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A tipping point for the global economy
The conflict over oil production between Saudi Arabia and Russia this weekend has sent oil prices plummeting and comes on the heels of growing worries about the spread of coronavirus.
This marks the first time the global economy has been buffeted by simultaneous supply shocks. The two are related. The conflict among oil producers was spawned by a slump in oil demand caused by the spread of coronavirus worldwide and its impact on the global economy.
The combined shocks have sent Treasury yields close to zero and the U.S. stock market near bear territory on the eleventh anniversary of a record bull run. The 7 percent sell-off of the Dow Jones on Monday marked the worst day since the 2008 Global Financial Crisis. Markets are now signaling a tipping point has been reached with the global economy on the cusp of recession.
Last week, the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) already had lowered its projection of 2020 global growth to 2.4 percent, just below the threshold it uses to gauge worldwide recession. This projection assumes the coronavirus epidemic peaks in China this quarter and outbreaks in other countries are mild and contained. The OECD anticipates global growth could drop to 1.5 percent in 2020 if the outbreak is not contained.
Prior to this weekend’s developments, most forecasts for the U.S. economy called for growth to slow this year but for it to avert recession. One reason is the economy gained momentum in the latter part of 2019 in response to Fed easing and the phase one trade deal with China. Also, recent jobs growth has been solid and consumer confidence has stayed high.
Yet, investors now fear a U.S. recession. One reason is a growing number of industries are feeling the fallout of coronavirus, including airlines, cruise lines, transport, hotels, restaurants and other services. With oil prices plummeting, moreover, U.S. shale oil producers once again confront price levels close to break-evens for them, just as they did in 2015.
The situation in financial markets is extremely fluid. While the media have focused on the sell-off in equities, the corporate bond market is critical because it is the principal source of finance for many businesses.
One concern is that liquidity in the corporate bond market has dried up. And credit spreads for corporate borrowers have widened considerably, especially for lower quality issuers. Looking ahead, their access to credit is likely to become limited.
But the current situation is not as bleak as it was in the fall of 2008. The main difference today is financial institutions are better capitalized and less vulnerable to runs.
By now, the Federal Reserve is widely expected to lower interest rates further and ultimately bring them closer to zero. But the impact of Fed rate cuts on the economy will be limited considering how low they are.
It remains to be seen whether investor confidence will be bolstered by further expansion of the Fed’s balance sheet. Some commentators have mentioned the possibility of the Fed purchasing corporate securities. However, even if the Treasury secretary were to sanction it, the feasibility is questionable because the corporate bond market is less liquid than treasuries or agencies.
For these reasons, most economists believe the more effective channel to combat fear of the coronavirus is via fiscal policy and informed health care policy. The Trump administration reportedly is considering a payroll tax cut that could elicit bipartisan support. Beyond this, however, it will be tougher for the two parties to find common ground.
So, where does this leave investors? My take is they should keep several considerations in mind.
First, the fallout from the coronavirus and plummeting oil prices will be temporary, not permanent. In this regard, it is clearly easier for oil producers to reach a compromise that will stabilize prices than it is to halt the spread of coronavirus. But the virus will be contained at some point, hopefully by late spring or summer.
Second, the U.S. economy has proved to be highly resilient to shocks in the past because it is well diversified, both in terms of industries and geographic location of businesses. Even during the 2008 financial crisis, which was the worst the country experienced since the Great Depression, it subsequently went on to experience an enduring recovery and financial prosperity.
The big unknown today is whether policymakers will craft policies that can bolster investor confidence and aid the natural adjustment process. While the stock market rallied on Tuesday’s open, it is likely to remain highly volatile until there is greater clarity on the impact of the coronavirus spread.
132 Comments on "A tipping point for the global economy"
world grater supremacists muzzies love assn on Wed, 11th Mar 2020 7:15 pm
the above is anon my love
JuanP on Wed, 11th Mar 2020 7:21 pm
Stocks Puke Into Bear Market As US Financial Conditions Crash Most ‘Since Lehman’
Mak, I thought you said the virus wasn’t anything? What about the above, dumbass.
