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Energy From Fusion In Two Years
TAE Technologies will bring a fusion-reactor technology to commercialization in the next five years, its CEO announced recently at the University of California, Irvine.
“The notion that you hear fusion is another 20 years away, 30 years away, 50 years away—it’s not true,” said Michl Binderbauer, CEO of the company formerly known as Tri Alpha Energy. “We’re talking commercialization coming in the next five years for this technology.”
That trajectory is considerably sooner than Binderbauer described when he took over as CEO in 2017. It would put TAE ahead of two formidable competitors. The 35-nation ITER project expects to complete its demonstration reactor in France in 2025. Vancouver-based General Fusion Inc. is devoting the next five years, with support from the Canadian government, to developing a prototype of its fusion reactor. And the Massachusetts Institute of Technology announced last March that it expects to bring its fusion reactor to market in ten years.
For more than 20 years TAE has been pursuing a reactor that would fuse hydrogen and boron at extremely high temperatures, releasing excess energy much as the sun does when it fuses hydrogen atoms. Lately the California company has been testing the heat capacity of its process in a machine it named Norman after the late UC Irvine physicist Norman Rostoker.
Its next device, dubbed Copernicus, is designed to demonstrate an energy gain. It will involve deuterium-tritium fusion, the aim of most competitors, but a milestone on TAE’s path to a hotter, but safer, hydrogen-boron reaction.
Binderbauer expects to pass the D-T fusion milestone within two years.
“What we’re really going to see in the next couple years is actually the ability to actually make net energy, and that’s going to happen in the machine we call Copernicus,” he said in a “fireside chat” at UC Irvine, appearing alongside actor Harry Hamlin (of “Clash of the Titans” and “LA Law”), who was an early supporter and a co-founder of the company.
Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen was another prominent supporter, and Alphabet/Google a shareholder. More after the jump…
TAE’s Copernicus project will demonstrate energy from fusion, the company’s CEO said.National Academy of Sciences
TAE has been funded so far by more than $500 million in private equity.
“An endeavor as monumental as this requires an upfront commitment of very substantial proportions, which runs counter to the way most R&D money is parceled out,” according to the company’s website. “With TAE operating as a private company, we have been able to research, experiment and iterate more rapidly than our competition.”
But TAE is ready now to talk to the government.
“We’re in the process of funding and putting that project together right now,” Binderbauer said of Copernicus. “We’re working actually for the first time with the DOE, in some form of a relationship where they’re gonna contribute some in-kind, and this will be a sort of public-private partnership to pull that off, and then it goes to commercialization.”
61 Comments on "Energy From Fusion In Two Years"
Duncan Idaho on Tue, 15th Jan 2019 7:12 pm
We shall see if they can get positive return of energy in 2 years.
That is the bottom line—
I would not hold your breath.
makati1 on Tue, 15th Jan 2019 7:22 pm
As Duncan said, we will see if this proves out or is just more hot air. My money is on it not happening.
Fusion has been in the news for years but suddenly, a company pops up with the answer? Smells like the fish market I shop at regularly. lol
Outcast_Searcher on Tue, 15th Jan 2019 9:06 pm
Just because they manage to reach break even is a VERY different thing than reaching the kind of stability, consistency, reliability, scalability, cost structure, maintainability, etc. needed for real world commercialization.
I think the five years until commercialization (unless that means one small test site or something) is even less believable than the two-year break-even result.
To me, hot fusion needs to be proven to be believed. When it’s a close call as to whether lots of power providers choose PROVEN hot fusion or another energy source, then I’ll get excited about hot fusion.
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 15th Jan 2019 9:38 pm
Outcast
You are going to be bent over and gang raped till you bleed out of your fucking asshole..Before fusion every arrives..You dumb piece of soggy white bread..
https://medium.com/@Cliffhanger1983/the-collapse-of-civilization-manifesto-2039c6a5327
Now back to the forum where you can censor anyone who is sophisticated..
