[mattduke]

Ron Paul's speech:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')r. Speaker, I rise in strong opposition to this conference report on the War Supplemental Appropriations. I wonder what happened to all of my colleagues who said they were opposed to the ongoing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. I wonder what happened to my colleagues who voted with me as I opposed every war supplemental request under the previous administration. It seems, with very few exceptions, they have changed their position on the war now that the White House has changed hands. I find this troubling. As I have said while opposing previous war funding requests, a vote to fund the war is a vote in favor of the war. Congress exercises its constitutional prerogatives through the power of the purse.

[Keith_McClary]

Weird.

Does anyone seriously think that the US will be able to sustain an empire of puppet dictators and protectorates over the Mideast and central Asia for the coming decades and derive any net benefit from it? The only beneficiaries will be the "merchants of death" a.k.a. "military industrial complex".

[eastbay]

Not all that weird at all.

These monsters all demand and will fund more and more war because they know their US constituents demand war. The American electorate craves dead civilians. Mountains of them. And this hi-tech killing machine don't come cheap.

Look at the recent presidential election. We witnessed a phantasmagoric display featuring McCain and Obama struggling to demonstrate which one was the most pro-war. Obama clearly won promising to deliver more war in Afghanistan and Pakistan... and anywhere he thought to do so... maybe with N Korea and Iran soon too. And he's delivering on his war promise because he must get re-elected in 2012.

Nope, no surprise at all. They all just want to get re-elected and are simply delivering what the stinkin' liberals and conservatives demand: More war.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Keith_McClary', 'W')eird.

Does anyone seriously think that the US will be able to sustain an empire of puppet dictators and protectorates over the Mideast and central Asia for the coming decades and derive any net benefit from it? The only beneficiaries will be the "merchants of death" a.k.a. "military industrial complex".

[Caffeine]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'N')ot all that weird at all.

These monsters all demand and will fund more and more war because they know their US constituents demand war. The American electorate craves dead civilians. Mountains of them. And this hi-tech killing machine don't come cheap.

[eastbay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Caffeine', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'N')ot all that weird at all.

These monsters all demand and will fund more and more war because they know their US constituents demand war. The American electorate craves dead civilians. Mountains of them. And this hi-tech killing machine don't come cheap.

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Caffeine', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'N')ot all that weird at all.

These monsters all demand and will fund more and more war because they know their US constituents demand war. The American electorate craves dead civilians. Mountains of them. And this hi-tech killing machine don't come cheap.

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Caffeine', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'N')ot all that weird at all.

These monsters all demand and will fund more and more war because they know their US constituents demand war. The American electorate craves dead civilians. Mountains of them. And this hi-tech killing machine don't come cheap.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', '
')I look forward to a time when the US electorate choses a pro-peace presidential candidate instead of a pro-war candidate like Obama.

[Kristen]

I thought Obama promised to end the war? The reason people are so complacent is because we're so desensitized from hearing of it so often.

But you guys are right. No matter who you vote for you still get the same outcome.

[pablonite]

This guy was the only presidential candidate who was not a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, whose front man has been David Rockefeller for so many years now. They run American foreign policy and own the state department.

Ron Paul has made many startling speeches, mostly relating to the bankers control of America and if I am not mistaken has always supported the dismantling of the Federal Reserve.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Keith_McClary', 'D')oes anyone seriously think that the US will be able to sustain an empire of puppet dictators and protectorates over the Mideast and central Asia for the coming decades and derive any net benefit from it? The only beneficiaries will be the "merchants of death" a.k.a. "military industrial complex".