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Liquid Solar Technology Could Be Next Gen of Renewable Energy
“The first working prototype, created in 2009, was a quarter of a grain of rice in size”
Look out solar panels, there’s a new “first of its kind” solar technology in town!
Its makers said it’s engineered to outperform rooftop panels by 50-fold, and at a fraction of the cost. And this groundbreaking invention could potentially have the capability of turning an ordinary window into an electric socket.
Made up of the organic polymers carbon and hydrogen, the technology converts sun or artificial light sources into electricity when applied as a film layer to windows. Despite competition from many similar technologies not yet on the market, this innovation has stood the test of time.
For nearly 20 years, in response to global warming, numerous companies, research institutes, and federal agencies have been quietly developing and testing innovative ways to efficiently reduce greenhouse gas emissions. When the federal government began investing in carbon reducing projects in 2007, the solar industry ramped up its R&D.
With the demand for low cost, energy-efficient renewable energy increasing, company executives are clamoring to keep their groundbreaking inventions a secret, hoping to beat the competition in the race to commercialization. And while many corporate strategies veered off course resulting in company closures, executives at SolarWindow Technologies Inc. (SWT) said their unique product, which is applied wet, and then dries as a film coating, is nearly ready for the market.
Liquid Electricity
This electricity generating technology is made from organic earth-abundant materials, making it different from the plant-based photosynthesis technologies, which create chemical energy. John A. Conklin, CEO and president of SWT, explained that when light hits the technology, the mobility of electrons is activated, and that electron movement is electricity.
The Columbia, Maryland-based company is focused on scaling up the technology for its product, SolarWindow, which is a transparent, electricity generating coating for glass and plastics being developed for tall towers and skyscrapers—to turn them into electricity generators. One day the technology could be applied to single-family homes across America.
The first working prototype, created in 2009, was a quarter of a grain of rice in size.
The company’s first working prototype, created in 2009, was a quarter of a grain of rice in size. Later prototypes grew incrementally in size to today’s largest at 1 foot by 1 foot.
The vision is to be able to generate renewable electricity through solar windows on all four sides of skyscrapers.
Conklin said SolarWindows can power a 50-story building, while it would take six to eight acres of land for a conventional solar panel array to power the same building. “From a big picture perspective that basically takes all of the area of Central Park away just for a few buildings,” he said.
According to Conklin, the investment in SolarWindows for a 50-story building would be recovered after just one year of energy cost savings, compared to the six to eight years it takes for solar panels.
The solar window would be connected using the same wiring-based system as solar panels, but it would be connected in such a way that you don’t see wires coming from the modules.
The idea for getting the technology to market is to license it and the know-how to major glass manufacturers and fabricators around the world, who will bring the final product to fruition.
International energy expert, Peter Fox-Penner, a principal at economic and financial consulting firm The Brattle Group, said new solar products are a small fraction of the current energy supply, and that a large number of similar products exist, with more being invented.
“This technology fits in amongst many, many technologies that do similar things that are all going to be part of the landscape and all part of compliance with the Clean Power Plan,” he said, referring to the federal government’s plan for reducing carbon emissions.
Fox-Penner expects a gradual conversion to a largely renewable grid as more technologies are added in. He notes that regulatory rules are being rewritten so that it’s possible for utilities that run the power grid to make use of these new technologies.
Conklin is working to ensure that liquid electricity is among the choices, but said although there are similar technologies, they are still very different. He compared the liquid electricity technology to others that use dye sensitized solar cells, and another one that utilizes metals such as lead. He said those technologies are being used for rooftop solar panels, but SolarWindow will be integrated into the building.
Evolution of the Company
Founded in 1998 under the name Octillion Corp., the company underwent several transformations and experienced financial losses over the years. Continued strides in the last five years include partnerships and relationships with the U.S. Department of Energy National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL), and award-winning scientists and engineers from companies like Royal Dutch Shell and Duke Energy.
Conklin said Octillion Corp. was a technology incubator and development company. At that time the company had begun working on motion power, which later resulted in the formation of a subsidiary called Kinetic Energy Corp (KEC) in 2008. Octillion also changed its name to New Energy Technologies in 2008.
Around the same time, one of the directors in the company was looking at organic light-emitting diode technology and trying to determine if there was a potential use for it in the biotech space. Their discovery was made when a little bit of electricity was generated by applying a coating to glass. Although the voltage was very, very, low, it was the spark of an idea.
