looked like a village, but no people were around.
Then their father stopped and said to them, “Go over there and hide behind those bushes and watch. Watch very carefully. I’m going to go away, but I will return, and when I do, I want you to tell me what you saw.”
The boy and girl waited patiently and finally many people from the village came and stood in the center of it. They just stood there for awhile, and then soon enough, a man who had the appearance of a chief came toward the people, and they parted ways for him, and he came and stood in the center of them. Then the chief turned one side of his body toward all the people, and the boy and girl noticed that that side of his body was covered with rotting flesh and was infested with maggots. As soon as he showed the people, they approached him and began pulling off the rotting flesh and removing the maggots. After a while, that side of his body was clean and no longer rotting and the flesh there was healthy.
Then the chief walked away into the darkness. Soon after, the people left as well. As their father had told them, the boy and girl just waited there behind the bush. Then after awhile, the people from the village came back into the center of it and just stood there. Then soon enough, the man who looked like the chief came back. This time, he revealed the other side of his body which was covered with gold, and the people approached him and began polishing the gold on that side of his body until it was as shiny as the sun the boy and girl had just seen as they were walking in the flower-filled field. Then after awhile, the people stopped polishing the gold, and the chief again left and walked away into the darkness. Then the people went away, and the boy and girl remained behind the bush.
It wasn’t long until their father came again and asked them what they had seen. They recounted to him the coming of the people and then the chief, and the maggots, the rotting flesh, how the people had removed them, how the chief went away and then how the people went away. The boy and girl also told him how the people came back and how the chief came back and how he showed them the golden side of his body and how the people polished it. They told him how the chief went away again and then how the people went away, and how they remained behind the bush until their father returned.
Then their father motioned to them to follow him. They did so and continued back on the road from which they had come until they again found the narrow path and the opening up into the upper world. They were back again in the beautiful field with the sun, the birds, the flowers, and the trees. Their father just stood their, and they walked passed him across the field, and they began to talk about what they had seen in the underworld and how it is that there is an upper world and an underworld and how it is that there is light and dark in the world—maggots and rotting flesh at one time and gold and people making it shiny and bright at another time.
Thus, the story ends as we leave the young man and woman walking through the field having this discussion.
Let’s notice the archetype of the elder and the young man and woman and the opposites of youth and elder in the story. Very important is the fact that the father wanted to teach his children a lesson, but could not do so when he was alive and definitely could not do so in the upper world in the light of day. Their willingness to follow death and descend to the underworld was essential.
What they witnessed was a series of crucial events. They witnessed a phenomenal event of community acceptance and support. The people did not judge the chief for the fact that one side of his body was covered with maggots and rotting flesh. Rather, they joined together to help heal him. When the community understands that we are all wounded and need each other in order to heal, deep healing can occur—in everyone.
Nor did they judge him because the other side of his body was covered with gold. No envy or jealousy present because one side of his body was golden. Instead, they simply polished the gold to make it brighter and more brilliant. The gold might symbolize each person’s gifts and what we have to offer the world. In the same way that the caring community helps heal its members, the community also polishes and supports everyone’s talents and skills, without jealousy or competition.
Each time I hear or read or tell this story, I am struck with these merciful and caring acts of the community. Yes, the man they attended to was similar to a chief or perhaps was their chief, but the story does not convey a sense of subservience. Rather, one feels as if this is what the people are used to doing—with each other, regardless of status in the community. Authority figure or no, the fact is that one side of his body was covered with maggots and rotting flesh. He was sick and needed healing.
And there is the ascent into the upper world again by the father and the children. With every descent to the dark places, there is an ascent once again to beauty and lightness. We just never get to know exactly when that might happen. As I say when I tell stories, it happens “after a long time or a short time or whatever time it is.”
Perhaps the most important detail of the story comes when the young man and young woman “walk past their father” in the upper world. This is a story of the elder reaching out to youth to teach the young person a lesson that can only be experienced in the underworld. As a result, the wise and transformed young person comes back from the ordeal and “walks past” the elder. Whatever lessons the elder might impart, the wise younger person will, and should, “walk past them” in terms of becoming even wiser. The boy and girl are forever changed and do not walk through the beautiful field mindlessly discussing the weather or boyfriends or girlfriends, but rather, how it is that there is light and dark in the world, maggots and rotting flesh on one side of a person and bright, shining gold on the other side.
Some of the themes that come to mind as I tell the story: Simplicity, death, life, beauty, upper world, under world, the intimate connection of youth and elder, the healing and polishing power of the community.
I invite you to think about the part of the story that most captured your attention. Whatever that part(s) is, that piece has something important for you to reflect on.
