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Will China beat the world to nuclear fusion and clean energy?
In a world with an ever-increasing demand for electricity and a deteriorating environment, Chinese scientists are leading the charge to develop what some see as the holy grail of energy.
The BBC’s Stephen McDonell was given rare access to their facility in Anhui province.
Imagine limitless energy with virtually no waste at all: this is the lofty promise of nuclear fusion.
On Science Island in Eastern China’s Anhui Province, there is a large gleaming metal doughnut encased in an enormous shiny, round box about as big as a two-storey apartment. This is the Experimental Advanced Superconducting Tokamak (or EAST).
Inside, hydrogen atoms fuse and become helium which can generate heat at several times the temperature of the sun’s core.
Powerful magnets then control the reaction, which could one day produce vast amounts of electricity if maintained.
Around the globe, they are trying to master nuclear fusion – in the United States, Japan, Korea, Brazil and European Union – but none can hold it steady for as long as the team in Anhui.
Right now that’s 100 seconds and it gets longer every year. Here they’re already talking about goals which are 10 times as long, at temperatures of 100 million degrees Celsius.
But there’s a reason why fusion has eluded scientists and engineers since the early advances in the Soviet Union in the 1950s.
It is really difficult.
Safe nuclear energy
Maintaining a limited fusion reaction in a controlled environment has been possible for more than 50 years and yet the duration is still a long way short of what would be needed to capture this vast heat and convert it to electricity.
The EAST system is a souped-up version of the original Russian design.
On the day we visit we watch a lively debate unfold in the control room. There are leakage problems – not material getting out but air being sucked into the vacuum within – and they need to find a solution.
A separate group is in walkie-talkie contact with the control room. They move around the configuration of pipes, electricity housing and stepladders surrounding the Tokamak, looking to patch the leak.
When Xi Jinping visited here he wanted to know about the dangers of this technology, so we asked what they told China’s president.
“A fusion reactor is quite safe compared with fission reactor,” says Song Yuntao, deputy director at EAST.
“Magnetic confinement is controllable fusion. I can shut down the power supply and it’s perfectly safe. There won’t be any nuclear disaster.”
Current nuclear reactors rely on fission and the splitting of an atom which leaves toxic waste that must be safely stored for potentially tens of thousands of years.
A nuclear fusion power plant would instead stem from the joining of two nuclei to make a single nucleus and then magnets inside the internal wall of the doughnut contain the reaction (called the plasma) inside the huge tube.
Crucially, we’re told, this leaves almost no waste.
A hefty price tag
However the technology is not cheap.
It costs $15,000 a day just to turn on the machine and that’s without the wages of hundreds of specialists, the construction of buildings and the like.
And yet the Chinese government is digging into its deep pockets to fund the project in the full knowledge that it could be decades before fusion is lighting up major cities.
“Fusion is going to require huge breakthroughs from scientists and engineers as well as a lot of financial backing from the government,” Mr Song says.
“It’s a project which costs so much but personally I think it’s going to be great for the sustainable development of mankind.”
Because it carries such a hefty price tag and because it is so hard, the pursuit of fusion is seeing a fair amount of international collaboration.
For example, China is one of the countries contributing to the ambitious International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor (ITER) project in southern France which – apart from European nations – draws in India, Japan, Russia, South Korean and the United States. It is expected to start testing in 2025.
In the meantime China is also making leaps and bounds on its own.
The proposed next step for this team is to design a fully-fledged nuclear fusion test reactor capable of generating electricity. To eventually work properly it would have to be much bigger than what we’ve seen and able to contain a plasma reaction indefinitely rather than for a minute-and-a-half.
“The demand for energy is huge in every country and China has a roadmap for fusion-generated power,” says Mr Song. “We want to complete the design for a test fusion reactor within five years. If we succeed it will be the world’s first fusion reactor.”
The eventual hope is that fusion might produce electricity in volumes beyond mankind’s wildest dreams.
It may be some way off but Beijing is taking the challenge very seriously meaning that, if it can get it to work, China could end up having the edge over all others when it comes to the power generation of the future.
