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First Hand Look at Survivial in an Economic Meltdown

Unread postby Beignet2 » Wed 30 Jul 2008, 18:37:29

I found this over at itulip.
Here are just a few snippets with the link at the bottom:

What I would do if I were you: Besides gold coins, buy a lot of small gold rings and other jewelry. They should be less expensive than gold coins, and if the SHTF bad, you’ll not be loosing money, selling premium quality gold coins for the price of junk gold. If I could travel back in time, I’d buy a small bag worth of gold rings.

Within the first week, he got sick, some kind of strong flu, even though climate isn’t that cold and he took care of himself. Without a doubt he got sick because there are lots of new viruses in my country that can’t be found in 1st world countries. The misery and famine lead us to a situation where, even though you have food, shelter and health care, most of others don’t, and therefore they get sick and spread the diseases all over the region.

Someone once asked me how did those that live in the country fare. If they were better off than city dwellers. As always there are no simple answers
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Re: First Hand Look at Survivial in an Economic Meltdown

Unread postby Aimrehtopyh » Wed 30 Jul 2008, 23:34:28

FerFals stuff is well worth the time. An educated observer documenting his country's slide into third world hellhole conditions.
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Re: First Hand Look at Survivial in an Economic Meltdown

Unread postby CarlinsDarlin » Thu 31 Jul 2008, 03:05:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')nce the SHTF, money is no longer measured in money, but you start seeing it as the necessary goods it can buy. Stuff like food, medicine, gas, or the private medical service bill.

Funny, this is how I think about money most of the time now.
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Re: First Hand Look at Survivial in an Economic Meltdown

Unread postby Devin » Thu 31 Jul 2008, 09:45:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he solution is to stay away from the cities but in groups, either by living in a small town-community or sub division, or if you have friends or family that think as you do, form your own small community. Some may think that having neighbors within “shouting” distance means loosing your privacy and freedom, but it’s a price that you have to pay if you want to have someone to help you if you ever need it. [...] I got married, had a son, and found out that when you have loved ones around you black outs are not as bad. The point is that family helps morale on these situations.

I liked this.
Then he spends a lot of time talking about guns and lost me there.
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Re: First Hand Look at Survivial in an Economic Meltdown

Unread postby PrairieMule » Thu 31 Jul 2008, 15:32:09

Tip of the hat to you for finding this. This is a great article.
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Re: First Hand Look at Survivial in an Economic Meltdown

Unread postby Beignet2 » Thu 31 Jul 2008, 15:38:22

Thanks PrairieM,
Here is his blog: link

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Re: First Hand Look at Survivial in an Economic Meltdown

Unread postby dovey » Thu 31 Jul 2008, 17:31:24

very informative from someone who is now experiencing what we mayall soon experience to some degree. thanks for this post and blog.
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Re: First Hand Look at Survivial in an Economic Meltdown

Unread postby POAlex » Sat 02 Aug 2008, 01:59:33

I think this sums it up quite well in light of what is happening to our nations.

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"If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land." (2 Chronicles 7:14)

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Re: First Hand Look at Survivial in an Economic Meltdown

Unread postby Beignet2 » Fri 08 Aug 2008, 16:40:17

New post in Surviving in Argentina: link
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Re: First Hand Look at Survivial in an Economic Meltdown

Unread postby Beignet2 » Thu 14 Aug 2008, 13:15:46

New post on surviving in Argentina. IS this what life will be like in America?

No one is safe. link

These things happen often, and being armed and not stopping or the combination of both always got me trough. But when they target you they may use other resources like setting traps like stones on the street or throwing bricks at your windshield to force you to stop.

Better to avoid these things and make sure they can’t figure out your route and schedule.

It may seem that for a blog intended on urban survival, I concentrate a lot on self defense. Believe me, there’s a reason for it. If things in USA keep on going down hill, expect crime to get worse even in small town America, and be ready to change your everyday habits
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Re: First Hand Look at Survivial in an Economic Meltdown

Unread postby MadScientist » Thu 14 Aug 2008, 14:23:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')uns are what you end up using when you fucked up and failed in your awareness.

Sounds like the zombies are loose in Argentina.

This guy should be required reading for anyone prepping for trouble.
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Re: First Hand Look at Survivial in an Economic Meltdown

Unread postby mark000 » Thu 14 Aug 2008, 21:20:32

I went out and spent about $800 on rechargeable batteries, chargers and torches after reading that guys story! Shit to trade with that won't be available oneday.
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Re: First Hand Look at Survivial in an Economic Meltdown

Unread postby The_Virginian » Sun 17 Aug 2008, 07:21:56

OCH 800 USD for batts? Try link
Fer FAL used to post on Frugal squirrel's web forum (and still better may)...cheap gold ( 10- 14 K) is better than nothing. BUT is sells at a discount as scrap gold... less than Karat.

BULLION is politically easier to confiscate, but you will loose 20- 30 USD under mean spot. Percentage wise you make out better.
(example 30 dollars off say 900 dollars = 3.3 % discount, not too shabby)

If you buy a "cheap" gold coin like krugerrand, you should not loose more than 50 USD off the deal ( 20 over spot buy, and 30 under spot to sell ) . YES coin and Jewelry dealers will take their cut!
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Re: First Hand Look at Survivial in an Economic Meltdown

Unread postby drew » Sun 17 Aug 2008, 08:06:01

That's a scary bunch of blogs from that Argentinian writer. Could things get that bad in an upcoming depression? Probably, which begs the question; crime didn't sky-rocket in the 30's in Canada and the States, did it? What has changed?

