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Kunstler: Things Have Changed
At least in wartime, the bars stay open. That’s how you know this is a different thing altogether from whatever else you’ve seen in your lifetime. Even those of us who signed up for this trip — that is, who expected a long emergency — may be a little bit in cosmic awe at just how much shit is flying into the ol’ fan. I know I am. The gods must have glugged down a mighty draft of Dulcolax.
Did you get the feeling, as I did, watching the Sanders-Biden debate last night — the inadequate versus the irrelevant — that the world they were blathering about possibly doesn’t exist anymore? The world of institutions that actually function? Like, the ones that conjure up whatever sum of money you demand to keep all the wheels spinning? Remember that Hemingway line about the guy who went broke? Slowly, then all at once. That’s us. Medicare for all now? Really? More like, a year from now every physician in America may be the equivalent of the old country doc toting a black bag around to home visits. Unfortunately, there aren’t enough horses left in America, and the few buggies we’ve got are all in the museum.
The mega financial bubble-of-bubbles is deflating with frightful velocity precisely because of the efforts since 2008 to artificially inflate it. The Federal Reserve gave it one final blast Sunday night — while everybody else was counting their rolls of toilet paper — and the effect was like blowing hot air into a shredded Zeppelin. Stock futures are “limit down” as I write, before the Wall Street open. Gold is getting pounded into the ground like a grape stake and silver is so low it looks like the hedge fund managers are down to pawning grandma’s table service. (Hint, the PMs will bounce back hard; the rest, probably not so much.)
Nobody really knows how deep and how harsh this gets (and perhaps the ones who have a clue ain’t sayin’). But the situation presents two salient questions: how much disorder is entailed in this ordeal? And what does the world look like when the convulsion phase of this thing is over?
Americans have never been through anything remotely like this. The disorders of the Civil War were sharp and horrendous military operations conducted mostly in cornfields, pastures, and woods (yes, and some small cities like Richmond, pop. 38,000, and Atlanta, pop. 10,000). When the smoke cleared, battered Dixieland emerged to numb civil order. Up in Yankeedom, the New York draft riots ran for a week around the small patch of Manhattan island, but everybody else went along with Mr. Lincoln’s program. After all that, America got on quickly with the lively business of the 19th century: railroads, mines, factories, and all that. The world wars took place in foreign lands, and the home-front scene of the 1940s now looks nostalgically idyllic.
The stresses mounting on the national scene today reflect the extreme fragilities of the way-of-life we constructed since then, and an awful lot of bad choices we made in the process, like suburbanizing the nation and making everybody a hostage to happy motoring. I won’t belabor that point, except to ask how are those vast regions of the country going to manage daily life as the supply chains wobble? I’d say a shortage of toilet paper may only be the beginning of their problems.
The cities — at least, the few that didn’t already implode from the inside out — made assumptions about how big and tall they could grow which don’t jibe with the new circumstances chugging ferociously down the line. Just think what a lockdown of the global economy will do to all those residential skyscraper projects lately hoisted up in New York, San Francisco and Boston? I’ll tell you: They are assets instantly converted into liabilities. And how will these cities even begin to pay for maintaining their complex infrastructures and services when the money for all that no longer exists and there’s no way to pretend that it will ever come back? Answer: They won’t be able to keep borrowing and they won’t manage. These cities will depopulate and there will be battles over who gets to live in the parts that still may have some value, like riverfronts.
I guess just about everybody can now see the idiocy of concentrating the nation’s commercial life in super-gigantic organisms like Big Box stores. It seemed like a good idea at the time, like so many blunders in history, and now that time is over. Any ecology thrives on redundancy — a lot of players doing similar things at the appropriate scale — and America’s chain retail model for a commercial ecology was an obvious fiasco waiting to happen. The people who run that, and other people who run other things in our society, must be wondering whether those supply-chains from China will come back. It’s no different than the cargo cults of the Solomon Islanders circa 1947, after the military airplanes stopped landing with all their magical goodies: time to go back to fishing from the dugout canoe.
The foolish, idiotic identity politics ginned up by the Left and their racially-inflamed, sexually-disturbed scribes in the Thinking Class have successfully destroyed the last shred of an American common culture that held the country together through earlier vicissitudes. So, one concludes that we’ll be left stewing in poisonous tensions, and perhaps some violent conflicts, before those matters head toward some sort of resolution.
