by Carlhole » Fri 21 May 2010, 17:48:44
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lper100km', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'V')ettner is also running a project to genengineer a bacteria that will poop out oil.
Given the man has now created life, he's probably got a good shot at creating an oil-pooping bacteria too.
Given the current circumstances, it would be better if Ventner engineered bacteria specifically to eat spilled oil.
That could very probably be one of the bio-science's most promising contribution. Products already exist. It would be interesting to hear what kinds of phone calls the CEOs have been getting lately.
by Cid_Yama » Fri 21 May 2010, 18:06:19
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')iven the current circumstances, it would be better if Ventner engineered bacteria specifically to eat spilled oil.
And when all the oil is gone and they are still hungry, they start looking at ...YOU!
We are stardust, we are golden
We are million year old carbon .... oh, sh*t
We'll make it back to the garden as compost.
Musical interludeI wish it was possible for the younger people to know that time as we did. Our souls were enriched. And it IS time to get ourselves back to the garden.
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by Graeme » Sat 22 May 2010, 22:49:59
Craig Venter's research is scary, but not in the way you think
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ut it may turn out not have any significant applications at all. It might be possible to use it to manufacture a form of algae which could absorb CO2 and produce oil – but it might not. Although Exxon has invested money in just such a process, there isn't a lot of evidence that the project will succeed.
Dr Venter's technique also could aid the production of vaccines. But other than increasing the potency of medicines used to fight infections, no one claims that there will be any specific medical benefits from it. Even Dr Venter thinks that using his technique on any cells other than the most primitive forms of bacteria is "a long way off". For the foreseeable future, it cannot be used on human cells, or even on more complex bacteria. So unlike stem-cell research, which hopes to find ways to make damaged human organs, nerves and tissue repair themselves, it does not hold out the promise of cures for dozens of presently untreatable diseases.
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by EnergyUnlimited » Sun 23 May 2010, 14:52:28
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '
')But you KNOW man-made life, nanotechnology, artificial intelligence, etc will all soon be part of our lives, forever changing and ultimately improving how we go about the business of living, perhaps even improving the human organism itself.
...and pink unicorns will soon roam the Moon.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'G')iven the man has now created life,...
He created nothing materially new.
He just copied existing setup.
Basic unit of life is gene.
He did not make any new genes.
He just synthesized copies of existing genes and assembled these very much like they are assembled in existing bacteria.
So his work will not deliver much more than current GMO designers can do.
Potentially he can make it easy to produce many proteins not occurring normally in Nature.
However we are likely to find out that these proteins are not doing anything useful or (if only few alterations comparing to natural product are made) their work will be very much like work of mutation crippled natural proteins.
Why?
There is an incredibly low probability that an arbitrary sequence of aminoacids is going to perform some useful task.
Existing enzymes or other biological proteins are incredibly rare useful islands in vast sea of uselessness.
by Carlhole » Sun 23 May 2010, 17:15:18
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '.')..So his work will not deliver much more than current GMO designers can do.
What a lot of BS you spout on my threads. I see you still have PhDs in 7 different fields and a hard-on for anything I post, huh EU? That's what I would do if I had 7 PhDs: argue with people in PO.com.
Synthetic Genomes FAQ page. For example:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Q: What are the next steps for this research at JCVI?
A: The work to create the first self-replicating, synthetic bacterial cell was an important proof of concept. The team at JCVI has learned a lot from the nearly 15 years it has taken to get to this successful stage. From this proof of concept experiment the team is now ready to build more complex organisms with useful properties. For example, many, including scientists at SGI, are already using available sequencing information to engineer cells that can produce energy, pharmaceuticals, and industrial compounds, and sequester carbon dioxide.
The team at JCVI is already working on their ultimate objective, which has been to synthesize a minimal cell that has only the machinery necessary for independent life. Now that a cell can be synthesized from a synthetic genome in a simple near-minimal bacterial cell, it becomes possible for the team to test for the functionality of a genome. They can whittle away non-essential DNA regions from the synthetic genome and repeat transplantation experiments until no more genes can be disrupted and the genome is as small as possible. This minimal bacteria cell will enable a greater understanding of the function of every gene in a cell and a new vision of cells as understandable machines comprised of biological parts of known function. Inform yourself.
This story is news because, clearly, a research milestone has been reached. It makes the most sense to wait for the full story to be published in
Science - which will be shortly.
by EnergyUnlimited » Mon 24 May 2010, 02:09:50
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '
')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Q: What are the next steps for this research at JCVI?
A: The work to create the first self-replicating, synthetic bacterial cell was an important proof of concept. The team at JCVI has learned a lot from the nearly 15 years it has taken to get to this successful stage. ... The team at JCVI is already working on their ultimate objective, which has been to synthesize a minimal cell that has only the machinery necessary for independent life. Now that a cell can be synthesized from a synthetic genome in a simple near-minimal bacterial cell, it becomes possible for the team to test for the functionality of a genome. They can whittle away non-essential DNA regions from the synthetic genome and repeat transplantation experiments until no more genes can be disrupted and the genome is as small as possible. This minimal bacteria cell will enable a greater understanding of the function of every gene in a cell and a new vision of cells as understandable machines comprised of biological parts of known function.
Inform yourself.
This story is news because, clearly, a research milestone has been reached. It makes the most sense to wait for the full story to be published in
Science - which will be shortly.
So their experiments are basically resembling pulling off legs and wings from a fly and finding out, is that poor fly still able to breed or not.
In overall their experiments are not adding any new information to the system. They are withholding such information and the objection of research is to create as much as possible crippled system, still able to reproduce under carefully controlled laboratory conditions.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')rom this proof of concept experiment the team is now ready to build more complex organisms with useful properties. For example, many, including scientists at SGI, are already using available sequencing information to engineer cells that can produce energy, pharmaceuticals, and industrial compounds, and sequester carbon dioxide.
And these are rubbish or investor scam.
1. Certain pharmaceuticals or industrial compounds can be made by GMO bacterias/fungi and discussed research does not provide much of advantage in their production.
2. All organisms are producing (or rather
processing) energy, so some triviality is parroted as a breakthrough.
3. Carbon dioxide can be sequestered either by dissolving in water, what is trivial or by means of photosynthesis.
Efficiency of photosynthesis is currently restricted by concentration of CO2 in air.
So the limiting factor (concentration of CO2 in air) cannot be addressed by genetic meddling with bacterial cell.