[George]

We may be at or near peak oil, but we will never run out...

Let me justify my opinion...

There will almost always be new oil discoveries, small as they may be...
Oil will continue to cost more as it becomes scarcer...
At certain price points consumers will start being priced out of the market and will have to revert to alternate transportation methods...
When and if the price exceeds $100 a gallon, auto technology will most likely achieve really hi MPG (VW has stated 80+ MPG Diesel Hybrid is viable right now) and the US military uses a modified Kawasaki DIESEL motorcycle that get a round 160 MPG I believe.

Wasted trips will become a thing of the past and the Sunday drive will fade away, the rich will still drive as needed and the rest of us will ride a form or public transportation or scooter...

Governments will subsidize diesel for AG use and tightly regulate it for food production...

Anyhow my opinion...

Let me know yours...

I for one am planning on dome home off the grid self sufficient intentional communities to live in...

[backstop]

George -

Welcome to the site !

In response to your post I'd note that one member has the delightful quip below their posts of:

"The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones, and a headless chicken doesn't stop running around for lack of brains."

In the ancient kingdom of Cornwall there are still fishing villages where you can see the stone tanks for pressing tons of mackerel, and the gutters down which the oil ran for refining before its use.

The mackerel shoals, though depleted, still migrate past this coast in great numbers, but it's generations since they were taken for oil.

This I think is the future for fossil oil - it is becoming so expensive that alternatives will displace its use. Given our manipulated near-total dependence on fossil oil, and the corporations' failure to establish alternatives decade ago, the crunch of global collapse is now looming.

So I must disagree with the idea that we'll never run out of oil - I think we'll run out out of the wealth, expertize, organization and inclination to build oil-exploration rigs to try and find it.

regards,

Backstop

[gt1370a]

I think most everyone on here will agree that oil will never run out, for the reasons you gave. However, there are varying opinions about the outcome of slower extraction and higher prices. Market theorists think we can just switch to some alternative. I have my doubts.

Keep reading the boards, and check out lifeaftertheoilcrash.net.

[Daculling]

George, your statements disregard the economic implications of PO. That being said I would label you as an optomist, so you might want to change your avatar.

[Heineken]

The only thing that matters is running out of cheap oil. That's what we're running out of, and that's what's going to change everything.

[0mar]

It's not a matter of running out of oil it is a matter of running out of oil to fuel economic growth.

[George]

You are exactly right... We will have to slip back to much more of a AG economy and barter...


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('0mar', 'I')t's not a matter of running out of oil it is a matter of running out of oil to fuel economic growth.

[evilmonkeyspanker]

I am afraid we won't have time for any of that, thanks to china and russia joining forces and uniting with the rest of our enemies a cold war which will erupt into world war III will destory the world and the only people left will be horribly deformed mutants who will only be able to survive by eating each others brains.

We are all very much banana'd

[aldente]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gt1370a', 'I') think most everyone on here will agree that oil will never run out

[Googolplex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('George', 'Y')ou are exactly right... We will have to slip back to much more of a AG economy and barter...

[adi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('albente', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gt1370a', 'I') think most everyone on here will agree that oil will never run out