Every One of the World’s Big Economies Is Now Growing
A decade after the world descended into a devastating economic crisis, a key marker of revival has finally been achieved. Every major economy on earth is expanding at once, a synchronous wave of growth that is creating jobs, lifting fortunes and tempering fears of popular discontent.
No tidy, all-encompassing narrative explains how the world has finally escaped the global downturn. The United States has been propelled by government spending unleashed during the previous administration, plus a recent $1.5 trillion shot of tax cuts. Europe has finally felt the effects of cheap money pumped out by its central bank.
In general terms, improvement owes less to some newfound wellspring of wealth than the simple fact that many of the destructive forces that felled growth have finally exhausted their potency.
The long convalescence has yielded a global recovery that is far from blistering in pace, and geopolitical risks threaten its demise. Many economists are skeptical that the benefits of growth will reach beyond the educated, affluent, politically connected class that has captured most of the spoils in many countries and left behind working people whose wages have stagnated even as jobless rates have plunged.
And still the fact that every major swath of the globe is expanding is a source of optimism. There is no guarantee that this expansion will prove more equitable. Yet if growth were to evolve, bolstering wages while adding to the security of middle-class lives, the beginning would probably feel something like now.
“The world is less reliant on a few star performers,” said Barret Kupelian, senior economist in the London office of PwC, the global accounting and consulting company. “If something bad happens in one economy, the fact that global growth is spread gives you more assurance that this is more sustainable.”
Growth Across the Globe
For the first time since the financial crisis a decade ago, all of the world’s major economies are growing.
The United States, the world’s largest economy, is into its ninth year of growth, with the International Monetary Fund lifting expectations for expansion to 2.7 percent this year from 2.3 percent because of the tax cuts.
China has diminished fears of an abrupt halt to its decades-long growth trajectory. Europe, only recently dismissed as anemic and hopelessly vexed by political dysfunction, has emerged as a growth leader. Even Japan, long synonymous with grinding decline, is expanding as well.
Rising oil prices have lifted Russia and Middle East producers, while Mexico has so far transcended fears that menacing trade rhetoric from the Trump administration would dent its economy. Brazil, still suffering the effects of a veritable depression, is flashing tentative signs of recovery.
The result is a hopeful albeit fragile recovery, one vulnerable to the increasingly unpredictable predilections of world leaders.
Threats of nuclear annihilation exchanged by President Trump and the North Korean leader Kim Jong-un have sown fears. Britain’s pending departure from the European Union — known as Brexit — holds the potential to ensue absent a deal, subjecting Europe to grave uncertainty about the rules of trade especially for finance. And Mr. Trump’s on again-off again vows to tear up the North American Free Trade Agreement while unleashing a trade war with China also risks derailing growth.
“We used to operate under the idea that Western markets are politically stable, while we accepted that frontier markets were risky,” said Martin Scheepbouwer, chief executive officer of the OLX Group, which operates online classified advertising platforms in 41 countries. “Nowadays, with Brexit in Europe and the presidency in the United States, there’s a new level of instability looming over the economy. That’s something that concerns us.”
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Not until the summer of 2012, after Mario Draghi, the European Central Bank chief, vowed to do “whatever it takes,” did Europe’s economic siege lift.Credit Fredrik Von Erichsen/DPA, via Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
The world economy is expected to grow by 3.9 percent this year and next, up from 3.7 last year, and 3.2 percent in 2016, according to the I.M.F. That is positive. Yet in the years before the crisis, global growth typically exceeded 4 percent.
As the World Economic Forum this past week released an assessment of risk factors featuring a survey of 1,000 experts, it found that 93 percent of respondents saw increased threat of political or economic confrontations. Some 79 percent fretted about heightened likelihood of military conflict and 73 percent saw rising risks of an erosion of world trading rules.
The report also warned of rising economic inequality, growing threats to cybersecurity and increased incidence of extreme weather enhanced by climate change.
“Many of these risks are increasingly systemic,” said Margareta Drzeniek Hanouz, an economist at the World Economic Forum, adding that they threaten “catastrophic consequences for humanity, and for the economy.”
Global businesses appear cautiously optimistic that the good times can last.
In Poland and Brazil, online job listings are growing rapidly, according to OLX, a clear indication of growth. Across Europe, real estate ads offering homes for sale have increased at more than double the pace of rental properties, another sign that people are operating with more money.
The global crisis began more than a decade ago with the calamitous end of an American real estate bonanza that set off a global disaster involving so-called derivatives.
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Mexico, a major producer of avocados, has so far transcended fears that menacing trade rhetoric from the Trump administration would dent its economy.Credit Ronaldo Schemidt/AFP
As the reckoning played out from the United States to Europe to Asia, oil prices plunged, hitting Russia and the Middle East. Soybean farms in Brazil and Argentina saw orders plummet. So did mines in Australia and India, and computer chip fabricators in Malaysia and South Korea.
Washington engineered swift relief, with a bank rescue and an enormous injection of credit from the Federal Reserve. But Europe prolonged the agony with bitter recriminations over who should clean up the mess.
As European governments bailed out national banks, foisting the costs on taxpayers, investors demanded higher interest rates to continue lending, raising existential questions about the euro. Not until the summer of 2012, after the European Central Bank chief Mario Draghi vowed to do “whatever it takes,” did the siege lift.
This year, the 19 nations that share the euro are expected to see economic growth of 1.9 percent, according to I.M.F. That is not scorching. In Spain, Greece and Italy, young people still grapple with terrible rates of joblessness. Yet compared with the 4.5 percent decline in 2009, and smaller contractions in 2012 and 2013, it makes for a different era.
