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Chris Nelder interviews Colin Campbell: A Return to Regionalism
Is “peak oil” still something to be concerned about, and if so, what does depletion of conventional oil supply suggest about our future? Our guest in this episode certainly thinks peak oil will be a key factor in the decades ahead, and he foresees a future in which humanity must downsize significantly, both in total population and in the energy intensity of our lifestyles. He believes we’ll have no choice but to return to a more regionally focused way of life, depending on local resources, and doing a lot less travel and shipping. As one of the co-founders of the Association for the Study of Peak Oil, Colin Campbell’s view on the importance of oil to the global economy, and his vision of geological limits leading to declining oil production, has never wavered. And as a petroleum geologist with four decades of experience in finding and producing oil, including performing some of the first experiments with fracking, his knowledge of oil geology is unparalleled. His cautionary perspective serves to highlight the urgency of energy transition, because there are more reasons we need it to succeed in addition to eliminating carbon emissions, otherwise, oil scarcity may yet become a key factor in determining what our futures hold.
On the Web: Petroleum Analysis Centre
Recording date: July 22, 2019
Air date: September 4, 2019
Geek rating: 4
70 Comments on "Chris Nelder interviews Colin Campbell: A Return to Regionalism"
Cloggie on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 7:02 am
World’s largest water electrolyzer planned in Hamburg.
https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/technik/wasserstoff-elektrolyse-hamburg-plant-weltgroesste-anlage-im-hafen-a-1285352.html
Size 100 MW = 2000 kg H2/hour
Final decision end 2019.
Current largest installation 10 MW.
Similar initiatives are underway in the Netherlands. Both countries intend to cooperate in this field.
The issue of storage can no longer be postponed.
Anonymous on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 7:48 am
Campbell is hiding behind the peak conventional oil game. However many of his old ASPO charts included everything, even NGLS. Also, Jean Laherre has said they only considered tar sands or oil shale (not shale oil) as unconventional in 1998.
He does admit being wrong about fracking but the interviewer does not dwell on it or explore it. Just some in-club remarks about how people make too much of fracking. But no exploration of what happened and how Campbell missed it.
Also, Chris neglects to ask Campbell about previous bad predictions. (In 86, he predicted people oil by the “late 80s”.)
To his credit, Campbell also volunteers having underestimated EOR. Chris asks how much further it could go, but doesn’t ask why Campbell was too negative.
Given his age, it’s hard to expect much more from Campbell. And the interview is something, for sure. I just would have liked a bit more probing.
Once on the Chris site, I noticed that he said there were 100+ podcasts, but he’d done 90 straight without covering peak oil. He seems to really have pivoted hard out of peak oil. Has Nelder done his intellectual duty to revisit his own bad calls?
There was a Mason Inman podcast from 2016. I tried to listen to it, but at 2 hours…and very slow paced, with no outline of the content, I just couldn’t wade through it.
jef on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 8:25 am
All of what was said over the last 10 to 15 years about peak oil is still true today yet all anybody can talk about is “bad calls”.
Oil production is peaking all around the world. Mexico is no longer an exporter…hello! Big deal.
The world is doing little to prepare for what is coming. We are doing some things but not even a drop in the bucket compared to what needs to be done and it is primarily because people treat peak oil like it was a fad. Now you are laughed at if you even talk about it.
Sure we have fracking. It is not clear that it is even cost effective and it is very bad environmentally but it could have been used to transition. Instead it is used to ramp up growth and expansion ultimately making the downside of peak oil worse.
But hey…the only thing that matters is who will be the one to accurately call the exact date it all starts to go to shit. I still say it was 2005.
marmico on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 8:52 am
Nony, what I don’t get is why Campbell/Laherrere, with a combined 90 years of experience in geology and oil production, don’t understand that human ingenuity has trumped depletion.
It’s always, well there is more ultimate recoverable resource than I postulated last year, so I extend my peak oil supply date to next year ad nauseum. As the economists say – technology and price matters.
So do you think it will be peak supply or peak demand?
claes on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 9:08 am
Clogg, we I the windy northern europe often have a surplus of wind eletricity which conviniently could be transformed into f.ex. hydrogene.
“The issue of storage can no longer be postponed”. Please give us a link explaning where we are now concerning storage of hydrogene.
I personally don’t like hydrogene in the transportation sector, but other purposes could be relevant.
Cloggie on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 10:14 am
“Please give us a link explaning where we are now concerning storage of hydrogene.”
