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Yank the "US carpet"...

Unread postby lutherquick » Sun 12 Mar 2006, 00:33:49

A realy great article to understand US dollar hegemony in relation to peak oil.

http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/1 ... ystem.html

In my opinion, the carpet needs to be yanked from America...
Enough is enough...

The average World citizen needs to stop subsidizing the US consumer, yank the carpet now... and in doing so, save humanity from peak oil... and in doing so create change and end exponential growth.

How many more years must America grow like cancer?
How many more years must America get fat, get bigger asses?

Great scott !!!! since when is FAT so pretty?

All this hegemony, not for some good, but for America's growth.

When you go to the doctor and learn you have a tumor, then you take a knife and you cut it out. Like yanking the carpet from America, running from the dollar would save us from peak oil. Somehow the peasant in the forest needs to be educated, dump the dollar, switch to gold or Ruble or Yuan, or Euro...

This dollar hegemony is the biggest con job, the bigest jig, and the biggest ponsie scem of all time... Keneth Lay would be proud...
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Re: Yank the "US carpet"...

Unread postby lutherquick » Sun 12 Mar 2006, 01:01:01

Pstarr,

Well, I forgot, between steroids, and antibiotics, maybe the reason Americans need an SUV to hual around thier fat azzes... Fork lifts and semis might help as well...

All kidding aside... Most people in Europe and certainly the former Soveit Union, China, India, and South America must walk to the bus station...

But FAT is nice, right? I mean, aren't you more impressed by a 300 bld American woman than a 115 bld Russian photo model?

Ahhhh... The Russian super model has no H1 or H2 Hummer.
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Re: Yank the "US carpet"...

Unread postby aldente » Sun 12 Mar 2006, 02:01:03

If all the fat of all the overweight human beings in this world could be extracted and collected in a tank it would look like this:
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Re: Yank the "US carpet"...

Unread postby Jellric » Sun 12 Mar 2006, 02:14:04

Why does America deserve all the blame?

Does your (presumably) angelic country use oil?
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Re: Yank the "US carpet"...

Unread postby aldente » Sun 12 Mar 2006, 02:36:57

My pic was not specific of the fat that accumulates in North America. I am a German poster and belive me, to eat a lot of 'Schwein' makes people there just as fat.
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Re: Yank the "US carpet"...

Unread postby TommyJefferson » Sun 12 Mar 2006, 03:16:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lutherquick', 'I')n my opinion, the carpet needs to be yanked from America...


It's gonna to be totally sweet when they go from this...

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to this...

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Re: Yank the "US carpet"...

Unread postby DesertBear2 » Sun 12 Mar 2006, 03:23:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lutherquick', 'H')ow many more years must America get fat, get bigger asses?


I know what you mean....all these big fat-butted people driving around in huge SUV-Hawgs. And most of them are self-obsessed with their "busy" lives and totally unconcerned about the welfare of other peoples or other species. Truly depressing!
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Re: Yank the "US carpet"...

Unread postby seldom_seen » Sun 12 Mar 2006, 03:43:39

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I wish I would have gotten in on early on the "che guevera bubble." I could have made a killing off t-shirts, posters, stickers.

The revolution will be mass merchandised!
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Re: Yank the "US carpet"...

Unread postby Jellric » Sun 12 Mar 2006, 04:27:40

As the sole remaining superpower America is in for its share of rhubarbs.

She is not alone, however.

I hate to ruin your party, but I would like to remind you revelers that ALL of Western Civilization is in the same boat, indeed all of Civilization period.

So you may very well laugh. You may indeed.

But you won't be laughing for long..

Because folks, you will be right behind us.
May I remind you that YOU cooperated in creating the mess we find ourselves in. YOUR economies are also highly dependent upon oil.

You are no saints.

It may provide temporary comfort to scapegoat one country to absolve yourselves of blame, but you will suffer right alongside us.

We are all in this together, like it or not.
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Re: Yank the "US carpet"...

Unread postby shakespear1 » Sun 12 Mar 2006, 04:34:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_code('', 'All kidding aside... Most people in Europe and certainly the former Soveit Union, China, India, and South America must walk to the bus station... ')
I would restate the above to

I am not kidding ... More and more people in Europe and certainly the former Soviet Union, China, India, and South America are walking to their car...
Men argue, nature acts !
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Re: Yank the "US carpet"...

Unread postby _sluimers_ » Sun 12 Mar 2006, 08:35:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jellric', 'A')s the sole remaining superpower America is in for its share of rhubarbs.

She is not alone, however.

I hate to ruin your party, but I would like to remind you revelers that ALL of Western Civilization is in the same boat, indeed all of Civilization period.

So you may very well laugh. You may indeed.

But you won't be laughing for long..

Because folks, you will be right behind us.
May I remind you that YOU cooperated in creating the mess we find ourselves in. YOUR economies are also highly dependent upon oil.

You are no saints.

It may provide temporary comfort to scapegoat one country to absolve yourselves of blame, but you will suffer right alongside us.

