Nothing to fear but fear itself

by **JohnDenver** » Mon 04 Jul 2005, 21:06:37

The doomers often say: "We can handle P.O. technically. It's the fear and hysteria that's going to cause the collapse." Personally, I think fear is counterproductive, and those who are inciting it will be the #1 enemy of our society in the post-peak period. They will have to be marginalized, ridiculed and shouted down.

This is a great speech by FDR, which shows how leadership reacts to hysteria. It is the model which any future President will look to in leading the U.S. out of a peak oil crisis:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') am certain that my fellow Americans expect that on my induction into the Presidency I will address them with a candor and a decision which the present situation of our people impel. This is preeminently the time to speak the truth, the whole truth, frankly and boldly. Nor need we shrink from honestly facing conditions in our country today. This great Nation will endure as it has endured, will revive and will prosper. So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself—nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance. In every dark hour of our national life a leadership of frankness and vigor has met with that understanding and support of the people themselves which is essential to victory. I am convinced that you will again give that support to leadership in these critical days.

by **ONeil** » Mon 04 Jul 2005, 21:39:34

Hey John,

I never see you on peak speak. Why not?

The fear and hysteria will be significant. Most of those that are currently aware of peak oil promote the fear and hysteria. I believe they do so out of despair.

Very difficult to argue with the numbers that have been presented, which leaves a stark reality to deal with. What I think alot of people fail to realize though is their ability to have a hugh impact on their local environments. Now if living in a city of several million, that impact is greatly reduced by the impact of other competing interests, but, if we choose to act on a smaller scale the results may simply amaze.

For all of those that do not believe me, just remember one thing. The people that survived the Titanic did so because some people on that ship kept calm and did what was neccissary.

by **PenultimateManStanding** » Mon 04 Jul 2005, 21:43:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ONeil', '
')The people that survived the Titanic did so because some people on that ship kept calm and did what was neccissary.

by **gego** » Mon 04 Jul 2005, 21:49:32

Don't worry, be happy!

Be fearless, because a reaction of fear to your perception of the future is bad for others. It only causes them to accurately perceive the future and feel fear itself.

Let us get rid of this web site, because it engenders fear of the future. We would not want people to perceive reality.

by **ONeil** » Mon 04 Jul 2005, 21:59:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gego', 'D')on't worry, be happy!

Be fearless, because a reaction of fear to your perception of the future is bad for others. It only causes them to accurately perceive the future and feel fear itself.

Let us get rid of this web site, because it engenders fear of the future. We would not want people to perceive reality.

by **ONeil** » Mon 04 Jul 2005, 22:02:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ONeil', '
')The people that survived the Titanic did so because some people on that ship kept calm and did what was neccissary.

by **JohnDenver** » Mon 04 Jul 2005, 22:02:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gego', 'L')et us get rid of this web site, because it engenders fear of the future.

by **JohnDenver** » Mon 04 Jul 2005, 22:05:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ONeil', 'H')ey John,
I never see you on peak speak. Why not?

by **johnmarkos** » Mon 04 Jul 2005, 22:21:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JohnDenver', 'O')n the contrary. We do want people to perceive reality. We just want them to view the future as a thrill and a difficult challenge, not something to be feared. Fear is counterproductive. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy which needs to be stamped out.

by **gego** » Mon 04 Jul 2005, 22:24:41

I would like to know how many of you who initially discovered "Peak Oil" did not feel fear and dispair.

Maybe you have a plan of action now, but if you tell me you do not still feel fear, then I tell you that you are a liar.

by **I_Like_Plants** » Tue 05 Jul 2005, 00:47:46

This is why I think the more Peak Oil is ballyhoo'd the better, get people mentally prepared, even if consciously they deny it's reality it will be seeping into their subconscious and when it becomes apparent that it's really happening, people will have gone through the deep subconscious denial/fear/anger/depression/acceptance or whatever the sequence is.

This is actually why y2k was a non-event, I think if it hadn't been ballyhoo'd so much, there may have been mayhem even if the computers were running fine.

by **Colorado-Valley** » Tue 05 Jul 2005, 01:23:22

In the United States, the government functions by keeping people constantly afraid. So if you quit listening to the government and think for yourself, you'll probably be okay.

The only thing I fear about Peak Oil is how the U.S. government and its hysteric-prone citizenry will react to it.

by **MicroHydro** » Tue 05 Jul 2005, 02:28:36

The whole world can gobble Prozac and Xanax, space aliens could show up with and endless supply of oil, and it wouldn't make any difference. The world has gone far into overshoot in several ways besides oil. Fearful or not, there will be fewer people living in 2020 than now.

I agree with I Like Plants, fear is a stage we need to go through to become survivors. Anyone who wasn't terrified by peak oil doesn't understand the situation.

by **Colorado-Valley** » Tue 05 Jul 2005, 02:41:13

As long as I don't have to eat grass like those North Koreans, I guess I'll be fairly content.

by **JohnDenver** » Tue 05 Jul 2005, 20:00:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gego', 'M')aybe you have a plan of action now, but if you tell me you do not still feel fear, then I tell you that you are a liar.

by **Ludi** » Tue 05 Jul 2005, 20:26:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JohnDenver', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gego', 'M')aybe you have a plan of action now, but if you tell me you do not still feel fear, then I tell you that you are a liar.

by **PenultimateManStanding** » Tue 05 Jul 2005, 20:34:15

JD has no fear, gego, because he has confidence that technology will see us through. You know, mirrors in space, and all that stuff. It'll certainly be a race down the back-side of Hubbert's Peak to get the coal up and running. Then meanwhile NG peaks out, financial ruin and chaos ensue, and the pollyanna's are dreaming of space-mirrors.

by **JohnDenver** » Tue 05 Jul 2005, 20:41:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kochevnik', 'S')o let me get this straight ... telling the truth is a GOOD thing, but if the truth scares people that's a BAD thing.

by **El_Producto** » Tue 05 Jul 2005, 20:53:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JohnDenver', 'F')ear is for losers.

by **JohnDenver** » Tue 05 Jul 2005, 20:58:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kochevnik', 'A')nd what your saying here is that we should solve our problems just the same way FDR did ? ... by lying and tricking our competitors for energy into starting a huge fucking world war with us?

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