That spark led to the formation of another subsidiary, New Energy Solar Corporation in 2009. This subsidiary entered into an agreement with the University of South Florida, where SolarWindow was established, and a strategy for commercialization was realized.
In furtherance of the commercialization strategy, in March 2015 New Energy Technologies was renamed SolarWindow Technologies Inc.
Conklin touts the company’s success in outlasting strong competitors such as Konarka Technologies and Pythagoras Solar.
“Both of those companies had very different marketing strategies,” he said, “and as a result of their business strategies and product development, neither one of them are in business.”
For example, Conklin explains that despite all the money that Konarka invested in its technology, which was intended for building integrative photo voltaics (a similar application as SolarWindow) it commercialized a messenger bag and a solar umbrella, losing sight of its original goal.
A company must remain focused on its core strength.
“When we’re looking at success, and we’re looking at commercialization, a company must remain focused on its core strength,” Conklin emphasized, “and not dilute that with other product ideas that may sound great.”
In 2010, Conklin became the CEO and president of SWT at a time when its stock was at a low of 51 cents per share. Under his leadership, the stock has risen to $2.30 per share and SolarWindow has advanced toward commercialization.
Push for Commercialization Under Conklin
Infectiously positive and jovial, Conklin, who lives and works in upstate New York, has been married to his wife Lisa Conklin for 27 years and they have two sons in their 20s.
He was sought out by SWT in early 2010 to help the company identify ways to improve the methods of applying coatings and improve performance power and uniformity.
With 30 years of industrial, commercial, and renewable and alternative energy experience and a particular background in applying coatings as uniformly as possible, this almost 55-year-old family man was a good fit.
Conklin said the company implemented his recommendations and saw favorable results. In less than a year, the board of directors offered him the position as CEO.
But Conklin is no stranger to leadership roles as he already owns two companies. He takes pride in building teams. “I am an advocate of helping individuals excel and find their strengths among weaknesses and turning weaknesses into strengths,” he explained.
With Conklin at the helm, the company has seen some major accomplishments, such as new records for the size and performance of a solar window (validated by the United States Department of Energy at NREL), and an increase in shareholder numbers.
Future Success?
According to a June report by GTM Research, a division of Greentech Media, which provides market analysis, the cumulative global market for solar electricity is expected to triple by 2020 to almost 700 gigawatts. It predicts demand will be almost entirely market-based by 2020, as compared to 2012 when almost all demand was based on direct incentives.
SWT is hoping to tap into that market and has scheduled a webcast on Aug. 20 at 2 p.m. EST to give more information on a timeline for bringing its products to market.
Although he is not willing to reveal more details about the products at this time, Conklin did say that one of the window designs could be a fixture that you would actually plug into.
In addition, SWT has fabricated its SolarWindow in architecturally attractive colors, which Conklin said building designers, architects, building developers, and owners want. He adds that SWT’s technology “is being built for high speed, high volume, roll-to-roll, and sheet-to-sheet processing.”
41 Comments on "Liquid Solar Technology Could Be Next Gen of Renewable Energy"
davey thompsony on Sat, 1st Aug 2015 6:06 pm
Not much info on how and what this stuff is made of. Makes me think that this is a sales pitch for investment purposes.
Joe J on Sat, 1st Aug 2015 7:08 pm
Can’t wait to get these panels in my green house.
Another thought, you could better protect these panels by placing them up in your attic and running a solar tube or tubes to light them.
This could protect them from sudden window breakage due to weather or ornery grand children.
mk on Sat, 1st Aug 2015 7:23 pm
Watts per square meter with normal solar incidence?
Otherwise, I call BS
Harquebus on Sat, 1st Aug 2015 7:59 pm
“Could be” and “potentially” are the key words. Also used in conjunction with every other failed bright idea.
Davy on Sat, 1st Aug 2015 8:27 pm
Will it scale and scale in time? I doubt it. The technology is above my abilities but I am a skeptic on technologies. It seems too good to be true.
This quote sounds overly optimistic especially considering the economic slowdown in progress and excessive debt levels:
Article said “solar electricity is expected to triple by 2020 to almost 700 gigawatts.”
I want this to be true. I want this product at my doomstead. I want AltE to succeed. Yet, life unfortunately for humans is not concerned with human wants or needs. Nature follows its own course and we humans are not concerned with living within natures system. If this was the case we humans would not need solar panels because we would not be modern.
