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The widely held view that food production needs to double by 2050 to feed a growing world population may be inaccurate.
In a study published in the journal Bioscience, researchers from Penn State’s agriculture college have challenged that view, saying the required increase may be as high as 70 per cent — or as low as 25 per cent.
Mitch Hunter, a doctoral student in agronomy, says the analysis shows that production needs to keep increasing, but not as fast as many have claimed. That’s important because it means there can be more opportunity to protect the environment, he says.
“In the coming decades, agriculture will be called upon to both feed people and ensure a healthy environment,” said Hunter. “Right now, the narrative in agriculture is really out of balance, with compelling goals for food production but no clear sense of the progress we need to make on the environment.”
A review of recent trends in agriculture’s environmental impacts shows that they are increasing and must drop dramatically to maintain clean water and stabilize the climate, according to the researchers.
More clearly defining targets, the researchers say, will clarify the scope of the challenges that agriculture must face in the coming decades, focusing research and policy.
“Food production and environmental protection must be treated as equal parts of agriculture’s grand challenge,” says study co-author David Mortensen, professor of weed and applied plant ecology, Penn State.
These new findings have important implications for farmers. Lower demand projections may suggest that prices will not rise as much as expected in coming decades.
59 Comments on "Food demand predictions could be inaccurate"
penury on Tue, 7th Mar 2017 9:51 am
Who would have gue3ssed? A prediction which may be wrong. Wake me when we get one that may be correct.
Go Speed Racer on Tue, 7th Mar 2017 10:30 am
Was at the grocery store, looking at a box of Kraft
Macaroni and Cheese.
The box was labeled,
in big letters,
“Serves 4, or one American”.
BobInget on Tue, 7th Mar 2017 11:08 am
City* Population 2014.. (3 years old)
1 Tokyo, Japan 37,833,000
2 Delhi, India 24,953,000
3 Shanghai, China 22,991,000
4 Mexico City, Mexico 20,843,000
W/O oil or a reasonable replacement, how are we to feed cities?
Forget driving to the super. All those boxes of Mac & Cheese were eaten by hungry mice.
Davy on Tue, 7th Mar 2017 11:51 am
Humans are out of balance so how do you expect their agriculture to be balanced?
“In the coming decades, agriculture will be called upon to both feed people and ensure a healthy environment,”
WTF, in the coming decades with the agricultural revolution in taters from water, soil, and oil depletion, population overshoot, planetary system decline and localized failure, and climate instability and you expect agriculture to be called upon to both feed people and ensure a healthy environment? What part of failure don’t you understand?
“These new findings have important implications for farmers. Lower demand projections may suggest that prices will not rise as much as expected in coming decades.”
The new lower demand figures are in line with a halving of the global population from a generational impact of more deaths than births from a consumption and population rebalance driven by multifaceted overshoot of thresholds both systematic and natural. A significant amount of change will occur when globalism self-destructs and global monocultures are not possible at today’s levels. These factors will be increasingly important like seasonality, the end of discretionary foods, low impact foods from economical unprocessed sources and local based foods. Long story short a food system more like 100 to 200 years ago.
When our best and brightest from the loony bin called academia preach these absurd articles you know our civilization is approaching its end.
BobInget on Tue, 7th Mar 2017 12:41 pm
Two or even 117 years ago a majority lived on farms.
Or, at least worked on farms, ranches, before the industrial revolution. Today fewer then 4% help feed the world.
This is only possible because of oil and/or natural gas.
In 1800 93.9% rural US population stood at 5,308,483
By 1900 only 60% of our 76,212,168 live on farms.
With the same amount of farmland available one hundred years ago we fed 76, million.
In 2000 81% of US lived in cities. Here’s what city people export…
The following export product groups represent the highest dollar value in American global shipments during 2016. Also shown is the percentage share each export category represents in terms of overall exports from the United States.
