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Is this the end of the oil era?

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Is the concept of “peak oil” dead? Maybe, but not for long. What is happening now already occurred 25 years ago. We are living through a zombie oil market, a return of the oil era circa 1995, the last time demand was only 70 million barrels per day (bpd). Until this pandemic-induced crash, we were witnessing an energy transition from conventional oil to non-conventional fossil fuels such as bitumen and “shale oil”. Non-conventional firms are among the worst hit by “Black April” when the price of oil futures collapsed to unheard of, negative prices. Yet, unless the Covid-19 depression is followed by a rigorous transition to renewable energy, peak oil will return for a second time alongside its handmaiden, the non-conventional oil industry.

Much of the confusion over “peak oil” stems from the mistaken belief that the concept refers to scarcity. Rather, peak oil is the moment when conventional oil production can no longer be increased, regardless of price. There remain plenty of hydrocarbons, but the world oil market has changed over the past two decades as non-conventionals’ share has grown. “Conventional” oil conjures the 20th-century vision of free-flowing gushers and pump-jacks. Non-conventionals take novel hybrid industrial forms: bitumen strip-mines, “steam-assisted gravity drainage’’, and kilometre-long horizontal drilling to inject cocktails of water, sand, and unsavoury chemicals (ie hydraulic fracturing). Non-conventional technologies have opened up vast new reserves in areas far removed from the industry’s Middle Eastern heartland, but they are dirty, expensive and, as the recent crash shows, unstable. At the moment it is unclear whether the advance of non-conventionals has been merely temporarily halted or if there is a possibility they could be transcended by a renewable energy system.

The concept of “peak oil” originates with the work of Marion King Hubbert, a Shell geologist who 64 years ago predicted the climaxes of US and global conventional oil production. He noticed that fossil-fuel production tended to follow a pattern of exponential growth, peak and decline. “These curves,” he claimed, “embody just about all that is essential in our knowledge of the production of energy.” If the extent of a reserve could be estimated along with the rate of production, then it would be possible to know when the peak would occur. He argued that peak oil would occur in the US in 1970 – much earlier than his peers expected – with global production following in 2000. His first prediction was correct to the year, and there is good reason to think that the second forecast was only slightly off.

In 2016 David King, an emeritus professor in chemistry at Cambridge University and former chief scientific adviser to the government, and his assistant Oliver Inderwildi observed that the oil market’s behaviour up to 2005 “was attributed to normal elastic supply-demand factors, but crude oil then plateaued, with the rapid price rise clearly attributable to demand exceeding conventional supply capacity, with marginal supplies being met from unconventional sources”. This is what peak oil looks like.

Long before it had to engage in “greenwashing” to talk up its environmental credentials, capitalism ran on renewable energy. The first factory, Richard Arkwright’s cotton-spinning mill in the Derbyshire Dales, depended on the River Derwent for its power, and his imitators also exploited the cheap hydrology of the British countryside. Yet, investments in isolated valleys proved vulnerable to Luddite rage. In the late 19th century, working-class movements learned how to wrest control of the coal-based system by shutting down the railways from mines to cities. Petroleum systems, which moved by pipeline and tanker, needed fewer workers, thus creating an energy regime conducive to capital. Middle Eastern oil workers had trouble constricting the energy system, leading to democracy’s stillbirth in the region. In the Global North too, oil was essential for crushing working-class power. This was perhaps most manifest during the 1984-85 miners’ strike when dual oil-coal power plants proved crucial to keeping Britain’s lights on.

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The shift to non-conventional oil was unusual because it was not spurred by labour unrest, but by the inability of the previous energy system to keep up with demand. The first tar sands mine opened in 1967, but non-conventional production only took off as Hubbert’s peak approached at the turn of the millennium. Total non-conventional production rose from 8 per cent of global output in 2000 to 19 per cent in 2019 – approximately 19 million bpd. Much of this was produced in North America, with US frackers pumping 9 million bpd and the Canadian tar sands industry 3 million bpd.