Sissyfuss on Wed, 11th Mar 2020 8:03 pm
“But the current situation is not as bleak as it was in the fall of 2008.” No, it’s much bleaker. More debt, a disease shutting down global trade, almost a billion more consumers added to the planet since the crash that was never really dealt with. This is the big one.
makati1 on Wed, 11th Mar 2020 9:04 pm
The virus isn’t much, but the MSM hype is blowing it all out of proportion. Makes you wonder who is behind the hype? The Neocons who see their empire evaporating? What a great way to make that One World dream come to life! A fake pandemic and grab of power. After all, there are many thousand of deaths annually from the regular flu. Same symptoms Same age group involved. A US Fort Detrick bio weapon?
makati1 on Wed, 11th Mar 2020 9:05 pm
I’m watching the US economy disintegrate, Sissyfuss. Along with the rest of the West. 2021 should see a major change in everything and not for the better in the West. I hope you are prepared.
Davy on Wed, 11th Mar 2020 11:51 pm
“The virus isn’t much, but the MSM hype is blowing it all out of proportion. Makes you wonder who is behind the hype? The Neocons who see their empire evaporating? What a great way to make that One World dream come to life! A fake pandemic and grab of power. After all, there are many thousand of deaths annually from the regular flu. Same symptoms Same age group involved. A US Fort Detrick bio weapon?”
Your REAL stupid mak. The hype is REAL. 6 Americans died already dumbass.
The economys gonna crash and WE ALL GONNA DIE!!!
STUPID DUMBASS FUCKWACKS!
Davy on Wed, 11th Mar 2020 11:58 pm
Oops sorry y’all.
We meant to say FUCKWACK! Instead of FUCKWACKS!
dumbasses
JuanP on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 3:26 am
The virus isn’t much, but the MSM hype is blowing it all out of proportion. Makes you wonder who is behind the hype? The Neocons who see their empire evaporating? What a great way to make that One World dream come to life! A fake pandemic and grab of power. After all, there are many thousand of deaths annually from the regular flu. Same symptoms Same age group involved. A US Fort Detrick bio weapon?
Your REAL stupid mak. The hype is REAL. 6 Americans died already dumbass.
The economys gonna crash and WE ALL GONNA DIE!!!
STUPID DUMBASS FUCKWACKS!
JuanP on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 3:26 am
Oops sorry
We meant to say FUCKWACK! Instead of FUCKWACKS!
dumbasses
Davy on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 3:37 am
“The virus isn’t much, but the MSM hype is blowing it all out of proportion. Makes you wonder who is behind the hype? The Neocons who see their empire evaporating?”
Man, somebody is really stupid. Makato, have you seen what this did to China? As I said many times in the past, you are clueless on the economy and military. JuanPee is a perfect mate for you because he is the same combine with mental issues
“What a great way to make that One World dream come to life! A fake pandemic and grab of power. After all, there are many thousand of deaths annually from the regular flu. Same symptoms Same age group involved. A US Fort Detrick bio weapon?”
It is possible the Chinese let this out knowing they could exert authoritarian responses to subjugate their population more. Xi would become more of a dictator than he already is because of the response needed. This would be an excuse to cover China’s failing economy not inept leadership. The Chinese could have also calculated this would hurt the west more than China thereby gaining relatively in a zero sum gain. What is clear is it came from China either as a sloppy bio accident or an intentional release. People like the makato want so bad to make this look like an American attack so instead he looks like the complete fool. He even tries to minimize the virus as if it is not dangerous on many levels. It will be real poetic justice if he gets the virus and flirts with death or worse.
“I’m watching the US economy disintegrate, Sissyfuss. Along with the rest of the West. 2021 should see a major change in everything and not for the better in the West. I hope you are prepared.”
East already has makato, there is just bones now. The BRI is toast in a depressed world. Who needs a new port when trade is not growing? This is something I have said many times and you were clueless to. Your agenda of AsiaUp West down could not stomach that. LOL FOOOOOOL
makati1 on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 3:49 am
The US is going down and the coronavirus, that they likely turned loose in China to take it down, has now boomeranged. The lockdowns have begun. More practice for the police state and more brainwashing for the tax slaves.
In the last 24 hours, over 8,000 Amerikans have died of various causes. The total, to date, is 30 virus deaths in the US. THIRTY TOTAL over how many weeks? That is less than TEN MINUTES worth.
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/death-rate
https://www.census.gov/popclock/
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/coronavirus-live-updates-chinas-president-visits-outbreak-epicenter/story?id=69498726
When the COVID-19 deaths reaches 8,000 Amerikans per day, then I will agree that it is a serious problem. That it affects older persons and the unhealthy is no surprise. Junk food and bad heath habits make anyone more susceptible. Typical obese Western weakness’:smoking, sugars, fats, alcohol, drugs, (legal and not), lack of exercise, and on and on.