As recovery has spread, factories in Eastern Europe have bustled with additional orders. Auto plants in the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland and Romania have sent growing volumes of cars toward Germany, France and the Netherlands.
DSM, a Netherlands-based multinational company that makes nutritional products, opened a $60 million factory in Rwanda last May that is buying soy and corn from nearly 10,000 local farmers and using it to produce instant porridge.
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Auto plants in the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania, and Poland have sent growing volumes of cars toward Germany, France and the Netherlands.Credit Bartek Wrzesniowski/AFP
“We are investing heavily in Asia and also in Africa because the growth of the population there is stronger,” said the company’s chief executive officer, Feike Sijbesma. “Africa, which always was the forgotten continent, is not the forgotten continent any longer.”
The reawakening of Europe combined with growth in the United States has kept Chinese industry humming to satisfy demand for goods, from auto parts to tools to clothing. More factory production has lifted prices for commodities, and increasing revenues at copper producers in Chile and Indonesia, gold mines in South Africa and silver operations in Sweden.
The world is now enjoying a positive feedback loop, with growing business confidence leading to more hiring, delivering gains in consumer spending. More money in consumer pockets gives businesses more reason to expand.
“There’s basically no country in the world where the consumer is not doing well,” said Bart van Ark, chief economist at The Conference Board, a business and research association in New York.
The question now is whether new investment will materialize quickly enough to sustain expansion. Factories in Germany, France, the Netherlands, and Portugal were operating at close to full capacity at the end of last year, according to data analyzed by The Conference Board.
In the United States, investment is increasing, adding to momentum for expansion. In Europe, the growth is uneven.
The biggest concern comes from Washington, where the Trump administration has frequently vowed to punish Mexico and China for their lopsided trade balances with the United States — a step that would raise the cost of components used by American factories. In a sign that such talk has moved beyond rhetoric, the Trump administration this past week slapped protective tariffs on imports of solar panels and washing machines.
“You get into a trade war, that’s the real worry,” said Ben May, a global economist at Oxford Economics in London. “The impacts on global growth would be quite severe.”
126 Comments on "Every One of the World’s Big Economies Is Now Growing"
Davy on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 11:39 am
“Cloggie, you hit a Missouri nerve! I doubt anything he says is true, but if his wife has a place in Italy, she may decide to not take him.”
Translation: Cloggie, Davy cleaned our clock last night and this morning. wah wah. So much whining out of the two geriatrics.
Davy on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 11:41 am
billyT and his nutter global research dot com goes off topic yet again with a who cares dumbass comment.
Davy on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 11:44 am
“Italian GDP ‘growth’ is less than the US and the US is only about 2.5% in 2017.”
billT, how come you will reference GDP numbers when they fit your agenda but when they don’t you say they are completely made up. What is it dementia man? Are the real or not and if so why are you using them. What a confused old guy.
Davy on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 11:48 am
“Sorry, Cloggie, but the EU is in no better position than the US financially. When one goes, so goes the other.”
LMFAO, now the two geriatrics are arguing their personal agendas. Neither one of them has a clue about finance or economics. Just a binary emotional hate message.
GregT on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 12:17 pm
“This absurd equation obliges them to be, in short, blind dupes. It then further misleads them into supposing that anyone who opposes a gangster state rule of the world is anti-American.”
It doesn’t get any more obvious.
Cloggie on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 12:20 pm
What does that mean… the US and EU “go”? Evaporate? Sink in the ocean?
And I have explained higher in this thread (“Cloggie on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 7:57 am”) why Italy is financially the most stable country in the West.
The US is determined to take the EU down as it is a challenger to US domination of globalization.
How? We can always turn to Russia and China.
No, Europe is doing the opposite: taking over from the US that’s going to fall apart. And we will take those European-Americans with us that have enough of being a third world country.
Meanwhile all sorts of ethnicities are preying on the dying carcass of the US itself. Like this Hispanic, who can’t suppress his glee that Teas will soon be a blue state… for ever:
California, Arizona, same story. Fine with me. We in Europe saw the Heartland first.
GregT on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 12:26 pm
The enablers are the true enemies of the States. The real anti-Americans are those who do not speak out against those who are destroying the country from within.
Cloggie on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 12:44 pm
The enablers are the true enemies of the States. The real anti-Americans are those who do not speak out against those who are destroying the country from within.
“Davy is the greatest anti-American on this board.”
Without a doubt.
Davy on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 1:05 pm
Translation: Davy singlehandedly neutered the extremist anti-Americans nedernazi, grehggieT, and billyT. Now they are whining and forming alliances. Better get which if boys you are sinking into irrelevance. People are now seeing the lies, inconsistencies, and distortions. The site is moderating and respectability is returning.
GregT on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 2:37 pm
“Davy singlehandedly neutered the extremist anti-Americans nedernazi, grehggieT, and billyT. Now they are whining and forming alliances. Better get which if boys you are sinking into irrelevance. People are now seeing the lies, inconsistencies, and distortions. The site is moderating and respectability is returning.”
Translation:
Your condition continues to deteriorate, your delusions have now completely taken over, and you no longer have even the tiniest grip on reality.
You should have spoken with a mental health care professional a long time ago. You are now beyond help, and it’s been very sad over these last few years watching you go completely insane.
Davy on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 3:17 pm
Funny that greggie, nedernazi, and billy can’t manage a fight on their own. These pussies have to stalk and prick as a group. When you get them alone they are easy pickings. Billy won’t even come out in the morning if greggie is not up. Afraid I guess. As a group they are like a swarm of flies. They don’t say a whole hell of a lot. Greggie is especially lite on the intelligence. How
Hard is it to stalk and prick. LOOSERS.
Cloggie on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 3:39 pm
I just lectured Makati that I do not share his views on Europe/Italy going down.