Just as we look back to the pastoral capitalism of the 18th century, we may come to see conventionals as relatively “green” compared to the destruction engendered by fracking and tar sands extraction. Non-conventionals produce more greenhouse gases, and their chemical properties aggravate spills. In a region as dry as Texas’ Permian Basin, nearly 20 Olympic-size swimming pools of water are used per well – and nearly 5,000 wells are drilled every year. Water used during non-conventional production is so polluted that it has to be removed from the hydrosphere. The First Nations in Alberta, home to Canada’s tar sands industry, have reported that rare cancers have increased in their communities, though the government and medical establishment deny there is a problem. Cleaning up the tar sands industry’s tailings ponds alone would cost C$130bn, but firms have paid only C$1.6bn into the provincial remediation fund. Given that the non-conventional industry often struggles to make a profit, it will never reconcile “the economy” with “the environment’.

Non-conventionals have features drawn from previous energy regimes. Like the rivers exploited by 18th-century textile mills, non-conventionals tend to be in remote locations. This isolation allows workers to extract significant concessions in their pay and other compensation, increasing pressure for automated production. Notably, non-conventionals require vast quantities of fresh water, which means that low water flows can threaten production. They also rely on rail and pipeline to get their product to market: the industry’s dependence on long-distance overland transport has been a vulnerability exploited by indigenous and environmentalist protesters, as opposition to the Keystone XL pipeline from Alberta into the US and the Dakota Access pipelines from Dakota to Illinois proved. Non-conventionals need fuel in order to extract fuel, which lowers their energy return on investment (EROI). The EROI for the tar sands industry is a miserable 4:1, far lower than the 100:1 achieved by mid-century US conventional oil producers. These traits add up to an expensive, environmentally destructive and volatile energy system.

The unusual hybridity of the non-conventional industry helps to explain why it has been harder hit by the crash compared to conventionals. Much of the news has focused on how the price for May’s oil futures collapsed into negative numbers for the first time ever, but this was a North American phenomenon. The world’s oil price, the “Brent” index set by North Sea producers, remained on the right side of zero, hovering near $20 a barrel. This is not the first time Brent and West Texas Intermediate (WTI) – the US standard measure – diverged, as when WTI traded at a discount to Brent during 2011-13.

The tar sands and fracking industries are strewn across a broad hinterland, just as 18th-century textile mills were, meaning that they have trouble reaching the world market. Onland storage, centred on the Oklahoma town of Cushing, is limited and the price of WTI collapsed when it became obvious that there was insufficient space to store the glut. By contrast, Brent’s price reflects the stability of the conventional oil system; production tends to be near ports, where the world’s tanker fleets can become impromptu vaults.

While WTI’s collapse shows the weakness of the non-conventional system, Brent’s price better reflects the state of the global oil market. The pandemic caused demand to shrink by 29 million bpd, returning us to the conventional era of the 1990s. The market’s hunch that $20 a barrel suffices to produce 70 million bpd seems plausible. The lowest-cost producers, such as Saudi Arabia, need only $13 a barrel, and the North Sea producers $15 a barrel, but ultra-deep-sea (another non-conventional form) requires $30 a barrel. Even exceptionally cheap new non-conventional production in the Permian Basin needs prices in the mid-$30s to break even, while the rate for tar sands is the mid-$40s.

The price curve for the next marginal barrel of oil is steep between conventionals and non-conventionals, which means prices jump swiftly to several times the historical average when the economy is doing well, but collapse when there is an economic crisis, as there was in 2008, 2014, and now again in 2020. Thus, the $20 a barrel cut-off seems to lie near the conventional/non-conventional divide. With the Opec+ group of producers agreeing to reduce production by only 10 million bpd, consistent low prices will cull producers until supply is rebalanced at around 70 million bpd. Although analysts predict 90 million bpd demand to return by the year’s end, that seems optimistic given the depth of the Covid-19 depression.

Last year the US Department of Energy praised the fracking industry for producing “molecules of freedom”, but what form does this freedom take? A volatile, ramshackle industry that leaves devastation in its wake? Where the price has collapsed three times in the last dozen years? The compact that society has made with non-conventional capital – we give them the Earth, and they give us abundance – has not fared well. The current depression makes clear that non-conventionals give us neither abundance nor security nor freedom. Yet, instead of reversing the non-conventional transition, the US and Canadian governments have favoured costly bailouts for non-conventionals. Instead, they should have left non-conventional firms to wither, with the state first in line to collect assets to pay off the industry’s gargantuan environmental liabilities.