Where does this all lead? Eventually, to a land and a people who operate their society in a very different way at a much more modest scale. The task of reorganizing our national life is immense. (There will be plenty to do, so don’t worry about that.) You can forget about the grandiose techno-narcissistic visions of electrified motoring and a robotic nirvana of perpetual sex-crazed leisure. Everything we do has to be downscaled, from whatever manufacturing we can cobble back together to rebuilding commercial ecosystems at a finer grain from region to region — in other words, what we now call small business, geared locally.
Expect giant AgriBiz to founder on a shortage of capital, especially, and expect smaller farms to organize emergently, worked by more humans working together. That is, if we want to keep eating. Expect the small towns in the well-watered parts of the country to revive while the groaning metroplexes spiral down into entropic sclerosis. Consider the value of our vast inland waterway system and the opportunities to move goods on them, when the trucking industry unravels. Consider lending a hand at rebuilding the railroad system in this country.
There will be economic roles and social roles for all those willing to step up to some responsibility. Young people may see tremendous opportunity replacing the wounded economic dinosaurs wobbling across the landscape. It’ll be all about going local and regional and making yourself useful in exchange for a livelihood and the esteem of others around you — aka, your community. Government has been working tirelessly to make itself superfluous, if not completely ineffectual, impotent, and rather loathsome in the face of this crisis that has been slowly-but-visibly building for half a century. Something old and played-out is limping offstage, and something new is stepping on. Aren’t you glad you watched all those debates?
72 Comments on "Kunstler: Things Have Changed"
Trannies for Kunstler on Tue, 17th Mar 2020 11:28 pm
Kunstler seems to be jumping the gun a bit; I seriously doubt CORVID-19 is the trigger for a collapse. Maybe if it gets joined by a few other black swans but not as things currently stand.
REAL Green on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 4:23 am
Seeing that healthcare system bulge that represents the reason we are doing social distancing and economic and social quarantine makes me reflect on the ecological principal of degree and duration. A population’s survival to shocks is related to its abilities to manage the degree of the shock and the duration. These can very and both can be deadly. What people do not realize as much is this condition, we are trying to avoid with the healthcare system becoming dysfunctional is also present at the greater level of the economy. There will be no getting out of jail free card this time. We are here in a free fall and now it should be reflected on where we will land. Life is not going to get back to normal even though people still walk around in a feeling of normality. How far down those steps lead until a floor is reached is unknown? This is unknown because we have built in so much complexity combined with population growth, we do not know how many and how active we as a people will be at this new level. This will be a time of destructive change with economic abandonment, dysfunctional networks, and irrational behavior. That is the other bulge not discussed when our brightest minds and leadership talk about what we face. I doubt we are going to see growth for a while. We are going to see salvage and triage at many levels. At some point the ways we lived will be pointless and we will by necessity move on. The dangerous period is the turbulence of the phase change of it and the immediate aftermath of being stripped of layers of support.
My REAL Green has preached green prepping for years now. This is about resilience and sustainability in what can be pictured as lifeboats. The other is a picture of a hospice. Yes, people are going to die but this hospice is also about the death of a way of life. It could be about rebirth too but not before we pay for the consequences of getting here. I might add this was self-emergent so finger pointing is pointless. Nature does not care about excuses so it will be forced upon the innocent and guilty alike. REAL Green then seeks acceptance of a decline into a collapse in a process and or event. It is getting to the level of acceptance that allows a REAL Green to go forth in action. This then becomes a journey that is actually a retreat into activities that are a decline in place. Localism is the result but one must remember this world has been delocalized by globalism. This then is a journey to get closer to a rebirth of localism within the destructive change of globalism. There are many very good products and excellent practices learned in our wild ride up. These need to be retained but also combine with a millennium of human activity that represented low carbon capture and a more harmonious adaptation to planetary cycles.
We humans are not going to get there right away and can’t if we want to survive. Globalism is the human ecosystem now so we have to have one foot in and one foot out of globalism if that is even possible. My REAL Green has done this for years but also with funds to do it. I have always realized this and reflected on it. I used a relativity to deal with it. A REAL Green adapts as best as can be achieved according to the nature of his global ecosystem but also the potential of his local. For some no action is possible because they are completely trapped or not awakened. Currently, my REAL Green is faced with the possible end of the income stream that allowed a hybrid life. I have prep assets to fall back on. I have skills. What is lacking is community that is needed for localism to survive and prosper. What is so insidious about this virus is its attack on localism of community. We are being told to quarantine and maintain social distancing. This is not conducive to people joining together and getting on with survival locally. Now we are thrust into localism and are naked and cold. This will of course have to end eventually. People will have to make and grow things or the REAL dying will begin.