Machinery including computers: US$190.5 billion (13.1% of total exports)
Electrical machinery, equipment: $167.2 billion (11.5%)
Aircraft, spacecraft: $134.6 billion (9.3%)
Vehicles : $124.3 billion (8.5%)
Mineral fuels including oil: $94.7 billion (6.5%)
Optical, technical, medical apparatus: $82.0 billion (5.6%)
Plastics, plastic articles: $58.4 billion (4.0%)
Gems, precious metals: $57.8 billion (4.0%)
Pharmaceuticals: $47.1 billion (3.2%)
Organic chemicals: $33.9 billion (2.3%)
Mineral fuels including oil was the fastest-growing among the top 10 export categories for 2016, up in value by 72.4% for the 7-year period starting in 2009. Crude and refined petroleum oils as well as petroleum gases were the leading gainers under this category.
In second place for improving export sales were vehicles which rose 68.8% led by international sales of cars, automotive parts and accessories and trailers.
Exports of American aircraft and spacecraft appreciated by 62.3% over the 7-year period.
Apneaman on Tue, 7th Mar 2017 1:43 pm
Everything will be fine, just fine.
Summer heat broke 205 records and more extreme weather is to come, Climate Council of Australia reports
“Sydney had its hottest summer on record, and the regional NSW town of Moree had more than 50 consecutive days of temperatures of 35 degrees Celsius or above.
In Brisbane, the city recorded its hottest summer on record, in terms of mean temperature, while the town of Maryborough had a record 23 summer days of at least 35C.
Even the nation’s capital didn’t escape the heat, with the mercury hitting 35C on 12 days.”
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-08/summer-heat-part-of-ongoing-extreme-weather-climate-council-says/8332740
BobInget on Tue, 7th Mar 2017 2:00 pm
WE gonna need lots of NG (or coal) to keep cool this coming summer.
SOUTHERN HEMI watch is warning us.
1) Will this be the summer that crashes Arctic oil and gas pipelines in Alaska and Siberia? (permafrost melt)
2) Will this summer break all wildfire records?
a) March 7th 2017 (winter)
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/07/crews-fight-fires-in-colorado-texas-kansas-and-oklahoma.html
b) 3/7/17
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/colorado-wildfire_us_58be8da4e4b09ab537d67885
(when the political right and left agree, watch out)
BobInget on Tue, 7th Mar 2017 2:15 pm
As an investor, I’m biding on US and Canadian fertilizer companies. They pay good dividends and are near yearly lows. Unlike most stocks, certainly Not over valued.
Nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium (a.k.a. potash) – The three macronutrients most required for growing food.-
IMO relations with Russia are souring .
(Russian fertilizer/oil could get sanctions/taxed once Trump resigns.
HARM on Tue, 7th Mar 2017 3:55 pm
Relax everyone. Global food consumption will be going way DOWN over the next few decades because genetic engineering will eliminate the need for it! Technocopian breakthroughs will allow us to genetically engineer plant-people who have enough chlorophyll in their skin to photosynthesize their own energy! It’s all coming out in Tom Friedman’s next book, Being Green!
Apneaman on Tue, 7th Mar 2017 4:36 pm
Warm Winds Take Aim at Chukchi as Arctic Sea Ice Volume Hits Record Lows
“Temperatures over the Chukchi Sea are predicted to hit as high as 37 degrees Fahrenheit (2.9 C) on Wednesday and Thursday as a massive high pressure ridge building over Alaska pulls warm, moist Pacific air northward. These temperatures represent staggering warmth for this Arctic Ocean zone during March when temperatures are typically about 54 degrees F (30 degrees C) cooler.”