62 Comments on "Will China beat the world to nuclear fusion and clean energy?"
Cloggie on Wed, 18th Apr 2018 12:40 pm
Why do titles of articles about fusion always have to end with a question mark, making the article virtually worthless.
but none can hold it steady for as long as the team in Anhui. Right now that’s 100 seconds
Italians like Casanova can hold steady much longer.
Westexasfanclub on Wed, 18th Apr 2018 3:54 pm
“Italians like Casanova can hold steady much longer”
That’s the holy grail of male/female fusion!
Boat on Wed, 18th Apr 2018 4:01 pm
Yeabut jobs are needed as well. Go wind and solar. When your young turbines rule for getting girls. When your old a washed depends will work for cleaning solar panels.
makati1 on Wed, 18th Apr 2018 6:40 pm
Moving on to a more importanttopic:
““Despite bipartisan demands from Congress to quickly phase out the RD-180 engines on national-security grounds, it is proving harder than many lawmakers expected to secure an equally reliable domestic replacement. Government and industry officials said United Launch Alliance, the Pentagon’s primary rocket provider, likely will continue flying some 1990s-vintage Atlas V boosters with Russian-built engines through 2024 or 2025.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-18/russia-threatens-halt-critical-rocket-engine-exports-us-0
This is old news but in a new context. No ‘reliable’ replacement. LOL
MASTERMIND on Wed, 18th Apr 2018 6:51 pm
I Love Watching Whites Who Can’t Accept That The World Has Changed.
https://www.godlikeproductions.com/sm/c3549d16.gif
Davy on Wed, 18th Apr 2018 6:54 pm
Billy 3rd world, did you read on the Hedge, Putin wants to make deep compromises with the US. He says Russia can’t compete with US economically.
MASTERMIND on Wed, 18th Apr 2018 6:56 pm
Russia has a $1.56 trillion economy. How pathetic. California has a $2.4 trillion GDP. Fuck you Russia you pathetic weak trolling little shits. You have a weaker economy than California and you’re trying to take the world stage? Fuck you Putin and all of Russia. You are the most pathetic, narcissistic mother fuckers I’ve ever seen
trolling the internet in my entire lifetime. Get back into your hole you little worthless shits!
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/022415/worlds-top-10-economies.asp
http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2016/jul/26/kevin-de-leon/does-california-really-have-sixth-largest-economy-/
Boat on Wed, 18th Apr 2018 7:48 pm
Mak,
A good idea is to let Musk have that 20 billion a year. He is kicking ass over all the space programs. He may buy the P’s….lol…..not.
Boat on Wed, 18th Apr 2018 7:54 pm
Mm
Who needs the world when you got Netflix. Not to mention the greatest sports in history. Pay attention to what’s important.
it'sme on Wed, 18th Apr 2018 8:12 pm
Casanova was a fag like most Italians and Euros.
People who hate russia are anti white racists.
Russia is a sleeping giant than never even reached one percent of it’s potential. That’s why bullshovic jews tried to destroy it.
makati1 on Wed, 18th Apr 2018 8:48 pm
Boat, did you miss taking your meds today? That is even over top in ridiculous comments.
“Tesla Looked Like the Future. Now Some Ask if It Has One.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/29/business/tesla-elon-musk.html
‘Tesla Is Starting to Sound a Little Like Donald Trump”
https://slate.com/technology/2018/04/teslas-response-to-reveals-worker-safety-investigation-is-positively-trumpian.html
“Elon Musk Makes Light of Tesla’s Troubles in April Fool’s Tweets”
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/01/business/tesla-elon-musk.html
All he can do is sound like Trump and keep shoveling bullshit into the suckers like you. He is already failing. Yep, he is gong to compete with Russia’s 20+ years experience building ‘reliable’ rocket engines. LMAO
Anonymouse1 on Thu, 19th Apr 2018 2:05 am
Boatwetard is legally retarded, so replying to his retarded nonsense is about as productive, and useful as asking a monkey to discuss general relativity. Actually, that could be unfair, you would get a better conversation out of a monkey on that topic, or any other, than you ever could out of Boatietard.
makati1 on Thu, 19th Apr 2018 3:15 am
Anon, you are probably correct. It seems like hitting one’s head against a brick wall to get him to think. No signs of success.