Mr. Ed Ko on Sat, 1st Aug 2015 9:07 pm
The current efficiency of the solar panels is about 20%. “Its makers said it’s engineered to outperform rooftop panels by 50-fold”- means that the panel will be producing 10 times more electric energy than it receives the radiation energy from Sun.
Then the article talks about people… Dates… Costs of shares… Total market size… But doesn’t mention how the creators of the new solar panels violated the energy conservation law.
Begum Fouzia on Sat, 1st Aug 2015 9:29 pm
Solar Window idea was not new, during my research work at WKU, our group devised a sample and the idea was put forwarded at a local news media with the analogy of “jus peel it, attach it to your window and turn the switch”.
However, I do agree current product is newer and much more refined. If finished product’s cost is in the normal range like other commercial solar products in the market then, I would like to congratulate this Renewable Energy Group. This effort will help us to move forward for Green Energy balance. Finally, I’ve composed a book on solar panel recently (see my website). I am seeking permission here from this “Solar Window” producer group to allow me to add news about this product to the next version of my book (due January, 2016). Please provide response to my pledge by giving me permission at your earliest convenience.
Begum Fouzia on Sat, 1st Aug 2015 9:45 pm
Solar Window idea was not new, during my research work at WKU, our group devised a sample and the idea was put forwarded at a local news media with the analogy of “jus peel it, attach it to your window and turn the switch”.
However, I do agree current product is newer and much more refined. If finished product’s cost is in the normal range like other commercial solar products in the market then, I would like to congratulate this Renewable Energy Group. This effort will help us to move forward for Green Energy balance. Finally, I’ve composed a book on solar panel recently (see my website). I am seeking permission here from this “Solar Window” producer group to allow me to add news about this product to the next version of my book (due January, 2016). Please provide response to my pledge by giving me permission at your earliest convenience.
Makati1 on Sat, 1st Aug 2015 9:50 pm
More hopium and dreams from the techie religion. An ad to get investors to pay for their dreams.
As of today, solar is less than 1% of the total energy produced so far this year, after, what, 20+ years of claims that it will replace hydrocarbons. Yawn…
davey thompsony on Sat, 1st Aug 2015 10:12 pm
The sad fact of solar and wind energy (at least so far)
is that even with these technologies, carbon emissions world wide are ever increasing year over year.
yukonfisher on Sat, 1st Aug 2015 10:42 pm
So if it works on windows, then it would also work on any substrate. Why not just paint it on roofs, walls, cars, dogs, everything? Why confine it to fragile windows? Heck, if it is so efficient, paint ti on existing PV panels, then you could add that 50 fold increase to the 20% efficiency and if you painted another layer on top….
BC on Sat, 1st Aug 2015 11:10 pm
As someone trained and experienced in engineering, computer science, and eCONomics (a thousand thousand pardons), something rarely acknowledged and discussed is the difference between “productivity” and innovation, efficiency, and novelty.
We can create all manner of novel efficiency from ingenious innovations, but these advances might never integrate cost effectively with existing infrastructure to necessary scale to increase capital formation, investment, production, profits, and durable physical, human, and intellectual “wealth” from increasing productivity.
The Internet was a breakthrough incremental innovation to the telegraph and telephone enabled by transistors, microelectronics, and fiber optics, for example. Google’s search algorithms and ability to quickly built out to scale on the existing Internet infrastructure was a highly disruptive AND enabling innovation.
But Google, Amazon, Ebay, and others are resulting in Schumpeterian “creative destruction” without NET GROWTH of capacity, sales, profits, employment, and purchasing power, i.e., “cannibalization”. This results in no net new growth of capital formation, labor product as a share of GDP, and thus no net productive “wealth” created.
Moreover, Facebook, Snapchat, Whatsapp, Instagram, Piniterest, Yelp, Groupon, and the rest are similarly encouraging cannibalization of the existing business ecosystem WITHOUT NET REPLACEMENT and growth of domestic capacity, output, employment, etc.
The point is that the acceleration of advances in IT, cloud, Big Data analytics, social media, renewables, and the like is quite innovative and novel but is not contributing to an increase in multi-factor productivity from increasing NET private investment, capital formation, production, output, employment, purchasing power, gov’t receipts, etc. In fact, the innovations are now contributing to, and self-reinforcing, net capital consumption (capital formation to GDP is at a 20-year low), a record low for wages as a share of GDP, and decelerating productivity.