There is no one story that will replace the American Dream, but stories like this one—and there are thousands—can inform the myth(s) we create for building and preserving the next culture. In order to do so, however, we must recognize that we cannot live without myth, for it is an essential part of our humanity. If we attempt to do so, given the fact that something in us needs myth, we will only create more myths that echo the American Dream—with themes of heroism, greed, entitlement, narcissism, exploitation, exceptionalism, and myriad abuses of power. How we emotionally and spiritually prepare for and navigate collapse will provide the raw materials for the myths we make and will live by in a post-industrial world.
61 Comments on "What Myth Will Replace The American Dream?"
onlooker on Wed, 26th Apr 2017 2:03 pm
The American Dream is the worse Myth we have ever invented. It encompasses the traits that have bought humanity to the brink. If we survive our Myth or Myths will revolve around polar opposites of the American Dream
Apneaman on Wed, 26th Apr 2017 2:47 pm
American & global nightmare
The Last Time There Was This Much Carbon Dioxide in the Air, Giant Armadillos Roamed on Earth
“New scientific estimates show that the last time there was this much carbon dioxide in the earth’s atmosphere may have been during the Pliocene era, some 4.5 million years ago.”
“There were dire wolves and camelops and giant armadillos.
Sea levels 4.5 million years ago were as much as 131 feet, or 40 meters, higher than today.”
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_last_time_there_was_this_much_carbon_dioxide_in_the_air_florida_was_und
Apneaman on Wed, 26th Apr 2017 3:01 pm
Scientists keep upping their projections for how much the oceans will rise this century
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/04/26/scientists-keep-increasing-their-projections-for-how-much-the-oceans-will-rise-this-century/
A few years behind me again. Stands to reason when I have been saying for years that it’s worse than most believe and the scientists are self censoring, in part because they want to keep their jobs and in part they are influenced by humans inherent optimism bias and other biases too.
Top Climate Expert: Crisis is Worse Than We Think & Scientists Are Self-Censoring to Downplay Risk
https://www.democracynow.org/2015/12/8/top_climate_expert_crisis_is_worse
Davy on Wed, 26th Apr 2017 3:12 pm
“American dream” what’s that? That has been dead for some time now. It is a worn out cliché. What is more interesting is what will replace the myth of a global debt based modernism that has replaced the American dream? At some point that which facilitates all this modern techno progress must be paid for. Documents must be signed and people paid. Balance sheets must balance and income statements must sooner or later be positive. We are in an environment of moral hazard now. We know time honored basic principles of accounting, law, and civilized norms are now relative. We have extend and pretend policy of keeping liquidity and confidence going regardless if it is productive or not. Debt through leverage, margins, and hypothecation are excessive. Shadow banking and rehypothecation are new ways of leveraging leverage. Repression of money value and monetary easing are blurring price discovery.
Debt has now taken on a life of its own. Debt is spawning new debt as old debt accumulates in puddles. How long can debt remain the foundation for the myth of techno progressive market based capitalism? In the end it is a confidence game with each other and ourselves. It is in the end a mental state and the acceptance of a story. When will the myth (story) become a myth (false belief)? Debt based modernism we call globalism is now near a threshold. The options for this myth are limited. Is it possible to replace debt? The American dream became debt based global modernism through financialization. We are in the vicinity of change to something and that something is ominous because there are no plan B’s. With energy there is talk about a renewable future. You can buy into that or not but that is a legitimate plan B of sorts. There is no plan B for debt except bankruptcy.
Apneaman on Wed, 26th Apr 2017 3:50 pm
No plan B. Never been one. Only one plan. The Ape-Yeast will continue to suck up as much glucose as they can until it’s all gone or the climate hammers them and the biosphere can no longer support them.
Key Heat Trapping Gas Crosses 410 Parts Per Million Threshold — Highest Level in Past 5-20 Million Years
“This past week, atmospheric carbon dioxide levels struck a new ominous milestone.
Clocking in at 410.7 parts per million at the Mauna Loa Observatory, this key heat trapping gas hit a range not seen on Earth for many millions of years.”
“These levels now correspond with the Miocene Climate Epoch when seas were 120 to 190 feet higher than today and when global temperatures ranged from 3 to 5 degrees Celsius hotter than preindustrial averages.”
