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ZERO - The true value of a barrel of Oil

Postby Janus208 » Wed 15 Feb 2006, 02:52:54

The "laws of physics" must be true in all parts of the Universe.

If they are not true EVERYWHERE ... then the second law of thermodynamics is mere LAME-BRAIN BOLLOCKS. Are you all OK so far?

Don't rush because Einstein never figured it out.

Is the Universe populated by oxygen breathing, berserk oil execs with boxes of matches?

If you think "yes", keep your shares. If "No" ........ Dump 'em pronto.

Don't be sad. Go to Unified Theoryand be happy about your decision. Also for future mobility here is your
car ..... [img]unifiedtheory.org.uk/images/wheelchair.gif[/img]
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Re: ZERO - The true value of a barrel of Oil

Postby mididoctors » Wed 15 Feb 2006, 06:43:56

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what "units" of gravitational energy is supposed to be going on at this scale?

a quantum is quantum hence why electrons dont "fall" into the nucleus or occupy "energy states" inbetween "orbits"

at a FUNDAMENTAL scale what subdivisions do we utilize to access this perpetual motion?

OTOH the 2nd law of thermo dynamics might be a oil cartel conspiracy :roll:

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Re: ZERO - The true value of a barrel of Oil

Postby Doly » Wed 15 Feb 2006, 06:49:39

There's so many physics concepts butchered in this site that it must be breaking some kind of record of ignorance.
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Re: ZERO - The true value of a barrel of Oil

Postby Janus208 » Wed 15 Feb 2006, 09:09:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mididoctors', '[')img]http://www.unifiedtheory.org.uk/images/Diagram%206.gif[/img]

what "units" of gravitational energy is supposed to be going on at this scale?

a quantum is quantum hence why electrons dont "fall" into the nucleus or occupy "energy states" inbetween "orbits"

at a FUNDAMENTAL scale what subdivisions do we utilize to access this perpetual motion?

OTOH the 2nd law of thermo dynamics might be a oil cartel conspiracy :roll:

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I advised you to take it easy but you have grabbed the ball and are trying to run early at the Diagram 6 level. At Diagram 16 your questions are answered.

Oil execs are not smart enough to run a 2 L of T conspiracy. Uni profs do it for them. They screw the taxpayer without pumping gas for them.

I have offered a £12,000 GIFT, not wager, for any professor that dares to step up and "butcher" me. No takers. The THUNDER OF SILENCE because the game is over and they know it all too well.
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Re: ZERO - The true value of a barrel of Oil

Postby Etalon » Wed 15 Feb 2006, 10:58:22

£12,000? That sounds nice, where does it say that on the website?


*edit*
Hey, at the start: "KE of car = Mv^2 /2 = 400 kW Engine output" Yeah... thats joules im afraid. The energy that a car has is not equal to the power of the engine.

Your argument later:

"So 400 = 35, which shows that at the same moment that Isaac Newton is buying me a 750% free lunch; the conservation of energy and the thermodynamic laws are overcharging me by 279%."

Is wrong.

Can I have my £12,000 now? More than happy to give you a paypal address.
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Re: ZERO - The true value of a barrel of Oil

Postby mididoctors » Wed 15 Feb 2006, 12:12:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Janus208', '
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Oil execs are not smart enough to run a 2 L of T conspiracy. Uni profs do it for them. They screw the taxpayer without pumping gas for them.


I am afraid picture 16 does not make any sense at all to me either

this conspiracy?

do uni professors run this in a direct conspiratorial fashion?

do they meet up at some secret lodge?

do university professors get let into the secret somewhere along the line?

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Re: ZERO - The true value of a barrel of Oil

Postby Janus208 » Wed 15 Feb 2006, 15:05:22

[quote="Etalon"]£12,000? That sounds nice, where does it say that on the website?


*edit*
Hey, at the start: "KE of car = Mv^2 /2 = 400 kW Engine output" Yeah... thats joules im afraid. The energy that a car has is not equal to the power of the engine.

Mv^2/2 has units of Joules per second = Watts. You are a bloody clown.
kg x metres per second squared - Watts. You are the Wave-particle paradox. Is your head up your arse OR is your arse wrapped around your ears.

"im afraid" You should be. Now tell me and the forum that you are coming back for your prize.
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Re: ZERO - The true value of a barrel of Oil

Postby Etalon » Wed 15 Feb 2006, 16:15:29

Yeah ill come back for my prize Janus208.