We are all in this together, like it or not.


True true, very true, but perhaps you should save your breath and ask yourself "Would someone who seems to like to insult your countrymen ever listen to you?"
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Re: Yank the "US carpet"...

Unread postby Peak_Plus » Sun 12 Mar 2006, 09:43:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jellric', '
')You are no saints.

It may provide temporary comfort to scapegoat one country to absolve yourselves of blame, but you will suffer right alongside us.

We are all in this together, like it or not.

May I remind you that an American started this post?
Why does the German think you're talking to him? Germans do that, you know.
And what does all that have to do with the US having a world currency which is being subsidized by the global system?
This is the way the world ends,
Not with a bang but a wimper!
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Re: Yank the "US carpet"...

Unread postby erl » Sun 12 Mar 2006, 13:32:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lutherquick', ' ')running from the dollar would save us from peak oil.


Ah, the stuff dreams are made of.

This world has many more problems than just peak oil. A dollar collapse won't save you or anyone. A collapsing U.S. economy may slow down oil depletion, but won't prevent it.

And if that does happen, then the cure will certainly be worse than the disease.
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Re: Yank the "US carpet"...

Unread postby evilgenius » Sun 12 Mar 2006, 13:39:46

Are you inferring that a dollar collapse will get rid of one hindrance to development of new strategies and technologies? If so, meet the new boss. He's the same as the old boss.
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Re: Yank the "US carpet"...

Unread postby Jellric » Sun 12 Mar 2006, 17:00:08

I was addressing my remarks to those outside the U.S. who dream of seeing the U.S. crash and burn thereby screwing themselves. And yes, there are some in this country who share those attitudes. I understand why people feel as they do towards this country; Some of it is justified, but some need to climb off their high horses and put their own houses in order before pointing fingers.

The American leaders and people have made mistakes that have contributed to this problem, but we are hardly alone (although some like to leave that impression).
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Re: Yank the "US carpet"...

Unread postby DesertBear2 » Sun 12 Mar 2006, 18:27:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jellric', 'I') was addressing my remarks to those outside the U.S. who dream of seeing the U.S. crash and burn thereby screwing themselves. And yes, there are some in this country who share those attitudes.


My own comments do not indicate a desire for my country to "crash and burn". However, I am becoming increasingly disillusioned about what appears to be the dark turn this country has taken both domestically and internationally. And I feel that the conservative movement is bankrupting the country and betraying the principles of freedom on the which this nation of the enlightenment was founded. Nor do I see any solutions or innovative thinking coming from the Democrat ranks.

I was recently dumbfounded by the revelations of an acquaintance who is stationed at Guantanamo prison. Apparently, there is very rough handling/beating of unarmed inmates at the prison and this is actually encouraged. Even more upsetting were the reactions of others hearing this story who gave football cheers of encouragement in regards to punching unarmed prisoners in the face. This is not the America that I believe in.
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Re: Yank the "US carpet"...

Unread postby Jellric » Sun 12 Mar 2006, 19:13:06

I share your concern. When many males are right around the age of 15 they go through a brief period where war seems fun. You might call it the "kick-ass stage". Well our leaders right now never grew out of it. These are the type of people who think "hunting" caged birds while getting drunk is sport. They send others to do their killing for them, but passed on their own chance to sacrifice.

I wish there was some way to cut out this cancer and save the patient, but the apathy you spoke of appears to have taken root. Our founding principles are being forgotten. Too many have been seduced into thinking the ends justify the means.

I still have some hope that we can salvage something of what Bush has wrought. I think the next Presidential election will see the rise of a major third party candidate. I don't know who it will be, but the door is wide open. As you mentioned, the Democrats are not a credible alternative to this bunch.
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Re: Yank the "US carpet"...

Unread postby lutherquick » Sun 12 Mar 2006, 19:36:59

Jellric,

You said "I was addressing my remarks to those outside the U.S. who dream of seeing the U.S. crash and burn thereby screwing themselves."

honestly, people in the US or outside that want to see America crash and burn, it's not that we want it, but the sooner it happens the healthy everyone will be...

20 years ago when I first started getting credit cards and other debt, eventualy, I couldn't get more, even if I make my payments on time... This forced me to change and become lean and mean...

I think few want America to crash... But most want America to be responsible. And maybe a good crash is needed... and I'll bet the word will be just fine after that... I don't think American markets are as important if the producer nations need to keep it floating with laons, what's the point?

It would be better to loan that money other nations who are responsible and pudent with thier finaces and consumption.

Let the whole American economy crash... if you look at trading between other nations, the US is fast becoming secondary...

How long do we skin the cats and feed the skins to the young cats? How long can this perpetual motion go on? One day, America needs to join the world community and give as much as she takes, and dollars ain't what I'm talking about...
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Re: Yank the "US carpet"...

Unread postby Russian_Cowboy » Sun 12 Mar 2006, 23:35:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lutherquick', 'A')hhhh... The Russian super model has no H1 or H2 Hummer.


I can't imagine a Russian supermodel without a car.
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