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Approaching next uptick of novelty - time wave 0

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Approaching next uptick of novelty - time wave 0

Unread postby o2ny » Wed 15 Oct 2008, 06:04:07

Hi

Some of you may have heard of Terence McKenna's 'time wave 0', a theory that maps periods of extreme 'novelty' throughout history, where novelty is defined 'newness, density of complexification, and dynamic change as opposed to static habituation'.

McKenna's map has novelty spikes around periods of history such as the extinction of the dinosaurs, industrial revolution, etc. Apparently the spikes should happen closer and closer together in time, until we reach a point of infinite novelty- the 'singularity', in 2012.

The current environment of 'crashes & collapses' lead me back to the theory, (a full article can be found on wikipedia), and sure enough, the next period of novelty is set to begin November 2008.

In my mind I've been having strange, logically irrational feelings that money just won't matter anymore in the near future, that all of the systems we have set up to transact finance and trade currencies back and forth to each other over the globe will cease to have any importance... it seems they will just melt away.

If this does occur, I don't know what it will mean for human life on the planet.. but I don't consider it something to be afraid of, but merely the falling away of a system that no longer serves humanity. All through the 'good times' of the housing boom and other periods of extreme accumulation of wealth and posessions, who can really say any of that caused a state of peace and happiness, as opposed to anxiety and fear? For many wealthy people, the more money they accumulate only leads to increased levels of stress as their lives become solely about maintaining and increasing that wealth...

Yes I realize many can see McKenna's work as ramblings of a 60s psychedlic trip, but the power and accuracy of writings to date give him a level of credibility that's hard to describe in rational thought.

Check out the wikipedia entry and see if any of it rings true for yourself... Novelty theory
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Re: Approaching next uptick of novelty - time wave 0

Unread postby Micki » Wed 15 Oct 2008, 06:18:10

The Wiki link didn't exactly clarify things. (i.e. dead link)

Let me meanwhile hang on to a couple of things.
- You have a feeling the change is about money and yet we shouldn't worry.
- The whole thing suddenly ends or flatlines in 2012, but we shouldn't worry.
- The dinosaurs went through one of those novelty theory changes. Should they not have worried either?
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Re: Approaching next uptick of novelty - time wave 0

Unread postby blukatzen » Wed 15 Oct 2008, 10:53:12

You had mentioned the Novelty date set next at November 2008. That is the next period in the Mayan Calendar where we enter the period of the Sixth Day ruled by the Goddess of Birth. We are leaving the period of "Night 5", which is ruled by The Lord of Darkness. For more, see Carl Johann Calleman's work at www.calleman.com .
Look at the section on "The Mayan Calendar" and it will explain how and WHY it says what it says. (you have to understand that it is not about "time" per se, but about the "quality" of each time period, and what it represents.)

The ideas behind timewave zero were formulated by using the I-Ching, or book of changes, so if you understood the ideas behind these 2 systems, (which should, in theory, correspond to "truth", it is just a cultural expression behind what is the grand "truth".) one would understand what, and more importantly, WHY we are experiencing what is happening now.

Remember, it's about the Quality of time. That is the key to surfing this wavelength in time.

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Re: Approaching next uptick of novelty - time wave 0

Unread postby blukatzen » Wed 15 Oct 2008, 10:56:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Micki', 'T')he Wiki link didn't exactly clarify things. (i.e. dead link)

Let me meanwhile hang on to a couple of things.
- You have a feeling the change is about money and yet we shouldn't worry.
- The whole thing suddenly ends or flatlines in 2012, but we shouldn't worry.
- The dinosaurs went through one of those novelty theory changes. Should they not have worried either?


Sometimes, it's all about the entropy. You have to lance that boil before it gets healed up. This is not about value judgements per individual. It's about grand cycles of time-change. We've done this before, and will do it again.

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Re: Approaching next uptick of novelty - time wave 0

Unread postby blukatzen » Wed 15 Oct 2008, 11:06:17

Good link to find out more about "quality of time" about the different Katuns of time, and what we are about to enter in November of 2008...link

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PS the old Mike Hagan radio show (now archived) has an Interview with him, go to www.mikehagan.com or "radio Orbit" and you can listen to his shows for free. (he's since retired from making them.) Lots of GREAT shows there; as he was friends with Terrence and Dennis McKenna, and has had shows with Dennis. He has posted some of Terrance's lectures.
This is a good "FYI" on this topic, or for those coming up to speed on the subject matter at hand.
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