[charliebrownout]

It looks like I've got a husband on board 100% now. Completely, no more wishy-washy crap.

I'm not sure what tipped the scales, my descent into doomerishness, the price of fuel, his grandfather calling him to chat about how the economy/government are going to Hades in a wicker basket, my constantly turning on CNBC and pointing at their "oil crisis logo" (until they took it down...why'd they do that? It slipped to 122 and they thought it was over? I guess?)....radio contests for free gasoline and cars offering gas with purchase...

Whatever the case, I've finally got the go ahead to talk freely about downsizing and preparing for the worst. We're even mulling over the notion of storing every bit of money we can make in the next few months to try and get land. And we're talking about shutting off the cable and/or finding a way to get rid of the cars (no, we don't own SUVs, thank God).

I don't know if any of this will help, but I just wanted to tell others who have DH/SO/Wife/Whatever that won't listen...it can happen! I think we'll really be able to face things honestly now.

[Wren]

My husband always says things like, "yeah yeah, I know you're right" or "well, it does make sense." but ultimately would rather watch a cheesy comedy than news or "another" peak oil documentary. He enjoys the garden, the home baked/cooked goods, my insistane that I keep working extra for extra money, the over stocked cabinets, the over all do-t-ourselves attitude. But, if all I wanted to do was talk about kung fu movies and tattoos, he'd be just as happy. He thinks it's real, and he trusts me (thank goodness!) but he's just not interested in discussing "science stuff" or "depressing stuff". I'm def. the planner here.
I appreciated your commennts.
Good luck to you!

[RdSnt]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliebrownout', 'c')onstantly turning on CNBC and pointing at their "oil crisis logo" (until they took it down...why'd they do that?

[BigTex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliebrownout', 'I')t looks like I've got a husband on board 100% now. Completely, no more wishy-washy crap.

[hope_full]

Mine has good moments and bad. Glad to hear that yours turned a corner. Sometimes, my husband seems to understand that this problem is serious and other times, he just shrugs it off.

I'm busy stocking up on things and my bicycle is in the shop now getting some heavy-duty repairs (need a new rear wheel) and I have some other things in mind.

I do wish my husband would willingly invest in land out in the country. Very frustrating that he won't - YET.

HF

[catbox]

My wife is also on board but likes the happy side of life so I try and keep my reports of doom down to a minimum. Also, my 7 yr old totally gets PO and has explained it to her 1st grade class (her teacher is very PO aware).

We're a PO aware family....

catbox

[FoxV]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliebrownout', 'I')t looks like I've got a husband on board 100% now. Completely, no more wishy-washy crap.

[Cashmere]

Awesome!

I'm happy for you.

As everyone should know by now, if Cashmere's wife was not on board, Cashmere's wife would be left at the dock.

[hardtootell]

Wow- you are lucky. My wife almost wants to have me locked up. I have to make preps quietly and in secret even from her...We have 2 small kids so there is alot at stake.
its not like I am running around in camo. I look and act normally and keep a job

[taizy8]

I have tried telling my other half and He is nearly getting there. His plans were to try to stay on in the US but I am persuading him to go take a job somewhere else.
Meanwhile I am going to return to Ireland and try to persuade my family to make some plans. My dad will understand immediately and may be able to make some choices for the grandkids and extended family: perhaps sell the city house and buy a large farm.

[hardtootell]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', 'A')wesome!

I'm happy for you.

As everyone should know by now, if Cashmere's wife was not on board, Cashmere's wife would be left at the dock.

[charliebrownout]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RdSnt', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliebrownout', 'c')onstantly turning on CNBC and pointing at their "oil crisis logo" (until they took it down...why'd they do that?

[socrates1fan]

I don't have a significant other but I'm not sure how to talk about it with my family.
If I ever so much as mention the word 'preparation' I get bombarded for being to panicey and not taking into consideration of 'former events' that did not end in mass crisis.
I don't believe it will be the end of the world but it will be much harder than my family believes.
Being a child I have no power to even make choices when it comes to preperation. I cannot prevent us from being dependant on oil because I have no say.
Myself I am trying to be healthier, learn more about gardening, herbal medical care, and trying to be stronger.
It does me no good however if the rest of my family refuses to take interest in this issue.
I dont think we would have it as bad as many people (especially on the coasts.) simply because just about anything grows here(except tropical but grapes do!) and there is food here.
I'm concerned my family will get hit harder then before by rising food prices(did anyone else notice all the rotten food at wal-mart?!) and gas prices.
Being a history whizz a lot of my family believes I just want it to be 1849 or something(in reality, grose no. I prefer soap, razors, and deoderant!).
Anyone else have this problem?(and I am fully aware that most of you are adults who arent in this tight squeeze.)

