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Can growth continue?

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gave a five-minute talk talk for Ignite Long Now 2022. It’s a simplified and very condensed treatment of a complex topic:

Below is a transcript with selected visuals and added links.


Humanity has had a pretty good run so far. In the last two hundred years, world GDP per capita has increased by almost fourteen times:

But “past performance may not be indicative of future results.” Can growth continue?

One argument against long-term growth is that we will run out of resources. Malthus worried about running out of farm land, Jevons warned that Britain would run out of coal, and Hubbert called Peak Oil.

Fears of shortages lead to fears of “overpopulation”. If resources are static, then they have to be divided into smaller and smaller shares for more and more people. In the 1960s, this led to dire predictions of famine and depredation:

But predictions of catastrophic shortages virtually never come true. Agricultural productivity has grown faster than Malthus realized was possible. And oil production, after a temporary decline, recently hit at an all-time high:

Wikimedia / Plazak

One reason is that predictions of shortages are based on conservative estimates from only proven reserves. Another is that when a resource really is running out, we transition off of it—as, in the 1800s, we switched our lighting from whale oil to kerosene.

But the deeper reason is that there’s really no such thing as a natural resource. All resources are artificial. They are a product of technology. And economic growth is ultimately driven, not by material resources, but by ideas.

In the 20th century, the crucial role of ideas was confirmed by formal economic models. The economist Robert Solow was studying how output per worker increases as we accumulate capital, such as machines and factories. There are diminishing returns to capital accumulation alone. A single worker who is given two machines can’t be twice as productive. So if technology is static, output per worker soon stops growing:

Marginal Revolution University

But technology acts as a multiplier on productivity. This makes each worker more productive, and creates more headroom for capital accumulation:

Marginal Revolution University

So we can have economic growth if, and only if, we have technological progress.

How does this happen? Another economist, Paul Romer, pointed out the key feature of ideas: In economic terms, they are “nonrival”. Unlike a loaf of bread, or a machine, an invention or an equation can be shared by everyone. If we double the number of workers we have and double the machines they use, we will merely double their output, which is the same output per worker. But if we also double the power of technology, we will more than double output, making everyone richer. Physical resources have to be divided up, so as the population grows, the per-capita stock of resources shrinks. But ideas do not. The per-capita stock of ideas is the total stock of ideas.

So we won’t run out of resources, as long as we keep generating new ideas. But—will we run out of ideas?

Romer assumed that the technology multiplier would grow exponentially at a rate proportional to the number of researchers. But another economist, Chad Jones, pointed out that in the 20th century, we have vastly increased R&D, while growth rates have been flat or even declining. This is evidence that ideas have been getting harder to find:

Bloom, Jones, Van Reenen, and Webb, “Are Ideas Getting Harder to Find?” (2020)

Does this mean inevitable stagnation? Maybe we have already picked all the low-hanging fruit. Maybe research is like mining for ideas, and the vein is running thin. Maybe inventions are like fish in a pond, and the pond is getting fished out. But notice that all these metaphors treat ideas like physical resources! And I think it’s a mistake to call “peak ideas”, just as it’s always been a mistake to call peak resources.

One reason, as Paul Romer pointed out, is that the space of ideas is combinatorially vast. The number of potential molecular compounds, or the number of possible DNA sequences, is astronomical. We have barely begun to explore.

And even as ideas get harder to find, we get better at finding them. As the population and the economy grow, we can devote more brains and more investment to R&D. And technologies like spreadsheets or the Internet make researchers more productive.

In fact, the greatest threat to long-term economic growth might be the slowdown in population growth:

Our World in Data

Without more brains to push technology forward, progress might stall.

Now, that’s a problem for another time. But note that in five minutes we’ve gone from worrying about overpopulation to underpopulation. That’s because we’ve traded a scarcity mindset, where growth is limited by resources, for an abundance mindset, where it is limited only by our ingenuity.


Thanks to Brady Forrest and the Long Now Foundation for inviting me to speak.

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58 Comments on "Can growth continue?"

  1. Duncan Idaho on Thu, 2nd Jun 2022 9:57 pm 

    makati–
    How is the PI for you?
    My stepsister just returned back to Guam–
    Got covid but is ok.

  2. FamousDrScanlon on Fri, 3rd Jun 2022 1:08 pm 

    clog, 2nd picture down is from Utrecht. My people have friends there.

    https://www.okotoks.ca/your-community/amenities/cultural-art-facilities/museum-archives/virtual-exhibits/75th-0

  3. makati1 on Fri, 3rd Jun 2022 4:43 pm 

    Duncan, you could not pay me a million dollars to move back to the US. I have all I need here and friends, not internet pretends. Netflix, a well stocked library of my fave books and DVDs, etc. Summer weather year round. I could go on and on…

    Prices are also going up here, but we buy local as much as possible and not imports. With a hog farm, a chicken ranch and a fish port all withing 10 kilometers, we don’t need beef.

    What do I miss? Family and a few friends but they can visit me. We keep in touch by internet.

    It was the best decision I ever made. Hoping to visit Thailand soon.

    BTW: Been jabbed with the Sinovax twice. No side effects. None of that Pfizer experimental junk for me. I’m 78 and healthy.

  4. Baby Peanut on Fri, 3rd Jun 2022 5:46 pm 

    1. Jason Crawford: “predictions of catastrophic shortages virtually never come true.” TRANSLATION: “oil will never run out because it has never run out before.”
    2. Jason Crawford: technology is the magic stuff that makes everything better. COUNTERPOINT: things are so very great now because of technology, right?

  5. peakyeast on Fri, 3rd Jun 2022 7:15 pm 

    “But note that in five minutes we’ve gone from worrying about overpopulation to underpopulation.”

    It would probably be more correct to say:

    “But note that in five minutes I’ve gone from worrying about overpopulation to underpopulation.”

  6. JeMoccupeDesTabarnacles on Fri, 3rd Jun 2022 7:26 pm 

    Tu peux débarquer, je m’occupe des tabernacles, la voix dans ma tête a dit.

    Lot of red of his face

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igSyBMYus5A

    Freezing winds to hit NSW

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AHpkAsK–o

    https://electroverse.net/cheyennes-coldest-may-seattles-cold-nw-pollination-woes-jpmorgan-hurricane/

  7. TeamMemberOfCIWillDieOfPainfullFacialSkinCancer on Fri, 3rd Jun 2022 7:40 pm 

    I just left a message to the century initiative team members telling them they have been judged by GOD and sentence to death for the genocide of the White human angelic race.

    https://www.centuryinitiative.ca/

    I think they remove the web page with a list of their team member and picture. I also give them the peak oil web site link. So now they can follow what the son of GOD has to say and how you will be tortured to death.

  8. Biden's hairplug on Sat, 4th Jun 2022 6:19 am 

    2nd picture down is from Utrecht. My people have friends there.

    https://www.okotoks.ca/your-community/amenities/cultural-art-facilities/museum-archives/virtual-exhibits/75th-0

    Like the British, you are living in the past, pall. Your glory days are long behind you. Anglosphere will come to its downfall, meets its own Waterloo, likely before 2030 and COMPLETELY dismember as a result:

    – Australia + New Zealand will be conquered by China
    – The Ukay will fall apart over Brexit
    – US + Canada will balkanize after they get their asses kicked in the South China Sea and the Exceptionalism fairy tale will be over for good.

    Ready for the Anglo-Euro seniority swap?

    You should be, because it is coming.

    We are going to liberate you back.

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