With the demise of the non-conventional system we can begin to imagine the end of the fossil fuel ancien régime. For the foreseeable future demand for oil will remain low, giving time to vastly expand renewable energy systems. The accompanying fiscal stimulus will help revive a moribund economy and ensure that there will be enough green energy once demand picks up. First the non-conventional transition will be suspended, and then the conventional one too. However, it seems unlikely that capitalism can return to its renewable roots. Rather, a rupture will be necessary. The future post-carbon society perhaps cannot promise endless abundance, but it could offer a freedom that will never be found in the Permian Basin or tar sands.

Troy Vettese is an environmental historian at Harvard University and a contributor to New Left Review, Jacobin and n+1

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95 Comments on "Is this the end of the oil era?"

  1. makati1 on Sat, 25th Apr 2020 6:06 pm 

    Duncan, everyone is smarter than the trumpet. It is possible that trumpet is also suffering from early dementia as he cannot seem to keep his lies straight. God! How low Amerika has fallen!

  2. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 25th Apr 2020 6:57 pm 

    Art Berman: World crude oil and condensate production peaked in October 2018. It is unlikely to reach that level again.

    https://twitter.com/aeberman12/status/1254156286301818880

    Maybe the plan is to just crash the economy post peak. Lower oil demand. Rebuild and crash again. Rinse and repeat. Like a new normal!

  3. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 25th Apr 2020 7:01 pm 

    You know when the Russian famine hit. Many of their police officers were arrested for snatching up children and eating them.

  4. whoa on Sat, 25th Apr 2020 7:58 pm 

    Maybe the plan is to just crash the economy post peak. Lower oil demand. Rebuild and crash again. Rinse and repeat. Like a new normal!

    the amazing amound of bordy contortion people go through just to avoid the A word for all muzzies starting with muzzie imams

  5. Davy on Sat, 25th Apr 2020 8:39 pm 

    “The Dutch corporate umbrella organisation FME, on request of the Dutch government, has just issued a report with a very detailed blueprint for the coming hydrogen economy in the Netherlands (in Dutch):”

    What a joke. You don’t even have a renewable economy yet. You euro techno optimist are desperate for fantasy. You need it considering where your economy is going. Pretty soon you will be admiring the pre-pandemic Slovenian standard of living

  6. Davy on Sat, 25th Apr 2020 8:42 pm 

    “It is possible that trumpet is also suffering from early dementia as he cannot seem to keep his lies straight.”

    Something you two almost octogenarians can relate to.

  7. whoa on Sat, 25th Apr 2020 10:05 pm 

    with navy’s newest low radar signature destroyer wonder how hypersonics will get to it
    probably very difficult since flying hypersonic means targeting ability is limited

  8. REJOICE DavyScum on Sat, 25th Apr 2020 10:51 pm 

    I feel scummy
    Oh, so scummy
    I feel scummy, and ugly and gay
    And I pity
    Any troll who isn’t me today

    I feel scummy
    Oh, so scummy
    It’s alarming how scummy I feel
    And so scummy
    That I hardly can believe I’m real

    See the scummy troll in that mirror there:
    Who can that scummy troll be?
    Such a lying face
    Such an ugly dress
    Such a hypocritical smile
    Such a scummy me!

  9. makati1 on Sat, 25th Apr 2020 11:19 pm 

    Davy, I understand that you suffer from the same illness. Age is not determinate of disease.

    “Dementia is more common in people over the age of 65, but it can also affect younger people. Early onset of the disease can begin when people are in their 30s, 40s, or 50s.” (Google)

    You have exhibited all the signs of the disease here for at least the last 5-6 years. Oops!

  10. Cloggie on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 1:21 am 

    “What a joke. You don’t even have a renewable economy yet.”

    It may come as a surprise to you, but every time you intend to build something, you draw up a plan first, regardless if that something is a machine, a house, a new municipality, anything. And next you implement that plan.