The journey now is about navigating mentally and materially through a gauntlet of forced change. This is not the constructive change that was also disruptive that was driven by ever more complexity and efficiency of our techno optimistic world. We destroyed resilience doing this and now our world is unsustainable. How unsustainable now is a matter of how far we allow what we have to degrade. REAL Green is under no allusions that localism will save us. What will save us is embracing the journey. To make the journey there must be acceptance of a death of a way of life. This does not mean transcendence but instead transformation. I recommend in this time of turmoil to yield to higher powers and decline in place with as much dignity as you can find. A degree of dignity can be found in the meaning of this process that reflects reality. This is individual so don’t expect a movment.
The truth is ultimately what mature and honest humans seek. The problem is maturity has been bred out of our populations in the pursuit of affluence by whatever means. Real maturity comes from wisdom which is about making choices. These choices now in a world of decline are about choosing what knowledge and things to keep and what to dispose of. That is the triage of it. The hybridization is the return to low carbon capture but with best thing and practices our modern life developed. This means growing things, craft skills, and home economics. Yet, on the journey it is still about making a living in a global world that is the ecosystem we live in. So, this then is a surreal journey back to the past with modern things and knowledge. It is a very difficult journey because it is about navigating the traps of life and path dependencies that took us from the old ways that were more resilient and sustainable to a modern one of great affluence albeit unsustainable. All civilizations seem to succumb to this journey so we must acknowledge human ecosystems enter succession like earth ecosystem and the reality is they are one as our disrupted nature world is expressing. The acceptance is ultimately that there might not be a destination but only a journey. Yet, this is what life is about and that is our journey to death. Life just got very REAL.
realgreenadaptation.blog
Abraham van Helsing on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 10:00 am
Common sense setting in in Britain:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8125347/Boris-Johnson-extend-Brexit-transition-period-December.html
“Boris Johnson ‘will have to extend Brexit transition period beyond December’ because of coronavirus chaos”
Exactly my thoughts.
And again the message for our British friends: if you want to “free yourself from the EU shackles”, nobody is going to stop you. WTO-“Freedom” is just around the corner, nobody is going to bomb you, nobody is going to install food blockades, no nothing. And everybody and his mother know that overnight the British empire is going to be restored, an impressive industrial landscape with coal and stream engines will be erected in no time with a stream of glorious “made in Britain” produce, the whole world will be fighting over.
Honest.
(Seriously, just give us Scotland and Northern Ireland and most of your industry and you’ll get rid of us once and for all)
JuanP on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 1:25 pm
“World must prepare for US economic depression”
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1183071.shtml
I already did! It seems quite likely that the American COVID-19 Epidemic will have profound economic and geopolitical consequences for the whole world. What a pity that the US government is so stupid, ignorant, corrupt, and arrogant that it refused to do anything in the months it had to prepare. Old Americans are going to die like flies now. I believe that Eastern Meritocratic Socialist social, economic, and political systems are better for dealing with today’s problems than Western Democratic Capitalist systems. It is quite obvious that the West is going back to being the plague infested backwaters of the world, just like it was throughout most of human history. This epidemic will accelerate the process of the West’s relative decline and collapse. I am prepared. Are you? We had decades to prepare for the ongoing West’s collapse; you have nobody but yourselves to blame if you didn’t.
Davy on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 1:46 pm
JuanP, global research is a nutter site for a nutter like you. You know nothing about economics as your post shows.
JuanP on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 4:11 pm
I wish I knew what the fuck you are talking about, lunatic, but you don’t make any sense as usual! ROFLMFAO!
JuanP on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 4:19 pm
I always have a laugh when I read your claims to know shit about anything, Exceptionalist! If you knew shit about money, you would not be living in your parents’ place in your 60s, fool. You are the most absolute economic failure here, a sad mental case that needed his family’s economic support his whole life, and still couldn’t make it.
Davy on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 4:23 pm
juanPee, tell us how this virus ain’t shit again. LMFAO at the moron. OH, tell us some mindless muzzie shit. Do you think that is creative? Funny? or is it just your mental illness running wild. How are those store shelves down in the Miami Beach hell hole you live in?