Going to be an even more interesting year than I previously thought. I wonder what mother nature has in store for the next 9 1/2 months? Hmm?
Davy on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 3:53 am
“Congressional doctor predicts 70-150 million U.S. coronavirus cases”
https://tinyurl.com/r93xw7g axios
“and Axios has just brought us one more: “
Zero hedge:
“It reports, citing two sources briefing on the meeting, that Congress’ in-house doctor told Capitol Hill staffers at a close-door meeting this week that he expects 75-150 million people in the US, roughly one-third of the country, to contract the coronavirus. And here’s Axios telling us “why it matters”: Why it matters: That estimate, which is in line with other projections from health experts, underscores the potential seriousness of this outbreak even as the White House has been downplaying its severity in an attempt to keep public panic at bay. Dr. Brian Monahan, the attending physician of the U.S. Congress, told Senate chiefs of staff, staff directors, administrative managers and chief clerks from both parties on Tuesday that they should prepare for the worst, and offered advice on how to remain healthy. He added that 80% of people who contract the virus will ultimately be fine. As Axios also reminds us, statistical modeling from Harvard epidemiologist Marc Lipsitch, have said that somewhere between 20% and 60% of adults worldwide might catch the virus. During an interview with CNBC following the declaration from the WHO, “The epidemic is always further ahead than what you perceive at the moment,” Dr. Scott Gottlieb said. It’s possible that we have thousands of cases here possibly tens of thousands,” Dr. Gottlieb said.”
makati1 on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 3:56 am
COVID-19 on March 12th.
Philippines, to date: 49 cases – 2 deaths.
USA to date: 1,135+ cases – 31+ deaths.
Why would I want to live in the unprepared US? LOL
Davy on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 4:01 am
“The US is going down and the coronavirus, that they likely turned loose in China to take it down, has now boomeranged. The lockdowns have begun. More practice for the police state and more brainwashing for the tax slaves.”
LMFAO, makato is stuttering and struggling to get a handle on his AsiaUp failure. He is trying so hard to isolate the damage to AsiaUp while maximizing the USdown. What a Fool!
“In the last 24 hours, over 8,000 Amerikans have died of various causes. The total, to date, is 30 virus deaths in the US. THIRTY TOTAL over how many weeks? That is less than TEN MINUTES worth.”
LMFAO at the fool minimizing the virus when he is clueless to its effects on healthcare and the economy. In his little mind the deaths are not high so it is not bad. When will this fool just shut up and quit looking so stupid? Current events are sweeping over his AsiaUp agenda and he struggles on to downplay this
“Typical obese Western weakness’:smoking, sugars, fats, alcohol, drugs, (legal and not), lack of exercise, and on and on.”
You are talking about Asia too, stupid. Try to tell me this is not going on in Asia too, please give me more laugh because it is so foolish.
“Going to be an even more interesting year than I previously thought. I wonder what mother nature has in store for the next 9 1/2 months? Hmm?”
You are in the heart of the gauntlet, makato. You are in the age group with 15-20% death rate in a third world country with no health insurance. Make you are screwed!
makati1 on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 4:02 am
I might remind some here that the Philippines is in Asia, but it is NOT China any more than the US is Mexico.
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
Some here are geography impaired.
Davy on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 4:04 am
“COVID-19 on March 12th. Philippines, to date: 49 cases – 2 deaths. USA to date: 1,135+ cases – 31+ deaths. Why would I want to live in the unprepared US? LOL”
makato is 80 miles from 20MIL metro area that is one of the most densely populated place on earth and he is not concerned. You are screwed makato. Tell us how you are going to live to 100 with your pet monkeys, again. LOL.
makati1 on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 4:07 am
I laugh at your attempts to put me down because I have lived a long life and am still healthier than you. How can you scare me if I am intelligent enough to know that getting in a car is way more dangerous than the COVID-19 bug? I’ve lived thru all of the past bugs, without vaccines, and seldom even got the sniffles. But then, I don’t sleep with goats.
Th West/US is going down. Mother Nature just greased the slide. Wheeee!
Davy on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 4:10 am
“I might remind some here that the Philippines is in Asia, but it is NOT China any more than the US is Mexico. Some here are geography impaired.”
