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It’s No Wonder Iranians Hate America
“Everyone wants to go to Baghdad. Real men want to go to Tehran.” So a senior British official was quoted as saying to Newsweek in 2002, witnessing the competitive bellicosity in the Bush administration’s runup to the war in Iraq.
This week President Donald Trump asserted his claim to be a real man as he tore up the nuclear deal with Iran. But he has inadvertently accelerated rather than delayed an inevitable process: the emergence of Iran as a major geopolitical and scientific power in a world that is no longer shaped exclusively by European and American interests.
Trump’s understanding of what he has done, a few weeks after triggering a trade war with China, is necessarily limited. He belongs to a generation of American men who, already scarred by defeat in Vietnam and oil shocks of the 1970s, felt utterly humiliated by the Iranian revolutionaries who kept Americans hostages for more than a year.
But then most who fantasize about regime change in countries they know little about never quite got decolonization: the central event of the 20th century, in which Western empires were overthrown and a majority of the world’s population assumed its right to dignity and equality in sovereign nation-states.
These Western interventionists don’t grasp why Iran came very late to decolonization, and then with a volcanic anti-Western eruption. For decades Iranians were victims of the Cold War, when the Soviet Union and the U.S. inflicted puppet regimes on many nation-states in Asia and Africa. Iran did have its own nationalist upsurge, which built up throughout Western and Soviet occupation of the country during World War II. But it was brutally suppressed by a CIA-backed coup in 1953 that deposed the country’s democratically elected leader and empowered the despotic Shah of Iran.
The tens of thousands of Americans who once lived in Tehran – some as advisers to the Shah’s notorious executioners and torturers in the secret police – may have occasionally felt the visceral hostility in the country to the Shah and his American enablers.
But they were not helped by “obtusely establishment editors,” as Kennett Love, the New York Times correspondent in Tehran, called his bosses, who like most American newspaper editors couldn’t look past the Shah’s pharaonic modernization projects to his brutality and foolishness.
Such naivete and ignorance explains why, when they finally erupted in 1979, anti-American passions shocked policymakers and opinion-formers in the U.S.
Frustrated “real men” then took to assisting Saddam Hussein in his vicious assault on Iran, which entrenched the Islamic revolutionaries in power in Tehran. They trampled upon the few shoots of liberal reform in Iran in the early 2000s, insisting on the country’s inclusion in President George W. Bush’s “axis of evil.” It is no surprise that their stampede into Baghdad helped turn Iraq into an Iranian client state.
Needless to add, during all these years of unrelentingly belligerent and incompetent American policy, Iranian nationalism osmotically grew, along with Iran’s sphere of influence in the region.
Today, that influence continues despite the economic pain caused by Western sanctions, and the commitment to self-strengthening crosses deep political divisions: It’s worth remembering that the imprisoned reform Green Movement leader, Mir Hossein Mousavi, accused the fanatically anti-West Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of “betraying” Iranian nuclear interests.
President Barack Obama tried to repair some of the damage inflicted by his inept predecessors. His nuclear deal was meant to prevent Iran from blithely scoring in open goals across the Middle East. It aimed to maintain Israel’s nuclear monopoly in the region, and to mollify Saudi Arabia’s nervous rulers.
But there was always something absurd about the American expectation that Iran should recuse itself from the proxy wars of the Middle East – that it should let its Arab rivals, for instance, decide the fate of Syria and Yemen.
Trump is now trying his hand at an old and obsessive American venture in the Middle East: bringing Iran to heel. The Iranian economy will undoubtedly suffer from his sanctions. But Europeans may step in; Iran’s close economic and political relationship with China and India can only be further strengthened. And a country that has made the fastest progress in science despite international isolation is unlikely to roll over.
U.S. sanctions deterred neither India nor Pakistan from building their nuclear capacity. In any case, the gambit of increasing the threshold of economic pain to bring about desired political change is always counter-productive. Take, for instance, Malaysia’s Mahathir Mohamad, whose only match in virulent anti-American and anti-Israel rhetoric was Ahmadinejad. Mahathir defied American pressures, which included Vice President Al Gore openly urging Malaysians to oust him, all through the devastating East Asian financial crisis in the late 1990s.
This week he is back in power at the age of 92 – yet another proof of a geopolitical reality that is rapidly becoming less and less amenable to American control. The chief impulse behind decolonization – the need for sovereignty and dignity – has led to the emergence of one new assertive power after another: China, India, Turkey, Iran.
Understandably, some powerful Americans can’t adjust to this world, where they don’t feel important enough anymore. And so they petulantly tear up treaties. But it is clear that, whether going to Baghdad, Tehran or Beijing, they are more likely than ever to go nowhere.
