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Interest rates dropping?

Unread postby Roy » Thu 07 Apr 2005, 18:38:06

On CBS Marketwatch today:

[url=http://www.marketwatch.com/news/newsfinder/pulseone.asp?siteid=mktw&guid={ABB9F89C-C02C-42B1-AD15-6B5031E97847}&dist=bnb]Article[/url]


10:47am 04/07/05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '1')0:47am 04/07/05

U.S. mortgage rates fall; 30-year under 6% (FRE) By Steve Kerch
CHICAGO (MarketWatch) -- U.S. mortgage rates fell in the week ending Thursday with the benchmark 30-year loan dropping below 6 percent, Freddie Mac said in its weekly survey. The mortgage agency (FRE) said the national average interest rate on the 30-year mortgage was 5.93%, down from 6.04% a week earlier. Average rates on the 15-year, 5-year hybrid and one-year adjustable-rate mortgage also fell.



Anybody understand why 30 year mortgage rates are dropping given the steady interest rate increases by the Federal Reserve?

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Re: Interest rates dropping?

Unread postby MonteQuest » Thu 07 Apr 2005, 19:32:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roy', 'O')n CBS Marketwatch today:

[url=http://www.marketwatch.com/news/newsfinder/pulseone.asp?siteid=mktw&guid={ABB9F89C-C02C-42B1-AD15-6B5031E97847}&dist=bnb]Article[/url]


10:47am 04/07/05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '1')0:47am 04/07/05

U.S. mortgage rates fall; 30-year under 6% (FRE) By Steve Kerch
CHICAGO (MarketWatch) -- U.S. mortgage rates fell in the week ending Thursday with the benchmark 30-year loan dropping below 6 percent, Freddie Mac said in its weekly survey. The mortgage agency (FRE) said the national average interest rate on the 30-year mortgage was 5.93%, down from 6.04% a week earlier. Average rates on the 15-year, 5-year hybrid and one-year adjustable-rate mortgage also fell.



Anybody understand why 30 year mortgage rates are dropping given the steady interest rate increases by the Federal Reserve?

Thanks,

Roy


Alan Greenspan says it is a "conundrum." I'm not sure anyone knows.
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Unread postby RonMN » Thu 07 Apr 2005, 19:59:13

The only way interest rates could drop at this point, would be a huge slow-down in people taking a mortguage/refinancing.
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Unread postby marek » Thu 07 Apr 2005, 19:59:37

Since the Fed has been raising interest rates, the fact that mortgage rates have fallen suggests that the demand for new mortgages might be decreasing. It could be the first symptom of the housing bubble bursting, but who knows.
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Unread postby RonMN » Thu 07 Apr 2005, 20:03:07

I didn't wanna mention the housing bubble bursting :cry: but it IS a possibility
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Unread postby EnemyCombatant » Thu 07 Apr 2005, 20:13:14

I thought there was inflation concerns.

If the Fed has to decrease interest rates despite signs of inflation, this is evident of the conundrum.

They are stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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Unread postby RonMN » Thu 07 Apr 2005, 21:01:20

Ouch!
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Unread postby wisegoat » Thu 07 Apr 2005, 22:11:53

what is a bubble anyways?
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Unread postby MonteQuest » Thu 07 Apr 2005, 22:29:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisegoat', 'w')hat is a bubble anyways?


A combination of easy credit and speculation. No fundamental basis for the ballooning asset price. Bubbles always pop.
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Unread postby hull3551 » Fri 08 Apr 2005, 14:55:05

I think there is definitely an oversupply of lenders out there. Everybody was getting into re-fi’s a ways back. I was told there was ‘A Paper’ – the best - down to B, C, and even D Paper. All those can re-fi have done so, and now the increased competition looms as those pools of buyers begin to dry up. Consequently, reduced margins for the lenders translates into lower mortgage rates.

I’ve read there will probably not be a rate increase in the fed funds for a while, as the economy is stagnating.
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Unread postby Carrie » Fri 08 Apr 2005, 20:14:53

It appears that the housing bubble is starting to pop:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n what could be a crack in the housing market's sturdy foundation, the number of foreclosed homes put up for sale rose 50 percent between February and March, according to a new study by Foreclosure.com.

The increase is one of the biggest monthly spikes Foreclosure.com has seen since it began tracking the market in 1999, according to Jim Houston, vice president of the foreclosure listing service.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7419149/

If rates keep increasing (and all signs show that they will) this is only going to get worse. :?
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Unread postby RdSnt » Sun 10 Apr 2005, 10:25:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carrie', 'I')t appears that the housing bubble is starting to pop:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n what could be a crack in the housing market's sturdy foundation, the number of foreclosed homes put up for sale rose 50 percent between February and March, according to a new study by Foreclosure.com.

The increase is one of the biggest monthly spikes Foreclosure.com has seen since it began tracking the market in 1999, according to Jim Houston, vice president of the foreclosure listing service.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7419149/

If rates keep increasing (and all signs show that they will) this is only going to get worse. :?



You may also see a bit of a bump up in housing sales, in the short run. With lots of foreclosed homes coming on market, selling at a discount, those people not paying attention could jump at the bargains. Thus home sales will go up.
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Unread postby ernest » Sun 10 Apr 2005, 11:00:36

Any of you guys study Economics?

The long term mortgage rates, at around 6%, are substantially higher than they were six months ago. As with oil prices, a slight down ward movement does not mean it is a trend. The long term trend will follow short term rates.

Given that, there is tremendous pressure on lenders to keep the rates low and lend money. It is the last bit of liquidity keeping the economy "booming". When mortgage rates go up another point ( this year or next year), the housing boom will be over and home prices will start to drop ( unless, of course, the huge liquidity created by the cheap money of the last four years has inflated all asset classes).

Meaning that there is a housing bubble, but cheap money has created so much liquidity that inflation probably will show itself in all classes soon.

Right now stocks are extremely pricey and there is no real value there. Bonds are pricey, even crap junk bonds are not yielding much. Unbelievable......
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Unread postby threadbear » Sun 10 Apr 2005, 12:51:08

The plan to bomb the crap out of Iran this summer, will have the effect of paralyzing any oil producing nation from trading oil for euros, or any other currency. This will keep the dollar solidly backed by oil and guns, and might prevent it from dropping off a cliff. It's still headed down in a big way, but might survive as a means of exchange, domestically, and retain some kind of fear factor standing, internationally.

The abilityof the fed to set interest rates is restricted to a narrow band, somewhere between 2.5 and around 4.00 %. If it goes much above 4% the derivatives tower starts to fall. If it goes below a certain point, of course the dollar will drop like a rock.
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