[PenultimateManStanding]

I've been watching the 4th season of 24 and I got it before it happened. 24 million people can die, the POTUS can die, but Jack Bauer can't die. Why? Kiefer Sutherland is why. heh heh. He's the show! I'm waiting for the 24 season on Peak Oil. Jack Bauer will find 350 billion barrels of oil that were hidden by Saudi Terrorists!

[mekrob]

4th? Wait until you watch through the 6th season. Four presidents. All of them have weaknesses and are expendable (not always when they are POTUS when it occurs).

Anyway, 2nd season is about forging data to get the US to go to war to secure oil reserves. Same with the 5th. 6th is coming close, I think (another ME one).

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mekrob', '4')th? Wait until you watch through the 6th season. Four presidents. All of them have weaknesses and are expendable (not always when they are POTUS when it occurs).

Anyway, 2nd season is about forging data to get the US to go to war to secure oil reserves. Same with the 5th. 6th is coming close, I think (another ME one).

[PenultimateManStanding]

One of the clever dramatic elements of this series is that anyone can die. (as long as it isn't Jack Bauer, though I suspect he will die in the last season). But really, think about it, Hollywood has always played it that someone couldn't die. Someone vital to the show couldn't die. But now the zeitgeist is getting closer. . .

[mekrob]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mekrob', '4')th? Wait until you watch through the 6th season. Four presidents. All of them have weaknesses and are expendable (not always when they are POTUS when it occurs).

Anyway, 2nd season is about forging data to get the US to go to war to secure oil reserves. Same with the 5th. 6th is coming close, I think (another ME one).

[mekrob]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'O')ne of the clever dramatic elements of this series is that anyone can die. (as long as it isn't Jack Bauer, though I suspect he will die in the last season). But really, think about it, Hollywood has always played it that someone couldn't die. Someone vital to the show couldn't die. But now the zeitgeist is getting closer. . .

[PenultimateManStanding]

You aren't following me, Mekrob. The public is getting closer and closer to understanding how fucked we all are. This show is what I would consider evidence. . .

[PenultimateManStanding]

You may be tired of the show, mekrob, but I still can't get enough of it. What a rush!

[mekrob]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'Y')ou may be tired of the show, mekrob, but I still can't get enough of it. What a rush!

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mekrob', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'Y')ou may be tired of the show, mekrob, but I still can't get enough of it. What a rush!

[PenultimateManStanding]

Jack finally captures the terrorist mastermind, Habib Marwan, (yeah he was the answer to the Jeopardy question: suicide bombers for 200, and he's fictional, so sue me) What does Jack do? he shoots Marwan in a painful spot and then lets his gun do an erotic dance around Marwan's face & neck. Just to get info of course. But Jack has just lost his love because he's too brutal. I pick this kind of shit up. I know what they are doing.

[PenultimateManStanding]

I'm watching season 5. incredible. The psychological tension is fantastic. double-crosses and paranoia rampant. These are some talented people who put this together. The plot lines are credible and crazy at the same time. This is what I'm talking about with regard to the zeitgeist. Now I'm reading that Pakistan is about to explode, and they have nukes. Not entertainment, reality.

[NEOPO]

This show is desensitization conditioning not education or reality although if the NEOCON ZIONIST element have their way many of these plotlines may become reality.

[PenultimateManStanding]

This is probably the way the meme gets out about peak oil. There was a cabal of American defense industry people who were plotting to set off a WMD incident in central asia to justify going in and securing 'the flow of oil for another generation'. That's it folks. Do we have another 'generation'? What about the generation after that? How long do we keep saying 'the future' will handle it? My guess, and I'm not certain about anything, is that the gig is up, now.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'T')his show is desensitization conditioning not education or reality although if the NEOCON ZIONIST element have their way many of these plotlines may become reality.

[NEOPO]

I have "caught" it a couple of times like Jericho and others along these lines but I have heard about it alot more then I have watched it.

Heck man I can tell just by what I hear, the articles written about it, the many many commercials running about it right down to this thread you started about it etc etc that I dont feel I need to watch it to get the gist plus its on FOX so wtf?

You gotta look at many things like this, no?
As part of the conspiracy to condition people?
I certainly do but yet again maybe I have watched too many MK ULTRA OPERATION PAPERCLIP OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD documentaries and such

There is little or nothing that these people could come up with that some of us have not already pondered

Ok another idea - its a scary fucked up world for you to imagine so you will feel okay about this scary fucked up world Apathy ala mode on a platter...

New season preview of 24

Nothin proper about ya propaganda!

[PenultimateManStanding]

Look, NEO, I'm not the model for sobriety, but you are by your own admission a chronic stoner. You claim that THC is not a drug. You say 'don't go there with me, you will lose' in a belligerent attempt to forestall criticism. It is you that needs an attitude adjustment. We all have problems. It's time for you to realize that. In fact, it's time for all of us to realize that.

[NEOPO]

Him take him booboo out into a new thread and lament cryptically in front of all the rest of plato's cavemen yes him did...

"24" is further proof of the microscopic parasitic dementia theory!


Yep started with the father and all the paranoid alien gonna getcha! BS and now with the son feeding the MOFN beast.



Lastly I shouldnt need to remind anyone of the significance of the name Bauer.....
Yep its a mad mad mad mad mad mad mad Neocon Zionist Elitist kinda world folks.

[PenultimateManStanding]

I'll say nothing more about that issue. I do want to make some more points about 24 though.

I read a New Yorker article about the series. There were some military people who went out to see the creators of the show to express grave concerns about the use of physical torture in all the episodes. It seems that it is having an impact new soldiers, as it is very popular with them. The credo, "do what it takes" is hitting pay dirt with some. The military wants to point out that other methods work better. It's a strange world, and perhaps those brass were sent out as a propaganda measure. The show is also very popular in the White House. And many Americans are worried that the liberal humane values of our culture are being exploited by the enemy. But here is where it gets stranger still, Barbara Streisand and Bill Clinton love the show too. And some of the plots involve evil Anglo-American plots to secure oil supplies. Many of the issues of the Left are addressed in favorable ways.

Here's what I think is going on: the producers of this series are giving red meat to the Right and the Left. These guys are sitting on a cash cow, and they know what they're doing. Another way of looking at it is that they are just presenting how both sides think and creating drama out of the current American divides. Doing it very well, too. Keifer Sutherland is getting 10 million per season, I read in that article. He's the grandson of a prominent Canadian socialist and is 'left of center' he says. One of the creators is a Jewish son of a carpet salesman who went to college in the 60s with little money and found it hypocritical how all his radical marxist classmates were all from wealthy families.

[PenultimateManStanding]

Another point on this: Kunstler's point that Americans are looking for some way to keep the cars going has a subtext, if you've noticed it: even the Left wants to keep the cars going. Everybody wants to keep the cars going. Keeping the cars going transcends the political divide. There is a very obvious reason for this: everybody knows that we're all screwed if we can't. In fact, this is where I find Kunstler and all the power-downers deluded. They want us to ramp up rail and water transport, but that's a fool's errand. They want to rebuild the past. It's not going to happen. We've made our bed and now we've got to lie in it. It isn't the 'psychology of previous investment', it's the reality of previous investment.