– Arctic Sea Ice Volume Lowest Ever Recorded During Winter, Comparable to Summer Volumes of the Early 80s
– Weather is Variable, But the Underlying Trend Looks Pretty Bad
“However, despite this potential, sea ice states are looking as bad or worse than they ever have at the end of freeze season. And it is worth noting that less ice coverage and volume leaves more dark water open to absorb the sun’s springtime and summer rays and less ice to reflect it. Furthermore, post La Nina periods, as we are now experiencing, tend to flush more atmospheric and ocean heat into the Arctic. So, despite the variable nature of weather overall, we’re in a bit of a situation where the systemic trend odds of a noteworthy sea ice recovery toward more rational trend lines pre-summer 2017 aren’t looking very good”
https://robertscribbler.com/2017/03/06/warm-winds-take-aim-at-chukchi-as-arctic-sea-ice-volume-hits-record-lows-during-february-of-2017/
Apneaman on Tue, 7th Mar 2017 4:48 pm
Zambians seeking food aid killed in stampede
At least eight killed as many affected by humanitarian crisis caused by severe regional drought scramble for handouts.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/03/zambians-seeking-food-aid-killed-stampede-170306140945875.html
makati1 on Tue, 7th Mar 2017 5:41 pm
BobInget, only in Western countries and their wannabees is the farmer to eater ratio in the single digits. Most of the rest of the world has a majority of farmers or a high percentage.
LABOR FORCE – BY OCCUPATION – AGRICULTURE
U$ – 0.7%
China – 33%
Russia – 10%
India – 49%
Mexico – 14%
Philippines – 29%
Thailand – 32%
Etc.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2048.html
The smaller the number, the more likely the country relies on oil for their production. The more oil reliance the more pain when oil stops or is too expensive to use.
Reduction of waste and a more vegetarian diet would feed those billions to come. Local farming and local use, not global shipping and all the loss involved. Not to mention cost.
Davy on Tue, 7th Mar 2017 6:15 pm
Bullshit Makati. Fake agenda news as usual. Take a country like China. China has an industrial agricultural sector that rivals the US. You forget to mention the point that several of your higher agricultural participation labor countries are also in dangerous population overshoot especially your Philippines. Your country has forest and fishery ecosystems in decline and failure. China and India are among the most polluted of nations with agricultural land being destroyed by development and industrialization. Your argument is lame as usual.
Go Speed Racer on Tue, 7th Mar 2017 7:11 pm
Hey sleep Apnea man, knock it off with
measuring the temperature.
Trump outlawed measuring the
outdoor temperature by executive order.
From now on, no more global warming.
That’s all BS now.
And he just got rid of fuel economy standards.
And bringing back CFC’s and Leaded gas!
Boat on Tue, 7th Mar 2017 7:38 pm
Mak,
Before oil life expectancy was was what, 35? When these brain storms come to mind have you considered you will be dead before oil runs out? Decades after your dead?
GregT on Tue, 7th Mar 2017 8:47 pm
Boat,
Life expectancy in the 1800s not as bad as reported
https://gcanyon.wordpress.com/2009/06/25/life-expectancy-in-the-1800s-not-as-bad-as-reported/
The issues were infant mortality and disease Boat, and had little to do with oil. Life expectancy increased at the end of the 1800s due to the ‘Germ Theory of Disease’, but only by around 10 or so years if a person made it to adulthood.
“A transitional period began in the late 1850s as the work of Louis Pasteur and Robert Koch provided convincing evidence; by 1880, miasma theory was struggling to compete with the germ theory of disease. Eventually, a “golden era” of bacteriology ensued, in which the theory quickly led to the identification of the actual organisms that cause many diseases.[3][4] Viruses were discovered in the 1890s.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germ_theory_of_disease
But of course, continue to spew your usual nonsense.
makati1 on Tue, 7th Mar 2017 8:52 pm
Boat. Oil is not going to ‘run out’. It is just going to be too expensive to buy. I see that day fast approaching. I ignore it as it has nothing to do with my quality of life.
BTW: Life expectancy is NOT determined by oil. Many people lived to be 80 and 90 in the BC years. And millions of people still die under age 35. So what?
Life expectancy in the U$ is falling, not growing, due to childbirth deaths increasing. Why is that? Because the u$ is sliding into the 3rd world, Boat.