“Unfortunately, carbon dioxide is not the only heat trapping gas humans have emitted into the atmosphere. Add in methane and other greenhouse gasses and you end up with a heat forcing roughly equivalent to 493 parts per million of CO2 (CO2e) during 2017 at present rates of increase. This level is very close to the maximum Miocene boundary level of 500 parts per million — a total amount of heat forcing that likely hasn’t been seen in 30 million years.”
https://robertscribbler.com/2017/04/26/key-heat-trapping-gas-crosses-410-parts-per-million-threshold-highest-level-in-past-5-20-million-years/
Apneaman on Wed, 26th Apr 2017 4:01 pm
The Arctic Is a Profoundly Different Place Now
The changes in the region are so significant they will have implications across the globe
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-arctic-is-a-profoundly-different-place-now/
Apneaman on Wed, 26th Apr 2017 4:06 pm
Larkana’s temperature touches 50°C [122 F] —- “Never in the history of the Sindh province, had temperature risen to 50°C in the month of April,”
https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/199698-Larkanas-temperature-touches-50C
bug on Wed, 26th Apr 2017 4:58 pm
What is this “we cannot live without myth” in the last paragraph?
You are born, school, work, croak, that is it.
And then she writes ” something in us needs myths”, for what? To say how fucking special we/humans/Americans are?
None of that will prepare people to navigate and prepare for collapse. When it comes, people will be thinking more important stuff, like food.
Cloggie on Wed, 26th Apr 2017 5:14 pm
The American Dream:
https://envisioningtheamericandream.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/family-cars-46-swscan01571-copy1.jpg
Essence: today is good, tomorrow will be better. Never ending increase of prosperity. Can-do mentality. Today the moon, tomorrow Mars. Families are intact. White, America is European America. In America everything is bigger. Indestructible optimism. Vitality. All movies have a happy end.
And now it apparently is over. White America is under dire demographic threat. Over the last 100 years the steady rise of the Left destroyed the American Dream. Early 1900 they owned Wallstreet and the Media and the Fed. In 1933 they owned the Roosevelt government and New Deal. In 1945 they owned Europe and set the US on course of the US global empire. In the sixties they began to promote the civil society. In 1965 they opened the borders for mass migration form the third world. In 1969 Woodstock, psychedelic music and drugs and feminism and glorification of the third world. In the Seventies a giant reeducation program with programs like “All in the Family” and in the eighties the Cosby Show. Around 1970, 25 years after the war, the Holocaust campaign began in all earnest.
Russia is offering a little bit of a template of what could happen after American Empire and American Dream. First a difficult decade and transformation away from the MIC. The idea of progress will make way for glorification of the past, beginning shortly after 1776.
This could be in one picture the new Myth:
http://therightstuff.biz/content/images/2016/06/Boone-20pano-20from-20NPS-201200px.jpg
It is a backward looking Myth, reactionary if you will.
Apneaman on Wed, 26th Apr 2017 5:51 pm
Canadian government promotes breeding.
As a single man, I get no tax breaks like married folks do and now I am helping pay for these blind retards to have kids AND raise them. Stupid babies.
Tax breaks for infertility treatments broadened under new budget
““The breadth and depth of patients who could be covered by this tax break has certainly increased,” she told CTV’s Your Morning Tuesday.
The 15 per cent tax break will also apply retroactively for 10 years, meaning even those who underwent treatment in 2007 will be eligible to apply for the credit.
The federal government says the changes are really a “clarification” of the current medical expenses tax laws, to ensure that same sex couples and single individuals have full access the credit.
Dr. Sharma says making the tax credit retroactive seems to signal that the government recognizes that infertility is a growing rising problem.”
http://www.ctvnews.ca/health/tax-breaks-for-infertility-treatments-broadened-under-new-budget-1.3343696
The Canada child tax benefit (CCTB) is a tax-free payment made to eligible families for previous years to help them with the cost of raising children under 18 years of age. As of July 1, 2016, the CCTB is replaced by the Canada child benefit, however, you can still apply for previous years.
http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/cctb/
What’s next? Am I gonna have to chip in for juniors braces and skiing lessons?
I never had a problem with paying taxes – it’s just that taxpayer funded breeding & rearing programs whilst overshoot gets worse by the day is the height of lunacy and denial. Talk about dreamers.
Boat on Wed, 26th Apr 2017 5:56 pm
Ape,
Amen, from the back pew. No subsidies for having kids and no immigration = dropping populations in many countries.
Apneaman on Wed, 26th Apr 2017 5:59 pm
Boat, thanks for attending my church of Doom. Bless you my son.
Cloggie on Wed, 26th Apr 2017 6:28 pm
Moor doom for Canada:
http://www.eurocanadian.ca/2017/04/malala-poster-child-of-globalism.html#more
On a positive note, there is a lot of marriage material to choose from for our lonely race-mixing champ (chimp?) apneachimp.