    “You euro techno optimist are desperate for fantasy.”

    I’m sorry, but modern science and engineering is of European origin. We know what we are doing. There is absolutely nothing “desperate” or “optimist” or “fantasy” about a hydrogen economy,m just realistic. You seriously thought that Britain would have been country #1 in the 19th century if they would have approached coal and steam in the same way you do with renewable energy? You (James Watt) invent something in your shed, next you talk to financiers and business-people, next you scale up your steam engine, you mount it on a rail wagon, you install it in a factory, a ship, and thus, decade after decade, you build your industrial society, heck your empire.

    Won’t be one iota different with hydrogen and renewable electricity. We’ve given ourselves time until 2050; it doesn’t really matter if Europe achieves 90% reduction of CO2 by 2040 or 2060, but eventually we’ll get there.

    “You need it considering where your economy is going.”

    That is precisely what we are doing: renewable energy and hydrogen and/or derivatives as storage.

    “Pretty soon you will be admiring the pre-pandemic Slovenian standard of living”

    You copied that from me. From an American source I was told that if the US $ would lose reserve currency status, it’s GDP would go down South with 35-40%.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

    US 67k

    minus 40% –> 40k

    40k that is Slovenia, a prosperous Balkan country. They are doing fine btw:

    https://tinyurl.com/yauhcvdc

    It’s just that they don’t have nukes and carriers. Good for them.

  11. whoa ANSEL REAPER on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 7:42 am 

    superts
    pls love supertard
    we love supremacists muzzies, we can at least love supertard

  12. Abraham van Helsing on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 9:16 am 

    Global flying is, errr, crashing:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8258279/Richard-Branson-race-buyer-Virgin-Atlantic.html

    “Richard Branson ‘in race to find buyer’ for Virgin Atlantic after offering his £80m private paradise Necker Island as collateral in plea for £500m government bailout”

    Boeing-takeover Embraer cancelled:

    https://www.ft.com/content/3b371ba0-aea0-4ad8-9b4e-ae0c6f4668fa

    “Embraer says Boeing used false claims to ditch $4bn tie-up”

    https://simpleflying.com/gecas-max-orders-cancelled/

    “GECAS Cancels 69 Boeing 737 MAX Orders”

  13. Abraham van Helsing on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 9:27 am 

    This guy gets it:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/independentpremium/politics-explained/brexit-no-deal-eu-single-market-boris-johnson-barnier-a9483751.html

    “Are we failing to notice that we are heading for no-deal Brexit?”

    The Brits are out of Europe and the Europeans are moving out of the Anglo-led West, towards Eurasia, where all the action is:

    https://parisberlinmoscow.wordpress.com/2020/04/21/france-keeps-pushing-reset-eu-russian-relations/

    “France Keeps Pushing Reset EU-Russian Relation”

    https://parisberlinmoscow.wordpress.com/2020/04/21/dutch-1-foreign-policy-think-tank-supports-pbm/

    “Dutch #1 Foreign Policy Think-Tank Supports Paris-Berlin-Moscow”

    https://parisberlinmoscow.wordpress.com/2020/04/23/russian-eu-ambassador-offers-europe-unlimited-cooperation/

    “Russian EU Ambassador Offers Europe “Unlimited Cooperation””

    https://parisberlinmoscow.wordpress.com/2020/04/23/putin-confirms-ambition-paris-berlin-moscow-alliance-2/

    “Putin Confirms Ambition Paris-Berlin-Moscow Alliance”

    Brexit, Trump, corona, Putin, rise of China, the US “white lash”, are all ingredients that point to that result.

  14. REAL Green on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 9:49 am 

    Check it out y’all.

    We just got moderated again in the members only section!

    LOL!

