Page added on April 27, 2013
Let’s start out with a fact: the free market for energy is a myth.
Every country uses subsidies in some way to encourage production and dictate consumption of different forms of energy. According to the International Monetary Fund, global post-tax subsidies for fossil fuels (which includes the external costs of pollution) amounted to $1.9 trillion in 2011. And IMF said that figure is an “underestimate.” The IEA also estimates that global consumption subsidies for fossil fuels reached $523 billion in 2011.
Here in the U.S., the government practically gives away taxpayer-owned coal to mining companies. It provides billions of dollars to the oil and gas industry in the form of preferential tax treatment. And the fracking boom, which is often held up as a shining example of the free market, was spurred by strong R&D funding, government cost-sharing programs, and tax credits that helped an unproven technology reach wildly successful commercial scale.
And now, of course, we have billions of dollars in specialized tax subsidies, rebates, certificate trading programs and utility programs like net metering to encourage the production of renewable energy.
The conversation around how to handle subsidies — which has become more heated as renewables scale — is where facts and opinions start bleeding together. The heated opinions about the issue were on full display at GTM’s Solar Summit this week during a panel discussion called “The Transition to a Post-Subsidy Reality.”
The debate around subsides within the U.S. solar industry is manifesting itself in different ways.
On the federal level, the looming 20 percent reduction of the investment tax credit in 2016 is raising questions about whether the industry can pull together an extension, compromise on a longer-term phase-out, or simply live on without the credit. While the trade groups in Washington are thinking about the issue, businesses around the country are more focused on the local fights that have a more immediate impact.
On the state level, there’s a growing political campaign among conservative groups to repeal or water down renewable energy targets through the legislature. While those efforts have failed thus far, many utilities are already far ahead of their procurement targets — effectively creating the same outcome. Colorado’s “solar cliff” is proof of that.
But the true battle over subsidies is on the individual utility level, where a number of companies are working to cap or kill net metering as more distributed energy comes on-line. The utilities say the solar industry is spreading too many costs to ratepayers who can’t afford solar, while also failing to pay its fair share for transmission and distribution infrastructure. The solar industry says the utilities are threatened by the rapid emergence of distributed energy and are trying to suppress a technology that threatens their outdated business model.
Whatever your opinion on the reasons behind utility restrictions, the impact isn’t good for solar.
“The residential solar industry will be crippled if net metering goes away,” said Bryan Miller, vice president of public policy and power markets at Sunrun, in an interview. Given that Sunrun is one of the largest providers of residential solar leases in the country, the company isn’t hiding its willingness to fight in public.
At this week’s summit in Arizona — a state where nearly all solar incentive programs are getting dismantled — Sunrun’s CEO, Ed Fenster, came ready to throw some punches at Arizona Public Service for its solar policies. The relationship between utilities and solar companies has always been somewhat tenuous. But this week’s panel discussion was a notable change in tone. The net metering issue is definitely where battle lines are being drawn on the subsidy issue for solar.
Pull up a chair, get some popcorn and watch the session below. Then let us know your reaction to the discussion.
18 Comments on "Is Solar Energy Prepared to Enter a Post-Subsidy World?"
Arthur on Sat, 27th Apr 2013 2:54 pm
“Is Solar Energy Prepared to Enter a Post-Subsidy World?”
Yes.
http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/top-chinese-manufacturers-will-produce-solar-panels-for-42-cents-a-wat
mike on Sat, 27th Apr 2013 5:52 pm
No. Like Oil it should have 100 YEARS of subsidy. America wants to be Number 1 in Solar Cell production and efficiency, if this takes Government Investment, like CHINA, then so be it.
Solar = American Jobs.
Arthur on Sat, 27th Apr 2013 6:59 pm
“America wants to be Number 1 in Solar Cell production and efficiency, if this takes Government Investment, like CHINA, then so be it. Solar = American Jobs.”
Don’t want to be a party pooper but American hands are ten times as expensive as Chinese hands, the reason why most panels come from China.
The equipment btw used by cheap Chinese hands to produce solar cells for a large part comes from Germany. My honest kind advice: drop any idea about a Washington run NWO, leave the WTO, close your borders, c.q. erect high tariff walls, and start producing both panels and manufacturing equipment against much lower wages (but still higher than Chinese).
Others on Sat, 27th Apr 2013 7:10 pm
Average price / watt is only 67 cents.
http://pv.energytrend.com/pricequotes.html
But the installing companies are charging very high price and also the county and city governments are preventing the solar panels from being installed.
In Germany it costs only $2/ installed watt, while in US its more than $4 because of these obstructions. If we remove it, then Solar will grow like in Europe.
rollin on Sat, 27th Apr 2013 8:27 pm
Obviously the power generation industry does not see the tremendous business opportunities in solar and wind power.
BillT on Sun, 28th Apr 2013 4:13 am
Rollin, the power companies have huge investments in old plants of various kinds that require more and more maintenance to keep on line. Add in a transmission system that is antique and not able to handle fluctuations caused by thousands of small, irregular feed-ins from home solar and you have a financial bottleneck.
The consumer is cutting back on consumption as their incomes shrink or disappear. That mean less money coming in to keep up with changes, and also provide a profit to share holders.
No, we are about 30 years to late to make any significant changes anywhere in the world. Alternates will extend the hydrocarbon energy available, but it will not replace it. When the cost goes above the ability to pay, the game is over.