A few others here are similar, except, in their case, they are just too brainwashed to be able to consider that there may be a different world outside the Us MSM Iron Curtain.
deadly on Thu, 19th Apr 2018 3:25 am
Ask J. Robert Oppenheimer if nuclear energy is clean or dirty. Nuclear bombs are not clean energy. An irradiated atmosphere will produce malignant neoplasms, gamma rays are to blame.
‘Why should we hear about body bags and deaths? It’s not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?’ – Barbara Bush
In the beginning, Netflix was killer. It is now useless and worthless.
Never go there anymore.
Davy on Thu, 19th Apr 2018 6:11 am
Where do you fit in?
https://tinyurl.com/y92s63wj
joe on Thu, 19th Apr 2018 10:35 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43823074
Hottest day in April since 1949.
The clock is ticking…..
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/apr/19/great-barrier-reef-30-of-coral-died-in-catastrophic-2016-heatwave
Outcast_Searcher on Thu, 19th Apr 2018 1:06 pm
Joe, picking 1 day weather events is just as dumb for AGW proponents as it is for AGW deniers (cue senator Inhofe and his famous snowball).
Much of the US is having a weird and cold spring thus far. Short term weather is NOT climate.
I’m an AGW alarmist, BTW, but please stay off my side with stupid stuff that only encourages the AGW deniers to obfuscate the issue.
Cloggie on Thu, 19th Apr 2018 2:12 pm
Why the renewable energy transition is doable and could proceed much faster than you think:
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2018/04/19/coming-10-15-years-offshore-wind-will-be-booming/
dave thompson on Thu, 19th Apr 2018 2:53 pm
Lets see as we look today FF use has increased year over year for the past OHHHHH lets call it umpteen years. for now all alt energy schemes are just a bunch of hucksters selling a pile of SHIT.
MASTERMIND on Thu, 19th Apr 2018 4:27 pm
Clogg
How are renewables going to power our cars, trucks, ships, planes, semi’s, boats, buses, trains, machinery, robots, cranes, bulldozers, tractors, go carts, snowplows, Nascar, tanks?
MASTERMIND on Thu, 19th Apr 2018 4:28 pm
renewable’s are a mass delusion to ensure that the hordes think that “they’re working on it” and everything is OK.
https://imgur.com/a/pYxKa
dave thompson on Thu, 19th Apr 2018 5:06 pm
Mastermind, “they’re working on it” and everything is OK.” I gotta say nice summation.
onlooker on Thu, 19th Apr 2018 5:59 pm
What a joke at this point the Renewable-Transition. The only thing China has going for it is lots of cheap labor. At the rate their Environment is deteriorating, they may beat everybody to die
Sissyfuss on Thu, 19th Apr 2018 10:17 pm
China will do what it always does, wait til someone perfects a workable fusion unit and then steal the technology. Cheaper and easier that way.
makati1 on Thu, 19th Apr 2018 10:21 pm
Just like the Us stole the rocket scientists from Nazi Germany after the war. Happens all the time. Get the tech (buy it or steal it) and then improve on it. But fusion will not happen before the SHTF and ends all of the current plans.
Newfie on Fri, 20th Apr 2018 12:28 am
it’s only ten years away…
Cloggie on Fri, 20th Apr 2018 2:32 am
Hottest day in April since 1949.
The clock is ticking…..
It is detrimental for your alarmism that you had to include 1949.
Love this April after the coldest winter in years!
Cloggie on Fri, 20th Apr 2018 2:34 am
How are renewables going to power our cars, trucks, ships, planes, semi’s, boats, buses, trains, machinery, robots, cranes, bulldozers, tractors, go carts, snowplows, Nascar, tanks?
Batteries, hydrogen, NH3, methanol.
Cloggie on Fri, 20th Apr 2018 2:48 am
Lets see as we look today FF use has increased year over year for the past OHHHHH lets call it umpteen years. for now all alt energy schemes are just a bunch of hucksters selling a pile of SHIT.