GregT on Tue, 7th Mar 2017 9:26 pm
Why is the U.S. Infant Mortality Rate So High?
“Infant mortality, defined as death within the first year of life,1 is commonly accepted as one of the key gauges of a nation’s socioeconomic development. So how is it possible that the United States, which spends more on health care per capita—$8,713 per person annually2—than any country, has one of the highest levels of infant mortality among the world’s developed countries?”
“In 2015, the CIA ranked the U.S. 167th out of 224 countries monitored for number of infant deaths per 1,000 live births, which measures a country’s infant mortality rate, or IMR.”
“The U.S. IMR of 5.87—sandwiched in between Slovakia (6.05) and Croatia (5.77)— has been called “a national embarrassment.””
http://www.thevaccinereaction.org/2016/05/why-is-the-u-s-infant-mortality-rate-so-high/
makati1 on Tue, 7th Mar 2017 11:04 pm
Just in!
“U.S. slips to seventh best country in the world after Trump election, Switzerland tops the list”
And the US is 18th in “Quality of Life”, NOT 1st. LOL
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/03/07/us-slips-seventh-best-country-world-after-trump-election-switzerland-tops-list/98816470/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=usatoday-newstopstories
And the slide goes on…
makati1 on Tue, 7th Mar 2017 11:11 pm
Coming soon to a town near you…
“A strain of bird flu has been detected in a chicken breeder flock on a Tennessee farm contracted to U.S. food giant Tyson Foods Inc, and the 73,500 birds will be culled to stop the virus from entering the food system, government and company officials said on Sunday.”
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-birdflu-usa-idUSKBN16C0XL?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+reuters/topNews+(News+/+US+/+Top+News)
3rd world here comes America! lol
GregT on Tue, 7th Mar 2017 11:31 pm
Hmmm, according to your link Mak, the US ranks number 3 in ‘cultural influence’? Behind France and Italy?
One really must wonder what ‘culture’ they would be referring to?
Apneaman on Tue, 7th Mar 2017 11:39 pm
mak, I don’t put too much stock in the Trump win as a big factor. The US slide has been a long time coming and it was done with one piece of legislation after another and incremental steps in corruption. Can’t blame it solely on global economics either as all countries have had to deal with the changing realities of global neo liberalism. So whose to blame? Some much more than others, but when you held all the cards and conquered much of the planet culturally (music, Hollywood, consumerism, etc) there is no one else to blame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVXekzwkz10
makati1 on Wed, 8th Mar 2017 12:31 am
Ap, I agree, but that ‘slide’ is what made his win possible. Now we get to watch the show as the rest of the U$ economy and infrastructure crumbles. Trump will only add to the chaos that is the future of America. I would not be surprised if the U$ is not in another war (North Korea?) by the end of next year.
Problem is, there are not many countries left where the U$ wouldn’t get it’s ass kicked. Even little N.Korea could devastate a lot of South Korea, Japan and even Guam if it is cornered/attacked.
“A military plan should take into account North Korea’s capability to use chemical and biological weapons. Seoul, the capital of South Korea, is within easy artillery range. North and South Korea are still technically at war as they signed an armistice but not a treaty following the end of the Korean War in 1953. … If intermediate-range Musudan missiles are not knocked out at first strike, they can be used to hit targets as far as Japan and Guam. A conventional strike on North Korea would almost certainly escalate to war. Pyongyang has a 1.1 million-man army, including a mechanized infantry corps, an artillery corps, an armored corps, and several infantry corps. 13,000 artillery pieces deployed along the demilitarized zone, 30 miles from Seoul. It boasts around 1,100 tactical short-range and medium-range ballistic missiles, in addition to 100–200 intermediate range weapons (the Musudan).”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-contemplates-attack-against-north-korea/5578112
Buckle up and pass the popcorn. It is getting interesting. Nothing to do but enjoy the show. As you said, it has been a long time in production.
dooma on Wed, 8th Mar 2017 2:58 am
“In the coming decades, agriculture will be called upon to both feed people and ensure a healthy environment,” said Hunter. “Right now, the narrative in agriculture is really out of balance, with compelling goals for food production but no clear sense of the progress we need to make on the environment.”