I have you for breakfast, davy-boy.
You still are too much of a coward to face up to the history of WW2 and engage in a debate with me.LOSER.
You are the coward.
Tip: dollar with 2 “L”, loser with one “O”.
Davy on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 3:59 pm
Now your starting to talk like a man, neder. It’s when you hang out with pussies like billy and greggie I start to wonder if you have nuts or not.
GregT on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 4:03 pm
It’s completely understandable why they kicked you out of the family business (one can only imagine how much damage you did before they booted you out), isolated you on grandpa’s farm, and even arranged for a wife and kids, but what doesn’t make any sense at all, is why they allowed you to get your hands on another cellphone, with access to the outside world.
You are one completely messed up individual Davy, and your daily tirades and temper tantrums are not helping you in the least. Your paranoid delusions have continued to get worse over time, and your name calling and childish rhetoric speak volumes to your states of emotional and phycological despair.
The individuals on this forum are all entitled to their own opinions, and they do not have to agree with each other on all points. You are not in charge here, and your constant attacks have no bearing on other peoples’ views, opinions, or ideals. All that you have accomplished here, is to polarize this board along national lines, and to spew your hatred and contempt of others on an almost daily basis for well over four years now.
I’m sure that many here enjoy watching you lose your shit. I don’t. In all sincerity, I truly feel sorry for you.
Mad Kat on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 5:24 pm
Cloggie and I may disagree on the EU’s future, but that is what reality is. Different opinions that will eventually prove one or the other wrong, or both. I do not need to attack Cloggie with putdowns, just present the facts as I see them. They can be accepted, considered or ignored, and I can still respect the person who disagrees.
There are 7+ billion different views of the future. Some of us will be correct to some degree and some way off, but that is also reality. I do not need to try to put those down or call them names because they do not agree with my vision. Putdowns are the method of an immature, arrogant, loser, for whom I have no respect.
Mad Kat on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 5:33 pm
Greg, Davy is gone. I’m not sure what is posting here, but it is not even close to being rational anymore. I think he is beyond help.
This board must be his only entertainment/release valve for the pressures in his brain. Better than beating his wife or kids, if he has them. Entertainment for me as I watch for new expletives, putdowns, etc. But, even there, he is no longer very creative. And no attempt to use facts/refs to prove his side.
Sorry, but I do not pity him. I pity anyone who has to live with him.
Davy on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 6:31 pm
“It’s completely understandable why they kicked you out of the family business”
Well, didn’t know all that greggie but what I would ask you is why are you so uptight? I think you are just pissed that I constantly moderate your stalking and pricking. Just lighten up and be respectable and make good comments instead of stalking and pricking Americans constantly and exclusively.
“You are one completely messed up individual Davy, and your daily tirades and temper tantrums are not helping you in the least.”
Greggie, messed up like this. I think you take the cake on messed up!!!
“GregT on Thu, 23rd Nov 2017 3:47 am Good find Davy. I spoke with my psychiatrist, and she says that you rock. You are my new hero Davy. I don’t normally do gay sex, but she says that it would be worth it. Would you mind sucking my cock before I fuck you up the ass? Honey.”
“The individuals on this forum are all entitled to their own opinions, and they do not have to agree with each other on all points. You are not in charge here, and your constant attacks have no bearing on other peoples’ views, opinions, or ideals. All that you have accomplished here, is to polarize this board along national lines, and to spew your hatred and contempt of others on an almost daily basis for well over four years now.”
What a dumbass grehggie. Get a life or go see your therapist. You stalk and prick and I moderate it. You just got neutered you whining bisexual loser.
Davy on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 6:35 pm
“I do not need to try to put those down or call them names because they do not agree with my vision. Putdowns are the method of an immature, arrogant, loser, for whom I have no respect.”
Please billy, spare me the whining. You are the most disrespectful person on this forum. This forum is polluted by your hate and nastiness daily and excessively then you have the bold face to whine like a victim. What a pussy. You are getting neutered prick and that is what happens. Moderate your extremism and we won’t have this problem. For being an old man you sure act like a child.
Davy on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 6:38 pm
“Greg, Davy is gone. I’m not sure what is posting here, but it is not even close to being rational anymore. I think he is beyond help.”
LOL, sure has your panties in a wad so it is working. Losers act like that they whine and play victim looking for sympathy. Whine to your boyfriend grehggie. He will give you all kinds of warm comments. You guys are quite the couple. Get a room please not in public.
Just ignore Mad kat and greg they are just two paranoid and fear full idiots! once the collapse happens they are both dead fucking meat! They know that deep down! That is why when I hit them with the facts and science they deny it and attack the messenger!
“That is why when I hit them with the facts and science they deny it and attack the messenger!”
None of the reports that you have linked to, come to the same conclusions as you have, as has been pointed out numerous times before.
You are a liar MM, and completely full of BS.
GregT on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 8:58 pm
“Whine to your boyfriend grehggie.”
Do you honestly believe that grown adults are bothered by your childish little names?
Most normally adjusted people grow out of that stage by the time they become teenagers.
Mad Kat on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 9:00 pm
I think the ‘super genius’ MM (sarcasm) has a problem in comprehension. It is very similar to his alter ego, Davy. Both seem have no grasp on reality. Fun to read, but easy to ignore.
What happened to bring it on? HAHA I pulled your bitch cord! LOL Just shows what a true pussy you are when the pressure is on! You fold like a paper bag! You are fucked when the limits to growth (Meadows, 1972) economic collapse hits!
Tick Tock!
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 10:41 pm
Greg
Don’t worry you can always trim some fat off of your ole ladies ass to eat for dinner when the shops are all looted!