78 Comments on "It’s No Wonder Iranians Hate America"
MASTERMIND on Sat, 12th May 2018 4:53 pm
Clogg
The reason your race is dying is your own peoples fault. White people can’t sing, dance, play sports, etc…Your people are to fat and lazy and obese. Girls like guys who can take them to a club and dance all night. Not some fat sack of shit neckbeard, nazi’s like you….Sorry woman choose and they are choosing to mix…
Cloggie on Sat, 12th May 2018 5:44 pm
“The reason your race is dying is your own peoples fault.“
The reason for the current desaster is that the weakest elements of our race were unable to generate an elite that was able to withstand the greatest criminals on this planet and next were used by these criminals to attack the core of the white race in continental Europe.
But meanwhile the geopolitical situation has thoroughly changed as compared to 1945. The coming WW3 will be between Eurasia and Anglosphere. Anglo navies are useless in the face of new missile technology and in population are outnumbered 1:5.
Additionally the US itself is divided to the core and Washington cannot count on the deplorables.
The situation for ZOG is hopeless. Your tribe is going to get your ass kicked and disappear from world history and after the end of the American era, the worst desaster in European history, we can begin repair works, togethet with Russia, with a new set of values.
But first things first, the complete dismemberment of Anglosphere by Europe, Russia, China and the world of Islam.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 12th May 2018 6:00 pm
Clogg
how are you going to do this without fossil fuels? But hey obviously your delusional fantasy gives you hope. And blowing out your candle wont make mine any brighter..
MASTERMIND on Sat, 12th May 2018 6:24 pm
Those who mock Mastermind..Humiliate themselves…
MASTERMIND on Sat, 12th May 2018 6:49 pm
John Kerry was right!
https://i.redd.it/tknji6n47ix01.jpg
MASTERMIND on Sat, 12th May 2018 7:00 pm
We are not in the least afraid of ruins. We are going to inherit the earth, there is not the slightest doubt about that. The bourgeoisie might blast and ruin its own world before it leaves the stage of history. We carry a new world, here, in our hearts. That world is growing this minute….
– Buenaventura Durruti
makati1 on Sat, 12th May 2018 7:14 pm
“Those who mock Mastermind..Humiliate themselves…”
Hahahahahahahaha!
Really? I think it is the other way around MM. You have not proven your claimed education or intelligence even once on this forum. Not once. You have excelled at proving your immaturity, delusions, unemployed situation and sexual fixation.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 12th May 2018 7:29 pm
Madkat
The world isn’t driven by greed, but envy.
-Warren Buffett
Anonymouse1 on Sat, 12th May 2018 8:14 pm
Those who mock ‘mushmind’, Humiliate the exceptionalturd.
-Anonymouse1
makati1 on Sat, 12th May 2018 8:26 pm
Not an original thought in you brain MM? Only parroting bullshit from other mindless bullshitters. It’s ALL about money, greed is the money cancer. But you don’t have to worry. You ain’t got none (Money that is) and never will, siting on your ass in your mom’s basement. LOL
MASTERMIND on Sat, 12th May 2018 8:32 pm
Madkat
When you shout in all capitals it just proves you have no impulse control and you are unsophisticated. There is an old saying, the loudest voice in the room, is the weakest voice in the room…
MASTERMIND on Sat, 12th May 2018 8:34 pm
It is a narrow mind that cannot look at a subject from various points of view.
-George Eliot
MASTERMIND on Sat, 12th May 2018 8:40 pm
Some people in Indy, are now smoking bug spray and turning into zombies.
“Their movements are slow and lethargic, a lot of drooling and a loss of function. We find them with their clothes off, eating the grass, pulling dirt out of the ground and trying to put it in their mouth,”
https://www.indystar.com/videos/news/2018/03/17/when-they-smoke-they-almost-become-zombie-like/32970225/
https://imgur.com/a/EMKxG4u
makati1 on Sat, 12th May 2018 9:57 pm
Mm, are you describing yourself? “No impulse control”? Should I go back and quote some of your rants about rape, zombies and other masochistic sex?? Not worth my time. I use caps to emphasize my comment’s high points. Who gives a fuck if you are annoyed. You, like Davy, are a zero. A nothing in the world. Not even important to your family.
Now, I await your uneducated, childish, reply. Or some off the wall quote that is not relevant.
Cloggie on Sat, 12th May 2018 11:30 pm
“Those who mock Mastermind..Humiliate themselves…”
A chosenite celebrating himself. “Oh we are soooo smart”.lol
But your identity has been exposed again, like with that other mini-soros, apneaman and now every one of your statements can be put into perspective, something you don’t like. You sneaky weasels always prefer to fight from stealth.
“the loudest voice in the room, is the weakest voice in the room…”
That would perfectly match with you, millimind.
“John Kerry was right!
https://i.redd.it/tknji6n47ix01.jpg”
John Kohn is trying to save the Iran deal, but Herr Drumpf, the one with Mein Kampf on his nightstand, is going to wreck it. Can’t you still figure out what is happening here, millimind? He is intentionally going to blow up the US, depriving your tribe from its last powerbase. 50k Americans killed in the Gulf should be enough to get an insurrection started.