This is only because the truth is drowned out by the sound of briefcases of money being opened. With large corporations talking the place of traditional farmers and focusing on their stock price what could possibly go wrong?
As honey bees die in their 100,000’s and species go extinct at record rates, there is not a problem according to President drill, frack and fire up the fossil fuel. What could possibly go wrong as we rape the seas like a woman with a spiked drink and as we destroy the magnificent Amazon rain forest. And now the US has just elected an arse clown who sees mother nature as somebody to pick a fight with, what could possibly go wrong???
And Davy, FFS, stop whining about China. America has shipped her highly toxic e-waste over there and set up PLENTY of factories under the safety of no environmental scrutiny. Don’t you for a second think that you have not caused pollution there for your own greedy banking cartels.
dooma on Wed, 8th Mar 2017 3:08 am
Oh and you gotta love that headline “Food demand predictions could be inaccurate”.
Is that up there with “size may vary”
“product shown is for indication purposes only”
“may cause liver damage”
“contents may settle upon shipping”
“side effects of anti-depressant include depression”
“price is only for indication only”
“conditions apply”
“fees and charges apply”
“we have the right to change conditions with no notice”
Davy on Wed, 8th Mar 2017 4:17 am
Greg, which America you talking about, rich America or poor America? There is a difference and you anti-American Canadians cherry pick your macro data for your intended diminishment effect. The country is a 1st world and 3rd world country and always has been. It is its nature. I would rather be American than any other of the Anglosphere pee holes especially Canada. I couldn’t stand having a Canadian mentality.
Davy on Wed, 8th Mar 2017 4:24 am
Dooma, so has your dumbass Australia that is sleeping with China. No country on earth contributes more to the earth’s pollution per capita than you hypocritical Australians. Coal is KING in Australia. The problem with you hypocritical anti-American Anglosphere schmucks is you love to bash the US but can’t take the look in the mirror. BTW, China is a country capable of saying no last I checked. They choose not to say no and choose to destroy their environment for profit. What about that dooma or is that an inconvenient fly in the ointment of its all the US fault.
Davy on Wed, 8th Mar 2017 4:31 am
“And the slide goes on…” We are doing fine thank you and who cares what an expat old man who ran away from home thinks. makati has some deeper reason why he hates the US. Yea we are sliding and so are all the rest of you obsessed anti-American dumbasses. You just have to blame someone because that is how hypocrisy works.
Cloggie on Wed, 8th Mar 2017 4:59 am
makati has some deeper reason why he hates the US.
I only believe he is a European American if I see a picture of him.
Dooma, so has your dumbass Australia that is sleeping with China.
http://mediawhores.co.nz/2017/02/26/in-the-jaws-of-the-dragon-how-china-is-taking-over-new-zealand/
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/america-australias-dangerous-ally-11858
https://s17.postimg.org/6wwnomfpb/worldmap.jpg
GregT on Wed, 8th Mar 2017 8:33 am
Which America you talking about?
Not me Davy. The article was from USA Today.