Meanwhile in Londinistan:
https://altright.com/2017/04/26/east-london-is-one-big-no-go-zone-for-whites/
Go Speed Racer on Wed, 26th Apr 2017 9:09 pm
If we have to pay for their babies,
it’s fair we should get to phuck their wives.
Go Speed Racer on Wed, 26th Apr 2017 9:11 pm
It’s called American Dream, because dream is a
hallucination that does not exist in reality.
Something you cannot have.
Apneaman on Wed, 26th Apr 2017 10:32 pm
Hair clog, in addition to the Canadians liberating your cowardly country in WWII, Canadian forces, along with the Americans and Brits hung around Europe guarding y’all from each other and the Commies until the cold war ended. If not for that you would have grown up saluting a hammer and sickle flag every fucking morning in Commie school. Liberated you and persevered your freedom, so you little dutch faggots could grow your tulips and dance around in your gay little wooden shoes in peace your entire life. See your entire life of freedom is owed to others. Indisputable. Methinks your little EU experiment is coming to a close and when it does it will be back to what y’all was doing for thousands of years before the allies showed up and made it safe for a handful of decades. Except this time there will be no stopping the invasion from across the Mediterranean or from the East. Never again. Not one dime or drop of blood to protect your asses if it was up to me.
1m African migrants may be en route to Europe, says former UK envoy
Warning comes as EU struggles to stem the flow of migrants through the Mediterranean and deal with appalling conditions in detention camps
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/02/1m-african-migrants-may-be-en-route-to-europe-says-former-uk-envoy
Better start prepping hair clog….no no not food – Vaseline to prepare for all that ME & African refugee-migrant cock that’s about to get shoved up your ass.
Cloggie on Thu, 27th Apr 2017 3:43 am
Hair clog, in addition to the Canadians liberating your cowardly country in WWII, Canadian forces, along with the Americans and Brits hung around Europe guarding y’all from each other and the Commies until the cold war ended.
There we go again, the TalmudTurd trying to sell his lies, although I have explained him many times what really happened. And at some point he even said something to the effect of…
Clogmeister, even if you are right with your revisionist views, don’t you have to admit that the Jews outsmarted the Germans and that they should simply submit to the rule of the Jews?… or words to that effect.
Oh wait, here is the real quote from the ApneaTurd:
Clog, I guess the Jews have bested you and everyone else right? There are so few of them that they must be the real supermen to dominate like they do. Why not stop your struggling and bow down to your betters? To the superior race? Is there some measure of superiority that I’m missing? The most powerful are the most powerful. The cream rises to the top. Survival of the fittest and all that. You only look like a sore loser not being able to accept your inferiority. It’s simply the natural order of things. Y’all been trying to rub them people out for over 2000 years and yet they still your overlords.
Da Jews R # 1 Da Jews R # 1 Da Jews R # 1 Da Jews R # 1 Da Jews R # 1 Da Jews R # 1 Da Jews R # 1
First of all, the TalmudTurd has the nerve to sell the North-American presence as a sort of protection against the communist, completely ignoring that the Soviet were the f* Alllies of the Anglos until 1948-ish:
https://www.amazon.com/Dear-Mr-Stalin-Correspondence-Roosevelt-ebook/dp/B001P3NV84/ref=sr_1_1
http://nationalvanguard.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/bloody_yalta.jpg
[part 1]
Cloggie on Thu, 27th Apr 2017 3:44 am
Let this sink in: the Anglos were the Alllies of the monsters who in peace time alone killed up to 20 million of their own people, who were not convinced of the blessings of “Jewish communism”, where the Germans up until 1939 had merely killed some 600 people in 6 years time (basically your Texan average), who were btw mostly Nazis in internal power struggles. And had some 28,000 communist stored behind bars, where communists belong anyway. And yet they claim the moral superiority (“Good War”). Canadians, at the time suckers of the British Empire (paying taxes without representation and sending canon fother) didn’t liberate us in Holland, they added us instead to the US empire and as such set us up for future multicultural destruction. The Germans never had the intention to conquer us, but invaded after it had become clear that the Britain-oriented Dutch government had secretly allowed overpass to the mobilized British and French troops, roaming the French country-side, to attack the German industrial heart in the Ruhr-area via Holland. The Dutch were not neutral at all and we got what we deserved.
Next the talmudTurd is bragging about the so-called bravery of the Anglos, who in reality were mainly busy fire-bombing German woman and children from safe 10 km altitude and only showed up in June 1944 in Continental Europe to get their piece of the European pie, before Stalin could grab it all. The defeat of the Germans (planned by Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin as per 1934) was accomplished by the Soviets, not the Anglos, who merely had supported Stalin by sending war material.