No shit fool, but look who is impaired with science? The virus will cross borders even to islands in the globalized world of travel. The P’s has not taken any steps to stop this, I have read. In a few weeks the cases will likely explode unless there is some immunity there which the evidence is Asians carry more risk with blacks least. The P’s is a country of young so that will help with death rate but not the spread. These young are carriers and people like makato, in the death group. You should head up in the mountains makato and be a hermit for a few months or are you heading to the wet market for some jumbo shrimp. I guess you think you are god like or something.
makati1 on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 4:12 am
I am not afraid of the bug. I’m not a wimp like you. I don’t plan to go there anytime soon, but if I do, I will be fine.
You just have a fear of dying, I don’t. I have been almost dead several times in my 75 years. I’m still here enjoying every day as it comes.
I don’t have to go to work or worry about losing my income by being quarantined or under viral house arrest, like you do. I’m prepped to wait this hysteria out. Preppers will have the last laugh.
makati1 on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 4:15 am
Davy, did you ever get out of the 3rd grade? it must have been embarrassing when you quit at age 16 and were still wedged into those little seats. LMAO!
Dinner time here. I’ve got a kilo of extra large shrimp to steam with Old Bay Seasoning and some San Mig chilling in ice. Later!
Davy on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 4:17 am
“I laugh at your attempts to put me down because I have lived a long life and am still healthier than you.”
Makato, this is the internet you don’t know how healthy I am besides randomness plays a huge part.
“How can you scare me if I am intelligent enough to know that getting in a car is way more dangerous than the COVID-19 bug?”
AH, old people are not in the 15%-20% death range from getting in a car. If the virus spreads and evidence says it will continue to spread you are way more at risk with the virus than a car.
“ I’ve lived thru all of the past bugs, without vaccines, and seldom even got the sniffles. But then, I don’t sleep with goats.”
LOL, makato, when was the last really bad pandemic? Right, before you were born. You are old now so maybe you should take this seriously
“Th West/US is going down. Mother Nature just greased the slide. Wheeee!”
You mean China released the pathogen either intentionally or through sloppiness and it is Hammering the world, Asia included.
WHEEEEEEE!
Davy on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 4:29 am
“I am not afraid of the bug. I’m not a wimp like you. I don’t plan to go there anytime soon, but if I do, I will be fine. You just have a fear of dying, I don’t. I have been almost dead several times in my 75 years. I’m still here enjoying every day as it comes.”
This is great the fool is not afraid of the virus but no world about being afraid for others like his old friends and his family. What a selfish condescending bastard. Nobody on this forum is as afraid of dying as you makato and this is likely why you are in denial and delusional. You constantly talk about how healthy you are, your superior genes, and how you will live to 100. Maybe you do because fools are lucky too.
“I don’t have to go to work or worry about losing my income by being quarantined or under viral house arrest, like you do. I’m prepped to wait this hysteria out. Preppers will have the last laugh.”
I am fine makato, I am taking precautions here on the farm. I have income from investments and I have 10 years of solid prep strategies. I have 50 goats and 10 cattle too. Fuel tanks are full. Freezer is full. Long shelf life food is on the shelves. Plenty of guns and ammo. Good neighbors I have already met with to discuss security just in case. I am real prepped you are monkey and coconut prepped. You are 80 miles from 20MIL urban area and I am 150 or so from 4MIL (KC & STL). If the internet goes unstable you might not get that SS check then what? Yea, you will be begging on the street corner
“Davy, did you ever get out of the 3rd grade? it must have been embarrassing when you quit at age 16 and were still wedged into those little seats. LMAO!”
Translation: makato is now realizing how foolish he is so he lashes out with stupidity.
“Dinner time here. I’ve got a kilo of extra large shrimp to steam with Old Bay Seasoning and some San Mig chilling in ice. Later!”
Good boy, drink yourself into oblivion so you can forget about what is ahead for you. I don’t drink or drug and have no desire to. I love my coffee, green tea, and a good night sleep. My Italian wife is an excellent cook.
makati1 on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 4:32 am
Immaturity is one of your many negative personality traits Davy. You keep posting them on here 24/7/365, proving to everyone just what you really are. I cannot think of one positive trait you have exhibited over the last 5-6 years. Not one. A worthless piece of goat shit with a cheap, used, I phone and internet access from a neighbor’s WIFI.