Apneaman on Wed, 8th Mar 2017 9:46 am
Davy, how could you possibly know what it is to have a Canadian mentality without being born and raised there? Is there another way, I’m not aware of to obtain a mentality informed by being born and raised in a culture that you are privy too? Maybe you lived in Canada for a number of years – is that it? Maybe you have spent a great deal of time reading hundreds of books about Canada, it’s people and history – is that it? Maybe the first time you ever Googled anything about Canada in your entire fucking life is when you were pissed off at me or Greg and were looking for ammunition? Sounds about right to me. Kinda like the typical American who only knows something about another country when yours starts bombing it. B-52 Geography 101
Apneaman on Wed, 8th Mar 2017 9:49 am
Update – Plains Wildfires Nearly Double in Size: Six Dead, Thousands Evacuated
https://www.wunderground.com/news/wildfires-plains-deadly-evacuations-early-march-2017
Davy on Wed, 8th Mar 2017 10:30 am
Ape man like you know the US any different than I know Canada. You lived in Georgia so what? Georgia is not the complete US. You are just a anti-American google brat. I spent time in Toronto. I had a Canadian girlfriend. I don’t claim to know all of Canada. The Canadians I know on this board are an enlightenment. There was a time when I admired the place. How much is there to know about Canada? No wonder you Canadians never talk about yourselves. What is there to talk about. Talk about a nothing special kind of place. You are just another US state like California. You don’t have an identity that is why you attack the US. Gives you a false sense of identity to discredit your neighbor.
GregT on Wed, 8th Mar 2017 11:08 am
Davy,
Are you completely oblivious to your America-centrism? Is that really the only way that you know how to define yourself? If so, you’re in for a real rude awakening. I’d be stocking up on anti-depressants if I was you.
Davy on Wed, 8th Mar 2017 11:16 am
Greg, you are the biggest hypocrite on this board with your constant obsessive anti-Americanism. It is a lifelong indoctrinated for you and there is no hope for you to find the truth because you can’t handle the truth. From birth you Canadians feast on hate and discontent for your southern neighbor. It starts with your mother’s milk. It is disgusting really. Of all the people in the world I have come in contact with Canadians are the worst for being hypocrites and assholes. Your very high standard of living, only because of the US, is coming to an end along with the US decline. We are really going to see you Canadians whine then.
GregT on Wed, 8th Mar 2017 11:19 am
LOL, in a sad kind of way.
Davy on Wed, 8th Mar 2017 11:44 am
Back at you but include a reference to my finger.
GregT on Wed, 8th Mar 2017 11:51 am
Sorry that you are unable to rise above your indoctrination Davy. I have many good close personal friends living in the US, and even some relatives, who can. Great people.
Apneaman on Wed, 8th Mar 2017 11:56 am
Davy, it’s a two way street. If Canadians stopped buying US manufactured goods a great number of Americans would be instantly unemployed or you would need to find another buyer. It’s mutually beneficial trade so stop pretending the US is doing Canada any favours. Look it up retard. I thought a 1%er business expert like you would have known this.
Cloggie on Wed, 8th Mar 2017 11:57 am
Maybe the first time you ever Googled anything about Canada in your entire fucking life is when you were pissed off at me or Greg and were looking for ammunition?
That’s your own method.
GregT on Wed, 8th Mar 2017 11:57 am
Oh yea, forgot. I have an Uncle who is much like you. The rest of the family does their best just to ignore him. He is an embarrassment, especially to the rest of my American relatives.
Jan on Wed, 8th Mar 2017 12:18 pm
Every year billions of tonnes of top soil gets washed into the oceans.
http://www.fewresources.org/soil-science-and-society-were-running-out-of-dirt.html
Each year aquifers which feed half the world are being depleted.
https://water.usgs.gov/edu/gwdepletion.html
On top of that as oil becomes more expensive dealing with these problems becomes less possible
makati1 on Wed, 8th Mar 2017 5:31 pm
BTW: Cloggie. I’m from Germany. My 14th generation German ships captain left there for America and settled in Penn’s Woods in pre-U$A (1734). Pics not necessary unless you cannot read. I still have enough original genes to look German. My last name is German. I am just carrying on the family tradition of relocating to a better country when possible.