GregT on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 11:03 pm
“Just shows what a true pussy you are when the pressure is on! You fold like a paper bag!”
No pressure at all, and I don’t imagine there will be for at least another decade or so, probably much longer than that. I suspect things will really be dire around the time you’re my age. I’ll likely already be dead and buried by then.
GregT on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 11:08 pm
“Don’t worry you can always trim some fat off of your ole ladies ass to eat for dinner when the shops are all looted!”
My wife is a long distance runner MM. The last half marathon she ran was the summer before last.
We aren’t planning on going anywhere near any shops any time soon. Neither of us are particularly fond of densely populated areas, for obvious reasons.
Mad Kat on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 11:23 pm
Greg, do we have another MM clone? Split personality? Davy, MM and now Mob? lol
GregT on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 11:29 pm
Same severely messed up individual Mad Kat.
Mad Kat on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 12:52 am
Greg, if that is so, I just checked for the 28th and one of the three were posting constantly, except for a three hour and a two and one half hour break in that 24 hour period. However, there were no two posts close together time wise. All a few minutes apart or more. At least 37 posts in that 24 hour period. Definitely psycho!
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 1:58 am
Greg several decades? LOL you are so naive and have zero evidence to back that wishful thought up! I have submitted several pieces of evidence that shows that is impossible! once the oil shortages hit that is ball game! Per IEA and Saudis!
Mad Kat on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 2:21 am
Mob, the “shortages will peter out over time, not suddenly. It may take decades. Not in a few weeks or years. Too much already in place. YOU might not be able to buy any, but it will be there for industry, military and government. Only your lifestyle will be 3rd world.
GregT on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 2:23 am
Anybody who believes that he is ‘moderating’, ‘neutering’, or in control of other peoples’ thoughts, beliefs, ideals, or opinions, is one fucked up individual Mad Kat. The sock puppetry is an act of desperation, just like the name calling, childish rhetoric, and delusional accusations. I wouldn’t take anything that this guy? says at face value, whoever he really is.
One thing for certain, he isn’t anything that he has repeatedly pretended to be. My best guess is that he is in a psych ward somewhere, and somehow managed to gain internet access. A complete freaking nut bar. Expect many more years of the exact same bullshit, unless somebody finally gets the guy under control. Which isn’t at all likely.
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 2:25 am
Mad Kat
We need oil for everything, military, governments, public, and industries! you can’t just hoard it for one or the other! You are just scared so you are not accepting what is going to happen! Once the oil shortage hits that is ballgame! Wall street will shit bricks like a mother fucker! And it will be a fast crash collapse!
And dont worry Mad kat and Greg your chest pounding “Bring it on”! Trust me it will be brought! LOL
GregT on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 2:43 am
“once the oil shortages hit that is ball game!”
The oil shortages hit in the US in 1973, and have hit many other regions around the world since then.
When global peak production is reached, around one half of all of the oil in the world will still be left. If you for one second believe that those hundreds of billions of barrels of oil will be left in the ground, you are far less intelligent than just your average garden variety idiot. There is far more than enough coal, oil, and natural gas, to cause a global mass extinction event on this planet, within your natural lifetime.
“I have submitted several pieces of evidence that shows that is impossible!”
I have repeatedly provided quotes from your ‘submitted evidence’ that are in complete contradiction to your continued willful ignorance and stupidity.
GregT on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 2:58 am
“And dont worry Mad kat and Greg your chest pounding “Bring it on”! Trust me it will be brought! LOL”
You have continually displayed a complete lack of intelligence MM, and personally, I wouldn’t even consider you to be even remotely smart.
You are a complete idiot dude, totally brain dead. Not even worthy of anybody with an IQ over 100’s time.
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 3:00 am
Greg
Cherry picking doesnt disproves a paper greg..Only in your deluded Jesus fantasy world! LOL It doesnt matter if we have half the supplies left because once we have a shortage we cant grow global GDP! And it will cause a limits to growth Economic collapse! Just like the German Army study concluded as well! And the Korwitz paper as well!..
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 3:03 am
Greg
Sticks and stones! From someone who isn’t even intelligent of creative to come up with a clever handle! Hell I even came up with Mad Kat’s handle! All you do is bitch and moan about others on this blog! you add nothing of substance ever! You are just an old crusty boomer! Who is going to get his shit kicked in by someone of my age soon enough! And Daddy wont be able to bail you out!
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 3:09 am
People are almost completely ignoring a looming crisis for oil
People deny the peak oil supply shortages because its just to scary for them. Its like saying there is going to be a food or water shortage! They can’t handle the thought! its just unthinkable! I know many will still be denying even when the lights go out! They will blame the Muslims or Russians! They will swear there is still plenty of oil and it was all set up on purpose by the deep state or some other conspiratorial idiocy! They will tell their kids! We still have 100’s of years of oil sonny boy! The globalist just wanted to depopulate the planet so they are not drilling on purpose! It was those evil Koch brothers!
GregT on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 3:13 am
One of my best friends was diagnosed with terminal pancreatic cancer three weeks ago MM. She will die at 10:00 am this coming Friday morning. Doctor assisted suicide. It is going to happen to every single one of us, there is no getting out alive.
You are nothing more than an insignificant, immature, ‘the sky s falling’, chicken little.