You are about as “exceptional” as that dying country you try to support. LOL
makati1 on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 4:39 am
Your Italian breed nanny goat can do nothing but provide you with a bit of sex you cannot get anywhere else and listen to your jackass braying.
Your northern Italy escape pad is quarantined so you are cut off. Soon your swamp will be in the same boat.
Do you have a life Davy? It doesn’t appear so to all here.
Try backing up your assertions with proof, not hot air.
God, you are sick! Get help! Here is a list:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=free+mental+health+clinics+in+Missouri
Davy on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 4:45 am
“Bracing For Impact” – China Shock To Strike Germany’s Largest Port In Days, As Trade Volumes Collapse 40%”
https://tinyurl.com/t9lb9vg zero hedge
“The worst-case coronavirus scenario is now being realized for German ports, as collapsing trade volumes from China could push Europe’s largest economy into recession. For the last three weeks, global markets have been obsessed with economic paralysis that is quickly spreading across Asia, Europe, and the Americas. An economic shock combined with a virus outbreak is what triggered a macro matters moment for investors, who sold first and are asking questions later, as it appears a global trade recession could be on the horizon. The port of Hamburg, Germany’s largest trading hub, reported a 40% plunge in trade volumes for February. The weakness was a combination of the Chinese New Year festivities and the onset of economic shocks triggered by the virus shutting down two-thirds of China’s economy…Mattern pointed out bright spots are developing in China as some businesses have increased output but far away from full capacity. “What we hear from on site in Shanghai is that there are first signs of normalisation. In Shanghai, more than 50% of employees now go to work. But then again, this also shows that we’re still a long way from normal and a ‘business as usual’.”… To sum up, the bat shock from Wuhan has taken a little more than a month to reach Europe and could start hitting Germany’s industrial base this week, if not next. This all suggests that twin shocks are about to strike Europe’s largest economy, one being an industrial shock from China, and the other being a demand shock in services, as tens of millions of people in Europe avoid public areas as virus cases and deaths erupt on the continent. Europe is the new China; its economy is set to crash.”
Davy on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 4:59 am
LOL, makato, did you put the shrimp and cold beer on hold?
“Immaturity is one of your many negative personality traits Davy.”
You are projecting makato. Don’t think you can come on this forum and bad mouth me and join in with your lunatic juanPee harassing me. You are open season sucker. You fucks ignore me and I will ignore you but you can’t because I am right with objectivity and balance and you are wrong with extremist binary agendas of hate and resentment.
“ You keep posting them on here 24/7/365, proving to everyone just what you really are. I cannot think of one positive trait you have exhibited over the last 5-6 years. Not one. A worthless piece of goat shit with a cheap, used, I phone and internet access from a neighbor’s WIFI.”
More projecting! I am here in the morning mainly. If I am here more than normal during the day it is while I am working. I can multitask with an iPhone. Stupid (juanPee) is a fool too and I am kicking his ass turing his trolling back on himself. Unfortunately for the other readers here, juanPee, anonymouse, and you are trolling me and I am rubbing your noses in your own shit which makes this forum dysfunctional. If you ignore me you will see me a lot less. That is the way it works but in the past if I let up you guys ramp up the harassment. You guys re all sick fucks
“You are about as “exceptional” as that dying country you try to support. LOL”
Translation: nothing said but anger and resentment for an “ass kicking”
“Your Italian breed nanny goat can do nothing but provide you with a bit of sex you cannot get anywhere else and listen to your jackass braying.”
Translation: makato talks bestiality when upset
“Your northern Italy escape pad is quarantined so you are cut off. Soon your swamp will be in the same boat.”
Dumb fuck who complains about geography and is clueless himself to it. My wife is from the mountains and the problem is much less there than the plains below the mountains were the bulk of the people are. My wife’s village is in one of the least populated parts of Italy. Her mom is fine.
“Do you have a life Davy? It doesn’t appear so to all here.”
I am drinking my coffee now and rubbing your shit in your nose, makato. You had to put off your jumbo shrimp and your cheap beer buzz to try to defend the undefendable. FOOL
“Try backing up your assertions with proof, not hot air.”