[part 2]
Cloggie on Thu, 27th Apr 2017 3:47 am
The situation seems hopeless, but isn’t (for Europeans). Thanks to Dolfie and Joe, the entire space between the Atlantic and Ural mountains between 1942 (Final Solution=deportation) and 1970, most Jews left Eurasia to set up shop in Israel, the US and South-America. Now America has the problem and the country won’t survive that fact as even the libtard author of the seed article admits (without having a clue about the cause):
New myths will be constructed by local populations who form their own autonomous cultures as old stories are told and parsed for those aspects that might be useful to retain and utilize.
That’s New Age rambling for saying that the US might fall apart along ethnic lines.
But hey ApneaChimp, keep them coming, as you give me the opportunity to hit back and deconstruct your historic lies.
[part 3]
Theedrich on Thu, 27th Apr 2017 5:39 am
The usual lie: Whitey is evil because of his “conquest and genocide of millions of indigenous people which made this kind of astonishing success possible.” The authoress might want to read “Constant Battles: The Myth of the Peaceful, Noble Savage”, or anthropologist Robert B. Edgerton’s “Sick Societies: Challenging the Myth of Primitive Harmony,” or Robert Whelan’s “Wild in Woods: The Myth of the Noble Eco-Savage,” or any number of serious works which show that all the “indigenous peoples” had temporarily acquired their territories through conquest and genocide of other “indigenous” primitives.
The above scribble is just more leftist fantasy based on the usual genosuicidal urges of the nihilists. The writer spends too much time watching the Yid mainstream media, and so just follows the herd.
deadlykillerbeaz on Thu, 27th Apr 2017 6:38 am
60,000,000 American bison trampling the Great Plains into a pile of dirt had to change. It was a nightmare for the other creatures wandering around the tall grass and then all of a sudden, stampeded to death by a thundering herd of thousands of buffalo.
Enter Buffalo Bill and the Sharp’s .50 caliber rifle. The Great Plains had too many wild animals. However, I did see the biggest moose I’d ever seen here about two weeks ago.
No more buffalo endangering the poor animals who were scared to death of dying by a buffalo stampede. Humans took over the job.
Now cattle roam the prairies and that is better. Hay land is what is there now, the grasses can be cut and rolled into hay, managed land resources increases the carrying capacity. Coyotes are a danger to cattle, especially calves, and if the mama cow can’t drive the coyote into the dirt, a rifle will be the necessary course of action.
The world is a better place without all of those wild animals roaming around wreaking havoc and everything like that.
Grizzly bears were hunted down and killed because there were too many of those too.
Then Teddy Roosevelt traveled to Africa to shoot the wild animals there too. The wildlife in Africa was in overshoot, so American hunters did the world a favor and the wild animals to boot by killing them off before life on earth was wiped out by the wild animals themselves.
The earth itself was in danger of extinction.
It was a nightmare for the entire world.
The American Dream was the dream come true for everyone the world over, even the animals.
The American Dream saved the earth itself.
Don’t knock it.
Cloggie on Thu, 27th Apr 2017 7:45 am
First meeting between Trump and Putin probably July 7, G20 in Hamburg.
#IchBinEinHamburger
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/olaf-scholz-zum-g-20-gipfel-in-hamburg-getanzt-wird-mit-denen-die-im-saal-sind-a-1144965.html
Cloud9 on Thu, 27th Apr 2017 8:22 am
I don’t know about any of the rest of you but I had no choice in being placed in the tier in which I was born. The color of my skin, the class I was born into, the language that I speak, none of that was my choosing. I have never killed an Indian. I have never owned a slave. I have never invaded a nation or bombed a city. The resource wars we are waging are the results of decisions made by people I have never met. I have never had the opportunity to change any of this. Therefore, I refuse to accept the blame for any of this. My accusers may go pound sand.
What this author is speaking to are commonly called fables. Well I’ve got a couple: What goes around comes around and what goes up comes down.
My fear is that we will embrace Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer! My hope is that we return to a more simple time and once again to a strict interpretation of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
Cloggie on Thu, 27th Apr 2017 8:37 am
My fear is that we will embrace Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer!
That has no meaning for the US. What that meant was in the German context of 1933-1939, was that the Germans wanted all the German territories (ein Volk) back that were cut off from Germany in Versailles and put them back in one single territory (ein Reich).
In the US-2017 there is no “Ein Volk”, but many “Volken”.
What you should fear for the US context is separatism, like happened in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria, Ukraine and the USSR.
onlooker on Thu, 27th Apr 2017 10:06 am
http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/04/26/empire-abroad-empire-at-home/
The institutions and ideas U.S. elites used to project “full spectrum dominance” onto the global stage have eventually become part of the political order in the U.S. The “full spectrum” includes us.