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 15th Jan 2019 9:43 pm
China May Have $5.8 Trillion in Hidden Debt With ‘Titanic’ Risks
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-16/china-may-have-5-8-trillion-in-hidden-debt-with-titanic-risks
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 15th Jan 2019 10:20 pm
Roku Removes Infowars Channel Following Backlash
https://variety.com/2019/digital/news/roku-removes-infowars-channel-1203109417/
Cloggie on Tue, 15th Jan 2019 10:32 pm
Still there:
https://www.infowars.com
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 15th Jan 2019 10:36 pm
Poll: A majority of Americans support raising the top tax rate to 70 percent
https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/425422-a-majority-of-americans-support-raising-the-top-tax-rate-to-70
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 15th Jan 2019 10:37 pm
Clogg
That is just his website not what the article was saying..You retard..Put down the key board grandpa..
Your as dumb as brick..No knowledge of technology..
makati1 on Tue, 15th Jan 2019 10:54 pm
MOB just keep proving his immaturity and lack of intelligence…lol
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 15th Jan 2019 11:00 pm
Mak
I am not the one who though China had a very low debt..because you didnt know they omit the actual number from their statistics..
You fucking do gooder, too bad you couldn’t do good at marriage!
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 15th Jan 2019 11:08 pm
The way clogg foams at the mouth for billionaire elites like Putin and Trump..He is gayer than the volleyball scene in Top Gun…
makati1 on Tue, 15th Jan 2019 11:28 pm
MOB, too bad you didn’t do very well with life. Third grade insults are laughable.
If you believe that the US gov’t numbers are real, you are a fool. I know most financial numbers today are manipulated from the government to corporations to personal tax returns. I just see more of a future in China than in the US. Just look at the leadership. Enough said.
Cloggie on Tue, 15th Jan 2019 11:39 pm
“You are going to be bent over and gang raped till you bleed out of your fucking asshole..Before fusion every arrives..You dumb piece of soggy white bread..”
Hitler had a point. What’s wrong with putting mobster on a train to the East?
makati1 on Tue, 15th Jan 2019 11:53 pm
I’ll buy the ticket if it is to the Middle East! We don’t want his kind (immature/stupid/arrogant)in Asia. ^_^
MOB is most likely going to end up being a boy toy for some huge gang thug. I hope he stocks up on a lot of lube. LOL
makati1 on Tue, 15th Jan 2019 11:57 pm
BTW: One Way = Chicago to Mecca = ~$1,200.00 ^_^
I AM THE MOB on Wed, 16th Jan 2019 3:58 am
Mak
Who said I believe the US numbers? You dumb shit old geezer? I am not a naive uneducated hick like you..
makati1 on Wed, 16th Jan 2019 5:40 am
MOB, you keep proving my assertion that you are an immature, stupid, arrogant snowflake. A Davy clone. Nothing more. Get a job and out of your mom’s basement.
Antius on Wed, 16th Jan 2019 6:04 am
There is a strong possibility that fusion experiments carried out thus far have concentrated on entirely the wrong approach. The power density of a fusion plasma is proportional to the square of ion density. Trying to generate energy from a diffuse plasma at 100million Kelvin – which has a density of micrograms per cubic metre – is a tall order.
A better approach might be to focus on inertial confinement, maybe some sort of hypervelocity impact approach.
https://arxiv.org/pdf/nucl-ex/9811009.pdf
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0168900209005683
This can achieve plasma density of 570,000kg per cubic metre – about twelve orders of magnitude greater than a Tokamak.
Of course, there is huge institutional inertia to overcome. Many scientists and public officials have invested their careers in magnetically confined fusion and will fight any attempt to change approach. So it comes down to the question of how much the public really does want this. Are they prepared to force change in the hope of developing a new clean energy source?
twocats on Wed, 16th Jan 2019 6:29 am
PSA:
Time of death for this thread – I AM THE MOB on Tue, 15th Jan 2019 9:38 pm
post mortem spasm at – Antius on Wed, 16th Jan 2019 6:04 am
Davy on Wed, 16th Jan 2019 7:14 am
“US Coal Retirements In 2018 Could Be As High As 15.4 Gigawatts”
https://tinyurl.com/ybjju297
“A total of 16.9 gigawatts (GW) of US power generation was retired in 2018 according to figures published by S&P Global Market Intelligence including 11.8 GW worth of coal-fired power capacity, accounting for nearly 70% of all 2018 power retirements and solidifying the country’s trend away from coal. However, S&P’s figures contrast with coal retirement figures published by other analyst figures which suggest US coal retirements in 2018 could have reached as high as 15.4 GW. According to a snippet from S&P Global Market Intelligence’s article (otherwise hidden behind a paywall), coal-fired capacity retirements accounted for nearly 70% of total power capacity retired in 2018, while gas-fired resources accounted for another 22.4% of retirements, at 3,789 megawatts (MW). Regarding coal-fired retirements specifically, the total of 11,800 MW retired in 2018 more than doubled the amount retired in 2017.”
jj on Wed, 16th Jan 2019 7:16 am
20 years ago they said they would have a cure for baldness in the next 5 years.