Translation: makato is looking in the mirror
“God, you are sick! Get help! Here is a list:” https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=free+mental+health+clinics+in+Missouri”
You always know when makato runs out of steam when he puts the Missouri clinics in his comment. FOOL
I hope you have a hangover with indigestion. LOL LOL
JuanP on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 5:04 am
I am very depressed today with suicidal thoughts so I will not be commenting and stalking davy
world grater supremacists muzzies love assn on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 5:10 am
Islamic Scholar Who Said Coronavirus Was “Allah’s Punishment” Gets Coronavirus
An Islamic scholar who said the coronavirus was “Allah’s punishment” for China’s treatment of Muslims now has coronavirus. How ironic. Back in February, Hadi Al-Modarresi, who is based in Iran, said that the coronavirus outbreak was “undoubtedly an act of Allah that is divine punishment against the Chinese for their treatment, mockery, and disrespect towards Muslims and Islam,” reported MEMRI-TV. “It is obvious that the spread of this virus is an act of Allah. How do we know this? The spread of the coronavirus began in China, an ancient and vast country, the population of which makes up one seventh of humanity,” said Al-Modarresi. Iraqi Islamic Scholar Hadi Al-Modarresi, Prior to Being Infected with Coronavirus: The Virus Is a Divine Punishment against the Chinese
Mick on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 5:43 am
I think it’s time to stop this insane Davy /JuanP thing a effing rest . Things are really starting to get interesting and we losing precious time to have real discussion .
The shit is literally hitting the fan and this site has drop to a level that I just have a quick glance at and the usuall suspects just trash any decent conversation
Abraham van Helsing on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 6:02 am
330 million and the only candidate they can come up with is Joe Biden?
https://www.geenstijl.nl/5152295/bewaartopic-hillary-clinton-wordt-de-2020-democratische-presidentskandidaat/
Scroll-down for the videos.
The author predicts that Hillary Clinton will take over from Joe Biden, because the latter is simply too daft to complete a single sentence.
Davy on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 6:05 am
“Iran Has Far More Coronavirus Cases Than It Is Letting On”
https://tinyurl.com/v45xfmh the atlantic
The disease started in China, but it became finally and irrevocably uncontained in Iran. Knowing that the Iranian number is much higher than currently disclosed tells the rest of the world that the epidemic is even further along than official statistics indicate…On March 4 and 5, two evacuation flights of Chinese citizens were allowed to leave Tehran for China’s Gansu province. Chinese authorities were of course wary of introducing more coronavirus carriers into the country, so they tested passengers and found 11 COVID-19 cases out of 311 passengers. If Chinese people in Iran got the disease at the same rate as Iranians, that suggests a rate of 3.5 percent, for a total of 5.7 million at the time of the flight. Tuite, the researcher who studied earlier flights, cautions that this number would undercount total cases, because it represents the number of cases on that plane at that time (the “point prevalence”) and not total cumulative cases—which would be higher, about 8 million. “It’s alarming, and I have a hard time wrapping my head around the implications of this,” she told me. “But I think it’s possible.”…
joe on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 6:13 am
usuall
Abraham van Helsing on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 6:02 am
I agree, I can see biden as a placeholder for another candidate. Legally if Biden is senile, he cant be president or even make a legally binding contract or law. Who ever is VP will be president IF America elected Biden over Trump.
Davy on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 6:19 am
“I think it’s time to stop this insane Davy /JuanP thing a effing rest . Things are really starting to get interesting and we losing precious time to have real discussion .The shit is literally hitting the fan and this site has drop to a level that I just have a quick glance at and the usuall suspects just trash any decent conversation”
Ah, mick who is likely a juanPee sock or just a once in a blue moon real mick. This Davy/JuanP thing is not going away unless juanPee ignores me and then I will ignore him. He started the focused davy trolling. He has been trolling me for 3 years now, daily, with ID theft and hostile socks. His buddies makato, anon, and cloggo participate. So quit your whining and get used to it. These guys are extremist with a bent agenda that is about dumping negative comments about the US constantly and continuously. I am the only objective balanced one here anymore. If you were clever enough you would see what is going on. It is called cyber stalking and bullying attempting censorship. I have turned this back on these guys with excellent results. Until the site owners instigate a minimum of auto moderation this shit will continue. Got it micky? Here is what the site owners need to do:
“Cloudflare is one of the last bastions of free speech. It is very sad that the admin of this site doesn’t seem to want to take the trouble to log in to his server dashboard and active a few presets, enforcing posters to post under a unique username/password combination. That doesn’t eliminate garbage under fake identities, but at least it stops identity theft and that would make a hell of a difference. If possible, you could also enforce that one IP-address can only post under a single identity. Please admin, invest an hour of your time to get this right.”
