[vtsnowedin]

With the ongoing drumbeat against the Trump administration by the left leaning media and the continuing special council investigations coupled with the rapid turn over of White house staff you have to wonder if the Trump administration will last until 2020. I will say today I think the odds are less then fifty fifty. One of the things that is holding back the Trump administration is the large number of Republicans that came out against Trump (never Trumpers) before the election that Trump will not consider as staff on any level. This has left him with almost no pool of qualified people to take staff positions that both can get a security clearance and are competent to do the job.
This weakness may well ultimately bring him down mid term.
So what happens next? The constitution says Pence. So my question is: Is Pence aware of how close he is to moving up and dose he have a plan and a list of people to put in place if and when? He can't talk to them now so he can't ask if his preferred candidate would serve. So he needs a wish list plus a plan B and plan C. I wonder who is on those lists ,and I certainly hope he has made those lists.
Who knows three thousand people who wont embarrass you two weeks after you give them a job?

[Plantagenet]

Theres no point in imagining how great things will be in a future Pence administration, since the left and the media will go after Pence if he ever becomes the Prez just like they've gone after Trump.

The thing Pence should be doing is going after Mueller. Clinton showed that the way to survive an out of control special prosecutor and an impeachment is to attack attack attack. Pence should be out there right now ridiculing and leading attacks on Mueller, imho.

Cheers!

[GHung]

Pence <======> Empty suit

One of the most contrived personalities I can think of, and a total Trump suck-up.

[asg70]

The matryrdom going on here is off the charts.

Let go of your patron saint, guys. He's a douche and if he goes down he only has himself to blame, not the "left leaning [fill in the blanks]".

[Cog]

Trump is not resigning nor is he being impeached. The left screeching is music to my ears. When you are getting flak it means you are over the target.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GHung', 'P')ence <======> Empty suit

One of the most contrived personalities I can think of, and a total Trump suck-up.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')heres no point in imagining how great things will be in a future Pence administration, since the left and the media will go after Pence if he ever becomes the Prez just like they've gone after Trump.

The thing Pence should be doing is going after Mueller. Clinton showed that the way to survive an out of control special prosecutor and an impeachment is to attack attack attack. Pence should be out there right now ridiculing and leading attacks on Mueller, imho.

Cheers!

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'T')rump is not resigning nor is he being impeached. The left screeching is music to my ears. When you are getting flak it means you are over the target.

[Cog]

Impeached for what exactly? Because Trump makes them feel bad about being Democrats? Try again. You do realize you need 66 votes in the Senate to make an impeachment successful? That is not happening in any election scenario.

Comey et. al. have made any possible charges against Trump immediately suspect as partisan maneuvering.

So tell me what platform are the Democrats running on? Higher taxes and loving illegals more than Americans doesn't seem like much of a plan to me.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'I')mpeached for what exactly? Because Trump makes them feel bad about being Democrats? Try again. You do realize you need 66 votes in the Senate to make an impeachment successful? That is not happening in any election scenario.

Comey et. al. have made any possible charges against Trump immediately suspect as partisan maneuvering.

So tell me what platform are the Democrats running on? Higher taxes and loving illegals more than Americans doesn't seem like much of a plan to me.

[Cog]

Obstruction for firing a FBI director, who used a fake dossier paid for by Dems to secure a FISA warrant to spy on Trump? Yeah that isn't going to fly. The moment we found out that Comey had signed that FISA warrant application, obstruction was off the table. Trump is divested of ownership in Trump enterprises so emoluments clause won't work either.

Oh and Republicans, Never-Trumpers or not, are not going to vote for impeachment for some made up bullshit. Although Trump's base is not huge, about 30-40% of Republicans, we don't forget betrayal.

You want a real civil war? Impeach Trump on some pretext and find out how quick it goes hot.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'O')bstruction for firing a FBI director, who used a fake dossier paid for by Dems to secure a FISA warrant to spy on Trump? Yeah that isn't going to fly. The moment we found out that Comey had signed that FISA warrant application, obstruction was off the table. Trump is divested of ownership in Trump enterprises so emoluments clause won't work either.

Oh and Republicans, Never-Trumpers or not, are not going to vote for impeachment for some made up bullshit. Although Trump's base is not huge, about 30-40% of Republicans, we don't forget betrayal.

You want a real civil war? Impeach Trump on some pretext and find out how quick it goes hot.

[Cog]

You know Ibon and I have bet $100 on this outcome? Ibon thinks Trump won't finish out his first term. People always underestimate Trump. Seventeen Republicans, Hillary Clinton, the DNC, the RNC, and the media. He beat them all.

[vtsnowedin]

He who laughs last laughs best.
Except for beating Hillary Trump has accomplished very little and he has not grown into the job. He can't choose and vet a competent staff and they make amateur mistakes daily.
Maybe he can hang on four years but I think the odds are against him.

[Cog]

Is Trump supposed to be a mind reader? How about Obama having the only Attorney General to be held in both civil and criminal contempt of Congress, Eric Holder? Or Lois Lerner at the IRS who decided to go after conservative PAC's, which no doubt affected the outcome of the 2012 election? Or how about vetting a Secretary of State Hillary Clinton who turned her office into a cash machine in her pay for play schemes? I haven't even got to the weaponization of the FBI to affect the outcome of the 2016 election. Something Obama certainly had knowledge of.

Seems to me every president makes bad choices in staff. VT shut off CNN or NPR for a while, or wherever you are getting this nonsense about Trump. You will rest much easier and not be as confused about the future.

[asg70]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '
')Probably for obstruction of justice and violations of the emoluments clause or money laundering before the campaign. Any excuse will do.

[Cog]

Contrary to some people's belief, a Democrat sweep of the mid-terms is no sure thing. Not according to the pollsters. Republicans have picked up considerable ground since the passage of the tax bill.

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-instit ... US_013118/

Pres. Trump's job rating now stands at 42% approve and 50% disapprove. While his net rating continues to dwell in negative territory, this is an improvement from his December low of 32% approve and 56% disapprove. The current results mark a return to the ratings he received in the late summer and early fall of 2017. Positive signs for Trump include an uptick in public opinion that he has been successful in moving his agenda through Congress and increasing support for the recently enacted tax reform plan.


In a look ahead to 2018, Democrats currently hold a negligible edge on the generic Congress ballot. If the election for House of Representatives were held today, 47% of registered voters say they would vote for or lean toward voting for the Democratic candidate in their district compared to 45% who would support the Republican. This marks a dramatic shift from last month, when Democrats held a 15 point advantage on the generic ballot (51% to 36%).

[GHung]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', '.')...... People always underestimate Trump. Seventeen Republicans, Hillary Clinton, the DNC, the RNC, and the media. He beat them all.

[Cog]

What exactly is the Democrat platform? They had an opportunity to repair ObamaCare which they themselves said was flawed, they declined. They had an opportunity to vote for tax cuts, they didn't want that either. They shut down the government over their love of illegal aliens over taking care of American citizens.

The Democrat party has self-identified as being completely out of touch with the American people. They wouldn't even clap for record low black unemployment at the SOTU. Just like Hillary's "Half the country is deplorable, beyond redemption" That is the attitude right there, that that causes you to lose elections. Go ahead run on the platform of "We hate Trump, vote for us" while I laugh.

[GHung]

I always lose elections. There is no one currently in elected office that I voted for, so don't blame me because the rest of you keep voting for bought-and-paid-for partisan creeps. And there is nothing at all you can say that justifies voting for Trump. Nothing at all. The man is not only a political disaster, he is everything my parents taught me not to be as a human being.