E=0.5mV^2, Is the correct equation for energy, but it IS energy, NOT watts. Proofs:

1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy#Kinetic_energy
Okay, I could have edited this myself to prove you wrong, so lets find it elsewhere..

2) http://www.glenbrook.k12.il.us/GBSSCI/P ... u5l1c.html

3) http://www.gmhsscience.com/problems/kin ... ential.htm

Happy now? These sources show the forumla, for example KE= 0.5mv^2 and then go on at the point, or a bit later to state the unit of kinetic energy is joules.

I honestly do not know how you expect anyone to take you seriously. Ive spent far too much time on you allready.
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Re: ZERO - The true value of a barrel of Oil

Postby grabby » Wed 15 Feb 2006, 19:05:18

Thinking is good practice and there was a lot of time spent on this, but the details of the math just got hidden.
I learned a lot, there is no doubt electricity follows similarity to mass because energy equals mass and a constant.

Same with my attempted explanation of how much power we use (For our benefit,) I got tripped up by the watts/joule second and kilowatt hour conversion also.

its just not obvious at first.

Loved the diagrams though, lots of work there. Keep on thinking.

But the way to prove an argument is to use proven reproducible examples.
make one of these things and show the video of it running, and the proof is there.

No one can argue with real performing generators and powerstations, and then I see my own mathematical erro too.

The engineer looks like he may be involved in a CONSPIRACY, but in fact he runs aground of how things really behave.

Just build one and see if it works, then you can adjust your math.
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Re: ZERO - The true value of a barrel of Oil

Postby 0mar » Wed 15 Feb 2006, 19:15:48

Did you pick up a physics book and typed in words at random? That's basically what your site is.

Your understanding of math and physics is barely at the 9th grade level.
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Re: ZERO - The true value of a barrel of Oil

Postby 0mar » Wed 15 Feb 2006, 19:18:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Janus208', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Etalon', 'Â')£12,000? That sounds nice, where does it say that on the website?


*edit*
Hey, at the start: "KE of car = Mv^2 /2 = 400 kW Engine output" Yeah... thats joules im afraid. The energy that a car has is not equal to the power of the engine.

Mv^2/2 has units of Joules per second = Watts. You are a bloody clown.
kg x metres per second squared - Watts. You are the Wave-particle paradox. Is your head up your arse OR is your arse wrapped around your ears.

"im afraid" You should be. Now tell me and the forum that you are coming back for your prize.


(MV^2)/2 has units of Joules (kg*m^2/s^2 is defined as a joule). Watt is a measure of power, which has units Joule/Second. The energy of the car in your case is the total energy imparted by momentum, not the energy output of the car.
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Re: ZERO - The true value of a barrel of Oil

Postby Etalon » Wed 15 Feb 2006, 22:04:13

Still waiting for my £12,000 Janus.
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Re: ZERO - The true value of a barrel of Oil

Postby Janus208 » Thu 16 Feb 2006, 01:03:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('grabby', 'T')hinking is good practice and there was a lot of time spent on this, but the details of the math just got hidden.
I learned a lot, there is no doubt electricity follows similarity to mass because energy equals mass and a constant.

Same with my attempted explanation of how much power we use (For our benefit,) I got tripped up by the watts/joule second and kilowatt hour conversion also.

its just not obvious at first.

Loved the diagrams though, lots of work there. Keep on thinking.

But the way to prove an argument is to use proven reproducible examples.
make one of these things and show the video of it running, and the proof is there.

No one can argue with real performing generators and powerstations, and then I see my own mathematical erro too.

The engineer looks like he may be involved in a CONSPIRACY, but in fact he runs aground of how things really behave.

Just build one and see if it works, then you can adjust your math.


REPLY:

Good to see someone get a brain cell into gear before posting. The fundamental message that I am trying to send is given in the few lines beneath the opening title. The key to EVERYTHING in the Universe is SELF DRIVEN RESONANCE and this provides CONSTANT PHASE SHIFTING BETWEEN ENERGY AND POWER VECTORS. The most obvious (to me, after 14 years) is atomically driven LIGHT.

Only zero mass velocity is POTENTIAL JOULES. Moving is always PER SECOND and therefore POTENTIAL ENERGY WATTS which decay to POWER TORQUE WATTS. Etalon cannot grasp this. He pits his 14 minute wit against my 14 years. He does not seek parental guidance. He should and he must if he is not going to suck on the hind tit forever.