Mich go back to this time frame and do site research. Here is where juanPee said he was going to go after me:
“JuanP on Tue, 2nd Oct 2018 5:23 pm
Delusional Davy “Boney Juan I know who your puppeteer is.”
Time stands still for you, doesn’t it? I will let this one pass out of pity.”
BTW, boney joe was a sock used routinely back then to attack me. He did this daily and mindlessly. Whne that did not work he turned to ID theft which he has continued with until now. His friends support this so they are open season. AGAIN, MICK, GOT IT?
Davy on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 6:22 am
Coronavirus deaths in the US exploded overnight y’all. Outside of that Washington State old folks home the death rate soared all across America from 6 to 8. This is a full blown pandemic now folks. Stock up on toilet paper NOW! If you can find any…
WE ALL GONNA DIE!!!
makati1 on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 6:26 am
People, Davy is totally insane and proves it with every post. He has no life, family or farm, just piles of goat shit. The site owner obviously doesn’t care. It’s ALL about $$$.
Davy on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 6:27 am
“Analysis into the Iran Outbreak”
https://tinyurl.com/v45zee8 oil price dot com commentary
“Italy is a week behind Iran in the epidemic cycle and has now locked down the entire country. The US and UK are a week behind Italy. While it’s difficult to get accurate information out of Iran because of media blackouts and lack of testing, there are reports of overflowing hospitals with no masks, gloves, or oxygen and many doctors and nurses dying while trying to care for patients. This article is a solid attempt at bias sampling to arrive at a reasonable estimate of the number of infections, placing the number at about 2 million. I think they are indicating that the likely number going forward is going to be pretty much the entire country. Since beyond a million cases, you have practically all people who are contact nodes infected already or going to be very soon. The next step is that practically everyone has someone infected in their household”
Flushed juanPee out of the bushes on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 6:30 am
JuanP is very predictable and here is his standard mindless MO:
JUANP SOCK
“Mick on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 5:43 am I think it’s time to stop this insane Davy /JuanP thing a effing rest . Things are really starting to get interesting and we losing precious time to have real discussion .The shit is literally hitting the fan and this site has drop to a level that I just have a quick glance at and the usuall suspects just trash any decent conversation”
JUANP ID THEFT
“Davy on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 6:22 am Coronavirus deaths in the US exploded overnight y’all. Outside of that Washington State old folks home the death rate soared all across America from 6 to 8. This is a full blown pandemic now folks. Stock up on toilet paper NOW! If you can find any…WE ALL GONNA DIE!!!”
makati1 on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 6:31 am
People, JuanP is totally insane and proves it with every post. He has no life, family or farm, just piles of goat shit. The site owner obviously doesn’t care. It’s ALL about $$$.
Davy on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 6:37 am
“30,000 US Soldiers Arrive In Europe Without Masks”
https://tinyurl.com/r559o8g zero hedge
“ the 30,000 US soldiers « will deploy throughout the European region » in order to « protect Europe from any potential threat », with a clear reference to the « Russian menace ».”
No masks?
OMFG!
THEY ALL GONNA DIE!!!
Davy on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 6:51 am
“US Nukes Reportedly Delivered To Poland”
https://tinyurl.com/yx83vfco zero hedge
“An official in the Air Mobility Command who wished to remain anonymous said that the nuclear ammunition had already been delivered to Powidz, Poland in early March 2020. In this way the tensions are to rise in Europe: the biggest US maneuvers in Europe, more nukes– that can provoke reactions from Russia.”
“Moscow has already warned that Russian government would take responsive measures to an upcoming, massive U.S. military deployment and U.S.-led exercises across multiple European states bordering Russia. Russia cannot ignore these processes, which are of great concern, and stated that they will respond in such a way that does not create unnecessary risks.”
“It’s worth noting that everything that Russia do in response to the threats created by NATO members to its security do exclusively on its own territory. Just like all Russian nuclear weapons are on its territory, unlike American nuclear weapons.”
Abraham van Helsing on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 7:35 am
Even Americans realize that nukes can’t be used. A nuke fired from Poland against Russia would be immediately responded against via home land USA. First target: Manhattan, sufficient to decapitate the US. If Russia goes, so does the US.