It is empire — most of all — that dooms democracy and constitutional republics. As corporations have an insatiable drive for profit, empires have an insatiable drive for power. And that makes imperial actors hostile to the limits on authority, checks and balances, separation of powers and basic rights that the U.S. republic at least aspired to.
As the institutions of representative democracy become weaker and weaker — devoted only to serving the corporate power and global empire — the need for social control of the people becomes greater and greater.
Cloud9 on Thu, 27th Apr 2017 11:36 am
Clog, the Volk are the WASPs, a population that has been marginalized by Social Marxism.
Cloud9 on Thu, 27th Apr 2017 11:59 am
THE WRATH OF THE AWAKENED SAXON
by Rudyard Kipling
It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late,
With long arrears to make good,
When the Saxon began to hate.
They were not easily moved,
They were icy — willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the Saxon began to hate.
Their voices were even and low.
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show
When the Saxon began to hate.
It was not preached to the crowd.
It was not taught by the state.
No man spoke it aloud
When the Saxon began to hate.
It was not suddently bred.
It will not swiftly abate.
Through the chilled years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the Saxon began to hate.
Cloggie on Thu, 27th Apr 2017 12:23 pm
Clog, the Volk are the WASPs, a population that has been marginalized by Social Marxism.
Yes, I agree with that. They gradually abdicated between 1900 and 1933.
onlooker on Thu, 27th Apr 2017 1:03 pm
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article44524.htm
The Collapse Of The Western Fiat Monetary System May Have Begun
joe on Thu, 27th Apr 2017 1:38 pm
Ill be honest I stopped reading at zionist. Ok its hard for most people to imagine but there is not a greedy jew inside every transaction. Its much worse. Inside every transaction is a promise to redeem every dollar with more fiat toilet paper. There is nothing remotely kosher or halal about the dollar or indeed the pound or the euro. Yet these systems which motivate humans to act without the need for a whip by convincing us that fiat money is in our interest. Its going to be funny watching President Flip Flop tear the system down through his genuine ineptitude and those who control him will not be able to stop the changes. No amount of tax cuts will prevent the FED from acting to stop the US economy overheating above the 2% inflation target rate. All thats going to happen is that tax cuts will be saved to pay for an aging and slowing population. At any stage our faith in fiat toilet paper can end.
onlooker on Thu, 27th Apr 2017 5:39 pm
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/27/us-markets.html
Nasdaq closes at a record high ahead of major tech earnings
The irrational exuberance continues
Apneaman on Thu, 27th Apr 2017 6:55 pm
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Cloggie on Fri, 28th Apr 2017 1:53 am
Whatever the new American Myth will be, for the moment (and the past 100 years) we are stuck with this pattern:
https://twitter.com/jamesperloff/status/855588848998506496/photo/1
Wilson and Trump as the arm-twisted fronts for the real globalist money- and media-powers that want it all.
Meanwhile China and Russia contemplate a real alliance, like the West currently still is:
http://russia-insider.com/en/military/here-how-beijing-feels-about-alliance-russia/ri19701
They are both not there yet, but if the West continues with its aggression (ME, Ukraine) it could become a real possibility, for instance after the stamina-guy leaves office and the old guard of war mongers will be back in spades.
The good news for SCO is that the clock is ticking against the West, that is slowly committing demographic suicide in anticipation of One World, that’s not going to happen. In the end, the Soros-West will just be like the USSR-1991, a hollowed-out empty sleeve, mongrelized, ethnically divided-to-the-core, a shadow of its former self, ready to explode.
TheNationalist on Fri, 28th Apr 2017 7:25 am
It’s strange how the zionists attack real Europeans like Le Pen when it suits them. Its so obvious that Macron is a puppet.
The Holodomor and the jewish bolshevik attack on indigenous Europeans was worse than the holocaust.
Cloggie is right I fear, the Europeans will feast on the carcass of social marxism at this rate.
Cloggie on Fri, 28th Apr 2017 7:27 am
Still fragile in 2016, now the global economic conditions are robust, says ECB chieftain Draghi.