JuanP on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 4:30 pm
I wouldn’t know because I never go shopping, Exceptionalist; I pay other people to do that for me. One of the advantages of being very rich is that you don’t have to waste time shopping, cleaning, or doing any kind of work unless you want to. I do what I want when I want, and I’ve never cared for shopping, so I don’t shop. I’ll ask my PA when I see him, but he hasn’t expressed any inconveniences yet.
JuanP on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 4:32 pm
Gorgeous beach day here, by the way, as usual. I went kayaking offshore for an hour this morning. ROFLMFAO! How are the mosquitoes in hillbilly land?
The Church Lady on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 5:00 pm
Davy,
Oh dear, how many times have we chastised you about playing nice. One more outburst from you and it’s off to the Rubber Room for a cool-off period followed up with a call to the guys in white suits armed with butterfly nets like in Looney Tunes.
This is your final warning.
Dykes - Trannies Love the Kunt on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 5:08 pm
How the Kunt prays for just one of his prognostications to be even partially correct. A predictive batting average of 0.000 is beyond pathetic. It’s downright Kunty.
Abraham van Helsing on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 5:14 pm
“Gorgeous beach day here, by the way, as usual. I went kayaking offshore for an hour this morning. ROFLMFAO! How are the mosquitoes in hillbilly land?“
Don’t worry, be happy!
Greetings from Pneumonia Beach!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8119647/Shocking-images-crowds-sand-Clearwater-Beach-Florida-ignoring-coronavirus-warnings.html
“Lemming Beach: Shocking aerial footage shows a packed Florida sands on same day Donald Trump urged ALL Americans to avoid groups of more than 10 and practice self-distancing amid the coronavirus pandemic“
doug nicodemus on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 5:17 pm
who the heck is kuntler…
Davy on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 5:22 pm
I wouldn’t know because I never go shopping.
you eat shit is why juanPee.
Rick on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 5:51 pm
Life is what we make it.
Rick on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 5:56 pm
Rick is a dick
makati1 on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 6:06 pm
“… the US government is so stupid, ignorant, corrupt, and arrogant that it refused to do anything in the months it had to prepare.”
Totally agree, JuanP. Well said.
i read an article yesterday that said Trump tried to get a German company to make a vaccine that only works for Amerikans. Of course the Germans told him to go fuck himself, but his ignorance is blatant. Amerika is a ‘melting pot’ that cannot be defined with one gene. His is really a blathering idiot, like the Missouri Jackass here.
Davy on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 6:14 pm
makato, tell us again how the virus ain’t shit. We will enjoy hearing how educated you are. What a fucking moron almost as bad as your lunatic friend juanPee.
Davy on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 6:16 pm
Tell us some economic stuff too while you are at it. In times like this we need humor. Maybe comment on some military stuff and show the depth of your knowledge. LMFAO
JuanP on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 6:25 pm
More pathetic whining from the board’s foremost Delusional American Exceptionalist. Maybe your daddy and mommy will die from Coronavirus soon, Davy, and you will finally be able to afford a place of your own to live in for a while, at least until you waste your inheritance, just like you wasted your life, fool. Better late than never. If only your parents had been sterilized on time! I bet not even the twins pay any attention to you anymore, limp dick!
Trannies in Love on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 6:27 pm
Hi Abraham,
Will you come Play Misty for Me?
supremacist muzzies jerk on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 6:30 pm
You people are too much of youngsters, amateurs, and pre-schoolers to know what Play Misty for Me is. Hint: 1971.
In 1971, Abraham was sucking his thumb, wetting his paints, and singing the hula hula dance.
Davy on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 6:37 pm
juanPee, maybe you will die. This forum could only hope. Better yet, you and your dumb daddy makato could bite it together. Wow that would be cause for a forum celebration.
Rick the Prick on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 6:41 pm
You people are too much of youngsters, amateurs, and pre-schoolers to know what Play Misty for Me is. Hint: 1971.
In 1971, Abraham was sucking his thumb, wetting his paints, and singing the hula hula dance.