Jeff on Wed, 16th Jan 2019 7:55 am
I’m planning myself to achieve before 2024 a perpetual motion engine with infinite, clean and powerfull energy based on magnets, wheels and nails. Please send me money.
Cloggie on Wed, 16th Jan 2019 9:44 am
Australian impressions from TU Eindhoven, where students are preparing the latest version of their 4p solar car and hopefully win again in Australia, World Solar Challenge in October this year (for a 4th time in a row):
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2019/01/16/impressions-car-solar-team-eindhoven/
The car of solar team Eindhoven is “energy net-positive”, that is it produces more electricity than needed for average Dutch driving patterns.
The goal is to adapt the design and make it ever more practical.
Sissyfuss on Wed, 16th Jan 2019 10:30 am
TAEs fusion process will involve combining hopium atoms with Ponzi quarks to produce ineluctable spasms of delusionary sunburn on any and all stockholders. A can’t miss investment.
I AM THE MOB on Wed, 16th Jan 2019 11:19 am
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
– H.L. Mencken
tahoe1780 on Wed, 16th Jan 2019 11:30 am
Too late. https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/search/label/Aaron%20Franklin
I AM THE MOB on Wed, 16th Jan 2019 11:35 am
Richard Spencer’s wife details years of alleged domestic violence against her
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/richard-spencer-wife-domestic-violence-nina-kouprianova-alt-right-russia-a8729226.html?utm_source=reddit.com
I AM THE MOB on Wed, 16th Jan 2019 12:07 pm
Warning to Davos: world ‘sleep-walking’ into climate disaster
https://phys.org/news/2019-01-davos-world-sleep-walking-climate-disaster.html
Cloggie on Wed, 16th Jan 2019 12:25 pm
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
– H.L. Mencken
Whose throats?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1990/01/12/mencken-just-plain-antisemitism/2e4272e6-dadd-411b-aa3d-0c601c165023
Mencken: MENCKEN, H. L. 20th century American writer. “The Jews could be put down very plausibly as the most unpleasant race ever heard of. As commonly encountered they lack any of the qualities that mark the civilized man: courage, dignity, incorruptibility, ease, confidence. They have vanity without pride, voluptuousness without taste, and learning without wisdom. Their fortitude, such as it is, is wasted upon puerile objects, and their charity is mainly a form of display
Mencken is talking about you, mobster, you genocidal twat.
Cloggie on Wed, 16th Jan 2019 12:36 pm
“Richard Spencer’s wife details years of alleged domestic violence against her”
Probably the usual maneuvering in a custody battle.
https://youtu.be/19tj6KAInuo
Spencer reacts to violence accusations:
https://youtu.be/Nq7Lg-Xa1oI
I AM THE MOB on Wed, 16th Jan 2019 12:57 pm
Clogg
Why do you hate people for the way they are born? That doesn’t make any sense..And race doesn’t exist..There is only one race, the human race..
Cloggie on Wed, 16th Jan 2019 1:24 pm
“Why do you hate people for the way they are born?”
I hate sadists, who revel in getting millions killed. Basterds like you, who doesn’t even hide his genocidal intent against white people. Read this and think of mobster.
https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/repute.htm
“And race doesn’t exist..There is only one race, the human race..”
Yep, the communist creed. All nations should be destroyed and mixed, without distinct identity and owned by Jews. The essence of America, extended over the entire planet. Thank God, your fellow kikes admit the project has failed:
https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2019/01/07/the-good-news-zog-is-dying/
With beer and popcorn, with Dresden etc in the back of my mind, I am going to witness how the Chinese will give you a thorough geopolitical haircut, all the while using Brexit to finally escape from the shithole aka the West. Enjoy your demise and say hello to Yahweh from me.
