[ubercynicmeister]

...how will they handle living without Cheap Oil?

http://www.theage.com.au/news/technology/why-mobiles-are-shrines-to-selfimage/2006/03/20/1142703262375.html

These living embodiments of Clueless Yuppiedom are...truly indescribably immature.

I wonder what'll happen when the whole creaking lot of Peak Oil comes a-tumbling down upon their heads?

BOY, I so do NOT want to be around such people when the Crisis hits. Even it it's earliest stages, they would make life unbearable.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ubercynicmeister', 'I') wonder what'll happen when the whole creaking lot of Peak Oil comes a-tumbling down upon their heads?

[Zardoz]

Being young, they will adjust very quickly, of course. It's we graybeards who will sink into depressed states.

And who says we'll lose our cell phones? How much power does it take to charge one? The phone systems will always be there.

Its the Escalades, Navigators, H2s, sportfishing boats, motor homes, and private planes that will go.

We'll have an electrical grid. The cost of the power will be so frickin' high that we'll actually turn off lights when we don't need them, and learn to live again without the A/C running 24/7, but the power will be there if we choose to pay for it.

Kiss off the backyard spas, but we'll still be yapping away on those little low-voltage phones.

Hell, in the not-too-distant future we'll probably have internal nanophones implanted that'll run off the electricity in our bodies. We'll whisper some code that will activate it, and operate it by voice command after that.

[nethawk]

The energy consumption of mobile phones is low compared to the SUVs that we drive, but there are something like a billion of them in use around the world. It's true that most of that energy doesn't come from petroleum directly, but we do know that we can't generate electricity without petroleum, unless we haul the coal to the power plants in wheelbarrows!

I'm not sure how they do it in Australia, but here in the U.S. we have power plants in Pennsylvania (a state with A LOT of coal) burning coal from Wyoming, just so that the power companies can get away with running their plants without scrubbers.

Information Technology accounts for about 8% of electricity demand in the U.S., I'm not sure if the statistic includes the cell phone system or not. One could say that it's all powered by natural gas, because all of this technology sprung up in the past 15 years, and in those 15 years nearly all of the new electricity to come online is from gas-fired plants. Gas is in the same boat as oil as far as sustainability goes. Air conditioning, hour-long showers, and hot tubs will go before IT will.

Yuppie Culture is pretty much clueless of our environment and energy situation, at least from what I know.

[waegari]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('nethawk', 'T')he energy consumption of mobile phones is low compared to the SUVs that we drive, but there are something like a billion of them in use around the world.

[0mar]

Never had a mobile phone.

Could never afford it.

I think it's stupid, why the fuck you have to talk to someone about how big your shitlogs are? Or what so and so was wearing? Big fucken deal.

Plus, it's rude as hell. Try carrying on a conversation with someone with a mobile phone. 50% of the time, a call comes in (almost always about something retarded too) and interupts your conversation. The person you were talking to doesn't even have the decency to say they are busy/occupied, they will, most of the time, just talk on the mobile instead of you. Annoying as fuck!

And why the fuck would most anyone with a brain even want to associate with most anyone? 75% of all people in this country don't know shit, are boring as hell and have zero sense of humor. They aren't witty, thought provoking, etc etc. It's like talking to a brick wall, but without the eye candy.

[MyOtherID]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('nethawk', 'w')e can't generate electricity without petroleum, unless we haul the coal to the power plants in wheelbarrows!

[TheTurtle]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MyOtherID', ' ')

Rubbish! I charge my cellphone with solar:

[MyOtherID]

You don't need oil to make plastic. Ever heard of Bioplastic?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Forbes', 'C')hemical giants like DuPont, as well as small, research-oriented startups like the MIT spinout Metabolix in Cambridge, Mass., are beavering away on plastics brewed up in fermenters full of living organisms and nutrient broth. While biotech chemicals account for just a smidgen of total sales today, it's a trend that could quickly add up to a very big deal, according to a recent McKinsey & Co. study. McKinsey principal Rolf Bachmann estimates that by 2010, chemical products made at least partly by biotech methods could account for $280 billion of a projected $1.4-trillion-a-year chemical market. Sales that large would displace a notable quantity of oil, freeing it up for other uses and helping keep prices down--though no one can yet estimate by how much. It would also shift the source of industrial chemicals from foreign countries to farm fields nearer the markets where the end products will be consumed. That would cut transportation costs and conceivably reduce dependence on foreign oil.

[TheTurtle]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MyOtherID', 'Y')ou don't need oil to make plastic. Ever heard of Bioplastic?

[MyOtherID]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheTurtle', 'S')till speculative, it appears.

[TheTurtle]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MyOtherID', 'N')ope.

[Doch]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ubercynicmeister', '.')..how will they handle living without Cheap Oil?

http://www.theage.com.au/news/technology/why-mobiles-are-shrines-to-selfimage/2006/03/20/1142703262375.html

These living embodiments of Clueless Yuppiedom are...truly indescribably immature.

I wonder what'll happen when the whole creaking lot of Peak Oil comes a-tumbling down upon their heads?

BOY, I so do NOT want to be around such people when the Crisis hits. Even it it's earliest stages, they would make life unbearable.

[UIUCstudent01]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doch', 't')ake-aways.

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheTurtle', '.')..Still speculative, it appears...

[TheTurtle]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheTurtle', '.')..Still speculative, it appears...

[ubercynicmeister]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', 'B')eing young, they will adjust very quickly, of course. It's we graybeards who will sink into depressed states.

And who says we'll lose our cell phones? How much power does it take to charge one? The phone systems will always be there.

[ubercynicmeister]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doch', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ubercynicmeister', '.')..how will they handle living without Cheap Oil?

http://www.theage.com.au/news/technology/why-mobiles-are-shrines-to-selfimage/2006/03/20/1142703262375.html

These living embodiments of Clueless Yuppiedom are...truly indescribably immature.

I wonder what'll happen when the whole creaking lot of Peak Oil comes a-tumbling down upon their heads?

BOY, I so do NOT want to be around such people when the Crisis hits. Even it it's earliest stages, they would make life unbearable.

[MyOtherID]

I've seen plenty of solar powered mobile phone base stations.

There are even very large ones for huge rural areas:



Mobile phones will not go away, you can count on that.

[Battle_Scarred_Galactico]

I honestly don't know how things will go then for anyone who doesn't know things like cooking.


Good posts, but I have to just say that getting the food first would be slightly higher on my priority list. Worrying about cooking it can come a distant second.