In general:
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/category/hydrogen/
A selection:
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2017/12/11/high-temperature-electrolysis/
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2019/01/12/hydrogen-from-electrolysis-now-cost-competitive/
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2017/12/28/700-mw-renewable-hydrogen-plant-to-be-built-in-france/
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2019/01/28/the-emerging-dutch-hydrogen-economy/
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2018/12/15/worlds-first-hydrogen-train-operational-in-germany/
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2018/07/14/the-netherlands-is-placing-its-bets-on-the-hydrogen-economy/
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2019/01/27/nabh4-the-vice-admiral-has-a-message-for-dutch-parliament/
Cloggie on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 10:22 am
After offshore, now onshore wind farms can be built without subsidy as well:
https://cleantechnica.com/2019/09/03/scottish-developers-announce-subsidy-free-onshore-wind-farm/
“Scottish Developers Announce Subsidy-Free Onshore Wind Farm”
Cloggie on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 10:25 am
Chinese energy company Envision believes in 100% renewable energy for Envision itself before 2025:
https://cleantechnica.com/2019/09/03/envision-sets-most-ambitious-100-renewable-energy-target-for-mainland-china/
“Envision Sets Most Ambitious 100% Renewable Energy Target For Mainland China”
peakyeast on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 10:53 am
Even IEA that normally is overly optimistic predicted that fracking will only postpone events with about a decade. IOW its over soon.
claes on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 11:21 am
Clogg, thanks for the links.
Talking About regionalism, it turns out that black africans are just as racist as their white favorite hate object.
“Nigerian artists such as Tiwa Savage and Burna Boy have announced that they are setting up scheduled concerts in South Africa and the fear of revenge attacks is causing South African artists to now stage gigs in other African countries.”
South african negroes don’t want other african tribes into their land.
They don’t even want whites, so what have we got here?
We got a black population that has so much to thank the white left for their liberation. It has now turned into the first and most racistic country in africa.
Congrats to the marxist left.
claes on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 12:00 pm
African nationalism is on the rise. The genocide in Rwuanda was a 800.000 killing spree done entirely by black people. Civil wars in Congo is 100% internal black affairs with huge numbers of civilian deaths.
The outing of the Rohingyas in Myanmar is an 100% internal myanmar affair. The suppression of Tibetans and Uighurs in china is a 100% Chinese affair.
White people are not involved in any of these racistic and tribal genocides. Yet white people are blamed for being deeply rasistic and supremacists, while nobody has any focus on the real culprits all over the world, thanks to the marxist lefts anti-white propaganda.
Europe and the USA has taken in fugitives and people in need for many decades, and yet these white societies are being blamed for racism and supremacy thougths.
Maybe the white race SHOULD start cirkling the wagons. All sensible nations are doing it.
Duncan Idaho on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 12:11 pm
“Three-fourths of philosophy & literature is the talk of people trying to convince themselves that they really like the cage they were tricked into entering.”
— Gary Snyder,
Cloggie on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 12:38 pm
“South african negroes don’t want other african tribes into their land.
They don’t even want whites, so what have we got here?”
One of the first tasks of an integrated EU army could very well be stopping an anti-white genocide in South-Africa and evacuation of millions of “Boers”.
And then there is Australia, China is preying on.
All rehearsals for the real meat: North-America.
Cloggie on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 12:41 pm
Start digging:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7432223/Boris-Johnson-says-dead-ditch-delay-Brexit.html
“’I’d rather be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit’: Boris Johnson fuels speculation he will QUIT if he loses fresh bid to force snap election as it emerges he will see the Queen at Balmoral TOMORROW”
Dear Britis friends, here some friendly advice from Holland: bring back mrs May. She was right all along. Just sign and get the farce over with and recolonize Canada if you have to.
claes on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 12:45 pm
Duncan, and the same goes for religion and political ideas.
Once up on a time the whites were the world’s real bad guys, but now that others have have taken over that role, people still think that the whites are to blame.
Basically human behavior is to blame, when a tribe gets a chance to rule over their neighboors, they will take it. It’s not about whites, chinese, blacks or anybody else – it’s just the human basic instinct to dominate their surroundings.
We are just waiting for the next imperialistic tribe/race to enter the scene and dominate the world for better or worse.
At that time some might think back to the good old times when the drunk funny white pigs where in charge, instead of the booring, narrowminded yellow/red pigs.
Time will show
Cloggie on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 1:32 pm
“We are just waiting for the next imperialistic tribe/race to enter the scene and dominate the world for better or worse.”
That would be the Chinese.
