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Joe Lieberman: Republican voters may save him

Unread postby Zardoz » Thu 03 Aug 2006, 11:43:37

Joe Lieberman: Republican voters may save him: The new American political "litmus test": Whether or not you really supported invading Iraq. Joe did, and it's going to send him into retirement:

Bye, Joe

We'll be waving goodbye to a lot more supporters of the Iraq fiasco in the near future.
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Re: Joe Lieberman may be history

Unread postby foodnotlawns » Thu 03 Aug 2006, 11:51:39

I registered Democrat just to vote against the Hebrew Warmonger.

Go Lamont!

I think people with names like "Drew," or "Sid," or "Mike," or even "Rini," should run against Jewish Congresspeople, so you can have a slogan:

Vote for Drew, not the Jew!

Vote for Sid, not the Yid!

Vote for Mike, not the . . . you get the idea. ':lol:'
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Re: Joe Lieberman may be history

Unread postby greenworm » Thu 03 Aug 2006, 12:35:26

I don't appreciate false democrats (neocons in hiding) as much as the next person, however, Lamont supports Israel's latest actions against Hezbollah, something to keep in mind.
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Re: Joe Lieberman may be history

Unread postby ClassicSpiderman » Thu 03 Aug 2006, 13:26:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('greenworm', 'I') don't appreciate false democrats (neocons in hiding) as much as the next person, however, Lamont supports Israel's latest actions against Hezbollah, something to keep in mind.


Lamont is fake opposition. The neocons sensed the discontent towards Joementum so they decided to replace him with a neocon monkey and dressed him up with grassroots street cred.
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Re: Joe Lieberman may be history

Unread postby Free » Thu 03 Aug 2006, 13:27:21

Please stop it foodnotlawns!

If somebody is a jew it doesn't mean you support Zionism or AIPAC or Israels policies! On the contrary, a majority of Jews in the US was against the Iraq war for example, proportionally much more than other ethnical groups!

You really have to separate "Israel" and "Jews" here, it's not the same thing! And within Israel there is opposition as well by the way...

If you don't differentiate you are just a plain antisemite, nothing less... (and god knows how much I hate calling the "A"-word...)
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Re: Joe Lieberman may be history

Unread postby foodnotlawns » Thu 03 Aug 2006, 13:37:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Free', 'P')lease stop it foodnotlawns!

If somebody is a jew it doesn't mean you support Zionism or AIPAC or Israels policies! On the contrary, a majority of Jews in the US was against the Iraq war for example, proportionally much more than other ethnical groups!

You really have to separate "Israel" and "Jews" here, it's not the same thing! And within Israel there is opposition as well by the way...

If you don't differentiate you are just a plain antisemite, nothing less... (and god knows how much I hate calling the "A"-word...)


http://www.israelshamir.net/Left/marxists.htm

http://www.israelshamir.net/Contributor ... butor6.htm

By the way, why are the Germans still being collectively punished for the alleged crimes of the Third Reich? If collective guilt is good for the Germans, then it's good for the Hebrews, says I.

By the way, I'm not an anti-Semite, I'm anti-Jewish.
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Re: Joe Lieberman may be history

Unread postby Eli » Thu 03 Aug 2006, 13:39:51

Well I hate digging into what the term neoconservative means and what its' origins are

Wikipedia has a good write up and analysis of where the term came from.

Free you are absolutely right this is not about Jews, they are not some monolithic group who are all of the same mind. It is about a certain political faction and the current nation of Israel.

I am not an anti-Semite nor will truck with those who are but of late I have been questioning more and more the undue political influence of those who unquestioningly support every action of the Israeli government, no matter what those individuals heritage or faith background might be.
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Re: Joe Lieberman may be history

Unread postby ClassicSpiderman » Thu 03 Aug 2006, 13:42:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Free', 'I')f somebody is a jew it doesn't mean you support Zionism or AIPAC or Israels policies! On the contrary, a majority of Jews in the US was against the Iraq war for example, proportionally much more than other ethnical groups!


It's funny how the most outspoken Jewish politician who was opposed to the war (Paul Wellstone, Democrat) died during his re-election, only to be replaced by another Jewish politician (Norm Coleman, Republican) who was rabidly in favor of the war.

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Re: Joe Lieberman may be history

Unread postby Free » Thu 03 Aug 2006, 14:03:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('foodnotlawns', '
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By the way, why are the Germans still being collectively punished for the alleged crimes of the Third Reich? If collective guilt is good for the Germans, then it's good for the Hebrews, says I.

By the way, I'm not an anti-Semite, I'm anti-Jewish.


