[seahorse]

Ever since KBR publicly announced they were contracted to build a "detention facility" for the Department of Homeland Security, I've been wondering what that means.

Let's assume that the powers that be in the United States, like most here, agree that the United States is facing a severe economic crisis, probably from multiple fronts - lack of faith in dollar, energy crisis, etc. This ultimately means Americans will continue to lose jobs, and will want someone's head as people always do when they are mad, broke and hungry. How would that cultural anger be channeled?

I can't help but suspecting that the United States will channel its economic frustration on "immigration." Already, we see the "broken borders" making the news daily. We also see the rise of "the minute men" and a proposal in Congress to build a wall across the US/Mexican border.

It only seems logical, then, that if another depression hits America, a very likely target for all that frustration will be the "hispanics" taking all our jobs. We already see some of this frustration with the re-building of New Orleans. Locals are saying the illegal immigrants are taking all the rebuilding jobs that should be going to the locals. After the Civil War, when the slaves were freed, the KKK arose. There is a good historical argument that the rise of the KKK, made up of poor white workers, was in direct response to the new competition on the job market by freed slaves - basically, an ideological response to economic displacement. The same thing essentially happened in pre WWII Nazi Germany. A destitute German people needed simple answers to their economic woes and blamed it on the Jews.

I wonder if the same pressures are now building in the United States which would cause or could cause the internment of immigrants in the "detention facilities" being built by KBR? Maybe, the US will be smart enough not to do anything with Iran or the Middle East, but I find it hard to believe that the US will sit by and watch Chavez, Castro and others form any anti-U.S. alliances in its own hemisphere, especially in light of the Monroe Doctrine.

The KBR contract has to be a reflection of something, and the above was simply one take on what it may reflect. I'm interested in hearing any other thoughts about what the KBR camps may reflect and what it may all lead to, especially if there were a depression or serious recession.

[rogerhb]

Where else are all the people who are going to lose their collective shirts in the "Great Housing Bubble" going to stay?

[jato]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') can't help but suspecting that the United States will channel its economic frustration on "immigration." Already, we see the "broken borders" making the news daily. We also see the rise of "the minute men" and a proposal in Congress to build a wall across the US/Mexican border

[Dreamtwister]

What worries me is, if this project is public knowledge and openly admitted to, how many other projects are under way right now that we DON'T know about?

[hoplite]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dreamtwister', 'W')hat worries me is, if this project is public knowledge and openly admitted to, how many other projects are under way right now that we DON'T know about?

[UIUCstudent01]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', 'W')here else are all the people who are going to lose their collective shirts in the "Great Housing Bubble" going to stay?

[kochevnik]

I remember doing/seeing math awhile back that indicated if you built a bunch of tall concrete apartment buildings spaced close together, you could fit 150 + million in an area 5 miles on a side. Plot out some area like that in Kansas, and anyone who doesn't have a job gets 'relocated'. This serves 2 purposes - first of course it gets the useless eaters all in one place where they can be easily controlled and supplied with a minimum amount of food and water. It also makes it easy to dispose of them quickly (if that decision is ever made) - drop a small nuke and poof ! instant population reduction.

The second advantage to this scheme is that you scare the shit out of the remaining population who will now do ANYTHING to keep themselves out of this 'paradise'. It is absolutely impossible to believe that the govt, faced with a terrible crisis (like PO) would not do whatever was necessary to keep control over the situation. And worse, most people would support them in that effort - at least until they were rounded up themselves.

I don't know what these particular KBR things are - but I am positive that in the event of widespread riots (say food or fuel or unemployment riots) people WILL be rounded up. 100 percent guaranteed. Now figure what the odds are on us getting thru PO without widepsread riots of some type ? .0001 percent is my guess. Hence we now have a pretty good idea of what the future holds for some people.

[kochevnik]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('UIUCstudent01', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', 'W')here else are all the people who are going to lose their collective shirts in the "Great Housing Bubble" going to stay?

[Dreamtwister]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hoplite', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dreamtwister', 'W')hat worries me is, if this project is public knowledge and openly admitted to, how many other projects are under way right now that we DON'T know about?

[Colorado-Valley]

Whenever I hear of the KBR civilian internment camps, there is always an allusion to the arrest of political dissidents. I just hope they put all us "peak oilers" in the same camp so we can theorize about energy depletion with inmates of the same persuasion.
Gulag.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Colorado-Valley', 'I') just hope they put all us "peak oilers" in the same camp so we can theorize about energy depletion with inmates of the same persuasion.

[Daculling]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seahorse', 'T')he same thing essentially happened in pre WWII Nazi Germany. A destitute German people needed simple answers to their economic woes and blamed it on the Jews.

[LadyRuby]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jato', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') can't help but suspecting that the United States will channel its economic frustration on "immigration." Already, we see the "broken borders" making the news daily. We also see the rise of "the minute men" and a proposal in Congress to build a wall across the US/Mexican border

[seahorse2]

Ft. Chaffee in Fort Smith, Arkansas, was used this summer to process hurricane victims. So, even though this old army base has been deactivated, as you point out, whether its Cuban refugees or hurrican refugees, it can be up and running in an instant.

[ab0di]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seahorse', 'T')he KBR contract has to be a reflection of something, and the above was simply one take on what it may reflect. I'm interested in hearing any other thoughts about what the KBR camps may reflect and what it may all lead to, especially if there were a depression or serious recession.

[LadyRuby]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ab0di', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seahorse', 'T')he KBR contract has to be a reflection of something, and the above was simply one take on what it may reflect. I'm interested in hearing any other thoughts about what the KBR camps may reflect and what it may all lead to, especially if there were a depression or serious recession.

[meekoil]

Look, I won't claim that I think this admin is beyond intering people, Gitmo proves they're not. But as far as the concentration camps articles floating around the net, it's just some guy with pictures of WWII POW camps and a list of said camps.

I too believed for a little while, till I noticed that every "list" of camps, said that Camp Opelika was being "renovated to hold prisoners". That's news to the industrial park that now sits on the land that was Camp Opelika. And before somw kook says " the big industrial buildings could be the camps", let me make it known that I delivered pizzas in Opelika, AL for 6 years (93-2000) while I attended Auburn University, and have been in all those buildings several times. There are no prison camps. There is simply no room.

Camp Opelika read #25

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NiKfUrY69', 'A')rizona? Yeah, immigration. Montana? Immigration? Harly. More like slave labor for the coal mines.

[meekoil]

Nik, Sorry, didn't me to suggest that I disagree that said camps are being built, just with some of the claims that hundreds already exist. I even tried to find one that many sites claim is in Unadilla, GA. No luck.