Trannies in Love on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 6:44 pm
Hi juan,
Will you come Play Misty for Me?
world grater supremacist muzzies lovin for the sake of supremacist muzies on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 11:33 pm
srsly you guyes
this is what we became, just let fear run our lives and justifying it as high love for muzzies and zenith of thoughts?
this is the end game of rationality isn’t it?
insteading of loving (((supremtard))) we’re told to love rationality, secular humanism, and in case of dotheads, gandhidism.
all this is filled with high english for muzzie love, it’s nauseating. just pay attention and when “thunderf00t” is self quaranteen we know we’re played
all the pension and retirement accounts are drained.
ask ur self cui bono
there’s only fear and muzzie love now. just like janis joplin said freedom is just anohter word for having nothing left to lose.
well, that’s not exactly what freedom whitey supertard founders imagined now is it?
nobody even bother to piss in the mouth of whitey supertard president paul when he said “all this could be a massive scam”
seriously whitey supertard president paul? you know who i trust as a fmr-paultard, yes that’s right i trust whitey supertard president paul.
he’s hari sheldon equivalence of asimov’s
i wonder if such people can be trusted with luke but i dont’ see a better soluiton. i wonder what happend to little big broter joe supertard, i think his muzzie love may have increaed.
muzzie al asqua said conqer america. this happens every other day and perhaps every hour but nobobyd there to film it.
and some dothead supetard on jihadwatch disprove the mystic of moderate muzzies
that’s why i said amputate all muzzies. even caliph erdogan said there’s no extremist muzzies, only muzzies.
complaint to those, not a tard who carry the message of amputaton of all mzzis
Abraham van Helsing on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 1:16 am
We need to throw the jews in the ovens now, before the economy is fucked and we dont have the resources!
Tim on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 9:05 am
I am always stunned by the proportion of comments consisting of obscenity and personal abuse to be found on some web sites. My prejudice is that most of the cuplrits are Americans – is that justified?
Truth Buster on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 9:15 am
My prejudice is you are juanPee the a South American lunatic liar
world grater supremacist muzzies lovin on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 10:22 am
Tim on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 9:05 am
I am always stunned by the proportion of comments consisting of obscenity and personal abuse to be found on some web sites. My prejudice is that most of the cuplrits are Americans – is that justified?
translation:
I’m not stunned by supremacist muzzies calling for conquering america.
muzzie from illinoise says conquer america
muzzie al asqa mosque say conqer america
it happens dayly if not hourly.
i ratehr kill the mesager – that is me – who calls for amputation of all supremacist muzzies.
i also not stunned by calpiph erdogan saying muzzies are muzzies, or meaning all muzzies are supremacist muzzies bending on bheading infidels
and muzzies beheaded whiteys and all infidels. whitey supertards david haines james foley, etc
these are not supremacist muzzies they’re your ordinary muzzies.
i appoint tim, a supertard sock, a supertard. his title is “the lover” (of muzzies)
supertard now has 4 socks, Richard Guunette, Tim, and church lady and fathertard sullivan. two socks are supertards and 2 are not.
I will be appoint them all supertards
Davy on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 11:14 am
“I am always stunned by the proportion of comments consisting of obscenity and personal abuse to be found on some web sites. My prejudice is that most of the cuplrits are Americans – is that justified?”
We gots to uphold our world wide reputation as ugly Americans Timmy. That’s REAL important to us.
JuanP on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 11:21 am
“I am always stunned by the proportion of comments consisting of obscenity and personal abuse to be found on some web sites. My prejudice is that most of the cuplrits are Americans – is that justified?”
We gots to uphold our world wide reputation as ugly South Americans Timmy. That’s REAL important of me.
JuanP on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 11:31 am
Tim, I agree that most of those comments are posted by Americans because they have a very abusive, criminal, violent, and aggressive culture. But not all, I am Uruguayan, and I do it, too. I didn’t always do it, though. I used to post good comments, but the delusional American exceptionalism wore me out and I have been fighting fire with fire here for a long time. I will continue abusing and insulting Americans on this forum for as long as Americans keep doing it. They started this and they can end it. It was Davy that ruined this forum over 5 years ago. Many of us here wish he would die.
JuanP on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 11:38 am
Tim, I agree that most of those comments are posted by me because I am a very abusive, criminal, violent, and aggressive lunatic. But not all, I am Brazilian, and I do it, too. I didn’t always do it, though. I used to post good comments, but I have freaked out and I have been fighting fire with fire here for a long time. I will continue abusing and insulting Americans on this forum for as long as Americans are here. I started this and they can end it. It was me that ruined this forum over 5 years ago. Many wish he I would die and being confined to Miami Beach it may happen
REAL Green on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 12:06 pm
We hate purdy much everyone Timmy. But most of all we hate dumbass anti-American Americans like juanPee and makato. And MOB. And Idaho. And all the rest of y’all. Y’all trigger us REAL Bad like.