Grow the fuck up, loser.
pat on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 4:52 am
“People deny the peak oil supply shortages because its just to scary for them. Its like saying there is going to be a food or water shortage! They can’t handle the thought! its just unthinkable! I know many will still be denying even when the lights go out!” the world is at the end of oil era. now it is getting even more clearer and confirm that the global dominant energy of growth, activity is ending even much faster than any ever imagined. the global dominant energy, the last remaining black glue, expensive, hard to get, low eroei, unconventional and the highly overstated are exhausting at unprecedented pace and already seeing the signals of oil shortages. worlds capacity to meet the ever increasing, rising demand is curbed due limits of nature, geopolitical. . prepare…
Mad Kat on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 4:52 am
Greg, My condolences. I lost a good fried to a similar cancer about 20 years ago. A long, painful death then. I lost my boyhood best friend about 10 years ago from another cancer caused by along life of tobacco. He was only a week older than I and our mothers were high school friends.
As we get older more and more of our past dies. It could be depressing, but not so much if we have a future to look forward to and plan for. If we make new friends. Try new places and things. That is my current adventure.
After the SHTF, meds will likely get scarce or not be available at all. But, that is life. We all have the same end.
Davy on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 6:03 am
“Anybody who believes that he is ‘moderating’, ‘neutering’, or in control of other peoples’ thoughts, beliefs, ideals, or opinions, is one fucked up individual Mad Kat.”
It working great with your numbnutness. Mr. grehggieT the one that demands respect and is the board psychoanalyst that has a therapist. The therapist is likely form stalking and pricking. WTF, dumbass do you think you do when you stalk and prick? Duh Duh dumb Canadian think about that. What a piece of work. Your double standards and holier than thou shit is lame.
“The sock puppetry is an act of desperation, just like the name calling, childish rhetoric, and delusional accusations. I wouldn’t take anything that this guy? says at face value, whoever he really is.”
More double standards and at least I don’t tell people to commit suicide. Is that how you deal with problems up in BC? Do you tell them go ahead and do it?
“One thing for certain, he isn’t anything that he has repeatedly pretended to be. My best guess is that he is in a psych ward somewhere, and somehow managed to gain internet access. “
Well you yourself have said here and it is documented that you have a therapist. I guess for sexual deviations. Nothing wrong with being bisexual but I am sure it is an issue with your honesty and integrity being married. Are you a cheater grehggieT?
“A complete freaking nut bar. Expect many more years of the exact same bullshit, unless somebody finally gets the guy under control. Which isn’t at all likely.”
LMFAO, I really got to you and that is MISSION ACOMPLISHED! What a whining piece of shit and worthy of a good clock cleaning.
Davy on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 6:09 am
“Grow the fuck up, loser.”
Shut up greggie with the Canadian “fucks” can’t you people make a sentence without saying fuck. I thought Mr board respectable didn’t call people names? HYPOCRITE
Davy on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 6:13 am
Greg, My condolences. I lost a good fried to a similar cancer about 20 years ago.
Billy, this is not a personal chat board. Since you and grehggieT are in a digital relationship get his book face number and talk to him there we don’t need your sad stories especially since the both of you are horrible people. stay on topic please
“As we get older more and more of our past dies. It could be depressing, but not so much if we have a future to look forward to and plan for. If we make new friends. Try new places and things. That is my current adventure.”
More of billy’s denial of death and self-praise. You are sickening billy. Please move to your jungle old folk’s home.
Mad Kat on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 6:21 am
Davy, you are a disgrace to the human species. Hate burns in your heart and jealousy is eating you up. Greed is part of your lifestyle as is arrogance, stupidity and immorality.
You can’t seem to see that you need serious help before you do something really stupid like ‘going postal’ at some hillbilly get together. Maybe Greg and I will read about it in the news someday soon. It seems to be the path you are on. You are really mentally sick.
Davy on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 11:39 am
“Cloggie, you hit a Missouri nerve! I doubt anything he says is true, but if his wife has a place in Italy, she may decide to not take him.”
Translation: Cloggie, Davy cleaned our clock last night and this morning. wah wah. So much whining out of the two geriatrics.
Davy on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 11:41 am
billyT and his nutter global research dot com goes off topic yet again with a who cares dumbass comment.
Davy on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 11:44 am
“Italian GDP ‘growth’ is less than the US and the US is only about 2.5% in 2017.”
billT, how come you will reference GDP numbers when they fit your agenda but when they don’t you say they are completely made up. What is it dementia man? Are the real or not and if so why are you using them. What a confused old guy.
Davy on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 11:48 am
“Sorry, Cloggie, but the EU is in no better position than the US financially. When one goes, so goes the other.”
LMFAO, now the two geriatrics are arguing their personal agendas. Neither one of them has a clue about finance or economics. Just a binary emotional hate message.
GregT on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 12:17 pm
“This absurd equation obliges them to be, in short, blind dupes. It then further misleads them into supposing that anyone who opposes a gangster state rule of the world is anti-American.”
It doesn’t get any more obvious.
Cloggie on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 12:20 pm
What does that mean… the US and EU “go”? Evaporate? Sink in the ocean?
And I have explained higher in this thread (“Cloggie on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 7:57 am”) why Italy is financially the most stable country in the West.
The US is determined to take the EU down as it is a challenger to US domination of globalization.
How? We can always turn to Russia and China.
No, Europe is doing the opposite: taking over from the US that’s going to fall apart. And we will take those European-Americans with us that have enough of being a third world country.
Meanwhile all sorts of ethnicities are preying on the dying carcass of the US itself. Like this Hispanic, who can’t suppress his glee that Teas will soon be a blue state… for ever:
https://twitter.com/vdare/status/957604886744616961
California, Arizona, same story. Fine with me. We in Europe saw the Heartland first.
GregT on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 12:26 pm
The enablers are the true enemies of the States. The real anti-Americans are those who do not speak out against those who are destroying the country from within.
Cloggie on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 12:44 pm
The enablers are the true enemies of the States. The real anti-Americans are those who do not speak out against those who are destroying the country from within.
Indeed. I love Americans:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdneKLhsWOQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDo0H8Fm7d0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x67trYfuzV0
Davy is the greatest anti-American on this board.
