Fidel is Dead.
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It will be interesting to see if the Castro family wants him to receive a Catholic funeral, given the official atheism of the Communist Party.
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Fidel Castro is Dead
Cuban Dictator Fidel Castro Dead at 90
by Plantagenet » Sat 26 Nov 2016, 03:25:41
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Fidel Castro is Dead
by Cog » Sat 26 Nov 2016, 07:20:12
Good riddance to a POS commie. Miami is celebrating and so am I. This has been the greatest November I can ever remember. Many tears are being shed at CNN, the White House, and of course this board. Obama will no doubt declare a national day of mourning and warm up Air Force One so he can play homage to his hero in Havana.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/cuban-revolu ... 26537.html
Havana (AFP) - Cuba's historic revolutionary leader Fidel Castro died Friday aged 90, after defying the United States during a half-century of iron-fisted rule and surviving the eclipse of global communism.
One of the world's longest-serving rulers and modern history's most singular characters, Castro defied 11 US administrations and hundreds of assassination attempts.
His younger brother, President Raul Castro, announced the news shortly after midnight (0500 GMT Saturday) but gave no details of the cause of death.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/cuban-revolu ... 26537.html
Havana (AFP) - Cuba's historic revolutionary leader Fidel Castro died Friday aged 90, after defying the United States during a half-century of iron-fisted rule and surviving the eclipse of global communism.
One of the world's longest-serving rulers and modern history's most singular characters, Castro defied 11 US administrations and hundreds of assassination attempts.
His younger brother, President Raul Castro, announced the news shortly after midnight (0500 GMT Saturday) but gave no details of the cause of death.
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Re: Cuban Dictator Fidel Castro Dead at 90
by Ibon » Sat 26 Nov 2016, 08:22:19
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'F')idel is Dead.
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It will be interesting to see if the Castro family wants him to receive a Catholic funeral, given the official atheism of the Communist Party.
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It will be interesting to see if the Castro family wants him to receive a Catholic funeral, given the official atheism of the Communist Party.
The family question Plant is far more complicated and was shared to me by cubans both in Miami and Havana.
Here it is: You are a family in Cuba, communism came and you folded up and went to Miami. You left your home and business assets behind. In Miami you built up a new life and enjoyed the affluence of living in America for 50 years. You left some siblings behind in Cuba. They continued to run the business and live in the same home now owned by the government but they persevered 50 years living in destitution. Most of these siblings left behind were not ideological communists, just folks that didn't have the gene to leap and start a new life.
Now here is the drama. Many of the cubans in Miami still want to reclaim their lost assets, they want to go back and own their lost homes and revive their lost businesses in spite of having spent 50 years living in affluence in Miami building a new life. Their siblings who stayed in Cuba and lived the past 50 years in destitution are not exactly in agreement. In their view they feel entitled to now having these assets go to them once communism opens up since they see themselves as the "loyal" ones who stayed and struggled for 50 years and they should now inherit these businesses without sharing this with their siblings who left.
Fortunately many life Fidel are dead. This problem passes to the offspring. But it is a family drama that will be played out with hundreds of thousands of families in Cuba in the years ahead after communism is eventually abandoned. Fidel's death moves us one step closer to this transition that will not be easy.
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Re: Cuban Dictator Fidel Castro Dead at 90
by Cog » Sat 26 Nov 2016, 08:29:56
Good riddance to a POS communist. Say hello to Pol Pot, Mao, Stalin, and Lenin for me.
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Re: Cuban Dictator Fidel Castro Dead at 90
by Shaved Monkey » Sat 26 Nov 2016, 09:00:34
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', ' ')Fidel's death moves us one step closer to this transition that will not be easy.
Fidel is the only guy who successfully faced and navigated his country through PO.
He transitioned his country into the role model of sustainability,that we in the West find hard to swallow but eventually.will have to face.
The modern transition is a short term carrot chasing fantasy that only time will reveal how foolish it is
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Re: Fidel Castro is Dead
by ROCKMAN » Sat 26 Nov 2016, 09:02:56
"...but gave no details of the cause of death." Perhaps the Trump "revolution" just claimed another victerm. LOL. But seriously given the presidernt-elect's deal making skills Cuba may have just jumped ahead of Canada on the list of the potential 51st US state.
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Re: Fidel Castro is Dead
by Tanada » Sat 26 Nov 2016, 09:28:02
Merged the two Castro threads, no need for everyone to be repeating themselves.
Here is the thing, President Obama has already gone a long way towards normalizing relations with Cuba and I even read somewhere a claim that the Miami Cuban-American population overwhelmingly voted for President Elect Trump in response.
President Obama now has a rapidly closing window to completely normalize relations because it is highly unlikely President elect Trump would further normalize things in face of the deep opposition of the Miami Cuban-American population.