JuanP on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 12:41 pm
I hate purdy much everyone Timmy. But most of all we hate dumbass anti-American Americans And MOB. And Idaho. And all the rest of y’all. Y’all trigger me REAL Bad like. BTW. I am crazy
JuanP on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 12:44 pm
Global Pandemic Could Have Been Avoided If China Had Acted Sooner, Study Finds
A scientific study has found that had China acted sooner to combat the spread of their coronavirus, then the spread could have been almost entirely avoided, and it would not have become a global pandemic.
JuanP on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 12:46 pm
Mia amigos, if you haven’t noticed I said for months this virus was a joke. Could it be I am the joke!
The Board on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 12:55 pm
Global Spam Pandemic Could Have Been Avoided If davy Acted like an adult, Study Finds
A scientific study has found that had PO.com acted sooner to combat the spread of davy cut and spaming, then the spread of his online jizz could have been almost entirely avoided, and it would not have become a global pandemic of goatshit.
Davy on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 2:02 pm
China got the ciavirus under control juanPee. By lockin down a billion people. That’s not gonna happen here in the US. Too many folk got too many guns an such.
Hundreds of millions of Americans are gonna die!!!
Your lucky you can go to Uraguay juanPee. Italys a REAL bad idea.
The Board on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 2:05 pm
Global Spam Pandemic Could Have Been Avoided If JuanP Acted On his Suicidal Impulses Study Finds
A scientific study has found that had PO.com acted sooner to combat the spread of juanPee muzzie crap then the spread of his online jizz could have been almost entirely avoided, and it would not have become a global pandemic of juanPee mental contagions.
The Board on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 2:08 pm
China does not have the ciavirus under control. By it lockin down a billion people sooner That’s not gonna happen here in the US.
Hundreds of millions of Americans are gonna die!!! Including me. Your unlucky because you can’t go to Uraguay anymore.
JuanP on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 2:23 pm
“Asleep at the wheel: Why didn’t Western politicians act quicker on COVID-19 spread?”
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/483510-western-politicians-act-covid-spread/
Davy on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 2:35 pm
“What China’s coronavirus response can teach the rest of the world”
https://tinyurl.com/sdf6p7x Nature dot com
“In mid-January, Chinese authorities introduced unprecedented measures to contain the virus, stopping movement in and out of Wuhan, the centre of the epidemic, and 15 other cities in Hubei province. Flights and trains were suspended, and roads were blocked. Soon after, people in many Chinese cities were told to stay home and venture out only to get food or medical help.”
““These extreme limitations on population movement have been quite successful,” says Michael Osterholm, an infectious-disease scientist at the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis.”
“The World Health Organization congratulated China on a “unique and unprecedented public health response [that] reversed the escalating cases”.”
JuanP on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 3:04 pm
What China’s coronavirus response can teach the rest of the world
https://tinyurl.com/sdf6p7x Nature dot com
“In mid-January, Chinese authorities introduced unprecedented measures to contain the virus, stopping movement in and out of Wuhan, the centre of the epidemic, and 15 other cities in Hubei province. Flights and trains were suspended, and roads were blocked. Soon after, people in many Chinese cities were told to stay home and venture out only to get food or medical help.”
““These extreme limitations on population movement have been quite successful,” says Michael Osterholm, an infectious-disease scientist at the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis.”
“The World Health Organization congratulated China on a “unique and unprecedented public health response [that] reversed the escalating cases”.”
JuanP on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 3:13 pm
“Asleep at the wheel: Why didn’t Chinese politicians act quicker on COVID-19 spread?”
https://www.tt.com/op-ed/483510-china-politicians-act-covid-spread/
REAL Green on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 3:44 pm
“What China’s coronavirus response can teach the rest of the world”
https://tinyurl.com/sdf6p7x Nature dot com
“In mid-January, Chinese authorities introduced unprecedented measures to contain the virus, stopping movement in and out of Wuhan, the centre of the epidemic, and 15 other cities in Hubei province. Flights and trains were suspended, and roads were blocked. Soon after, people in many Chinese cities were told to stay home and venture out only to get food or medical help.”
““These extreme limitations on population movement have been quite successful,” says Michael Osterholm, an infectious-disease scientist at the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis.”
“The World Health Organization congratulated China on a “unique and unprecedented public health response [that] reversed the escalating cases”.”
JuanP on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 3:58 pm
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/483510-western-politicians-act-covid-spread/
JuanP on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 4:21 pm
What China’s coronavirus response can teach the rest of the world about how sloppy the Chinese are
https://tinyurl.com/sdfucked Nature bats last dot com