[RdSnt]

I understand your predicament. Here's what I'd like to recommend.
It's clear you have made the decision to believe in the ramifications of PO and obviously you are not in a position to convince those around you, and it sounds like they aren't listening anyways.

Do you love them?

If so, learn what you need to in preparation to lead. At some point, if things go badly, your family is not going to know what to do and will then do many stupid things.
Now, when I say lead I'm not talking about some military commando shit. I'm recommending acquiring knowledge and skills that provide you with confidence and an ability to make clear, sensible decisions.
Learn everything you can about your surroundings. What is the terrain like? Do you know All of the roads in your area and can you navigate them?
Learn first aid. If you are a history buff (good on ya!!) read about past disasters and pay attention to the actions taken by the public and government. How did the victims behave? During and immediately after the disaster, and then in the subsequent months. Study the Katrina disaster, read everything you can about it. Pay particular attention to the behaviour of the general public.
Keep in mind New Orleans of that time is a condensed version of PO.

Work quietly, build up your own confidence. Talk to us. As I've recommended to many others, don't waste time looking for a pat on the back. Just get ready.

Now about the love thing. Harsh as it is, if you don't feel all that strongly about your family, then be prepared to cut them loose. They are adults after all, they are not stupid, and if they choose to ignore what's right in front of them, well ...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('socrates1fan', 'I') don't have a significant other but I'm not sure how to talk about it with my family.
If I ever so much as mention the word 'preparation' I get bombarded for being to panicey and not taking into consideration of 'former events' that did not end in mass crisis.
I don't believe it will be the end of the world but it will be much harder than my family believes.
Being a child I have no power to even make choices when it comes to preperation. I cannot prevent us from being dependant on oil because I have no say.
Myself I am trying to be healthier, learn more about gardening, herbal medical care, and trying to be stronger.
It does me no good however if the rest of my family refuses to take interest in this issue.
I dont think we would have it as bad as many people (especially on the coasts.) simply because just about anything grows here(except tropical but grapes do!) and there is food here.
I'm concerned my family will get hit harder then before by rising food prices(did anyone else notice all the rotten food at wal-mart?!) and gas prices.
Being a history whizz a lot of my family believes I just want it to be 1849 or something(in reality, grose no. I prefer soap, razors, and deoderant!).
Anyone else have this problem?(and I am fully aware that most of you are adults who arent in this tight squeeze.)

[Hagakure_Leofman]

this thread is all about one more person getting a head start into the future

[socrates1fan]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RdSnt', 'I') understand your predicament. Here's what I'd like to recommend.
It's clear you have made the decision to believe in the ramifications of PO and obviously you are not in a position to convince those around you, and it sounds like they aren't listening anyways.

Do you love them?

If so, learn what you need to in preparation to lead. At some point, if things go badly, your family is not going to know what to do and will then do many stupid things.
Now, when I say lead I'm not talking about some military commando crap. I'm recommending acquiring knowledge and skills that provide you with confidence and an ability to make clear, sensible decisions.
Learn everything you can about your surroundings. What is the terrain like? Do you know All of the roads in your area and can you navigate them?
Learn first aid. If you are a history buff (good on ya!!) read about past disasters and pay attention to the actions taken by the public and government. How did the victims behave? During and immediately after the disaster, and then in the subsequent months. Study the Katrina disaster, read everything you can about it. Pay particular attention to the behaviour of the general public.
Keep in mind New Orleans of that time is a condensed version of PO.

Work quietly, build up your own confidence. Talk to us. As I've recommended to many others, don't waste time looking for a pat on the back. Just get ready.

Now about the love thing. Harsh as it is, if you don't feel all that strongly about your family, then be prepared to cut them loose. They are adults after all, they are not stupid, and if they choose to ignore what's right in front of them, well ...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('socrates1fan', 'I') don't have a significant other but I'm not sure how to talk about it with my family.
If I ever so much as mention the word 'preparation' I get bombarded for being to panicey and not taking into consideration of 'former events' that did not end in mass crisis.
I don't believe it will be the end of the world but it will be much harder than my family believes.
Being a child I have no power to even make choices when it comes to preperation. I cannot prevent us from being dependant on oil because I have no say.
Myself I am trying to be healthier, learn more about gardening, herbal medical care, and trying to be stronger.
It does me no good however if the rest of my family refuses to take interest in this issue.
I dont think we would have it as bad as many people (especially on the coasts.) simply because just about anything grows here(except tropical but grapes do!) and there is food here.
I'm concerned my family will get hit harder then before by rising food prices(did anyone else notice all the rotten food at wal-mart?!) and gas prices.
Being a history whizz a lot of my family believes I just want it to be 1849 or something(in reality, grose no. I prefer soap, razors, and deoderant!).
Anyone else have this problem?(and I am fully aware that most of you are adults who arent in this tight squeeze.)

[RedStateGreen]

Congratulations, you're very fortunate.