And you delude yourself if you think that all whites are of the same caliber as these hillbillies in that picture. The potential next Italian PM is already discussing your tribe on TV:
https://youtu.be/1jt9MLdg3JQ
As if the thirties never went away. You know what the problem is with your sheenies? You cant dance, that’s it!
https://youtu.be/TrRAWz1WcFs
That’s why your race is dying.lol
Cloggie on Sun, 13th May 2018 7:43 am
“Thanks for that link. And yes we are headed for total extinction in the next decade. It wont be pretty..
https://imgur.com/a/pYxKa”
You constantly post that statement from your co-tribalist Sagan, without living up to it yourself. What you really do is to instigate your desired anti-white revolution after the fall/retreat of Trump. 1917-Petersburg revisited on US soil.
MASTERMIND on Sun, 13th May 2018 8:19 am
CNN is claiming now that Iran threats to annihilate Israel..They just make up pure lies. Just like the lie that Iran said they want to wipe Israel off of the map….
MASTERMIND on Sun, 13th May 2018 8:22 am
Italy could blow up Europe as we know it
https://www.politico.eu/article/silvio-berlusconi-beppe-grillo-antonio-tajani-5stars-forza-italia-italy-euro-how-italy-could-blow-up-europe-as-we-know-it/
Cloggie on Sun, 13th May 2018 8:43 am
“Italy could blow up Europe as we know it” is not the same as “Italy could blow up Europe”.
Italy is a rich country, with a “libertarian” population, that loves to avoid paying taxes. In the old pre-euro days the government “collected taxes” by printing liras, decreasing the value of black savings. With the euro that is no longer possible, resulting in a large public debt, owned by a rich public that owns largely paid off real estate.
Italy is not poor, but rich.
Perhaps it is a good idea for Italy to reintroduce the lira and start inflating again. For international payments Italy has no alternative but the euro anyway.
Is this going to happen? I don’t think the Italians want to fall back on their shabby lira. Way out? Every Italian a mortgage of say 20,000 euro on their paid off real estate, to bring down public debt. That will teach the tax dodgers.
MASTERMIND on Sun, 13th May 2018 9:00 am
makati1
Those things I talked about rape and zombies will happen. And I have cited numerous scholarly studies to prove. You just can’t handle it. you are gut less and narrow minded. You have no evidence to support your argument. that means you have no reason to believe it. that’s called logic. Something you learn in College. Which you wouldn’t know anything about. Since you were a dirty construction worker.
Cloggie on Sun, 13th May 2018 10:00 am
“Those things I talked about rape and zombies will happen.”
If you get the chance, that is.
Boat on Sun, 13th May 2018 10:13 am
Mm
More like you were raised where domistic civility was not a high priority. Logic doesn’t dictate hype, sensationalism or insults. Debate without these traits would be more logical.
JuanP on Sun, 13th May 2018 11:05 am
MM “Girls like guys who can take them to a club and dance all night.”
Doesn’t he sound just like the educated scholar he pretends to be? Or does he sound like an ignorant, immature, poor little kid?
Cloggie on Sun, 13th May 2018 11:09 am
Interesting net worth data per country:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wealth_per_adult
It is true that in the West the average wealth is the highest in the US. But it is also true that that wealth is concentrated in few hands. If you look at median wealth, the US is the poorest of them all, after Germany (they prefer to rent, not own)
US…………389…..56
UK…………278…103
France…..263….120
Italy……….224….125
Germany..204…..47
In fact Italy is doing rather well, no pity with them. In the end public debt is private debt as well. America’s low median wealth is a reflection of the high proportion of third worlders, who got in the country as a result of the scheming of millimind’s tribe:
http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/immigration.pdf
His assertion that third world immigrants contribute to the wealth of the US is a lie and millimind knows it. But his tribe is only interested in bringing them in as a proletariat they hope to use in a Soviet style neo-bolshevik rebolution on US soil, shortly after Trump.
JuanP on Sun, 13th May 2018 11:10 am
MM “Those things I talked about rape and zombies will happen.”
I wonder in what kind of imaginary mental bubble you grew up in. Human violence has ALWAYS existed! Rape has ALWAYS existed! Murder has ALWAYS existed! People are getting kicked, raped, and murdered as I write this and other people will be getting theirs when you read it. C’est la vie!
Boat on Sun, 13th May 2018 2:45 pm
Clog
I would love to see adjusted numbers without 40+ million forein born immigrants.
Boat on Sun, 13th May 2018 2:56 pm
Clog,
The idea the EU is under some kind of magical imperial spell loses more credibility. Notice the claims of continued trade with Iran inspite of threats of sanctions from Trump. No more US complaining please. Take responsibility for your own policies. You own them.
Cloggie on Sun, 13th May 2018 2:57 pm
google.com
The world at your fingertips.
Good luck, boat!