The family organization has publish a book on our family’s history. I have a large chart of the family tree with those generations indicated on the branches. It’s original is in the Historical Society’s museum in the town where I was born. Thousands of names and dates. I know my lineage. Do you? Relocate now and avoid the rush! lol
farmlad on Wed, 8th Mar 2017 9:01 pm
Makati And from how many other places have your ancesstors come from? Ya; you probably never thought of that. Most people have 2 parents 4 grandparents 8 great grandparents 16 great great grandparents and you say your German? whoop dee doo geezer.
makati1 on Wed, 8th Mar 2017 9:26 pm
I know where they come from. Germany, Austria, Scotland, England, Ireland, probably some other European and Russian countries, not to mention maybe even African or Asian. But direct male lineage is from Germany. I can follow it on the chart. That makes me a typical mongrel American. What does it matter if I happen to know my lineage? Maybe you are jealous? Cloggie is.
Davy on Thu, 9th Mar 2017 12:57 am
I love sucking American cock and feeling hot ribbons of American jizz land on my face. Nothing beats a nice hard American cock in my mouth. I’d like to suck of the entire crew of an aircraft carrier. That’s gotta be at least six miles of cock. America is so fucking awesome.
Makati1 on Thu, 9th Mar 2017 1:01 am
I’ve got 2 parents, 3 grandparents, 5 great grandparents. Polygamy and inbreeding. I’m more inbred than Cleopatra. I’m pretty sure my great grandfather is also my grandfather cuz he married his daughter. And his parents were siblings. It’s kind of a mess.
dooma on Thu, 9th Mar 2017 1:22 am
Davy Davy Davy, you are like a stuck record. I already agreed that what we have done in bed with China would make a porn director blush. But show me a country that hasn’t? Surely you are not going to say America?
Twice I have said that this piece of a shit island is just one big quarry. Our politicians are scumbags, only interested in feathering their nests. We developed a new kind of windmill that was about twice as efficient as current models, and nobody backed it here, so they sold it to China. We are complete fools.
But you, your token swipe at what your country does is an absolute joke. I know that you think that you are in the best damned “democracy” that money can buy. You convince nobody with your little self-deprecating ruse.
Have you ever considered why you are defending your country all the time?
The world dislikes America because you have been the role model for capitalism since WW2 and look what you have done with that honor.
I have had American culture shoved down my throat since I was a child. Your shit fast food, television shows, military bases.
You have raped the world for your benefit. Been the only country to use WMD’s. You think it is your god given right to decide which children should starve due to sanctions imposed by your Jewish masters.
Instead of buying commodities like China, you have invaded and taken riches, engineered regime changes. Committed all sorts of unethical activities to suit your resource-devouring country.
You completely fucked the Vietnam war up, but you won the 1000’s of post-war Hollywood movies made about it.
You say coal is king in my country. HA, anything that makes money is king in your country as you worship the all mighty dollar. At least we have Environmental regulations and an EPA in place. Thanks to the Fanta-coloured fuckwit, you and China can have a pollution war.
I had to laugh when you compared Trump to Putin. Trump is nowhere near a statesman. Just a crude used car salesman who deals in property instead of cars.
Voting him in was the last straw for just about all of the world who could not believe how bad America has become.
You are lucky that I am a typical Aussie who doesn’t give two shits about looking in the mirror. You keep implying that I can’t handle it.
Come and stand with me in the mirror and we can hold a list of statistics about health care, safe birth rates, life expectancy, literacy and numeracy rates, ACTUAL Co2 release amounts because the atmosphere doesn’t understand per capita.
You keep swatting away all those negative comments about your country, but I hope I have shed some light on why it is a full-time occupation for you.
“Have a nice day.”
makati1 on Thu, 9th Mar 2017 1:37 am
Who is the Makati1 imposter? Davy? No he isn’t intelligent enough. The real makati1 doesn’t have caps, just small letters. LMAO
makati1 on Thu, 9th Mar 2017 1:48 am
Dooma, We all know what country is the asshole of the world and it is between Mexico and Canada. It is circling the bowl. The flush is fast approaching and Davy knows it. Desperation is setting in.
You and I may not live in the best countries, but they are a thousand times better than the U$. If You guys were smart, you would kick out the Empire. I hope the Prez here moves farther and farther from American influence and more and more toward China and Russia. That is where the future lay.