GregT on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 12:51 pm
“Davy is the greatest anti-American on this board.”
Without a doubt.
Davy on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 1:05 pm
Translation: Davy singlehandedly neutered the extremist anti-Americans nedernazi, grehggieT, and billyT. Now they are whining and forming alliances. Better get which if boys you are sinking into irrelevance. People are now seeing the lies, inconsistencies, and distortions. The site is moderating and respectability is returning.
GregT on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 2:37 pm
“Davy singlehandedly neutered the extremist anti-Americans nedernazi, grehggieT, and billyT. Now they are whining and forming alliances. Better get which if boys you are sinking into irrelevance. People are now seeing the lies, inconsistencies, and distortions. The site is moderating and respectability is returning.”
Translation:
Your condition continues to deteriorate, your delusions have now completely taken over, and you no longer have even the tiniest grip on reality.
You should have spoken with a mental health care professional a long time ago. You are now beyond help, and it’s been very sad over these last few years watching you go completely insane.
Davy on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 3:17 pm
Funny that greggie, nedernazi, and billy can’t manage a fight on their own. These pussies have to stalk and prick as a group. When you get them alone they are easy pickings. Billy won’t even come out in the morning if greggie is not up. Afraid I guess. As a group they are like a swarm of flies. They don’t say a whole hell of a lot. Greggie is especially lite on the intelligence. How
Hard is it to stalk and prick. LOOSERS.
Cloggie on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 3:39 pm
I just lectured Makati that I do not share his views on Europe/Italy going down.
I have you for breakfast, davy-boy.
You still are too much of a coward to face up to the history of WW2 and engage in a debate with me.LOSER.
You are the coward.
Tip: dollar with 2 “L”, loser with one “O”.
Davy on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 3:59 pm
Now your starting to talk like a man, neder. It’s when you hang out with pussies like billy and greggie I start to wonder if you have nuts or not.
GregT on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 4:03 pm
It’s completely understandable why they kicked you out of the family business (one can only imagine how much damage you did before they booted you out), isolated you on grandpa’s farm, and even arranged for a wife and kids, but what doesn’t make any sense at all, is why they allowed you to get your hands on another cellphone, with access to the outside world.
You are one completely messed up individual Davy, and your daily tirades and temper tantrums are not helping you in the least. Your paranoid delusions have continued to get worse over time, and your name calling and childish rhetoric speak volumes to your states of emotional and phycological despair.
The individuals on this forum are all entitled to their own opinions, and they do not have to agree with each other on all points. You are not in charge here, and your constant attacks have no bearing on other peoples’ views, opinions, or ideals. All that you have accomplished here, is to polarize this board along national lines, and to spew your hatred and contempt of others on an almost daily basis for well over four years now.
I’m sure that many here enjoy watching you lose your shit. I don’t. In all sincerity, I truly feel sorry for you.
Mad Kat on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 5:24 pm
Cloggie and I may disagree on the EU’s future, but that is what reality is. Different opinions that will eventually prove one or the other wrong, or both. I do not need to attack Cloggie with putdowns, just present the facts as I see them. They can be accepted, considered or ignored, and I can still respect the person who disagrees.
There are 7+ billion different views of the future. Some of us will be correct to some degree and some way off, but that is also reality. I do not need to try to put those down or call them names because they do not agree with my vision. Putdowns are the method of an immature, arrogant, loser, for whom I have no respect.
Mad Kat on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 5:33 pm
Greg, Davy is gone. I’m not sure what is posting here, but it is not even close to being rational anymore. I think he is beyond help.
This board must be his only entertainment/release valve for the pressures in his brain. Better than beating his wife or kids, if he has them. Entertainment for me as I watch for new expletives, putdowns, etc. But, even there, he is no longer very creative. And no attempt to use facts/refs to prove his side.
Sorry, but I do not pity him. I pity anyone who has to live with him.
Davy on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 6:31 pm
“It’s completely understandable why they kicked you out of the family business”
Well, didn’t know all that greggie but what I would ask you is why are you so uptight? I think you are just pissed that I constantly moderate your stalking and pricking. Just lighten up and be respectable and make good comments instead of stalking and pricking Americans constantly and exclusively.
“You are one completely messed up individual Davy, and your daily tirades and temper tantrums are not helping you in the least.”
Greggie, messed up like this. I think you take the cake on messed up!!!
“GregT on Thu, 23rd Nov 2017 3:47 am Good find Davy. I spoke with my psychiatrist, and she says that you rock. You are my new hero Davy. I don’t normally do gay sex, but she says that it would be worth it. Would you mind sucking my cock before I fuck you up the ass? Honey.”
“The individuals on this forum are all entitled to their own opinions, and they do not have to agree with each other on all points. You are not in charge here, and your constant attacks have no bearing on other peoples’ views, opinions, or ideals. All that you have accomplished here, is to polarize this board along national lines, and to spew your hatred and contempt of others on an almost daily basis for well over four years now.”
What a dumbass grehggie. Get a life or go see your therapist. You stalk and prick and I moderate it. You just got neutered you whining bisexual loser.
Davy on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 6:35 pm
“I do not need to try to put those down or call them names because they do not agree with my vision. Putdowns are the method of an immature, arrogant, loser, for whom I have no respect.”
Please billy, spare me the whining. You are the most disrespectful person on this forum. This forum is polluted by your hate and nastiness daily and excessively then you have the bold face to whine like a victim. What a pussy. You are getting neutered prick and that is what happens. Moderate your extremism and we won’t have this problem. For being an old man you sure act like a child.