Boat on Sat, 1st Aug 2015 11:24 pm
Mak,
I appreciate to you commenting with numbers.
http://www.seia.org/research-resources/solar-industry-data
the solar industry installed 32% of all new electricity generating capacity in the U.S.
To me that stat shows real promise for the future of solar. Down the road we all know FF will only go up. Solar prices are still on the downward trend.
Apneaman on Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 12:25 am
BC no apologies necessary for your econ 101 indoctrination. I’m sure they got to when you were young. I’ll just think of you like a wise fallen priest who no longer relies 100% on faith based arguments 😉
Plantagenet on Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 12:38 am
Good to near about this exciting new technology. I wish them luck with the R & D, and then with the production and marketing of this great new product.
Banjo on Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 3:06 am
Of 97.3 quadrillion BTU powering the US economy solar makes less than 1% check eia US primary energy production.
GregT on Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 3:08 am
We have some exceptionally dim examples of human intelligence here. Sadly, they are not in the minority.
Makati1 on Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 3:26 am
Exact: World energy production in 2015 to date:
Solar ~693,078 Billion BTUs.
…out of a total of 280,676,456 Billion BTUs as of this day and minute.
Solar is about .003% of the total energy produced in the world to date this year.
Banjo on Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 5:32 am
Don’t get me wrong this cheap solar paint will save us that or fusion or thorium.
Davy on Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 7:05 am
Boat said “the solar industry installed 32% of all new electricity generating capacity in the U.S.”
Boat that number sounds great until you look at how stagnant the electricity market is in the US. Don’t get me wrong I am pro AltE but I am not fooled by the numbers nor the promise of renewables. Total US electrical capacity is 322,000GW. Per cleantechnica we added 10 GW renewables in 2014. That is like adding 3 of the largest coal fired plant in the US the Robert Scherer Plant in Georgia. It will take a lifetime to convert capacity to renewables at that rate. Renewables just are not scaling in size or time to affect our energy predicament. The hardest part is yet to come as the easy sweet additions are made early. At some point significant infrastructure changes are needed. Boat where is all the money going to come from for all this needed investment? You are not impressing me Boat with your 32% bar room boast.
Total US electrical capacity per eia is 322,000 GW. http://www.eia.gov/electricity/
Sales growth per eia: “For the year, EIA expects U.S. retail sales of electricity to the residential sector during 2015 to grow by 0.3% from 2014 levels. Residential sales of electricity are expected to fall by 1.0% in 2016 in response to projected milder summer and winter temperatures next year that reduce cooling and heating-related consumption.” http://www.eia.gov/forecasts/steo/report/electricity.cfm
Size of added capacity per cleantechnica: natural gas was still the leading single energy source, in terms of installations during 2014, its 7.5 GW of added capacity is overshadowed by close to 10 GW from the renewable sector. http://cleantechnica.com/2015/02/03/solar-wind-53-new-us-electricity-capacity-2014/
Looking at additions in regards to the size of the largest US coal fired plant with 3.5GW of capacity. The Robert W. Scherer Power Plant is located in Juliette, Georgia, just north of Macon. Named for a former chairman and chief executive officer of Georgia Power, the $2.1 billion facility has operated since 1982 and consists of four, self-contained 880 megawatt units. http://gizmodo.com/5850299/americas-largest-coal-power-plant-burns-11-million-tons-of-bituminous-a-year
Boat on Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 7:31 am
Davy,
I agree with alot of your comment. I worded my comment that solar showed promise. Solar has not improved to the tipping point where it’s growth will explode like I think it will in the future. But, I think that within a few years you will see solar on almost all new construction only because it will be the cheapest energy going. And solar energy at home will be nice to power up that new electric car. Both technologies are still in their infancy.
Davy on Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 7:58 am
Boat, I hope so and I am ready to invest more. I already have 6 panels and 12 battery system. My concern is a stagnating economy that may be in contraction. If we contract enough we will not be able to afford much new solar. How many people or communities can afford new solar? It is just not a game changer currently and likely will not be. Yet, I hope it will and I hope I am just overly skeptical. I would love to be proved wrong. It would be a pleasant surprise. Can you imagine Doomer Davy becoming a closet corn.
Boat on Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 8:11 am
Davy,
I am still very worried about climate change and in that sense I am a doomer also. I get called a corn because I think we can hang on for 20 years or so and by then we will have a much clearer picture of our fate. Solar will have to improve a lot to make the kind of difference the world needs.