GregT on Sun, 28th Apr 2013 8:09 am
Even if we had of installed solar panels on every roof top world wide, it would not even begin to solve our dilemma. Electricity is a byproduct of the fossil fuel age. Everything that we use electricity for, requires fossil fuels. Our entire economic and monetary systems require fossil fuels.
As fossil fuels run out, our economies will collapse, our resource and transportation systems will collapse, our pharmaceutical industries will collapse, our food production and distribution systems will collapse, and our populations will collapse.
What we have done so far, thanks to our exploitation of fossil fuels, has caused the planet’s biological systems to collapse. If we continue on with our flawed sense of reality, and keep believing that we are somehow above nature, nature will remove us for good.
We are not in control here, and we are not necessary for the continuation of life on this planet.
Arthur on Sun, 28th Apr 2013 8:23 am
“When the cost goes above the ability to pay, the game is over.”
What does that mean, ‘game over’. When an American worker will be paid 200$/month, just like the Soviets were, he will do the job anyway, because he has no choice. The potential for contraction in the west is gigantic.
“Everything that we use electricity for, requires fossil fuels. Our entire economic and monetary systems require fossil fuels.”
That’s being repeated like a mantra, but please give me an example of an ESSENTIAL artifact (not plastic coffee cups) that requires oil. There was organized society before the rise of oil, you know. So, give me an example of an essential ingredient of modern society that needs oil and cannot be replaced with electricity from renewable sources.
There is none.
GregT on Sun, 28th Apr 2013 9:09 am
Arthur,
Take a look around you, at every single thing that is in your home, right now, and name one thing that has not been touched by oil. Including your entire electrical grid, from the copper wiring, to the plastic coatings, to the transformers, insulators, transistors, capacitors, connectors, and the power generation sources themselves. Every last one of them requires fossil fuels. No exceptions.
There was organized society pre-oil, and it did not include anything that you would think to be normal. Unless you are living far below what we in the ‘first world’ consider to be poverty by todays standards.
Oil is not essential for our survival, the Earth is. If we do not stop destroying the Earth’s ecosystems with our insane idea that we are somehow above nature, we are done as a species on this planet. We are already well on our way to extinction. Expecting to continue on as we have for the last several hundred years, will be the end of not only humanity, but the rest of the biodiversity on this planet.
We have a responsibility here, not to our own greed, but to those that follow behind us. To continue on as we have been is not only irresponsible, it is immoral.
Arthur on Sun, 28th Apr 2013 10:35 am
Greg, the fact that “copper wiring, plastic coatings, transformers, insulators, transistors, capacitors, connectors, and the power generation sources” are being produced using electricity from oil NOW, does not mean they can’t be produced by electricity from renewables and biofuel TOMORROW, admittedly in much lower quantities, because the emerging renewable energy infrastructure will not be able to produce energy in quantities we were used to. But if we ‘wipe off the map’ (by necessity) cars and planes and trucks, the remaining energy footprint will have been reduced to supportable levels. The emerging renewable energy sources are a new factor and they are going to make the difference between Bill’s Ponderosa society and my Ponderosa-plus society or the just-enough-society.
“We have a responsibility here, not to our own greed, but to those that follow behind us. To continue on as we have been is not only irresponsible, it is immoral.”
Life is amoral. The coming changes will be forced upon us by hard constraints imposed on us by mother nature, not ‘moral enlightenment’. Think about that when you scratch the ice from your truck’s windshield.
Kenz300 on Sun, 28th Apr 2013 1:57 pm
Solar Energy production is growing around the world.
Solar power produced 100% of new energy on U.S. grid in March | SmartPlanet
http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/bulletin/solar-power-produced-100-of-new-energy-on-us-grid-in-march/18083?tag=nl.e660
mike on Sun, 28th Apr 2013 2:47 pm
Solar Panels are an ENERGY MULTIPLIER.
It does Not Cost 100 dollars of oil energy to get a return of 100 dollars of solar energy, or NO ONE would build solar Panels.
The panels repay their build cost in Months.
From then on, they are in investment paying Dividends to the buyer.
BillT on Sun, 28th Apr 2013 3:12 pm
I guess we can all hold our on opinions on the future. Not much is said about recent studies that the oceans may rise 6 feet (not inches) in the next 40 years. Or that most of the current grain belts will be desert by then, or that a runaway greenhouse effect may get triggered, killing all of us this century.
But, if you open your eyes and look around, the West is crumbling, even your country, Arthur. It is not self sufficient. No country is in today’s world. When the financial system crashes, we are all going to find out that what we thought it would be like is nothing like what it becomes. Not even close. We built our world on cheap plentiful energy. It is now crumbling around us. Nothing we can do but adjust or deny.
GregT on Sun, 28th Apr 2013 4:42 pm
We are part of the Earth’s natural biological, and ecological systems. We need to live within the confines of those systems, or we will destroy the very systems themselves that give us life.
Our harnessing of excess energy is what has caused all of the degradation of the planet, it is the cause of overpopulation, and it is the cause of our belief that we live outside of the confines and laws of nature. It is a flawed ideology. If we do not rethink what we are doing, and learn how to live WITHIN the confines and constraints of nature, we will be WITHOUT life.
Our planet is dying, every single natural system on Earth is in a state of decline. All biological systems collapse rapidly, once they reach their ‘tipping points’. We do not have decades left to stop a global mass extinction event. Mother nature IS going to force constraints on us. If we get our act together now, billions will most likely die, if we do not, we are done as a species on this planet, and we will take most of the rest of life on earth with us.
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