I have the inertia and spring drives up and running. BBC TV want the bouncy damped and forced spring first. I scrapped it for the parts 4 years back. Their "science" advisor is stalling me and every week they put out new programme info from my unacknowledged site, but which gives them new wriggling room. They are scared shitless and witless.

Forum tosspots constantly cite me as a none zillionaire. I am 68 in 10 days and my income is currently 400% more than I spend. Money is made of the same shit as the "laws of physics". I DO NOT COVET SHIT.
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Re: ZERO - The true value of a barrel of Oil

Postby Janus208 » Thu 16 Feb 2006, 01:32:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('0mar', 'D')id you pick up a physics book and typed in words at random? That's basically what your site is.

Your understanding of math and physics is barely at the 9th grade level.


I just looked up your CV of interests....Guns. video games and something called HA HA ????????????????

Is this the US 10, 11 and 12 level of educational buggoogery ??????????
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Re: ZERO - The true value of a barrel of Oil

Postby Janus208 » Thu 16 Feb 2006, 02:27:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Etalon', 'Y')eah ill come back for my prize Janus208.

E=0.5mV^2, Is the correct equation for energy, but it IS energy, NOT watts. Proofs:

1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy#Kinetic_energy
Okay, I could have edited this myself to prove you wrong, so lets find it elsewhere..

2) http://www.glenbrook.k12.il.us/GBSSCI/P ... u5l1c.html

3) http://www.gmhsscience.com/problems/kin ... ential.htm

Happy now? These sources show the forumla, for example KE= 0.5mv^2 and then go on at the point, or a bit later to state the unit of kinetic
energy is joules.

I honestly do not know how you expect anyone to take you seriously. Ive spent far too much time on you allready.


I just looked up 3). It is written for children and clearly states that JOULES have a ZERO VELOCITY component. How old are you ? You are certainly the certifiable clown in this thread and you have certainly proved it.
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Re: ZERO - The true value of a barrel of Oil

Postby Janus208 » Thu 16 Feb 2006, 02:46:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Janus208', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Etalon', 'Y')eah ill come back for my prize Janus208.

E=0.5mV^2, Is the correct equation for energy, but it IS energy, NOT watts. Proofs:

1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy#Kinetic_energy
Okay, I could have edited this myself to prove you wrong, so lets find it elsewhere..

2) http://www.glenbrook.k12.il.us/GBSSCI/P ... u5l1c.html

3) http://www.gmhsscience.com/problems/kin ... ential.htm

Happy now? These sources show the forumla, for example KE= 0.5mv^2 and then go on at the point, or a bit later to state the unit of kinetic
energy is joules.

I honestly do not know how you expect anyone to take you seriously. Ive spent far too much time on you allready.


I just looked up 3). It is written for children and clearly states that JOULES have a ZERO VELOCITY component. How old are you ? You are certainly the certifiable clown in this thread and you have certainly proved it.


And I just looked up 2). Incredible. They define it as a NEWTON METRE PER SECOND !!!!!!!! ???????????????? You are not alone in your ignorance. I can hardly believe it but it does have a ZERO PAGE RATING.

Internet SHIT IN = SHIT OUT ?????????????? WHAT ????????
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Re: ZERO - The true value of a barrel of Oil

Postby 0mar » Thu 16 Feb 2006, 03:23:25

Can we get a lock on this? Janus208 isn't even posting coherent sentences.
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Re: ZERO - The true value of a barrel of Oil

Postby Etalon » Thu 16 Feb 2006, 03:39:41

Agreed. This is just getting stupid. I suggest this is at least moved to the hall of flames. This doesnt belong in the main forums.
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Re: ZERO - The true value of a barrel of Oil

Postby Aedo » Thu 16 Feb 2006, 05:23:23

Janus208 you will gain more respect on this board if you counter arguments intellectually rather than through insult.
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Re: ZERO - The true value of a barrel of Oil

Postby mididoctors » Thu 16 Feb 2006, 06:17:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Etalon', 'A')greed. This is just getting stupid. I suggest this is at least moved to the hall of flames. This doesnt belong in the main forums.


i have to agree. to me this presentation makes no sense at all and the argumentative style of te poster to my mind exposes a total lack of rigor , knowledge or understanding of the subject in hand.

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