We word fight about nat gas and oil and a plethora of things when solar is the big difference in the end. I have a feeling the advancement solar will save the world, or not.
Kenz300 on Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 8:26 am
Wind and solar technology continue to advance.
Alternative energy sources keep getting safer, cleaner and cheaper than fossil fuels.
Renewable Energy Responsible for First Ever Carbon Emissions Stabilization – Renewable Energy World
http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/articles/2015/06/renewable-energy-responsible-for-first-ever-carbon-emissions-stabilization.html
Kenz300 on Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 8:29 am
The transition to safer, cleaner and cheaper alternative energy sources is growing in countries around the world.
Renewables to Beat Fossil Fuels With $3.7 Trillion Solar Boom – Renewable Energy World
http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/news/2015/06/renewables-to-beat-fossil-fuels-with-3-7-trillion-solar-boom.html
Makati1 on Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 8:45 am
BTW:
Over 1/2 of American households (4 persons) have an income under $40,000 per year.
Poverty level in the US starts at ~$30,000 for a family of 4.
The average credit card debt is currently $7,400 per family.
I would love to know there the money will come from for this “explosion” of personal solar?
Shula 71 on Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 9:32 am
You know if we would quit calling it
Green Energy and start calling it Conservative Energy you could probably get half the “we cant do this people” on board. Kills me how they cant understand LED’s, solar panels, and electric cars can diversify our energy consumption and by using less save some for the future. Its always we can do this we cant do that. Man were are the days of American can do Spirit. Sometimes you have to just do it even if it cost more than what you are using today. They built the highway system with 1 mile feeder miles. And yes it cost more than the horse and buggy trail.
Davy on Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 9:45 am
Shula, the problem is limits and decreasing marginal returns. What you say is also income dependent. The vast majority can’t afford the changes you mention. I always get back to scale in size and time. Don’t look to governments either. Governments are broke. Debt is done as a tool. I wish you were right but it is another fantasy in my mind.
DJG on Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 9:45 am
“it’s engineered to outperform rooftop panels by 50-fold”
If current solar panels are around 20% efficiency, the most improvement possible would be 5 fold.
Boat on Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 9:55 am
Shula,
Amen to that, politics are idea killers for those who don’t read. I know a lady who still uses the old light bulbs only because the Dem’s support LED. Until Glen Beck says it’s ok she will pay any price for the old style bulbs.
Same with religion, go forth and multiply is drilled into their heads. Nationalism, go forth and multiply. Spread that seed. Well it’s 2015 and plain o’l sustainable should be the rallying cry. Forget country, forget religion, be a world citizen, never have more than 2 children.
Unfortunately no politician could say that and get voted in. The world simply isn’t mature enough yet. We are like wild beasts or it’s still like the wild wild west.
Rafique Sobhany on Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 11:43 am
Let us be hopeful for the bounty of our Gracious Creator, Who is not unconcerned to His creatures like us. He provides whatever we need.Let the scientists to explore His Bounty as He declares;”And (He) has subjected to you all that is in the skies and all that is in the earth; it is all as a favor and kindness from Him. Verily, it are signs for a people who think deeply. Verse 13 of Al-Jathiyah.
Outcast_Searcher on Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 11:52 am
Mr. Ed Ko said it all. I noticed this right off — that the 50-fold panel performance increase is TOTALLY preposterous.
Usually scammers promoting perpetual motion machines and other such energy producing scams are at least intelligent enough to make the scam less than BLATANTLY obvious.
peterev on Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 2:00 pm
Makati,
There is supposedly $75 Trillion of credit floating around the world looking for good investments. If it will pay off, the guy with the $30K income and $4.7K in cc debit will likely be able to secure a loan.
But we will see if a deflationary depression catches up with that $75 Trillion pool of credit and how much it drains the pool.
peterev on Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 5:24 pm
In going to their site:
http://solarwindow.com/investors/sec-filings/
and reading their last 2 SEC statements, provides an interesting situation.
In their May 2015 quarter report (10-Q), they made no mention of any product and with the company lasting until October of this year.
In their latest 8K report, they mention a pathway to commercialization. Is this desperation or do they have something?