Anonymouse on Wed, 16th Jan 2019 3:53 pm
What?! you expect Davyturds retard sock to do praying to Yahweh for you now? Are you too lazy to do even that? What would your rabbi make of that cloggenfraud? I think that is carrying this whole ‘chosen people’ fraud your kind subscribe too a little too far dont you think? I mean, you yids are expected, at a minimum, to do your own praying. I’m pretty sure it is in your contract you lazy bastard.
And FYI davy dumbass is not technically a yid like you cloggedscphincter. He is one of those nutter Christian Millennialism types. Same group of dumbass as you, different department.
Davy on Wed, 16th Jan 2019 4:15 pm
Anon, I am still waiting on your tar sand clarifications. Lmfao, you know you look so stupid when you try to be anti-American beyond what is real. Like the clogged says tic toc tic toc
makati1 on Wed, 16th Jan 2019 6:03 pm
“So it comes down to the question of how much the public really does want this. Are they prepared to force change in the hope of developing a new clean energy source?”
Antius, “the public” has no clue what fusion even is, nor do they care. There will be no “forced change”. There will only be BAU until it ends.
makati1 on Wed, 16th Jan 2019 6:07 pm
Antius, I meant to say the Chinese don’t give a shit. They have plenty of coal and a desire to maintain BAU and they believe BAU will never end just like I believe I will live to 105.
I AM THE MOB on Wed, 16th Jan 2019 6:14 pm
Republicans’ one message: be afraid so we can cut rich people’s taxes
https://i.imgur.com/PLn0E3f.jpg
makati1 on Wed, 16th Jan 2019 6:32 pm
Fake: makati1 on Wed, 16th Jan 2019 6:07 pm
JuanP on Fri, 18th Jan 2019 7:22 am
I am back, bitches! I just got back from a surfing vacation in Costa Rica. I am recharged and refreshed, and ready to continue fucking with the Exceptionalist and his multiple personalities for the foreseeable future.
Cloggie on Sat, 19th Jan 2019 2:57 am
Forget fusion, here is something that works now and is relatively simple and possible with world-wide implications.
Located at the Dutch-Belgian border there is a zinc-factory Nyrstar…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnTlAR9LqnQ
…that smells a giant new business opportunity. Their core business is producing zinc from zinc-ore (zinc-oxide) through electrolysis and/or smelting (very dirty and energy intensive):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc_smelting
Their end-product is zinc, mainly for the building-industry.
However, there is a new application looming at the horizon, now that Europe has embarked on a 100%-renewable energy future, backed by the Paris Accords: using lithium (Li), boron (B), magnesium (Mg), aluminum (Al), silicon (Si), iron (Fe), and zinc (Zn) or other metals AS A FUEL:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5iTxoHOdBY
The idea is to replace burning fossil fuels with burning metal powders and next reduce the resulting metal-oxides with renewable energy (electrolysis of metal oxides, reduction of metal-oxides with hydrogen or other methods like bacteria) and as such create a closed, carbon-free loop.
In this view, a traditional zinc factory like Nyrstar, could become the next Royal Dutch Shell, in that it specializes in reducing metal-oxides with every renewable kWh it can lay its hands on.
That is the thought behind the upcoming Metalot campus:
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2019/01/18/metalot-campus/
…finding out how to set up a possible metal powder fuel base for the economy of the future, with hydrogen as a possible/likely intermediary stage for metal-oxide reduction purposes.
Budel, Hoofdstraat 1, The Netherlands.
Perhaps Antius can put that address in his contact list of interesting potential future employment opportunities.
I mean, somebody has to save BP.lol
Zinc deposits around the world:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc#/media/File:World_Zinc_Production_2006.svg
Chinese, Americans, Australians, Kazakhs, etc., dig up the ore, while Europeans do the creating thinking. Now that’s a division of labor I can live with.lol
https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/09/26/origin-scientific-accomplishments/
Cloggie on Sat, 19th Jan 2019 3:50 am
Brexit saga continued:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6609163/Theresa-leaves-EU-leaders-disbelief-fails-make-new-Brexit-demands.html
It is meanwhile clear how everybody ticks:
Corbyn: morbidly wants no deal Brexit and use subsequent Marxist Verelendung…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immiseration_thesis
…to trigger an old-school 1917-style commie revolution, directed against “the rich”. A direct consequence of Britain still being very much a class society.