Only point of worry: too low inflation. Recommends higher wages to increase inflation a little.
http://www.volkskrant.nl/economie/ecb-het-gaat-echt-een-stuk-beter-met-de-economie~a4491174/
Apneaman on Fri, 28th Apr 2017 5:30 pm
Hack My Tractor. Please.
http://www.dailyimpact.net/2017/04/28/hack-my-tractor-please/
Apneaman on Fri, 28th Apr 2017 7:08 pm
America’s Rich Get Richer and the Poor Get Replaced by Robots
“The rich-poor gap — the difference in annual income between households in the top 20 percent and those in the bottom 20 percent — ballooned by $29,200 to $189,600 between 2010 and 2015, based on Bloomberg calculations using U.S. Census Bureau data.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-04-26/america-s-rich-poor-divide-keeps-ballooning-as-robots-take-jobs
As friend Boat would say, “it’s just capitalism”
Actually it’s the end of it.
Go Speed Racer on Sat, 29th Apr 2017 3:49 pm
It’s the end of the world as we know it.
Like Bayer-Monsanto, making it illegal to grow
a plant, while the Obama’s Hillary’s and
Trump’s (NO DIFFERENCE) all salivate with
glee, ha ha ha ha, ha ha ha, ha ha ha ha.
NOW the rich people will have so much money they will
buy up all the oxygen.
All the poor people will be asphyxiated because
they can’t afford oxygen.
Apneaman on Sat, 29th Apr 2017 6:59 pm
GSR, I guess you could say capitalism has nailed it.
https://i.redd.it/h6lxmolovdsy.gif
Apneaman on Sat, 29th Apr 2017 7:08 pm
Armed neo-Nazis prepare for potential clash in small Kentucky town
Hate groups have come to tiny Pikeville in a bid for support, but locals fear a violent standoff between the neo-Nazis and anti-fascist protesters
“In a tent deep in the woods of rural Kentucky, an old neo-Nazi spoke bitterly of how he feels “betrayed” by Donald Trump.
“I’m sorry I voted for the son of a bitch, I really am,” said Art Jones, who the Anti-Defamation League identifies as a Holocaust denier who has been dressing in Nazi garb and celebrating Hitler since the 1970s.
“I’m sorry I spent $180 out of my own pocket to buy three big banners that said, ‘President Trump, build the wall’,” the blazer-clad Jones said, to a tent full of about 100 men, some of whom wore paramilitary-style uniforms. “Now he says, ‘Eh, what wall?’ I’m embarrassed that I voted for him.”
Jones blamed Trump’s failures on the “Jewish lobby” and the president’s son-in-law and aide, Jared Kushner, who is Jewish.
“If I could take the vote back,” he said. “I would.””
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/29/neo-nazi-rally-pikeville-kentucky-anti-fascist
I blame Furbies
Apneaman on Sat, 29th Apr 2017 7:26 pm
The humans and their myths
“So they trust in the deity of the Old Testament, an incontinent dotard who soiled Himself and the universe with his corruption, a low-budget divinity passing itself off as the genuine article. (Ask the Gnostics.) They trust in Jesus Christ, a historical cipher stitched together like Frankenstein’s monster out of parts robbed from the graves of messiahs dead and buried – a savior on a stick. They trust in the virgin-pimping Allah and his Drum Major Mohammed, a prophet-come-lately who pioneered a new genus of humbuggery for an emerging market of believers that was not being adequately served by existing religious products. They trust in anything that authenticates their importance as persons, tribes, societies, and particularly as a species that will endure in this world and perhaps in an afterworld that may be uncertain in its reality and unclear in its layout, but which states their craving for values “not of this earth” – that depressing, meaningless place their consciousness must sidestep every day.”
― Thomas Ligotti, The Conspiracy Against the Human Race
onlooker on Sat, 29th Apr 2017 8:11 pm
“religion is the opiate of the masses.”..
Boat on Sat, 29th Apr 2017 8:31 pm
Ape,
Robots wil end the need for poor people. Less people = good for the earth. Now we need to end gov sponsored heart bypass surgery, hips, knees, transplants etc. Unless you can pay in cash. Let’s fight climate change.
makati1 on Sat, 29th Apr 2017 9:04 pm
“Robots wil end the need for poor people.”
Insane comment, but typical of Boat.
“Poor” is a Western term meaning they have less than I do. A typical Filipino makes $8,000 per year. That is average here. In the U$ that would be a “poor” person. All relative.
As for robots, they will end the financial system in place now. They are a pipe dream of the techies, nothing more. They will just hurry the financial collapse that is coming.
onlooker on Sat, 29th Apr 2017 9:28 pm
They are a pipe dream of the techies, nothing more.— More specifically the pipe dream of the financial elites and their biggest wet dream of a new world order
Cloggie on Sat, 29th Apr 2017 10:41 pm
Thomas Ligotti (born July 9, 1953) is a contemporary American horror author and reclusive literary cult figure
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Ligotti
The worldview espoused by Ligotti in both his fiction and non-fiction has been described as profoundly pessimistic and nihilistic. The Washington Post called him “the best kept secret in contemporary horror fiction… He politically identifies as socialist
=========
A leftist nihilist, but I repeat myself, with horror phantasies.