Harquebus on Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 7:54 pm
“Models often limit their life cycle or EROI analysis to just the solar panels themselves, which represents only a third of the overall energy embodied in solar PV plants. These studies left out dozens of energy inputs, leading to overestimates of energy such as payback time of 1-2 years (Fthenakis), EROI 8.3 (Bankier), and EROI of 5.9 to 11.8 (Raugei et al).”
“Solar has too many energy costs and dependencies on fossil fuels throughout the life cycle to produce much energy. It’s more of a “fossil-fuel extender” because PV can’t replicate itself, let alone provide energy beyond that to human society.”
http://energyskeptic.com/2015/tilting-at-windmills-spains-solar-pv/
“Windmills are too dependent on oil, from mining and fabrication to delivery and maintenance and fail the test of “can they reproduce themselves with wind power?””
“Not only would windmills have to generate enough power to reproduce themselves, but they have to make enough power to run civilization.”
“If the energy costs of intermittency, back-up conventional plant, and grid connection were added to the “cost” of windfarms, the EROEI would be far lower than current EROEI studies show.”
http://energyskeptic.com/2015/wind/
Harquebus on Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 7:57 pm
“Manufacturing wind turbines is a resource-intensive process. A typical wind turbine contains more than 8,000 different components, many of which are made from steel, cast iron, and concrete.
One such component are magnets made from neodymium and dysprosium, rare earth minerals mined almost exclusively in China, which controls 95 percent of the world’s supply of rare earth minerals.”
“There’s not one step of the rare earth mining process that is not disastrous for the environment.”
http://instituteforenergyresearch.org/analysis/big-winds-dirty-little-secret-rare-earth-minerals/
“This article seeks to explain why China’s environmental crisis is so horrific”
“Reckless dumping of industrial waste is everywhere in China. But what caught the attention of The Washington Post was that the Luoyang Zhonggui High-Technology Company was a “green energy” company producing polysilicon destined for solar energy panels sold around the world.”
“Polysilicon production produces about four tons of silicon tetrachloride liquid waste for every ton of polysilicon produced.”
“China’s rise has come at a horrific social and environmental cost.”
“for all the waste and pollution, most Chinese have gotten surprisingly little out of it all.”
“most of the world’s light-industrial goods are made in China and they are, for the most part, deliberately designed to be unrepairable and mostly unrecyclable.”
“High-speed trains are hugely expensive to build and operate and consume more than twice as much electricity to run as regular trains”
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/31478-china-s-communist-capitalist-ecological-apocalypse
Boat on Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 8:49 pm
Ladies and gentlemen, bow legged ants and cross eyed mosquitoes.
Makati1,
Poverty level in the US starts at ~$30,000 for a family of 4.
The average credit card debt is currently $7,400 per family.
I would love to know there the money will come from for this “explosion” of personal solar?
Elon Musk and the Miracle of Solar City.
http://www.slate.com/articles/business/the_juice/2015/07/solarcity_the_company_didn_t_invent_the_solar_panel_but_it_invented_something.html
Apneaman on Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 9:01 pm
Taxpayer Subsidies Helped Tesla Motors, So Why Does Elon Musk Slam Them?
Silicon Valley has always relied on the government to jump-start innovative businesses—no matter how much it clings to the go-it-alone narrative.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/10/tesla-motors-free-ride-elon-musk-government-subsidies
Elon Musk’s growing empire is fueled by $4.9 billion in government subsidies
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-musk-subsidies-20150531-story.html#page=1
Davy on Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 9:26 pm
Ape man, nailed it with Mr. Elon. He is good at shopping the government. There is nothing particularly revolutionary about his products. He is just good at tit position. He’s got front tit leaving hind tit for the normal folks. You have to admire the guy for knowing his tits.
Boat on Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 9:45 pm
Tits it is. What he is doing is providing electricity cheaper and locking in the price for the home owner that otherwise couldn’t afford or get credit for solar.That link was a response was to Mak who apparently didn’t know such a company existed.
Do you know how those government loans came into existence?
Kenz300 on Mon, 3rd Aug 2015 11:07 am
Solar energy gets cheaper every year…….
Seems like safer, cleaner and cheaper alternative energy sources continue to advance. More cities, states and countries are moving to adopt alternative energy targets.
World Moves Toward 100 Percent Renewable Energy – First Electricity, Then Heating/Cooling, and Finally Transportation – Renewable Energy World
http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/articles/2015/07/world-moves-toward-100-percent-renewable-energy-first-electricity-then-heating-cooling-and-finally-transportation.html