Tory ultra-Brexiteers: Johnson, Rees-Mogg, Raab, etc. Deeply anti-European, Anglo-globalist. Want ZOG-USA, not Europe to be the global top dog (it is going to be China anyway, but PBM+USA-Heartland together can contain China). Want to create an oligarch, low-tax, business heaven, giving the finger to British white identitarians, an absolute horror for the UK deplorable commoners, who are merely reduced to the status of economic resource and will be forced to live among ever greater numbers of Indians, Pakistani and other Commonwealth darkies, cherry picked from the British empire of former fame.
Theresa May – closet Remainer. She really wants the compromise Barnier-Raab deal to succeed. Her all-or-or-nothing strategy is: gain time until shortly before the March 29 deadline and then call the bluff of Westminster: either we tumble into a no-deal Brexit, with near-catastrophic economic consequences or we accept the unchangeable fact that we are located near continental Europe and our strongest economic ties by far are with Europe. They are 6 times as big as we are, a fact we can’t ignore. They are prepared to strike a deal, which leaves our economy in one piece and give us some geopolitical maneuvering space. That’s it. Now raise your hand for the entire nation to see. You will be held responsible for generations to come if you don’t accept reality, as expressed by Lord Heseltine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLOFDuei1VQ
So, here we are. We have:
– Corbyn as Lenin
– Johnson as Churchill
– May as Chamberlain
Obviously I prefer “Chamberlain”, but would still prefer “Churchill” over Remain, as long as we continental Europeans gain the freedom to team up with Russia and together in a non-alliance with China, dismantle ZOG, just like ZOG and USSR prepared for the dismantling of the European empires as of 1933, without being official alleys (until 1942).
If May wins, Britain can remain neutral in the upcoming dismantling of the US empire by Eurasia (EU, Russia and China). If Johnson wins, expect the UK to fall apart and England destroyed in WW3.
Anonymouse on Sat, 19th Jan 2019 4:16 am
What part of, no one here really gives a shit, didnt you get, cloggedtoilet? Are you slow in head or something? Confused? Lost? All of the above?
Cloggie on Sat, 19th Jan 2019 4:50 am
Sorry I know all my renewables and A.I will save the day rants are extremly annoying to everyone but I need to do it to reassure myself that all will be good
Because the alternative is too scary to think about.
Cloggie on Sat, 19th Jan 2019 4:55 am
Btw I’m retired and I’ve got nothing better to do than troll the Interweb for good news story’s about how wind and solar will save our sorry asses.
Cloggie on Sat, 19th Jan 2019 5:21 am
What part of, no one here really gives a shit, didnt you get, cloggedtoilet? Are you slow in head or something? Confused? Lost? All of the above?
Our house-negro still loves to imagine he has a mandate to speak for all here.
Remember this board-bro, your only role in North-American life is to help the restoration of European power by helping crashing North-America through the floor demographically and driving demoralized and drugged whitey into secession.
When the worst disaster in the history of the white race and European civilization, I mean the United States of America, will finally be solved, in that it disappears from history, perhaps we can find you a job as an English teacher, on a Eurasian payroll, somewhere in sub-Saharan Africa, so you can teach your pupils how to spell “it won’t work” correctly.
Davy on Sat, 19th Jan 2019 5:47 am
This forum hardly has a pulse anymore.
Cloggie on Sat, 19th Jan 2019 6:17 am
I know Davy I’m right with you brother. Bring back the old times when we ruled the roost. Now it’s all theses young punks dooming here they don’t know nothing. Us old folks can see the shit is going down but we is munchin on our pop corn I tells ya and watchin the whole damn show
Davy on Sat, 19th Jan 2019 6:35 am
like I said flatline
Thanks (sarc) JuanP for starting the impersonations that are now daily and routine. Now we have copycaters or is this cloggie impersonation just JuanP working on taking the site down alone.
Cloggie on Sat, 19th Jan 2019 6:35 am
Sorry for that incoherent rant previously I have slight dyslexia and find it slightly difficult to spell. But who gives a shit