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Would voting Republician be a good thing?

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Re: Would voting Republician be a good thing?

Unread postby AlexdeLarge » Tue 26 Aug 2008, 10:56:03

You are naive. The assault weapon ban will be back. Then they will ban the bullets next. Then they will go after handguns.

The right to bear arms was upheld by only a 5 -4 split. You have much more to fear from liberal, activist judges. They ignore laws passed by states and rule as they see fit. All I want is someone to intrepret the constitution as it is written. Period!
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Re: Would voting Republician be a good thing?

Unread postby PonyBoy78 » Tue 26 Aug 2008, 10:59:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlexdeLarge', 'Y')ou are naive. The assault weapon ban will be back. Then they will ban the bullets next. Then they will go after handguns.
The right to bear arms was upheld by only a 5 -4 split. You have much more to fear from liberal, activist judges. They ignore laws passed by states and rule as they see fit. All I want is someone to intrepret the constitution as it is written. Period!

I'll take that risk. Thanks for the warning.. :roll:
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Re: Would voting Republician be a good thing?

Unread postby GoghGoner » Tue 26 Aug 2008, 12:12:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlexdeLarge', 'A')ll I want is someone to intrepret the constitution as it is written. Period!

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Are you a militia? Obama taught constitutional law so I would think that he has a much better grasp on it than McCain.
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Re: Would voting Republician be a good thing?

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Tue 26 Aug 2008, 12:51:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GoghGoner', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlexdeLarge', 'A')ll I want is someone to intrepret the constitution as it is written. Period!
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
Are you a militia?

That is an enigmatic line. The first half is puzzling. The second half is clear and unambiguous. Any experts on the 18th Century and it's conception of a "well regulated militia?" Why would the founders be so odd about this, why not just say "the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed," and leave it at that? As it is, it seems to vaguely imply that people can have guns provided they are out drilling and marching in, say, North Dakota.
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Re: Would voting Republician be a good thing?

Unread postby AlexdeLarge » Tue 26 Aug 2008, 12:57:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GoghGoner', '"')A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Read the whole sentence. Seems pretty clear to me.

But 'Obama" would select judges that interpret it only as militia. So I suggest you go turn in your weapons to your lord and messiah and pray you stay in his good graces! You made my point beautifully!! LOL
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Re: Would voting Republician be a good thing?

Unread postby GoghGoner » Tue 26 Aug 2008, 13:17:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlexdeLarge', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GoghGoner', '
')"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."


Read the whole sentence. Seems pretty clear to me.



The sentence does not begin after the comma, seems like you need to attend a couple of grade school diagramming sentence sessions. I don't believe the Second Amendment allows for individual rights -- basically because I don't think that children should be subject to random bullets from gang wars

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')bama believes that while the "Second Amendment creates an individual right, . . . he also believes that the Constitution permits federal, state and local government to adopt reasonable and common sense gun safety measures."
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Re: Would voting Republician be a good thing?

Unread postby AlexdeLarge » Tue 26 Aug 2008, 13:43:56

Then you are a fool. You want to select and interpret the constitution as per your own biases. If you want to change the constitution, follow the amendment procedures. But you know the "people" will not agree to the change.......so you want to select judges who interpret the constitution to fit a political mindset.
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Re: Would voting Republician be a good thing?

Unread postby Dezakin » Tue 26 Aug 2008, 23:41:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlexdeLarge', 'T')hen you are a fool. You want to select and interpret the constitution as per your own biases. If you want to change the constitution, follow the amendment procedures. But you know the "people" will not agree to the change.......so you want to select judges who interpret the constitution to fit a political mindset.

They aren't rights, they're restrictions of power on the federal government. States can make whatever laws they want, until the 14th ammendment comes in and muddys the waters some more.

The right of the people can be viewed as a collective right or individual right as well, muddying it further.
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Re: Would voting Republician be a good thing?

Unread postby Chuckmak » Wed 27 Aug 2008, 11:28:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kam3Oen', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') believe that the system is going to implode very soon after the election, and I would rather it be totally obvious that it is mostly as the result of conservative policies over the last 8 years (actually beginning with Regan).


Why does is matter who gets blamed. Isn't it obvious that most people in the world are just too stupid (or in denial) to face depletion head on. The fact that no other governments in the world are making any kind of real plans to deal with PO, should give you an idea how universal the problem is.


kam we tend to butt heads on here, but you're ABSOLUTELY correct on this one. messed up part is, the masses don't seem to know, and don't seem to care.
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Re: Would voting Republician be a good thing?

Unread postby Plantagenet » Wed 27 Aug 2008, 12:10:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GoghGoner', ' ')I don't believe the Second Amendment allows for individual rights



I'm always amazed by Americans who are willing to surrender their rights as provided for in the in the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
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Re: Would voting Republician be a good thing?

Unread postby Plantagenet » Wed 27 Aug 2008, 12:20:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PonyBoy78', ' ')right-wing judges ... habeas corpus. Downright scary.


POWs captured in wars have never been entitled to habeas corpus rights.

It was very liberal of liberal judges to extend these new rights to them. Next our soldiers will probably have to read their Miranda rights to the enemy before they can shoot at them.
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Re: Would voting Republician be a good thing?

Unread postby AlexdeLarge » Wed 27 Aug 2008, 15:20:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GoghGoner', ' ')I don't believe the Second Amendment allows for individual rights



I'm always amazed by Americans who are willing to surrender their rights as provided for in the in the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights.


Not only are they willing to give up rights granted to every "American" citizen, they want to infer rights on Islamic Terrorists and illegal aliens!!!!

I don't get it.............but it sure tells you how to vote! Anybody but Obama !!!!LOL
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Re: Would voting Republician be a good thing?

Unread postby Dezakin » Wed 27 Aug 2008, 16:24:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PonyBoy78', ' ')right-wing judges ... habeas corpus. Downright scary.


POWs captured in wars have never been entitled to habeas corpus rights.

Neither were the Japanese interned in WW2 come to think of it. Cant trust them slant eyes after all, right?
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Re: Would voting Republician be a good thing?

Unread postby kam3Oen » Fri 29 Aug 2008, 00:30:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'k')am we tend to butt heads on here, but you're ABSOLUTELY correct on this one. messed up part is, the masses don't seem to know, and don't seem to care.



They don't want to know. They're not ready to imagine, or even consider a life less comfortable than the one they're currently living, especially when our popular culture has always indicated that the future would be more materially prosperous than the past and present.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')POWs captured in wars have never been entitled to habeas corpus rights.


Rights, what is this about rights? You've got to be kidding me, you think you, or anyone else, have any rights. Yah, maybe on planet utopia.

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Re: Would voting Republician be a good thing?

Unread postby Serial_Worrier » Sat 30 Aug 2008, 23:45:37

But but Hope'n'change is promising a paradise if you only give him your vote. :?
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