Europe is the only major economic player that has declining fossil fuel consumption:
https://tinyurl.com/yd8uoath
Denmark, Germany, Scotland, Portugal have 36% or more renewable share electricity. In the case of Denmark it is almost exclusively wind with 43.4% in 2017:
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-denmark-renewables-windpower/denmark-sets-record-with-43-percent-of-power-from-wind-in-2017-idUKKBN1F01VD
Germany had 38.5%…
https://news.vattenfall.com/en/article/2017-record-year-wind-germany-and-denmark
…making a mockery of the claim made by the Prozark that mysteriously small countries have an advantage with implementing renewable energy. They don’t. It is just that Germans prefers wind turbines and Americans jets, carriers and bombs. It’s a difference in approach and character. America will be ill prepared indeed when the oil flow recedes. We in Europe not so much. We will own all the renewable energy industries where Anglos owned most of the “7 Sisters” throughout the 20th century. And if you look at history:
country energy century
Holland wind 17
Britain coal 19
America oil 20
Energy comes first, reserve currency (a derived) second:
https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2016/06/11/20160612_nothing.jpg
I’ll leave it to you as an exercise to figure out who is going to dominate the 21st century. 😉
Davy on Fri, 20th Apr 2018 3:37 am
Batteries, hydrogen, NH3, methanol.
How are we going to afford Batteries, hydrogen, NH3, and methanol at the scale needed and with an economy struggling as it is? I doubt we will.
Davy on Fri, 20th Apr 2018 3:52 am
“Denmark, Germany, Scotland, Portugal have 36% or more renewable share electricity. In the case of Denmark it is almost exclusively wind with 43.4% in 2017:”
How much is solar and wind? Right. How much more than the US or China? Right. Not impressive yet just talk. You are more than talk you are an extremist lost in a fantasy world. Denmark is the size of a city BTW, nothing to harp about like you do daily.
“…making a mockery of the claim made by the Prozark that mysteriously small countries have an advantage with implementing renewable energy. They don’t. It is just that Germans prefers wind turbines and Americans jets, carriers and bombs. “
Shut up nedernazi, your loving German spends a considerable amount on their military and their military is substandard and a paper army
“It’s a difference in approach and character. America will be ill prepared indeed when the oil flow recedes. We in Europe not so much.”
Please you are nowhere near that point and it is debatable you will ever get there. Your fossil fuels are running out faster than the US. Your demographics are horrible. You are in a demographic catch 22 of needing all those people of color but if you take them…oops..there goes your culture.
“We will own all the renewable energy industries where Anglos owned most of the “7 Sisters” throughout the 20th century. And if you look at history: country energy century Holland wind 17Britain coal 19 America oil 20”
History, WTF, do you know about history the above brain fart show this.
“Energy comes first, reserve currency (a derived) second:”
You don’t relate the two as a comparison dummy. They are two different elements of different aspects of the global economy.
“I’ll leave it to you as an exercise to figure out who is going to dominate the 21st century. ”
Worms and maggots dummy
Cloggie on Fri, 20th Apr 2018 4:08 am
How much is solar and wind? Right.
What “Right?”.
43.4% in Denmark, you dummy. It was written right above your eternal impotent questioning. History doesn’t belong to doubters or skeptics like you.
Shut up nedernazi, your loving German spends a considerable amount on their military and their military is substandard and a paper army
You are contradicting yourself. What is it: “considerable spending” or “paper army”. The truth is they are spending less than 50% per capita of what the US spends:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditure_per_capita
Please you are nowhere near that point and it is debatable you will ever get there.
Debate all you want and keep talking yourself in the grave while we in Europe create facts:
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2017/05/09/the-giants-of-a-new-energy-age/
Your fossil fuels are running out faster than the US.
Sure, but we have Russia which greatly diminishes the geopolitical options of the US European vassals. Why do you think that Italy and even Germany only paid lip service of support to that impotent Syrian strike? They can’t afford to antagonize Russia. Meanwhile North Stream 2 is going ahead, regardless of what the Americans say or think.
You are in a demographic catch 22 of needing all those people of color but if you take them…oops.
That’s already greatly diminished and we don’t need darkies for anything. Just raise pension age. In 1950 in Holland men worked until 65 and died on average at 68. We can force whitey to work until 77 until he dies at 81. No problems, no need for darkies. They can go to America and prepare for the meltdown their. The demographic problems in Europe are nowhere so bad as in the US:
https://mobile.twitter.com/HarmlessYardDog/status/967415441839796225
US = Iraq = Syria = Yugoslavia = USSR = break up country
For demographic reasons.