Abraham van Helsing on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 7:47 am
BoJo wants to “get it on the chin”. He will get it on the chin:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8103651/Pressure-mounts-Boris-Johnson-ramp-Britains-coronavirus-action.html
“Boris Johnson WON’T ban mass gatherings or close schools in fight against coronavirus – despite Scotland and Ireland taking the drastic action”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8103999/NHS-doctor-trapped-coronavirus-hit-Italy-begs-UK-Government-shut-EVERYTHING.html
“Former NHS doctor trapped in coronavirus-hit Italy begs the UK Government to shut down EVERYTHING in the fight against the killer infection as he warns it’s NOT just the elderly who are dying”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8102665/Donald-Trump-closes-borders-Europe-pledges-financial-aid-sick.html
“Donald Trump BANS visitors from Europe from entering the US for 30 days starting at midnight on Friday – but excludes the UK and Ireland – in effort to staunch coronavirus pandemic. But how will it slow spread of virus ALREADY inside US?”
Hmmm, the UK taking no measures worth mentioning and the US letting in only UK super spreaders. What could possibly go wrong!
#SpecialRelationship
JuanP on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 8:10 am
30,000 US Soldiers Arrive In Europe Without Masks
https://tinyurl.com/r559o8g zero hedge
“ the 30,000 US soldiers « will deploy throughout the European region » in order to « protect Europe from any potential threat », with a clear reference to the « Russian menace ».”
No masks?
OMFG!
THEY ALL GONNA DIE!!!
JuanP on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 8:10 am
US Nukes Reportedly Delivered To Poland
https://tinyurl.com/yx83vfco zero hedge
“An official in the Air Mobility Command who wished to remain anonymous said that the nuclear ammunition had already been delivered to Powidz, Poland in early March 2020. In this way the tensions are to rise in Europe: the biggest US maneuvers in Europe, more nukes– that can provoke reactions from Russia.”
“Moscow has already warned that Russian government would take responsive measures to an upcoming, massive U.S. military deployment and U.S.-led exercises across multiple European states bordering Russia. Russia cannot ignore these processes, which are of great concern, and stated that they will respond in such a way that does not create unnecessary risks.”
“It’s worth noting that everything that Russia do in response to the threats created by NATO members to its security do exclusively on its own territory. Just like all Russian nuclear weapons are on its territory, unlike American nuclear weapons.”
Davy on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 8:15 am
“Bitcoin And Bullion Blasted As Traders Sell Everything”
https://tinyurl.com/rmxh6j3 zero hedge
“This is liquidation… of everything.”
Sissyfuss on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 8:43 am
Market circuit breaker kicks and shuts down market after 6 mins of trading and going down 1620. In 6 MINUTES!!!
Abraham van Helsing on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 8:45 am
The entire Greek-Turkish border is a single river, the Maritsa or Evros that originates in Bulgaria:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritsa#/media/File:Maritsa.png
The good Bulgarians have now provided the Greeks with an extremely useful service, namely increasing the water level in the Evros:
https://nationalfile.com/report-bulgaria-floods-river-to-prevent-migrants-from-entering-europe/
“REPORT: Bulgaria ‘Floods’ River to Prevent Migrants from Entering Europe”
The Bulgarians themselves have an effective border fence erected a long time ago to protect themselves from Islamist invaders:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSimB9VpW24
…something Americans can only dream about as the latter have too many traitors from within to stop the inevitable demographic crash in the US.
Hello on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 8:49 am
>> inevitable demographic crash in the US
Lack of kids, also in europe, while clinching on to GROWTH at all costs, will also in europe lead to the inevitable.
Abraham van Helsing on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 9:01 am
“Lack of kids, also in Europe, while clinching on to GROWTH at all costs, will also in Europe lead to the inevitable.”
Absolutely true, but in Europe with 20 years delay. America is approaching the demographic tipping point NOW. Either in 2020 or 2024 at the latest, the darkies will have the upper hand over whitey in America for good and will make him pay and change the character of the country… unless the country falls apart, the best that could happen to America from a white perspective.
Hopefully Corona will induce a shock to Europe, sufficient for real change. That is radical anti-feminist, pro-family policies and tax penalties for wankers. If you are a wanker and have a job and a guy with a family has none, than by law the employer should be obliged to replace the wanker with the family man on the spot.
Hello on Thu, 12th Mar 2020 9:18 am
>> change the character of the country…
Already happened. Institutional racism against european is now acceptable in the US.
And I see the same happening in europe. Each time a native is not born, but an import takes his place, the soul of the nation loses a tiny bit.