[PeakingAroundtheCorner]

Hoffmeister said the PO theory is flawed because it doesn't take into account oil from "unconventional sources". He also says that the entire industry is moving forward with their plan to achieve 100 million barrels of production per day by 2020 ( I think, but might've been 2030 ).

Complete and total denial - both of Peak Oil and of any future supply issues.

View the hearing live at CSPAN

[PeakingAroundtheCorner]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PeakingAroundtheCorner', 'H')offmeister said the PO theory is flawed because it doesn't take into account oil from "unconventional sources". He also says that the entire industry is moving forward with their plan to achieve 100 million barrels of production per day by 2020 ( I think, but might've been 2030 ).

Complete and total denial - both of Peak Oil and of any future supply issues.

View the hearing live at CSPAN

[UncoveringTruths]

Same shit different year!

[PeakingAroundtheCorner]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('UncoveringTruths', 'S')ame shit different year!

[Grifter]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PeakingAroundtheCorner', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('UncoveringTruths', 'S')ame shit different year!

[Cashmere]

Dispute, not deny.

It can never be denied until it beyond dispute, and it will never be beyond dispute.

I believe and live my life on a daily basis believing that we have just passed or will soon pass peak oil.

Those who disagree with me are not "deniers", they are people who disagree with me.

To call them deniers is to imply that we can't be wrong about this.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', '
')To call them deniers is to imply that we can't be wrong about this.

[Valdemar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', 'D')ispute, not deny.

It can never be denied until it beyond dispute, and it will never be beyond dispute.

I believe and live my life on a daily basis believing that we have just passed or will soon pass peak oil.

Those who disagree with me are not "deniers", they are people who disagree with me.

To call them deniers is to imply that we can't be wrong about this.

[catbox]

They just wanna keep those cars a running anyway they can!


I didn't watch....I won't pay for television.

cb

[dinopello]

Exxon says

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')imon said his company, which earned $40 billion last year, had provided $100 million on research into climate change at Stanford University, but that current alternative energy technologies "just do not have an appreciable impact" in addressing "the challenge we're trying to meet."

[Cashmere]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_code('', 'That's a lot of fancy semantics amounting to naught. They're deniers, any which way you cut it. To deny a basic principle such as a finite resource running out could probably be more accurately labelled "retarded".')

Oh, is that what we're about?

I didn't think our loyal opposition was arguing that we were not going to run out.

I thought their position was that we're not going to run out soon.

So, the way I cut it, they have the scientifically weaker position.

But, if a gun was held to my head, I certainly wouldn't claim, 100%, that I can't be wrong about this.

[Valdemar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', '
')
Oh, is that what we're about?

I didn't think our loyal opposition was arguing that we were not going to run out.

I thought their position was that we're not going to run out soon.

So, the way I cut it, they have the scientifically weaker position.

But, if a gun was held to my head, I certainly wouldn't claim, 100%, that I can't be wrong about this.

[FreddyH]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', 'S')o, the way I cut it, they have the scientifically weaker position.

[AirlinePilot]

Freddy,

Its going to be funny to watch you back pedal when the first shortages arrive. I don't think we have a very long time to wait for it either.

23 studies from the same exact folks who claim there is no problem. Now why don't you see the issues with that?

Denial Indeed!

[KillTheHumans]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FreddyH', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', 'S')o, the way I cut it, they have the scientifically weaker position.

[FoolYap]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PeakingAroundtheCorner', 'U')hhhh...Am I the only person on this board that watched a Cogressional hearing attended by the CEO/Execs of the five Big Oils?

[shortonoil]

FreddyH said:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')olin Campbell's first declaration that All Liquids had peaked already was back in 1989. Next year will be the 20th anniversary of these ludicrous pronouncements by McPeaksters and thus all credibility among Legislators has been lost.

[FreddyH]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', 'F')reddy, 23 studies from the same exact folks who claim there is no problem. Now why don't you see the issues with that?

Denial Indeed!

[FreddyH]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonoil', '[')b]FreddyH said:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')olin Campbell's first declaration that All Liquids had peaked already was back in 1989. Next year will be the 20th anniversary of these ludicrous pronouncements by McPeaksters and thus all credibility among Legislators has been lost.

[Starvid]

A peak of 91 mbpd in 2013 sounds extremely reasonable to me. I feel the date is not terribly important. No matter how you measure time, we will peak "soon" or very soon. This is big enough to warrant attention, and swift action.

The big question mark is how swift the decline will be. Both on current fields, and when new production has been subtracted.