Prepare for civil war, Amerikaantje. Why don’t you step on the plane and flee to Italy while there is still air traffic and pretend to be a Canadian, there high in the Italians Alps? You are going down, f*cker and hard.
Davy on Fri, 20th Apr 2018 4:23 am
Another demographic “oops” in the fantasy PBM agenda.
“Poland’s Repopulation Problem”
https://tinyurl.com/yd79d45g
https://tinyurl.com/y8dc5o8t
“Europe’s native population is not just aging, it is disappearing. The political and financial establishments rely on false official projections. Despite the UN Population Division prognoses that fertility rates will soon rebound to replacement rates, such a phenomenon is nowhere to be seen. In all European countries native populations have extremely low fertility and they are in full decline, and there are no signs that this will change anytime soon. Whatever official statisticians try to make you believe, an increase in fertility and the growth of populations in countries like France, the UK and Sweden is 100% migration related. These are non-refutable facts: plain mathematics. For now about 50% of the migrants in Western Europe come from Central Europe, however that will not be the case for long. Gefira is one of the few research groups that have the capacity to do our own computer-based projections and our findings are disturbing. Population in Poland has been and certainly will be decreasing because of the low fertility rate (1,36 in 2016) and long-lasting emigration. The Polish state-run Central Statistical Office (GUS) predicted such situation but its forecasts include not only emigration but also immigration mainly from Ukraine and even with people moving to Poland the situation does not look good. The Gefira calculations, excluding migration, forecast 30 million native Poles in 2050 and 13,5 million in 2100.”
Davy on Fri, 20th Apr 2018 4:35 am
“43.4% in Denmark, you dummy. It was written right above your eternal impotent questioning. History doesn’t belong to doubters or skeptics like you.”
Drama queen give me the EU number not a number from a country the size of Chicago.
“You are contradicting yourself. What is it: “considerable spending” or “paper army”. The truth is they are spending less than 50% per capita of what the US spends:”
What contradiction nedernazi? German still spends a significant amount on defense so get your assertions correct. Besides that figure would skyrocket if the US was not protecting Europe.
“Debate all you want and keep talking yourself in the grave while we in Europe create facts:”
Show the numbers now nedernazi not future fantasy numbers
“Sure, but we have Russia which greatly diminishes the geopolitical options of the US European vassals.”
Russia has you and you may end up a Russian colony again.
“Why do you think that Italy and even Germany only paid lip service of support to that impotent Syrian strike? They can’t afford to antagonize Russia. Meanwhile North Stream 2 is going ahead, regardless of what the Americans say or think.”
Who cares about Syria drama queen? How long did the concern about the first Syrian missile strikes last? Get over it and move on. You have to have bogus unimportant events to make stupid nonsense.
“Prepare for civil war, Amerikaantje. Why don’t you step on the plane and flee to Italy while there is still air traffic and pretend to be a Canadian, there high in the Italians Alps? You are going down, f*cker and hard.”
LMFAO, the board Nazi has been trying to ignore me but like billy 3rd world it can only last so long before I get his blood pressure up. The Dumb Dutch guy, if you would show basic respect with your extremist assertions, polarizing ideas, and embellished facts I would let you have some of your agenda. You can’t be an extremist with such an agenda. It is incomplete and patched together like a quilt. It is a fantasy future based on a revised history. It involves racist bigotry that all the stupid lonely old white guys on this board love to read. You are just pandering to losers and you are a loser.
Go F**K yourself and the horse you rode in on.
Cloggie on Fri, 20th Apr 2018 4:44 am
Haha, Meathead again with his links to a Dutch Neo-Natzi Gefira blog, carefully wrapped in a tinyurl.lol
https://openmigration.org/en/analyses/getting-to-know-gefira-and-the-identitarians-of-defend-europe-our-interviews/
Direct consequence of feminism, which should be criminalized once we have the stupid Marxist Empire down and out, after WW3.
Feminism again is a direct consequence of free sex and breaking of the contract “my eros against your provider-ship”.
For the record: Europe is overpopulated with 500 million. It would be a blessing if population would be reduced to 300-400 million. But currently, because of the forced membership of the Soros Open Society Empire (“The West”), declining population is replaced by useless Muslims and Africans, a catastrophe.