Davy on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 6:38 pm
“Greg, Davy is gone. I’m not sure what is posting here, but it is not even close to being rational anymore. I think he is beyond help.”
LOL, sure has your panties in a wad so it is working. Losers act like that they whine and play victim looking for sympathy. Whine to your boyfriend grehggie. He will give you all kinds of warm comments. You guys are quite the couple. Get a room please not in public.
MASTERMIND on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 6:50 pm
ggg
MASTERMIND on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 6:53 pm
Davy
Just ignore Mad kat and greg they are just two paranoid and fear full idiots! once the collapse happens they are both dead fucking meat! They know that deep down! That is why when I hit them with the facts and science they deny it and attack the messenger!
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 6:56 pm
2020s To Be A Decade of Disorder For Oil
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/2020s-To-Be-A-Decade-of-Disorder-For-Oil.html
GregT on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 8:48 pm
“That is why when I hit them with the facts and science they deny it and attack the messenger!”
None of the reports that you have linked to, come to the same conclusions as you have, as has been pointed out numerous times before.
You are a liar MM, and completely full of BS.
GregT on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 8:58 pm
“Whine to your boyfriend grehggie.”
Do you honestly believe that grown adults are bothered by your childish little names?
Most normally adjusted people grow out of that stage by the time they become teenagers.
Mad Kat on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 9:00 pm
I think the ‘super genius’ MM (sarcasm) has a problem in comprehension. It is very similar to his alter ego, Davy. Both seem have no grasp on reality. Fun to read, but easy to ignore.
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 10:39 pm
Greg!
Kick rocks you ignorant blowhard!
What happened to bring it on? HAHA I pulled your bitch cord! LOL Just shows what a true pussy you are when the pressure is on! You fold like a paper bag! You are fucked when the limits to growth (Meadows, 1972) economic collapse hits!
Tick Tock!
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 10:41 pm
Greg
Don’t worry you can always trim some fat off of your ole ladies ass to eat for dinner when the shops are all looted!
GregT on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 11:03 pm
“Just shows what a true pussy you are when the pressure is on! You fold like a paper bag!”
No pressure at all, and I don’t imagine there will be for at least another decade or so, probably much longer than that. I suspect things will really be dire around the time you’re my age. I’ll likely already be dead and buried by then.
GregT on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 11:08 pm
“Don’t worry you can always trim some fat off of your ole ladies ass to eat for dinner when the shops are all looted!”
My wife is a long distance runner MM. The last half marathon she ran was the summer before last.
We aren’t planning on going anywhere near any shops any time soon. Neither of us are particularly fond of densely populated areas, for obvious reasons.
Mad Kat on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 11:23 pm
Greg, do we have another MM clone? Split personality? Davy, MM and now Mob? lol
GregT on Sun, 28th Jan 2018 11:29 pm
Same severely messed up individual Mad Kat.
Mad Kat on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 12:52 am
Greg, if that is so, I just checked for the 28th and one of the three were posting constantly, except for a three hour and a two and one half hour break in that 24 hour period. However, there were no two posts close together time wise. All a few minutes apart or more. At least 37 posts in that 24 hour period. Definitely psycho!
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 1:58 am
Greg several decades? LOL you are so naive and have zero evidence to back that wishful thought up! I have submitted several pieces of evidence that shows that is impossible! once the oil shortages hit that is ball game! Per IEA and Saudis!
Mad Kat on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 2:21 am
Mob, the “shortages will peter out over time, not suddenly. It may take decades. Not in a few weeks or years. Too much already in place. YOU might not be able to buy any, but it will be there for industry, military and government. Only your lifestyle will be 3rd world.
GregT on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 2:23 am
Anybody who believes that he is ‘moderating’, ‘neutering’, or in control of other peoples’ thoughts, beliefs, ideals, or opinions, is one fucked up individual Mad Kat. The sock puppetry is an act of desperation, just like the name calling, childish rhetoric, and delusional accusations. I wouldn’t take anything that this guy? says at face value, whoever he really is.
One thing for certain, he isn’t anything that he has repeatedly pretended to be. My best guess is that he is in a psych ward somewhere, and somehow managed to gain internet access. A complete freaking nut bar. Expect many more years of the exact same bullshit, unless somebody finally gets the guy under control. Which isn’t at all likely.
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 2:25 am
Mad Kat
We need oil for everything, military, governments, public, and industries! you can’t just hoard it for one or the other! You are just scared so you are not accepting what is going to happen! Once the oil shortage hits that is ballgame! Wall street will shit bricks like a mother fucker! And it will be a fast crash collapse!
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 2:38 am
3 years till Anarchy!
German Military (leaked) Peak Oil study: oil is used in the production of 95% of all industrial goods, so a shortage of oil would collapse the world economy & world governments
http://www.energybulletin.net/sites/default/files/Peak%20Oil_Study%20EN.pdf
And dont worry Mad kat and Greg your chest pounding “Bring it on”! Trust me it will be brought! LOL
GregT on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 2:43 am
“once the oil shortages hit that is ball game!”
The oil shortages hit in the US in 1973, and have hit many other regions around the world since then.
When global peak production is reached, around one half of all of the oil in the world will still be left. If you for one second believe that those hundreds of billions of barrels of oil will be left in the ground, you are far less intelligent than just your average garden variety idiot. There is far more than enough coal, oil, and natural gas, to cause a global mass extinction event on this planet, within your natural lifetime.
“I have submitted several pieces of evidence that shows that is impossible!”
I have repeatedly provided quotes from your ‘submitted evidence’ that are in complete contradiction to your continued willful ignorance and stupidity.
GregT on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 2:58 am
“And dont worry Mad kat and Greg your chest pounding “Bring it on”! Trust me it will be brought! LOL”
You have continually displayed a complete lack of intelligence MM, and personally, I wouldn’t even consider you to be even remotely smart.