1.4 billion IQ100 Chinese can and must and will be balanced by 640 million Europeans + those North-Americans who identify as Europeans.
The rest can “Brasilianize”.
Dredd on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 1:38 pm
“On a finite planet, the only way a finite resource such as oil can become infinite is through propaganda.” – Dredd
I AM THE MOB on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 1:59 pm
Italy kicks out far-right leader Salvini as new government is sworn in
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/itay-government-coalition-oust-far-right-matteo-salvini-five-star-movement-pd-league-a9092876.html
Populism is collapsing. The swan song of the most ignorant generation in history ie boomers.
claes on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 2:12 pm
Clogg, If we should take a deeper look into history, then the romans were extremly good at technology and organisation, while their elite culture was sucking up to the good old greek culture.
Something like that might happen in the future for the west.
The chinese will be extremly good at technology and organisation, while their elites will adore western philosophy, art,music and intellectual capacity.
To the chinese the westeners will always be the ones that invented modern life and thinking, and therefore they will be kind of posh.
Just look at a modern chinese city. if it wasn’t for the chinese letters, you wouldn’t know it was an east asian town. They are allready thoroughly westernized.
They like us, but they feel that we are kind of amateurs when it comes to organizing, and they do have a plan for organizing the entire planet. Just like the romans organized the “Mare Nostrum” (with surroundings).
” Those who don’t know history are bound to repeat it. But those who know history are bound to stand helpless watching while the others repeat it”.
I AM THE MOB on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 2:18 pm
Clogg the hog!
Doesn’t have a job and can’t get laid. So he has to join an extremist cult to be accepted.
Clogg is the kind the hate that emerges from crushed dreams.
lol
I AM THE MOB on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 2:36 pm
‘This Is Incredible,’ Says Corbyn, as Voter Registration Surges Amid Boris Johnson’s Chaotic Lurch Towards UK General Election
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/09/05/incredible-says-corbyn-voter-registration-surges-amid-boris-johnsons-chaotic-lurch
claes on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 2:39 pm
Mop, if it wasn’t for your western culture you would be living happily in a straw cottage somewhere, shouting obscenities at your village companions.
Cloggie on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 2:43 pm
“To the chinese the westeners will always be the ones that invented modern life and thinking, and therefore they will be kind of posh.”
I don’t think they hate us either or that they want to overrun us… unless that would be provoked by extreme weakness from our side. I think that with a credible defense from our side, we can have a multipolar world arrangement, with Greater Europe and China the carrying pillars.
Cloggie on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 2:45 pm
“Populism is collapsing. The swan song of the most ignorant generation in history ie boomers.”
At what time will the folk dancing begin in Old MacDonalds barn in Middlevile?
supremacist muzzie monkey on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 3:07 pm
You don’t think I know you superior
I’m superior to 3 yo so I don’t bother them
Your superior to supremacist muzzie so u love then
Your love is less than John Haines and his love for muzzie more than his kids. I never want to be in position I wish I see my mom more.
So Allah. Made you the best of humanity non muzzie are losers”
One reason I stopped using loser for insult
claes on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 3:15 pm
clogg, I kind of agree with you, but maybe we should try to get Russia into the european clubb before it’s too late.
Since the mongol invasion in the thirteenth hundred, russia has been Europes guard dog to the east. I cannot see that this has changed throug the centuries. And I do think that Europa needs Russia, just like Russia do need western Europe, because alone Russia has no chance of keeping Sibiria in the long run.
Some how in the future Russia and the rest of Europa must allign their interests when it comes to ethnicity, culture and territory. Without a mutual understanding of common interests we all know who will be
taking over.
supremacist muzzie monkey on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 3:23 pm
I hope I didn’t drive little big brother joe away
I did nuff damage supertard rock
‘Lo you must wear dress pee sitting down because you’re supremacist muzzie
claes on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 3:29 pm
clogg, when you said “Greater Europe”, did you include Russia in it ? Well, if you did then we totally agree.
Cloggie on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 3:38 pm
“clogg, when you said “Greater Europe”, did you include Russia in it ? Well, if you did then we totally agree.”
I did.
I’m a neo-Gaullist:
https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/12/03/paris-berlin-moscow/
https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2018/05/10/boreas-rising-paris-berlin-moscow/
https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/09/26/which-future-world/
supremacist muzzie monkey on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 3:39 pm
You don’t think I know you superior
Your superior to supremacist muzzie so u love then
I did nuff damage supertard rock
I’m superior to 3 yo so I don’t bother them
‘Lo you must wear dress pee sitting down because you’re supremacist muzzie
So Allah. Made you the best of humanity non muzzie are losers”
Your love is less than John Haines and his love for muzzie more than his kids. I never want to be in position I wish I see my mom more.