Luckily, America is going down the drain even faster, which gives us in Europe options. America will go before we do. And we have Russia and Ukraine and its endless resources as reserve Europeans. And we have sufficient folks in North-America, who would prefer “white lives” in a European subsidiary territory over being a despised minority in a third world country.
Actually our European PBM cards are rather good.
Now why don’t you start a war with China, just to show us how strong you are? Good luck. Attacking Iran will boil down to the same thing.
Cloggie on Fri, 20th Apr 2018 4:48 am
You are just pandering to losers and you are a loser.
Go F**K yourself and the horse you rode in on.
Meathead is angry and since we are living in a Darwinian universe it means he feels like he is a cornered animal.
Which is what he is. Or in his own recent phrasing: “it sucks to be an American”. So true. This is not 1945 but 2018, quite a difference.
Davy on Fri, 20th Apr 2018 4:54 am
“Direct consequence of feminism, which should be criminalized once we have the stupid Marxist Empire down and out, after WW3.”
Quit your stupid deflection nedernazi and get back to the topic of demographics and the end of Eurotard land and your precious PBM nonsense.
“Luckily, America is going down the drain even faster, which gives us in Europe options. America will go before we do. And we have Russia and Ukraine and its endless resources as reserve Europeans. And we have sufficient folks in North-America, who would prefer “white lives” in a European subsidiary territory over being a despised minority in a third world country.”
Sure nedernazi, we’re all going down together because of decline and decay of modernism. You are going down faster because of demographics. We have plenty of white people reproducing. I see them around here, not that it matters like you think it does. We are a 3rdworld/1st world country and this fact will ensure we have the strength to continue to exist. You are going to be absorbed by your southern neighbors as you old native lazy Eurotards die down.
“Actually our European PBM cards are rather good. Now why don’t you start a war with China, just to show us how strong you are? Good luck. Attacking Iran will boil down to the same thing.”
Probably a better chance of war in Europe but you can’t imagine that happening because you fantasize about PBM too much.
Davy on Fri, 20th Apr 2018 5:02 am
“Go F**K yourself and the horse you rode in on. Meathead is angry and since we are living in a Darwinian universe it means he feels like he is a cornered animal.”
Not at all you said f**K first loser
“Which is what he is. Or in his own recent phrasing: “it sucks to be an American”.
Why do you think I am American critical on an anti-American site? I am here because we have serious problems but you do too and you can’t face them. You are all about proselytizing Eurotard glory and victory and nothing about your problems. You are preaching hate and discontent because you are personally resentful of your failed history. A history you revise daily and ad-nauseum. If you do mention problems they are problems being solved in your fantasy future. You are a fake and a liar and I crush you daily with moderation. This is not hard to do with extremist who have unbalanced and tenuous assertions. Why do you think billy 3rd world disappears when I get on the board? He folds like a rat when I am here and his protector greggie is AWOL. I have noticed how you two are palling up because you both have problems maintaining your extremism when I neuter it with balance assertions.
Cloggie on Fri, 20th Apr 2018 5:21 am
You are going down faster because of demographics. We have plenty of white people reproducing. I see them around here, not that it matters like you think it does.
Uh no. EU 500 million aging EU-Europeans are facing this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Europe
In the late 20th and early 21st centuries substantial numbers of Muslims immigrated to Western Europe. By 2010 an estimated 44 million Muslims were living in Europe (6%), including an estimated 19 million in the EU (3.8%).[2] They are projected to comprise 8% by 2030.
Note “Europe” here means PBM (Atlantic-Pacific) or 700 million Europeans. Our demographics are FAR better than yours. The key to real change will be if sufficient North-Americans will want to make the swap away from Washington towards a global alliance of European peoples, the goal of the alt-right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGSAhNZnisk
I crush you daily with moderation. This is not hard to do with extremist who have unbalanced and tenuous assertions. Why do you think billy 3rd world disappears when I get on the board? He folds like a rat when I am here and his protector greggie is AWOL.
