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Re: We can believe
by rogerhb » Mon 18 Sep 2006, 17:32:47
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('galacticsurfer', 'I') don't quite get the idea of debating religion. If we had never learned to read and write there would have been no holy books to fight about just customs of different tribes(of whom you can read in old testament) who were all about the same and had the same customs almost completely. The only difference was blood lines.
Not true really, a tribe uses customs and traditions as part of it's identity, and allows members to identify more closely with those who follow the same traditions. The traditions should also have some basis in practicality, for example much of the Jewish law is centered around what are practical rules for shepards living in a semi desert.
Also it allowed you to differentiate other tribes, "look they are different see how they don't do X, Y and Z, the heathens, let's kill them, steal their women, land and cattle". That basically sums up much of the OT.
All of this only needs oral tradition.
"Complex problems have simple, easy to understand, wrong answers." - Henry Louis Mencken
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Re: We can believe
by rwwff » Mon 18 Sep 2006, 17:50:58
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'I') thought the trailer to the upcoming Jesus Camp movie is appropriate to add to the lively discussion on this thread!
And yall thought the US Army was going to have trouble with recruitment...
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Re: We can believe
by Zardoz » Tue 26 Sep 2006, 01:21:32
I've gotta get this book:
The God Delusion
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')o be fair, much of the Bible is not systematically evil but just plain weird, as you would expect of a chaotically cobbled-together anthology of disjointed documents, composed, revised, translated, distorted and 'improved' by hundreds of anonymous authors, editors and copyists, unknown to us and mostly unknown to each other, spanning nine centuries. This may explain some of the sheer strangeness of the Bible. But unfortunately it is this same weird volume that religious zealots hold up to us as the inerrant source of our morals and rules for living.
The God Delusion
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')o be fair, much of the Bible is not systematically evil but just plain weird, as you would expect of a chaotically cobbled-together anthology of disjointed documents, composed, revised, translated, distorted and 'improved' by hundreds of anonymous authors, editors and copyists, unknown to us and mostly unknown to each other, spanning nine centuries. This may explain some of the sheer strangeness of the Bible. But unfortunately it is this same weird volume that religious zealots hold up to us as the inerrant source of our morals and rules for living.
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Re: We can believe
by rogerhb » Tue 26 Sep 2006, 18:41:37
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('clueless', 'S')imply stated I believe God is God (Supreme) you beleive Man (th human race) is God (or Supreme).
I believe neither.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('clueless', 'W')e are desgined by Evolution - Now there's a strange thought, ROGHB at what age were you told that ???
Assuming you are refering to me, I never understood evolution as having anything to do with design. What works, works, what doesn't, doesn't.
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