Here is the thing, President Obama has already gone a long way towards normalizing relations with Cuba and I even read somewhere a claim that the Miami Cuban-American population overwhelmingly voted for President Elect Trump in response.
President Obama now has a rapidly closing window to completely normalize relations because it is highly unlikely President elect Trump would further normalize things in face of the deep opposition of the Miami Cuban-American population.
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Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
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Re: Fidel Castro is Dead
by sparky » Sat 26 Nov 2016, 10:05:34
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Fidel Castro was a man of action and conviction , he fought for what he believed and magnetized those around him .
in many way he was the last of the great figures of the 20th century ,
certainly he failed where revolutions always fail
how to make the dreams live in a bureaucratic reality , he went the usual way , using compulsion when the dream faded.
he came to be an icon for all the third world countries fighting for their independence from colonial powers
"From its earliest days, the Cuban revolution has been a source of inspiration for all those who value freedom. We admire the sacrifices of the Cuban people in maintaining their independence and sovereignty in the face of the vicious imperialist and orchestrated campaign to destroy the awesome force of the Cuban revolution. Long live the Cuban Revolution! Long live comrade Fidel Castro!" - Former South African President Nelson Mandela, in a July 1991 speech.
Fidel Castro was a man of action and conviction , he fought for what he believed and magnetized those around him .
in many way he was the last of the great figures of the 20th century ,
certainly he failed where revolutions always fail
how to make the dreams live in a bureaucratic reality , he went the usual way , using compulsion when the dream faded.
he came to be an icon for all the third world countries fighting for their independence from colonial powers
"From its earliest days, the Cuban revolution has been a source of inspiration for all those who value freedom. We admire the sacrifices of the Cuban people in maintaining their independence and sovereignty in the face of the vicious imperialist and orchestrated campaign to destroy the awesome force of the Cuban revolution. Long live the Cuban Revolution! Long live comrade Fidel Castro!" - Former South African President Nelson Mandela, in a July 1991 speech.
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Re: Fidel Castro is Dead
by dissident » Sat 26 Nov 2016, 10:18:12
For those that have a hate hard on for Castro: he would never have gained power if the f*cking USA did not support yet another bloody dictator (Batista) and put its money and "values" where its lying mouth is. If you claim to support democracy, then actually do it. Instead we have the US supporting every junta in Latin America and South-East Asia, the head-chopping theocracies in the Middle East, and terrorists in Syria. Then US drones get all hysterical when there is blowback. Grow a brain!
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Re: Fidel Castro is Dead
by Cog » Sat 26 Nov 2016, 10:33:09
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sparky', '.')
Fidel Castro was a man of action and conviction , he fought for what he believed and magnetized those around him .
in many way he was the last of the great figures of the 20th century ,
certainly he failed where revolutions always fail
how to make the dreams live in a bureaucratic reality , he went the usual way , using compulsion when the dream faded.
he came to be an icon for all the third world countries fighting for their independence from colonial powers
"From its earliest days, the Cuban revolution has been a source of inspiration for all those who value freedom. We admire the sacrifices of the Cuban people in maintaining their independence and sovereignty in the face of the vicious imperialist and orchestrated campaign to destroy the awesome force of the Cuban revolution. Long live the Cuban Revolution! Long live comrade Fidel Castro!" - Former South African President Nelson Mandela, in a July 1991 speech.
Fidel Castro was a man of action and conviction , he fought for what he believed and magnetized those around him .
in many way he was the last of the great figures of the 20th century ,
certainly he failed where revolutions always fail
how to make the dreams live in a bureaucratic reality , he went the usual way , using compulsion when the dream faded.
he came to be an icon for all the third world countries fighting for their independence from colonial powers
"From its earliest days, the Cuban revolution has been a source of inspiration for all those who value freedom. We admire the sacrifices of the Cuban people in maintaining their independence and sovereignty in the face of the vicious imperialist and orchestrated campaign to destroy the awesome force of the Cuban revolution. Long live the Cuban Revolution! Long live comrade Fidel Castro!" - Former South African President Nelson Mandela, in a July 1991 speech.
The man was a brutal dictator who tortured and killed all the years of his dictatorship. But like Pol Pot, Stalin, and Lenin, you are going to praise him. You are an idiot.
Many, if not most of the people in this country are a victim of our success. Never having known struggle or sacrifice. Never having a family member who was rounded up and put against a wall or persecuted in any way. The dumb asses actually believe that persecution is someone disagreeing with them.
It has led to moral relativity. Where every person, society, and system of government is "meh, pretty much the same, who am I to judge"...
Ironically, this ignorance will lead to REAL persecution and eventually other ugliness.
One good thing about him dying is it will bring out all the people on this board who would love to put you up against a wall and execute you communist style. Sparky would have no problem with this and would relish the opportunity to do so in his embrace of his ideology. Mark them well, they will kill you in a second when you disagree with their glorious Marxist vision.
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