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Re: First Hand Look at Survivial in an Economic Meltdown

Unread postby Quinny » Sun 17 Aug 2008, 08:22:32

Does seem that way initially if you compare it to middle class suburbia, but what about in comparison to life in the projects, or on a large inner city council estate. Is it so different!
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('drew', 'T')hat's a scary bunch of blogs from that Argentinian writer. Could things get that bad in an upcoming depression? Probably, which begs the question; crime didn't sky-rocket in the 30's in Canada and the States, did it? What has changed?
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Re: First Hand Look at Survivial in an Economic Meltdown

Unread postby Beignet2 » Thu 21 Aug 2008, 09:16:21

New Post: This will be the new America soon. Read now and LEARN!!! link

There are other more subtle things bad guys see, maybe even without realizing it themselves clearly. The way a person walks, the way he carries himself. The clothes he wears, if he looks shy or weak in any way.
Clothes that looks a bit more “feminine”, things like hippie-like sandal or bags, or pastel colored clothes, and thing that can be read by these predators as a sign of possible weakness is working against you.

Don’t be ashamed of turning if you feel someone behind you, or turning 180 º the other way and leaving if something looks like an ambush. Hear, smell and see your environment. You should always know what’s going on at least half a block in front and behind you.

It’s also about the way you carry yourself, the way you walk, the way you keep your head high, looking confident. I don’t go around staring people, but I don’t avoid eye contact either, it’s a sign of weakness. Just look into the person’s eye long enough to let them know you acknowledge him and go on.
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Re: First Hand Look at Survivial in an Economic Meltdown

Unread postby TommyJefferson » Thu 21 Aug 2008, 11:21:42

That's true. I've been a self-defense instructor for over 15 years.

Very often people get hurt or killed because that didn't follow their gut instincts. They were afraid of "offending" someone by locking their car door or walking the other way. It's very sad.

The guy from Argentina has good advice: $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')wareness is by far the most important thing. Wont give you much to brag about with the guys but the confrontation you avoid is always better than the one you win.

Humans must the only creature that managed to suppress it’s instinct.

Don’t be ashamed of turning if you feel someone behind you, or turning 180 º the other way and leaving if something looks like an ambush. Hear, smell and see your environment. You should always know what’s going on at least half a block in front and behind you.

Also, and this may be a bit more difficult, train yourself mentally to react violently when surprised. This is so important. You should be aware and avoid being surprised by criminals, but if this fails your reaction must be instant and violent.
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Re: First Hand Look at Survivial in an Economic Meltdown

Unread postby PrairieMule » Thu 21 Aug 2008, 14:47:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TommyJefferson', 'V')ery often people get hurt or killed because that didn't follow their gut insticnts. They were afraid of "offending" someone by locking their car door or walking the other way.

So very true. Good post.
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Re: First Hand Look at Survivial in an Economic Meltdown

Unread postby Quinny » Thu 21 Aug 2008, 14:48:43

I came from a working class family and was always quite streetwise as a young man. I always used to scratch my head if tapped on the shoulder or jostled in a pub/club, I reckon that saved me a fair few whacks over the years.

As the first member of my extended family to go to University (Manchester) in 1979, I kept my streetwise edge and didn't get mugged in moss side or city centre like many of my fellow students did.

When I eventually got an executive job and got used to top hotels etc. I eventually dropped my guard. First time in Cloisters (city centre club) someone taps me on the shoulder asks me the time. Muggins here turns round to a pint glass in my face and a bunch of young scallies who'd seen my wallet decided to beat me up pretty bad. Ended up with 150 stitches in my face because I'd relaxed my previously streetwise attitude.

Point is though many of the situations described in the Buenos Aires blog are part of everyday life in many parts of Britain / US today. It's just that the middle class are often insulated from it by their wealth. Come the crash they'll need to learn street awareness pretty damn quick.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TommyJefferson', 'T')hat's true. I've been a self-defense instructor for over 15 years.
Very often people get hurt or killed because that didn't follow their gut insticnts. They were afraid of "offending" someone by locking their car door or walking the other way. It's very sad.
The guy from Argentina has good advice:$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')wareness is by far the most important thing. Wont give you much to brag about with the guys but the confrontation you avoid is always better than the one you win. Humans must the only creature that managed to suppress it’s instinct.
Don’t be ashamed of turning if you feel someone behind you, or turning 180 º the other way and leaving if something looks like an ambush. Hear, smell and see your environment. You should always know what’s going on at least half a block in front and behind you.
Also, and this may be a bit more difficult, train yourself mentally to react violently when surprised. This is so important. You should be aware and avoid being surprised by criminals, but if this fails your reaction must be instant and violent.
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Re: First Hand Look at Survivial in an Economic Meltdown

Unread postby ReverseEngineer » Thu 21 Aug 2008, 19:25:45

This is a really good account from the City Dweller's perspective.

I wonder if out there on the net are also any Suburban or Rural Argentinians, along with Argentinian "Wilderness Survivalists"? I'd love to hear their First Person narratives!
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