That’s the ApneaTurd for ya. A mental case.
Cloggie on Sat, 29th Apr 2017 10:56 pm
“They are a pipe dream of the techies, nothing more.— More specifically the pipe dream of the financial elites and their biggest wet dream of a new world order”
Wether you like or not, modern production facilities in the West, incl Japan and Korea, are highly roboticized, and become ever more so. It could even stop the decades old trend of moving production to low wage countries like China as robots don’t require wages at all.
It will cause large social problems, making social income inevitable in my view as well as providing land to the low educated so they can provide in their own food.
Audi plant in “backward” Hungary. This is the new production norm in the West.
https://youtu.be/zqsPGkIb4UQ
Apneaman on Sat, 29th Apr 2017 11:15 pm
Boat, are you telling me you care about “the earth”? Not me. It’s just a big fucking rock floating in space with a bunch of organisms on it that come and go and periodically there are extinction events where much of the life gets wiped out. Were in one now. A mass extinction – 75% or more gets wiped out and according to the fossil record this one is the fastest ever. Unprecedented. So the solution to overpopulation is in the pipe and we all gonna see it soon. Hell boat fighting climate change is crazy. You might as well jump in the ocean and wrassle with a big assed great white shark. The only move I’ll be making on climate change is getting out of the way if I am able. Not much I can do about the poor, but I walked 3/4 of a K to the drug store today to get some no prescription, behind the counter generic tylenol with codeine (Canadian thing) and on the way back there was a old rummy pushing a shopping buggy full of god knows what and I pointed out two empty beer cans (10 cents deposit each in BC) laying on the grass to him and gave him a Loonie ($1 coin). Seeing more folks like that around here every year. What used to work is only working for an every shrinking number of people and the only thing the managers can come up with is to try and do more of what used to work but does not anymore. That is a classic symptom of a dying civilization. Same as it ever was. You rabid capitalists keep misconstruing evolutionary basics to justify your beloved system. Survival of the fittest? If that was true there would only be one of every species. The fittest one. Again y’all just repeat shit without ever mulling it over to see if it actually makes sense. More accurately – survival of the adaptable. Adapt to changing environmental/circumstances or die. Human cooperation is how they came to dominate this planet and reach 7.5 Billion. Study any collapse in history and you will see humans stop cooperating and start fighting. It’s already started again – the laws no longer apply to the wealthy predator class and the people have lost faith and hope in the old ideals and many are tribing up for a big fight.
Why “Survival of the Fittest” Is Wrong
“You’ve probably heard it a million times in descriptions of evolution and natural selection. Charles Darwin even liked to say it. But the phrase “survival of the fittest” is wrong, and understanding why can help us better understand what it means to be human.”
http://io9.gizmodo.com/5988401/why-survival-of-the-fittest-is-wrong
Cloggie on Sat, 29th Apr 2017 11:19 pm
Yesterday, the 27 EU memberstates needed 4 minutes to unisono agree upon a common negotion strategy vis-a-vis Brexit and the UK, that is now leaving the European world. Fortunately, the UK can still fallback on Iceland and Turkey, that closed down Wikipedia yesterday. [snicker].
Britain could easily lose 3.2 million Europeans and become an even darker place. Well, at least the Muslims will stay, now that’s a comfort.
The UK exit could very well become nasty and stimulate better EU-Russian and EU-Chinese relations and a further EU estrangement with Anglosphere in general.
Next week le Pen is going to lose the election and that is a good thing, as the last thing we need is another 1914 or 1939. The European Right needs to reinvent itself and abandon its anti-EU attitudes. Anti-immigration is a majority standpoint, anti-euro and anti-EU is not. Even the French are 70% pro-euro. We need a European Right, not a French or German Right. We need to fight Islam and feminism on a European level, not national level.
Boat on Sun, 30th Apr 2017 12:01 am
Clogged,
Europe like America has far to many people playing tribal politics. If Britin for example had lobbied for less or no permanent status and pushed for country hires from their own population, the average Brit would want to stay in the EU. In other words no immigration when unemployment is above 2 percent. Like the US recession we had 10 million newly unemployed and kept brining in a million immigrants per year lengthening the misery of millions. No wonder we got Trump. Even before the recession immigrants had taken over 10’s of millions of lower paying jobs while forcing lower wages in many industries. For me this is not the immigrants fault. More like gov incompetence. Gov insensivity.
Isolating ones country won’t solve much because the robot is the next wave of immigrant.