One reason I stopped using loser for insult
I hope I didn’t drive little big brother joe away
‘Lo you must wear dress pee sitting down because you’re supremacist muzzie
supremacist muzzie monkey on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 3:44 pm
You think I don’t know you know supremacist muzzie caliph Erdogan want to flood muzzie to Germany
And build nukular bomba
I know u know
Harquebus on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 4:00 pm
Those that deny peak oil do not understand it.
The slowing global economy might be fossil fueled but, it is payed for by credit.
When the credit cards stop working, the economic facade that has been hiding the effects of peak oil for the last decade and a half, will collapse and all the dire peak oil warnings that have been made will occur simultaneously.
Economy, energy and environment. They are related.
The energy guzzling growth economy is destroying our environment and it is all being done courtesy of the credit card.
Cheers.
claes on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 4:16 pm
clogg, kind of like the word “Eurosphere”.
Maybe we should circle the wagons around the northern temperate zone, and stand our ground in the Taiga and the equivalent in Northern America. It suits my temperament.
supremacist muzzie monkey on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 5:49 pm
just so you know, I am spending less time on this lame unmoderated forum to concentrate on my own REAL GREEN blog.
I’m not impressed with this unmoderated forum
i too saw a muzzie supremacist monkey in dress today, i’m gonna club the muzzie if he holds up my bathroom line peeing sitting down
foget alex jones and bohemian grove, i have my own bigger badder better creamaton of care almos every day of the week, my italian wife loves th eman cave
makati1 on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 6:16 pm
Americans use 2+ gallons of oil per day.
Philippines use ~2 cups per day.
Who will be hurting the most?
makati1 on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 6:21 pm
Worth posting again: “The West Oppressed the Third World for so Long that It Became Third World Itself”
“Bridges, subways, inner cities, everything is crumbling, falling apart. When I used to live in New York City, more than two decades ago, returning from Japan was shocking: the US felt like a poor, deprived country, full of problems, misery, of confused and depressed people, homeless individuals; in short – desperados. Now, I feel the same when I land in the US after spending some time in China.
And it gets much worse. What the West used to accuse the Soviet Union of, is now actually clearly detectable in the United States and the United Kingdom themselves: surveillance is at every step, these days; in New York, London, Sydney, and even in the countryside. Every move a person makes, every purchase, every computer click, is registered; somewhere, somehow. And this monitoring is, mostly, not even illegal.”
https://www.globalresearch.ca/west-oppressed-third-world-it-became-third-world-itself/5688022
It’s difficult to feel the water getting gradually hotter when you are in the pot from the start. Soon to hit the boiling point. Get out now!
Davy on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 7:31 pm
“Slave to sachets: How poverty worsens the plastics crisis in the Philippines”
https://tinyurl.com/y2xnfuwv rueters
“No one lives on the island, yet each morning its shores are covered in garbage, much of it single-use sachets of shampoo, toothpaste, detergent and coffee that are carried out to sea by the rivers of overcrowded Manila. These packets give some of the poorest people in Asia access to everyday household essentials. For the multinationals that manufacture them, it’s a way to increase sales by targeting customers who cannot afford bigger quantities. Such sachets are sold in most developing countries but the number consumed in the Philippines is staggering – 163 million pieces a day, according to a recent study by environment group The Global Alliance for Incinerator Alternatives (GAIA). That’s almost 60 billion sachets a year, or enough to cover 130,000 soccer fields. In Manila’s slum areas which are inaccessible to garbage trucks, sachets and other waste are thrown in estuaries or dumped on the street, and end up clogging drains and waterways… About 14 million people live in Metro Manila, one of Asia’s teeming mega-cities. Overall, the Philippines has a population of 107 million people, and one-fifth of them live below the national poverty line, described by the statistics agency as monthly consumption of less than $241 per person. In sea-facing Manila, much of the trash ends up in the sea. The Philippines, Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam and China account for 60 percent of the world’s marine plastic, or 8 million tonnes annually, according to the Ocean Conservancy non-profit. Environmentalists say the main culprits aren’t governments or consumers, but the multinationals that churn out plastic packaging.”
