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New York City to ban natural gas hookups in new buildings by 2030
New York City this week said it will join a growing list of U.S. cities banning natural gas hookups in new buildings.
New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio said on Thursday as part of his State of the City address that New York will “ban new fossil fuel connections in new construction by at least 2030.”
That follows moves to ban new hookups by several cities in California, including Berkeley and San Francisco, and in the U.S. Northeast as part of a local movement away from fossil fuels and toward cleaner forms of energy to stop global warming.
Municipal bans, however, have been met by legislation in several states, including Arizona, Indiana, Kansas, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Mississippi and Missouri that prevents cities from prohibiting new gas hookups. {nL1N2AY11T]
De Blasio said New York City will establish intermediate goals in the short-term and seek to ensure the ban does not negatively affect renters and low-income residents.
11 Comments on "New York City to ban natural gas hookups in new buildings by 2030"
Duncan Idaho on Sat, 30th Jan 2021 11:22 am
Has left NYC:
https://images.dailykos.com/images/911441/story_image/trump.jpg?1611882164
Duncan Idaho on Sat, 30th Jan 2021 11:38 am
A Love Letter to Marjorie Taylor Greene
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/jaime-oneill/95075/a-love-letter-to-marjorie-taylor-greene
Duncan Idaho on Sat, 30th Jan 2021 1:01 pm
There’s No Uniting With Fascists?
https://truthout.org/articles/stop-trying-to-make-this-about-unity-theres-no-uniting-with-fascists/
Maybe some of our wingpawn friends can comment?
Outcast_Searcher on Sat, 30th Jan 2021 3:27 pm
So if the electricity goes out, folks can just freeze to death?
What do poor homeowners do that can’t afford fancy generator setups, expensive solar and battery setups, etc?
Or will new homes not count as new buildings?
I understand wanting to get away from burning lots of FF’s, but having practical, affordable alternatives to deal with real issues needs to happen FIRST, as far as banning fuels where backups can be critical in, say, blizzard country in frigid temps.
Cloggie on Sat, 30th Jan 2021 4:00 pm
“What do poor homeowners do that can’t afford fancy generator setups, expensive solar and battery setups, etc?“
Electric heatpumps.
Dooma on Sat, 30th Jan 2021 9:52 pm
“Poor homeowners” is an oxymoron in Australia.
A cheap house in a country town, 160km (100 miles) from a capital city costs at least AUD $350,000. The median price in Melbourne is now $1M.
I agree with everything that you say Outcast_Searcher, I just find that term humourous in the crazy Australian housing market.
makati1 on Sat, 30th Jan 2021 10:26 pm
A million dollar home is just a bigger money pit. What happens when the real estate tax on that $1M comes due and there is no $$$ to pay, thanks to the flu bullshit?
You can be sure the government is going to collect on the value increase sometime. But then, when the housing bubble explodes…as it will…
Cloggie on Sat, 30th Jan 2021 11:19 pm
In the Netherlands btw, new houses do not get a natural gas connection by law since 2019 (there are exceptions to the tune of 9%)
https://www.ad.nl/economie/bouwsector-per-2019-geen-gas-meer-in-nieuwbouwwoning~acfe5c71/
Interesting that the building sector even went further than the government required.
Dooma on Sun, 31st Jan 2021 8:57 am
I really hope that it does stop, Mak. During the worst of our Covid lockdowns, prices went up! The average Aussie has never carried so much personal debt as they do now.
Because our reserve bank has set interest rates at close to zero, couples on a combined income of around 150K are borrowing 5-700K. That is a substantial amount of debt.
I remember when houses were cheap and money was expensive (18%). If interest rates were to rise by just a couple of percentage points, many people would be unable to service their mortgages.
Dooma on Sun, 31st Jan 2021 8:57 am
I really hope that it does stop, Mak. During the worst of our Covid lockdowns, prices went up! The average Aussie has never carried so much personal debt as they do now.
Because our reserve bank has set interest rates at close to zero, couples on a combined income of around 150K are borrowing 5-700K. That is a substantial amount of debt.
I remember when houses were cheap and money was expensive (18%). If interest rates were to rise by just a couple of percentage points, many people would be unable to service their mortgages.
makati1 on Sun, 31st Jan 2021 4:27 pm
Dooma, the old “rule of thumb” was to buy a home that cost less than three (3) years income. My 1st house, purchased in 1975, was twice my annual income, and we lived there for 12 years before moving up, as my income rose.
Ditto, six (6) months income for a car. Easily done in those days. (50s & 60s) Now the world has gone insane with debt and the banks are pushing for even more. Sigh!
I’m glad I am totally out of all kinds of debt, but it took years to get to that situation, and a lot of sacrifice of “wants”.