The Germans are not collectively punished - they pay reparations until 2011 for crimes that were not alleged but real and among the worst crimes in history of mankind.

And IMHO it's just stupid to be anti-anything, if you don't differentiate. For example although I am against current policies of the USA and in that respect anti-American, I am not anti-American citizen.

It's deeply inhumane and as I said stupid to judge somebody because of something he was born with.

I am worried too about the Neocons, the hardcore Zionists, AIPAC, their policies and their influence. And I watch them very closely, and find it outrageous if somebody is called an Antisemite because of that.

But it would never come to my mind to be against somebody only because he is a jew or was born with 11 fingers instead of 10 or whatever.
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Re: Joe Lieberman may be history

Unread postby Gigashadow » Thu 03 Aug 2006, 14:45:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Free', '
')The Germans are not collectively punished - they pay reparations until 2011 for crimes that were not alleged but real and among the worst crimes in history of mankind.


The majority of Germans alive now weren't even around for that, it's hardly fair to be born there and then pay for someone else's mistake.
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Re: Joe Lieberman may be history

Unread postby Eli » Thu 03 Aug 2006, 14:59:56

Well put foodnotlawns.

Only by preaching more hate and advocating the mass slaughter of a whole race will we ever be able to live in peace.[smilie=bduh.gif]

You my friend are nutters.

And congratulations your last post has guaranteed you a spot on my idiots to ignore list.
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Re: Joe Lieberman may be history

Unread postby Free » Thu 03 Aug 2006, 15:08:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gigashadow', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Free', '
')The Germans are not collectively punished - they pay reparations until 2011 for crimes that were not alleged but real and among the worst crimes in history of mankind.


The majority of Germans alive now weren't even around for that, it's hardly fair to be born there and then pay for someone else's mistake.


Life's not fair. I would prefer to pay for the crimes of my ancestors than getting paid for the incredible suffering and near annihilation of my ancestors.

And it's not that the Germans have nothing to eat because they have to pay a bit of reparations. Now the Morgenthau Plan, that would have been collective punishment!

As for foodnotlawns I think you are hopelessly intoxicated with hate. If you can't make a difference between jews who support the criminal Zionists and the ones who don't, everything is lost.

The Dracula comment would be comical if we didn't know because of history that it is exactly such hate speech which leads to horrible pain.
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Re: Joe Lieberman may be history

Unread postby TommyJefferson » Thu 03 Aug 2006, 15:27:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', '.')..this is not about Jews, they are not some monolithic group who are all of the same mind.


Hey, I wanna cop some of that for Texans and southerners.

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Re: Joe Lieberman may be history

Unread postby marko » Thu 03 Aug 2006, 15:36:11

Returning to the original topic, I just want to say that losing Lieberman will be one of the best things to happen to the Democratic Party in a decade.

On the other hand, I was about to write Ned Lamont a check when I looked at his website and saw his statement of strong support for Israel's right to "defend itself as it sees fit."

I guess that kind of statement is part of the job description these days if you want to raise campaign contributions. But Lamont didn't get mine.
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Re: Joe Lieberman may be history

Unread postby Zardoz » Thu 03 Aug 2006, 15:49:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TommyJefferson', '.')..Hey, I wanna cop some of that for Texans and southerners.

Kunstler and Peakoilers delight in stereotyping and ridiculing us.

Right, just as Texans delight in stereotyping and ridiculing Californians, New Yorkers, and New Englanders.
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Re: Joe Lieberman may be history

Unread postby greenworm » Thu 03 Aug 2006, 21:02:21

You know there are other candidates: Independent

I never vote for repocrats, only because they don't usually have my best interests at heart. This guy at least wants to redistribute the tax burden away from workers to the corporations as their slice of the burden becomes less and less every year. I don't know his views on the Lebanon/Israel conflict, but I am sure you can find out if ya ask him.
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Re: Joe Lieberman may be history

Unread postby Free » Thu 03 Aug 2006, 21:49:03

The curse of the kiss... :-D

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Re: Joe Lieberman may be history

Unread postby Zardoz » Fri 04 Aug 2006, 10:50:37

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Re: Joe Lieberman may be history

Unread postby foodnotlawns » Fri 04 Aug 2006, 13:28:14

No, he's going to run as an independent and make it a three way, and probably will win another term as a Senator, albeit in a dirty way.

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Re: Joe Lieberman may be history

Unread postby greenworm » Fri 04 Aug 2006, 16:14:46

Speaking of dirty ways, did anyone see in the news that some of Lamont's supporters got run over? Some old guy drove his car into a group of people some of whom were actually working on Lamont's campaign. Must have been the folks behind the Lieberman face morphing into Bush face commercial. :lol:
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