supremacist muzzie monkey on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 8:31 pm
thank you Big GREEN for the balanced piece of news
“Slave to sachets: How
it seems makaturd country of refuge is not forraging as much for food or practicing permacultism to step down from consumerism
supremacist muzzie monkey on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 8:38 pm
wow the number is staggering makaturd
and BIG GOAT is quoting the article saying it’s surburbs of manilia – that’s wher eyou live
the problem is lacking infastructure becuase it’s a 3rd world. once garbage accumulates there’s no way to clear it.
hey makaturd, big goat pbuh doesn’t do engineerig like this because he’s 1st world
https://assets.rappler.com/612F469A6EA84F6BAE882D2B94A4B421/img/6997DD66374946988A51117225850549/power-luzon-carousel-20140623.jpg
supremacist muzzie monkey on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 9:04 pm
just so u guyse know i spend less time on this lame unmoderated forum, i’d rather spend time on my blog. i’m BIG GOAT pbuh and i have higher standard than that. i spend time with my italian wife.
“lo allah crated a supremacist muzzie monkey who pee sitting down and hold up the bathroom line”
i googl for “muzzie urianl”
https://cpnagasaki.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/558211_485380171553814_1068994374_n.png
muzzie say haram – you can be killed for this
https://madworldnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/muslimurinalfeature.jpg
makati1 on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 9:18 pm
Supre… you and Davy personally know shit about the Philippines, other than USMSM propaganda. Come and see the real Philippines, then visit your Scat Francisco or Lost Angeles. The US is already known world wide for its slums…called homeless…its drug use and poverty, not to mention shit on the streets. Amerika is the laughing stock of the rest of the world.
Deny you may, but consequences, you cannot avoid. They are coming and soon. LOL
supremacist muzzie monkey on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 9:25 pm
now imama supertard glenn roberts reporting big muzzie FGM nASTY is in trouble because ex muzzie husband revealed previous marriage to brother!
better go back to Somalia for stoning than facing jails here.
Sissyfuss on Thu, 5th Sep 2019 9:58 pm
There a two basic roles to be played in society, prisoner or warden.
juan paultard madness on Fri, 6th Sep 2019 3:59 am
Apparently, the expcetionaltard does not own what we call a ‘clock’ himself. If he did, he would discover he makes plenty of posts at all sorts of, weird hour, off-hour times himself.
juan paultard madness on Fri, 6th Sep 2019 4:00 am
supremacist muzzie monkey said Open defecation, practiced by 7 million people in…
supremacist muzzie monkey said now imama supertard glenn roberts reporting big mu…
supremacist muzzie monkey said just so u guyse know i spend less time on this lam…
supremacist muzzie monkey said wow the number is staggering makaturd and BIG GOAT…
supremacist muzzie monkey said thank you Big GREEN for the balanced piece of news…
Robert Inget on Fri, 6th Sep 2019 10:08 am
“As much as 90% of world energy use comes from fossil sources. Meanwhile in 2017, only 0.7% of global energy use derived from solar power and 1.9% from wind. So why is the long-anticipated transition to renewable energy not materializing?”
Most of the world’s billions don’t live in 1600 sq ft 3 bedroom 3 bath houses. W/ grass lawns. But, you knew that.
Most folks live paycheck to paycheck.
That’s EXACTLY the way we, the ruling class, want it.
The more debt created the more ‘growth’ created.
Solar and wind energy is growing all right.
But alts may never make up that 90%.differential.
Mike Lynch on Fri, 6th Sep 2019 11:30 am
Funny podcast. Colin admits he was wrong about recovery factors not increasing, doesn’t seem to realize that means his model, and Jean’s creaming curves, were thus invalid.
Cloggie on Fri, 6th Sep 2019 12:01 pm
22 million e-vehicles in the next 10 years:
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/06/cars/volkswagen-electric-cars/index.html
“Volkswagen’s electric future is quickly taking shape”
Cloggie on Fri, 6th Sep 2019 12:05 pm
Exactly what we need:
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/06/health/india-woman-73-gives-birth-scli-intl/index.html
“Indian woman gives birth to twins at age of 73”
India’s underpopulation problem on the verge of being solved.
Cloggie on Fri, 6th Sep 2019 12:11 pm
Apparently BoJo to be “found dead in a ditch” is next:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/sep/06/brexit-boris-johnson-news-latest-eu-labour-confirms-it-will-not-vote-on-monday-night-for-early-election-live-newsbior
“Brexit: bill intended to block no deal to become law after being passed by House of Lords – as it happened”
The UK leaving the EU without a deal is off the table… unless the EU pulls the plug.