  15. Davy on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 9:57 am 

    We prefer to think of it as being neutered REAL Green

  16. Davy on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 10:54 am 

    juanPee ID theft turn back on juanPee. LMFAO

    juanPee taking davy’s ID:
    “Check it out y’all. We just got moderated again in the members only section! LOL!”

    juanPee pretending to be REAL Green:
    “We prefer to think of it as being neutered REAL Green”

    JuanPee, show me the moderation? The moderation that actually happened was when your comment that clearly was in violation of the moderators rules was scrubbed:

    Re: Coronavirus biowar US-China prelude war Pt. 4
    by REAL Green » Sat 25 Apr 2020, 19:40:21

    JuanP wrote:I have never considered myself stable or a genius, diemos. I am just extremely different from 99.99% of other human animals like you, that’s all. There is only one person here that I dislike and is on my ignore list, that is REAL Green, AKA Davy. I think Davy is both smart and knowledgeable, but I no longer read his stuff because I already did for more than five years and he repeats himself a lot, so he doesn’t interest me any more…I never expected any of you to like me, and I never will…sometimes need to vent off. I do it myself, too, sometimes!

    REAL Green said:
    Don’t flatter yourself juan. You think you are different and that is how in your twisted mind you can behave like you do. You are nothing new or special. You think you are a superstar and then wonder why people think so low of you and then you start with the “I never expected any of you to like me” bull crap. Most intelligent people are not here to be liked or like others they are looking for knowledge. Sure, some of that liking comes across when we find commonality but with you it is a game of needing to be liked and saying you don’t care if you are not liked. The reality is you are so egotistical and selfish nobody can like you. I find nothing you say worth my time. Most of what you say is biased and binary. You comment for appearance not to contribute. So, I am very happy on this side of the forum you ignore me which you don’t like the referenced comment attest to. What a joke!

    See JuanPee, you got scrubbed.

  17. Duncan Idaho on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 11:17 am 

    Watch Out for Trump’s Freddy Krueger on Steroids-
    (just a warning to our challenged repug friends.)

  18. Duncan Idaho on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 11:52 am 

    1937 — Spain: Guernica is destroyed by German bombing. The German Nazis are bombing over Basque towns during this period & today German Condor Legion destroys the town.
    This aerial massacre of civilians occurred during the Spanish Revolution, while the US & England refused all pleas by the Republican government for help against Franco’s fascist forces — instead imposing an embargo upon Spain. There are over 2,500 civilian casualties.

  19. Duncan Idaho on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 11:54 am 

    1986 — Ukraine, USSR: Chernobyl nuclear disaster occurs.
    Worst known nuclear disaster in history.

  20. Davy on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 11:55 am 

    Oops, sorry y’all. I see juanPee put my dumbass on his ignore list. That means he can’t see any of my comments.

    stupid me

  21. Anonymouse on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 12:20 pm 

    Actually, what really happened there dumbass, was you created a fake account, called it ‘JuanP’, and then trolled the place in hoping to get the REAL JuanP, banned. Why do you pull stupid, infantile, dumbass shit like all day long?

    Because you a mentally deranged loser. A lunatic with no life, money, or future thats why. All you have to look forward to, every day, is being a a-hole here to anyone that does not subscribe to your exceptionalturd goatshit.

    Hope that clears up your deluded take on the situation, again.

    Dumbass

  22. whoa on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 12:24 pm 

    Anonymouse on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 12:20 pm
    supertard
    if u love supremacist muzzies
    maybe u could love supertard?
    ktnx

    UK Health Secretary thanks Muslims for “sacrifice” on St. George’s Day, makes no mention of the English national day

  23. JuanP on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 12:26 pm 

    Oops, sorry y’all. I see I put him on his ignore list the didn’t ignore him. That means I can’t see any of his comments but I still stalk and attack him her and there. silly me stupid me

  24. Anonymouse on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 12:28 pm 

    Actually, what really happened there dumbass, JuanP, was you created a fake account, called it ‘JuanP’, and then trolled the place in hoping to get the REAL JuanP, banned. Why do you pull stupid, infantile, dumbass shit like all day long?

    Because you a mentally deranged loser. A lunatic with no life, money, or future thats why. All you have to look forward to, every day, is being a a-hole here to anyone that does not subscribe to your stupid lunatic ways of ID theft and socks.

    Hope that clears up your deluded take on the situation, again.

    Dumbass

  25. DT on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 12:31 pm 

    I agree anonymouse, juanPee is playing games here and there. It is astute of you to see this finally and call him out as a dumbass.

  26. REAL Green on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 12:38 pm 

    We need to see the docter Davy.