You are a complete idiot dude, totally brain dead. Not even worthy of anybody with an IQ over 100’s time.
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 3:00 am
Greg
Cherry picking doesnt disproves a paper greg..Only in your deluded Jesus fantasy world! LOL It doesnt matter if we have half the supplies left because once we have a shortage we cant grow global GDP! And it will cause a limits to growth Economic collapse! Just like the German Army study concluded as well! And the Korwitz paper as well!..
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 3:03 am
Greg
Sticks and stones! From someone who isn’t even intelligent of creative to come up with a clever handle! Hell I even came up with Mad Kat’s handle! All you do is bitch and moan about others on this blog! you add nothing of substance ever! You are just an old crusty boomer! Who is going to get his shit kicked in by someone of my age soon enough! And Daddy wont be able to bail you out!
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 3:09 am
People are almost completely ignoring a looming crisis for oil
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-future-of-oil-supply-and-demand-2016-9
People deny the peak oil supply shortages because its just to scary for them. Its like saying there is going to be a food or water shortage! They can’t handle the thought! its just unthinkable! I know many will still be denying even when the lights go out! They will blame the Muslims or Russians! They will swear there is still plenty of oil and it was all set up on purpose by the deep state or some other conspiratorial idiocy! They will tell their kids! We still have 100’s of years of oil sonny boy! The globalist just wanted to depopulate the planet so they are not drilling on purpose! It was those evil Koch brothers!
GregT on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 3:13 am
One of my best friends was diagnosed with terminal pancreatic cancer three weeks ago MM. She will die at 10:00 am this coming Friday morning. Doctor assisted suicide. It is going to happen to every single one of us, there is no getting out alive.
You are nothing more than an insignificant, immature, ‘the sky s falling’, chicken little.
Grow the fuck up, loser.
pat on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 4:52 am
“People deny the peak oil supply shortages because its just to scary for them. Its like saying there is going to be a food or water shortage! They can’t handle the thought! its just unthinkable! I know many will still be denying even when the lights go out!” the world is at the end of oil era. now it is getting even more clearer and confirm that the global dominant energy of growth, activity is ending even much faster than any ever imagined. the global dominant energy, the last remaining black glue, expensive, hard to get, low eroei, unconventional and the highly overstated are exhausting at unprecedented pace and already seeing the signals of oil shortages. worlds capacity to meet the ever increasing, rising demand is curbed due limits of nature, geopolitical. . prepare…
Mad Kat on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 4:52 am
Greg, My condolences. I lost a good fried to a similar cancer about 20 years ago. A long, painful death then. I lost my boyhood best friend about 10 years ago from another cancer caused by along life of tobacco. He was only a week older than I and our mothers were high school friends.
As we get older more and more of our past dies. It could be depressing, but not so much if we have a future to look forward to and plan for. If we make new friends. Try new places and things. That is my current adventure.
After the SHTF, meds will likely get scarce or not be available at all. But, that is life. We all have the same end.
Davy on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 6:03 am
“Anybody who believes that he is ‘moderating’, ‘neutering’, or in control of other peoples’ thoughts, beliefs, ideals, or opinions, is one fucked up individual Mad Kat.”
It working great with your numbnutness. Mr. grehggieT the one that demands respect and is the board psychoanalyst that has a therapist. The therapist is likely form stalking and pricking. WTF, dumbass do you think you do when you stalk and prick? Duh Duh dumb Canadian think about that. What a piece of work. Your double standards and holier than thou shit is lame.
“The sock puppetry is an act of desperation, just like the name calling, childish rhetoric, and delusional accusations. I wouldn’t take anything that this guy? says at face value, whoever he really is.”
More double standards and at least I don’t tell people to commit suicide. Is that how you deal with problems up in BC? Do you tell them go ahead and do it?
“One thing for certain, he isn’t anything that he has repeatedly pretended to be. My best guess is that he is in a psych ward somewhere, and somehow managed to gain internet access. “
Well you yourself have said here and it is documented that you have a therapist. I guess for sexual deviations. Nothing wrong with being bisexual but I am sure it is an issue with your honesty and integrity being married. Are you a cheater grehggieT?
“A complete freaking nut bar. Expect many more years of the exact same bullshit, unless somebody finally gets the guy under control. Which isn’t at all likely.”
LMFAO, I really got to you and that is MISSION ACOMPLISHED! What a whining piece of shit and worthy of a good clock cleaning.
Davy on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 6:09 am
“Grow the fuck up, loser.”
Shut up greggie with the Canadian “fucks” can’t you people make a sentence without saying fuck. I thought Mr board respectable didn’t call people names? HYPOCRITE
Davy on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 6:13 am
Greg, My condolences. I lost a good fried to a similar cancer about 20 years ago.
Billy, this is not a personal chat board. Since you and grehggieT are in a digital relationship get his book face number and talk to him there we don’t need your sad stories especially since the both of you are horrible people. stay on topic please
“As we get older more and more of our past dies. It could be depressing, but not so much if we have a future to look forward to and plan for. If we make new friends. Try new places and things. That is my current adventure.”
More of billy’s denial of death and self-praise. You are sickening billy. Please move to your jungle old folk’s home.
Mad Kat on Mon, 29th Jan 2018 6:21 am
Davy, you are a disgrace to the human species. Hate burns in your heart and jealousy is eating you up. Greed is part of your lifestyle as is arrogance, stupidity and immorality.
You can’t seem to see that you need serious help before you do something really stupid like ‘going postal’ at some hillbilly get together. Maybe Greg and I will read about it in the news someday soon. It seems to be the path you are on. You are really mentally sick.