You are a pathetic clown and “moderating” or “crushing” exactly nobody. Nobody is afraid of you. Go back to your goats. Perhaps they need you (I doubt it).
makati1 on Fri, 20th Apr 2018 5:36 am
Cloggie, Davy and MM seem to have this sexual fetish. Neutering, rape of daughters, etc. Moderating, crushing, and school yard name calling. They have no idea how that looks to those of us who are mature and sane. Both are first class, number one losers.
Davy on Fri, 20th Apr 2018 5:57 am
“You are a pathetic clown and “moderating” or “crushing” exactly nobody. Nobody is afraid of you. Go back to your goats. Perhaps they need you (I doubt it).”
The demographics I showed you earlier are valid, nedernazi. They are from your own extremist Nazi group you idolize. Get a grip, Eurotard land is being absorbed by your southern neighbors. Soon you will be a stranger in your own land.
Davy on Fri, 20th Apr 2018 5:58 am
shut up billy 3rd world and say something and quit your whining. You are like a little yapping dog at a big dog fight.
makati1 on Fri, 20th Apr 2018 6:02 am
You, on the other hand, prove that you are delusional and insane, Davy, with EVERY post. Go tend your goats. They need serviced.
Davy on Fri, 20th Apr 2018 6:06 am
Say something stupid old man. The sun is coming up here and I am soon going out to my Native grass pasture to burn them. What did you do today? I imagine nothing because what good are you at 75 except to talk shit.
makati1 on Fri, 20th Apr 2018 6:08 am
Cloggie, Davy doesn’t own any mirrors because, if he looked in one, he would see what a useless piece of shit he really is.
This is fun. I could go on all evening teasing and insulting the Missouri mule, but I have better things to do now. The sun has been down for an hour and the breeze is cool. I’ll sit out on the porch and read one of my SF novels until bedtime. It’s nice to be retired AND prepared. Millions pay big money to visit here. I get it 24/7/365 cheap.
Cloggie on Fri, 20th Apr 2018 6:29 am
The demographics I showed you earlier are valid, nedernazi. They are from your own extremist Nazi group you idolize. Get a grip, Eurotard land is being absorbed by your southern neighbors. Soon you will be a stranger in your own land.
Not if we get rid of you and George Soros in time, the purpose of the coming WW3:
Eurasia-Anglosphere
Come on John Bolton, get on with it!
“Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran”
…and get some fine super-sonic Russian and Chinese weapons tested… and get oil flow from the Gulf to Europe halted, leaving only Russian oil and gas. One wonders what that will do to German leader attitudes? Not to mention the German population.
Poor Britain. Ah well, they can always rely on Norway, like in 1940 when they allowed the British to mine the Norwegian coast to prevent Swedish iron ore shipping via Narvik, the real reason why Germany was forced to invade Norway.
Who cares about Britain, Russia and China can provide Germany with everything they need, provided Germany has the proper attitude.
Cloggie on Fri, 20th Apr 2018 6:35 am
Hoppa, first WW3 rumblings:
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/20/asia/australia-china-south-china-sea-intl/index.html
China challenged Australian warships in South China Sea, reports say
The Chinese pick a smaller target first, like Australia, that lonely tasty prey for the Chinese dragon.
Won’t belong until no Anglo warship will be allowed in the South China Sea. Countries of 1350 million IQ100 inhabitants have standards, you know.
Cloggie on Fri, 20th Apr 2018 6:40 am
Who cares about Britain, Russia and China can provide Germany with everything they need, provided Germany has the proper attitude.
In the old days Germany and Italy only had freaking Japan as an ally. Today Russia and China are only one telephone call away. And Macron is suspiciously buddies with Trump, not George Soros. And then there are all these fashy Americans who opine that White Lives Matter.
If I was running a life insurance company, I would have second thoughts about having millimind and meathead as clients.
Antius on Fri, 20th Apr 2018 8:14 am
“Europe’s native population is not just aging, it is disappearing. The political and financial establishments rely on false official projections.”
So much for liberal (left-wing) values. When we project the long-term effects of these into the future, from every angle they look like the rot of civilisation.
Left wing / Marxist = Evil parasite, servant of Satan.
Conservative = Good.
Davy on Fri, 20th Apr 2018 8:16 am
Shut up billy 3rd world, you yapping dog, we know you are upset. Why not stay on topic and say something instead of showing how hurting our feelings are.