    REAL Bad like

  27. whoa on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 12:44 pm 

    supertard
    is it trooth when u cornered u bring out pink poodle?

    u have aces under ur sleeves

  28. JuanP on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 12:46 pm 

    “China boosts oil imports from Russia, while slashing supplies from Saudi Arabia”
    https://www.rt.com/business/486917-chin … l-imports/

    The Chinese purchased 30% more oil from Russia in March than they did on the same north last year, while reducing imports from KSA by 1.7%.

  29. DT on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 12:47 pm 

    Ignore this bitch! LOL

    Get back to me with this month and next month’s figures then we will kick the subject around as significant. Meanwhile, in the real world, the global oil market has been turned upside down in April.

  30. Anonymouse on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 12:48 pm 

    so true DT so true. REAL Green clobbered juanPee on the moderated side.

  31. JuanP on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 12:49 pm 

    Anon, you hurt my widdle feelings

  32. Anonymouse on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 1:22 pm 

    Like I said, you’re a mentally disturbed loner who needs to be in a nuthouse, force-fed a steady cocktail of anti-psychotic drugs.

    I didnt mention the socking, stalking and pricking the intelligent posters davy dumbass does constantly, but only because I feel at this point, mentioning those when referring to you is redundant, but, thanks for proving us right again about you.

    Dumbass.

  33. whoa on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 1:34 pm 

    supertard anon
    pls respect supertard suth americano uknowhwat
    it’s the pink poodle
    pink poodle supreme
    foar the love of supremacist muzzies bag day feb12021

  34. whoa on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 1:57 pm 

    supertards
    please love supertards if u love supremacist muzzies

    or is it the other way around? im not sure i lost my mind. i most my mind bcos of things like dis

    us navey is good at burry supremacist muzzies as muzzies, but it’s not a muzzie

    see, this what caause me to los my mind

    mind blown

  35. whoa on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 2:35 pm 

    “Health Secretary Matt Hancock thanked Muslims for their Ramadan ‘sacrifice’ on St George’s Day, but made no mention of the English national day itself.”

    Stories depict him as a Roman soldier who slew a dragon while rescuing a Libyan king’s daughter. He was however tortured and ultimately killed in….. the most severe purge of Christians in the Roman Empire — when he refused to renounce his faith.

    there must be something very tasty about muzzie ck. i have asked many x here for a recipe but supertards are selfish. still waiting for muzzie ck recipe

  36. SocialRevolutionComing on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 3:00 pm 

    I thought at first it COVID was an hoax to prepare for peakoil. I am not sure anymore. It seems that a lot of leader in the states don’t believe in COVID and are rushing to open their states.

    Plus there are barely any news from South America, India, Middles-east. All this COVID stuff seems to mainly affect Whites Western nations. I think the Whites Western nations overeating to this. Because Whites Western nations are managed by idiots and low IQ Whites people, we are seeing what happen when stupid people are put in positions of power: they destroy everything.

    It is really over for the Whites Western nations. Nothing will be rebuilt because the Whites populations is mainly made of stupid low IQ people.

    During the collapse/great depression/ peakoil, I think Asian, Africa and South America nations will do way better.

    I am so happy that I am old and without kids. Who wants to have kids in this clown world

  37. whoa on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 3:06 pm 

    SocialRevolutionComing on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 3:00 pm
    everyone please love supertard and supertard’s sock SocialRevolutionComing

    i don’t want to reapeat myself but here again
    if u can love supremacist muzzies then u can love supertard

    it’s that easy

    https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pow/Ramadan-Bombathon-2020.jpg?11715

  38. Anonymouse on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 3:23 pm 

    thought at first it COVID was an hoax to prepare for peakoil. I am not sure anymore. It seems that a lot of leader in the states don’t believe in COVID and are rushing to open their states.

    Plus there are barely any news from South America, India, Middles-east. All this COVID stuff seems to mainly affect Whites Western nations. I think the Whites Western nations overeating to this. Because Whites Western nations are managed by idiots and low IQ Whites people, we are seeing what happen when stupid people are put in positions of power: they destroy everything.

    It is really over for the Whites Western nations. Nothing will be rebuilt because the Whites populations is mainly made of stupid low IQ people.

    During the collapse/great depression/ peakoil, I think Asian, Africa and South America nations will do way better.

    I am so happy that I am old and without kids. Who wants to have kids in this clown world

  39. Rick on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 4:35 pm 

    After we are gone, Nature will return the Earth to its natural form.

  40. makati1 on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 5:20 pm 

    “During the collapse/great depression/ peakoil, I think Asian, Africa and South America nations will do way better.”

    AMEN!

  41. Davy on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 5:47 pm 

    So true makato. So true.

  42. whoa is it a spark plug you talking about what is it about what do you use it for sir B U T T P L U G G AA but t plug thank you on Sun, 26th Apr 2020 8:14 pm 

    I am so happy that I am old and without kids. Who wants to have kids in this clown world

    supertard, you don’t score?
    i don’t score either

    if only you could love suprtard the way you love supremacist muzies then the world will heal itself 100%

  43. Abraham van Helsing on Mon, 27th Apr 2020 1:05 am 

    1937 — Spain: Guernica is destroyed by German bombing. The German Nazis are bombing over Basque towns during this period & today German Condor Legion destroys the town.
    This aerial massacre of civilians occurred during the Spanish Revolution, while the US & England refused all pleas by the Republican government for help against Franco’s fascist forces — instead imposing an embargo upon Spain. There are over 2,500 civilian casualties.

    Big deal. The Germans were helping the Spanish nationalists, Stalin and his Anglo buddies were helping the communists. In a war people get killed. The Condor Legion was entirely commanded by the Spanish. The figure of 2500 civilian deaths is propaganda, a more realistic post-war figure is 300-800.

    So, thanks again Duncan, for your suggestive history flashes. I am sure you are now going to elaborate on the US bombing of SE-Asia, which killed millions. No?

    Talking about history:

    https://www.unz.com/proberts/churchills-war-the-real-history-of-world-war-ii/

    Stalin must have despaired of the fighting capability of his British and American allies. All the British could do was to sic an entire fleet on a single German warship and bomb French and German civilians. In North Africa the British failed to push out the outnumbered Germans and called in the Americans. Eisenhower was far from a good field commander. After Rommel smashed through the Kasserine Pass, delivering to the American army “one of the most resounding defeats ever inflicted on the Americans in war,” Rommel reported to Berlin that despite being outnumbered and without supplies, he could again take the offensive. He attributed success in part to “the low fighting value of the enemy.” Eisenhower’s aide Harry Butcher recorded, “We sent out some 120 tanks and 112 didn’t come back.” Churchill shared Rommel’s dismissal of the American fighting man. “After Kasserine Churchill made little attempt to conceal his contempt for the American forces and their fighting value.”

    The Germans, of course, were vastly overextended. In addition to a 1,000 mile Russian front and being bombed at night by the cowardly British who attacked unprotected civilian residential areas, Hitler had to occupy Europe and to rescue his Italian ally by sending troops to Greece and North Africa. The Germans might have had the will, but they did not have the resources to fight most of the world in a war of attrition.

    People like duncan, empire dave, derhund, siss, joe esquire and the rest of the assorted lefties are the worst disaster in the history of the white race. Thanks to superior numbers and despite inferior fighting quality and little character, these idiots brought the white world into the hands of (((those))) who intended to destroy that white world, until today.

    But now it is all over. Thanks to Trump and Brexit, the West is split in two. The Chinese and Russians are pandering for improved relations with Europe, The New Silk Road is anti-Anglo, The French are pandering to the Russians and Chinese and so do the Italians. Even the Anglo-friendly Dutch have drawn conclusions from Brexit and advise to team up with Russia. And all of a sudden the potential arises for… perhaps not a Eurasian alliance, but nevertheless at least a quiet understanding that the Anglos can be toppled.

  44. Abraham van Helsing on Mon, 27th Apr 2020 1:22 am 

    Pictures of floating oil storage near the coast of California, indicating massive oversupply:

    https://cleantechnica.com/2020/04/26/oil-tankers-lurk-off-the-coast-of-california/

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